Session 1859


“Pay Attention to Your Body Consciousness”
“Dream Interactions”
“Managing Stress at Work”

Friday, October 21, 2005 (Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Daniil (Zynn) and Natasha (Nichole)
(Elias’ arrival time is unknown.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

DANIIL: Good afternoon.

NATASHA: Good afternoon, Elias.

ELIAS: What shall we discuss?

DANIIL: There’s always “I can’t believe this is happening right now.” I shall start?

NATASHA: Yeah, you do.

DANIIL: I have a cold or the flu, which I’m recovering from, just minor. Is this my way to help me pay attention without forcing myself to pay attention?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: I notice that even before I got this cold, my throat kind of feels as if it becomes more narrow. Even when I eat, I feel that sometimes I’m pushing it through. Is that my reflection of a restriction of some sort?

ELIAS: Yes, but also an indicator to be expressing more of a gentleness with yourself and more of an ease, allowing not forcing, paying attention to your energy and not restricting it, but allowing yourself to notice and intentionally relax and move with your expression rather than opposing it and attempting to force.

DANIIL: That makes sense. When I find myself in a situation where sometimes I feel sad or somehow uncomfortable, I ask myself what is it that I want? The answer seems to be that what I am doing right now and what I have right now is to a large degree probably what I want right now, and I think well, yes, I’m kind of happy where I work, I’m happy in my family, everything seems to be okay. But then the question is how do I detect new things that are coming my way? If I am kind of accepting — to a large degree I’m accepting where I am and I seem to be happy where I am — where does that movement start where new things begin? Do I wait for them to pop in as a surprise or do I look for them?

ELIAS: More of an expression of allowance, which shall likely be generated in the form of surprise, for you are already generating that avenue. You are already appreciating and acknowledging what you are doing, and that creates an avenue in which you are expressing an openness and an allowance for new experiences that may surprise you. You are already generating that type of energy. As you continue to be acknowledging, it is not a matter of settling. It is actually generating an energy of openness, which allows you to draw new experiences to yourself and new adventures.

DANIIL: So I generate this expression of openness by doing what? By simply observing myself, paying attention, observing my growing acceptance of where I am?

ELIAS: And acknowledging — acknowledging what you are doing, what you are accomplishing, what you have, and directing your concentration in this manner rather than in the manner of what you do not have, what you have not accomplished yet, what you anticipate. Those types of energies generate more of a hesitation and do not generate an allowance for new movement.

DANIIL: I see; that makes sense. The medical findings about me that I have high cholesterol, the popular belief is that cholesterol is dangerous and lower this and that. What is the underlying reason for this? Would it be, again, some type of restriction, that I’m squeezing myself into something?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is more associated with your own method of how to be moving your attention in different manners, paying attention to different expressions, allowing you another avenue in which you can pay attention to yourself but in a different manner — paying attention to your energy and your physical body consciousness, paying attention to your preferences in relation to your physical body consciousness, noticing how much you do not pay attention to your physical body consciousness and how it communicates to you. This is another avenue of communication, in which, if you are allowing yourself to be more attuned to your physical body consciousness and listening to its communications, this shall provide you with another avenue of efficient movement, which shall be affecting in other situations.

Your body consciousness communicates to you in many different manners. It communicates to you in association with consumption, with tension, with creating illness. In these types of manifestations, you can incorporate these in paying attention to what you are creating and that your body consciousness is responding and communicating to you. Just as also with the illness, you are offering yourself a communication to not be pushing yourself and your energy and to slow your movement. Allow yourself to incorporate some time framework to relax.

Many, many individuals generate this type of manifestation precisely for that reason, for they shall not allow themselves permission to slow their movement for there is a constant push to produce and to be active. If you are continuously pushing your energy, eventually your body consciousness shall respond, for you are not allowing yourself to intentionally engage the choice to be gentle with yourself. Therefore, you shall create some manifestation that shall generate a necessity to be expressing that gentleness or nurturing, or slowing of your movement or stopping pushing.

DANIIL: In one of our previous sessions, I had an analogy where I’m like Don Quixote sitting, waiting for someone to knock on my door and call me to the battle. You suggested that I go to a different battle, which is exploring my own consciousness. I seem to be trying to wage a war, but the real thing is to take it easy and it would not be a war at all, right? I’m getting sick, I have to lay down and I have to be gentle with myself. How does that work with my cholesterol, for example? By relaxing and starting to pay attention to my body, my eating habits will change, my stress level will go down and my cholesterol level will go down somehow?

ELIAS: Yes. Pay attention to what your body is communicating to you. It is very efficient at communicating.

In this, if you are genuinely paying attention, it can and does even express communications to you concerning what to consume. If you are genuinely paying attention, it shall generate urges in which you may naturally respond. It shall express urges of what it wants to be consumed. In that, in responding, you satisfy that communication, and your body consciousness moves normally within its natural state.

DANIIL: That makes sense. I think I’m still learning how to do anything without forcing. (Elias laughs) For example, how do I pay attention without telling myself pay attention, pay attention?

ELIAS: (Laughs) I am understanding. Initially that may be somewhat of a challenge, but also reinforce yourself. Acknowledge yourself when you are paying attention. It is the same principle as we discussed previously — in concentrating upon lack, that is what you create. If you are concentrating upon not paying attention, that is what you create also. Rather, if you are acknowledging when you are paying attention, that reinforces that action, and it allows you to not force, to not push, but to naturally be paying attention.

DANIIL: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

DANIIL: I have dreams or daydreams about two people, about my babysitter, my nanny, who has died, and this one little dream about my grandfathers. What is their presence in my memory about them? Is that a real communication or a reminder of some sort?

ELIAS: A real communication...?

DANIIL: In a sense, is my nanny, my babysitter, is she communicating potentially to me, or is this a continuous connection? Why is it short, and why is it so often that I remember her?

ELIAS: Yes, it is an actual interaction and a projection of energy. You generate an allowance of that for you incorporate a familiarity with this individual and have incorporated many other focuses with this individual. Therefore, there is a familiarity and a fondness with this individual, and that generates an allowance for an interaction within energy.

It also generates a comfort, which is not entirely accomplishing that action, for you generate an opposing action to that. You generate the allowance of the energy and create the imagery for the expression of comforting with yourself, and subsequently you awaken and you begin pushing again, rather than accepting that comfort and acknowledging it within yourself. That would be the reason of the frequency.

DANIIL: Would it be correct to say that that individual is intentionally engaging communication with me, communicating a quality of acceptance and not to be afraid of disengagement and be accepting of myself? Is she initiating that in a way or...?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: As a present to me of some sort.

ELIAS: As a cooperation with you in your attempt to be communicating that expression of comfort to yourself.

NATASHA: It’s okay to feel comfort.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Yes!

DANIIL: Does this individual have another focus in this timeframe that I am interactive with?

ELIAS: Presently, no.

DANIIL: This is very interesting. Speaking about dreams, ever since a funny situation we created with a childhood friend of mine, Felix, where Natasha did not like him initially when he stayed in our house for a while, now there is some artificial separation where he lives across the street and we hardly see each other. But I dream about him often and so does she. Would you care to comment on that situation?

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

DANIIL: I’m trying to create an allowance of his choices and definitely an allowance of Natasha’s choices. But it doesn’t feel natural to me that we do not communicate the way we would normally. Natasha, I guess, for sure is an example of following her choices or maybe going overboard with some of her...

NATASHA: I will comment on mine myself! (Laughter)

DANIIL: For me it’s a puzzle; for me it’s a challenge. For me, it’s part of the truth wave, I guess, where I’m realizing what it means to be a real friend and what does it mean to not compromise but allow my own choices and allow others to have their choices.

ELIAS: And generating dream imagery to compensate for the lack of physical interaction. Therefore, you incorporate your preference to continue interaction but in a manner that is involving merely you. Therefore, you satisfy your preference, your truth concerning friendship, but you also generate an allowance for other individuals’ truths and preferences.

DANIIL: So I had to go all the way to another world just to accommodate...? (Elias laughs)

NATASHA: Why not? (Humorously) I’m having dreams about him, too, but deep down I don’t hate him. I realize that I don’t hate him at all. I just dislike his preferences, and I’m speaking about it aloud, and I’m saying I do not like it. I don’t mind him coming to our house, but I still would like it to be on certain terms. I believe it wouldn’t work, but I believe the dreams I’m having of him as well. I know I don’t hate him, and the dreams to me just confirm it. Actually, in physical proximity I would like to communicate with him as well, but again, there is this barrier of my beliefs that he doesn’t act like he’s supposed to. I know it is a belief, and it’s kind of an impossible situation. I’m not ready to take on his behavior one hundred percent, so I’m ignoring acknowledging this to myself, and I know it’s okay.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: I know it’s hard on him, but again, it could be handled. There could be physical ways to communicate not only in the other room but in this one as well. There could be, and there may be some we have not found still. That means to me there is no such big, huge actual desire to communicate, because that doesn’t happen very often. That’s my assessment.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. In that, you are preventing overwhelming yourself, allowing yourself a time framework in which you are becoming more familiar with your own truths, recognizing them, acknowledging them, not opposing yourself with them and also not overwhelming yourself.

Individuals generate processes, and within your process it is significant to not overwhelm yourself but to acknowledge your movement in increments. Recognizing that you incorporate these truths concerning behavior is one step, and acknowledging that recognition is a step. Moving into a genuine understanding that other individuals may incorporate different truths which dictate different behaviors and understanding that it is not necessary to agree or to even like other individual’s choices or behaviors but that you can cooperate with them, that is several steps beyond.

For you may understand intellectually these concepts, but generating them into reality by experiencing cooperation with another individual that you disagree with or that you do not like their choices or their behaviors is challenging. Therefore, you move in increments, and you do not overwhelm yourself, and you continue to acknowledge the increments that you are accomplishing.

NATASHA: It happens over time, even though there is no time, and it’s slow.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Not always! Some situations are more challenging than others.

DANIIL: One small observation: one dream I remember with him is that he and I were interacting, he was visiting our place, and I was trying to tell him to go away because Natasha may come and be upset. He was laughing, and he was laughing so hard. Part of me understood that because he was laughing so innocently, enjoying the moment, he probably realizes there is nothing to be afraid of. But part of me was trying to tell him to go away because she’s coming, and he was saying just wait a second because I want to tell you some small thing. And I was no, no, it doesn’t have to be now, you have to go. So that means that he’s a little bit more aware during those interactions as compared to me, where we meet in the dream, he knows he’s dreaming, while I have no clue or...?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. It is a reminder to you of who is generating the dream. She is not generating your dream; you are. She is not directing your dream. You are creating the imagery. If you are anticipating that she is returning home within your dream imagery and you experience yourself becoming anxious, you can change the scenario, in which now suddenly she is not returning home and you may continue your conversation with your friend. The reason that you are generating this imagery of him incorporating laughter is that it is YOUR dream. It is not necessary for him to leave, for you are creating the dream. Therefore, it is humorous, for unless you are inserting her into your dream, she is actually not returning home. Therefore, the threat is not actually real.

DANIIL: It makes perfect sense that in those rare moments when I am paying attention, I can...

ELIAS: Stop!

NATASHA: He’s discounting.

ELIAS: Yes. One point for you (pointing to Natasha); one point away for you (indicating Daniil).

DANIIL: In those (inaudible) moments when I am aware... (Laughter) I can take it a step further and I can appreciate myself and give myself points. That makes perfect sense. But when I am not quite so aware, are there some focal points that I can use? Is there some perhaps humorous imagery or something, some trigger that would catch my attention and would tell me I’m not paying attention again? Because when I am lost, I’m lost. How do I find myself when I am lost?

ELIAS: If you are absorbed in paying attention to some action or manifestation outside of yourself in which you are not aware of yourself or what YOU are doing, trigger yourself. Incorporate a physical action. Do this intentionally initially.

If you are in any situation, any scenario which you are engaging conversation or interaction with another individual and you are absorbed in paying attention to the other individual, intentionally generate a physical action. If you are sitting, stand. If you are standing, sit. Or if you are walking, reverse direction. Intentionally create an action that is a distracting action, a physical action. This shall remind you. That shall be your trigger.

It perhaps shall be somewhat more easily expressed to remember to incorporate an alternative physical action, and it may even be an interesting exercise and somewhat fun in surprising yourself at how many times within a day you may be incorporating this type of action. You may also enlist the cooperation of your partner to remind you, by in you noticing (to Natasha) — do not offer information or instruct — generate some action of surprise.

NATASHA: I like that! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Therefore, you shall know each time she incorporates an unexpected action of surprise, that is your trigger point to pay attention to you.

DANIIL: It’s real hard for me to imagine her being more surprising than she is right now. (Laughter)

ELIAS: (Laughs) Perhaps now each surprise shall be a trigger to remind you. That shall be quite encouraging of you to be paying attention to yourself much more often!

DANIIL: Thank you. Would you like to take over?

NATASHA: Yes, I would. I have so many questions about myself and about others. Since we spoke about dreams, I want to talk about my dreams a little bit. We spoke already about his friend Felix, and now I want to talk about that really often I have dreams about a person that I loved and still love. Just to compare the dreams I had a few years ago and now, there is a difference in them. I don’t remember again the specifics, but now I see myself as being more accepted with this other person and showing signs of affection. I wanted to know, is that imagery that I’m creating for myself, acknowledging my understanding and acknowledging myself and allowing myself to be more myself, or is it real communication from the other?

ELIAS: Both.

NATASHA: My assessment is correct that I’m just showing myself that I’m not that bad and I’m moving?

ELIAS: You are correct.

NATASHA: Now, regarding this situation at work, I’m creating again this stress and a lot of work. Actually, coming here was under question, but I still managed to come here. I’m analyzing all the time, and ask myself what am I doing? Why am I doing this? So, it’s a hamster wheel. My assessment of this is one aspect of this thing is I’m trying to push myself into a different direction, where I can make a living not doing what I’m doing. Yet, there is a cage, because generally what I’m doing, not under stress, I enjoy doing. I do draw satisfaction when I complete my work, and I’m immersed in it so fully, like with my hands and feet. I’m all in it. Yet sometimes stuff comes and is frustrating, and I have to push myself and work and work, and when I’m stressed I’m not very good. I guess I’m trying to get my attention by biting my hands and stuff, trying to stop this, the ball of snow that has become bigger and bigger and bigger. I’m trying to understand where I’m moving, what are my choices, and I still don’t know. I still don’t know where I want to move, because there’s so little time left to analyze it. It’s very hard.

ELIAS: What is your time constraint?

NATASHA: My time constraint is I’m thinking about it constantly but it doesn’t get me anywhere. I have to work, I have to get the job done, and it takes my attention from analyzing to actually do the work that I’m supposed to do.

ELIAS: What your challenge is is actually how you are directing your attention, not necessarily the tasks or the job, so to speak. It is more associated with your attention, for you are projecting your attention and generating scatteredness.

NATASHA: Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to look at, scatteredness.

ELIAS: In this, if you are allowing yourself to relax, not push — pushing is unnecessary — if you are allowing yourself to relax and focus your attention in the now in association with what you are actually doing, being aware of your reality in the now, in the moment — not projecting in anticipation of future, which may be one half of an hour from now, not projecting pastly that one hour ago you did not accomplish enough and therefore now you must be pushing harder, no — focus your attention in the now and be aware of what you are doing, you shall discover that you incorporate much more time than you perceived previously. For in projecting your attention and generating this scatteredness, you prevent yourself from accomplishing in each now. Therefore, you generate this perception that you are always attempting to catch up.

Whereas, if you focus your attention and center yourself in one direction and continue with that one avenue until its completion and pay attention in the now, you shall eliminate this stress and this pressure that you are expressing within yourself. You shall also stop generating expectation of yourself, which generates considerable pressure with you, for you are continuously generating these expectations: I should, I have to, I cannot, I should not.

NATASHA: I understand what you are saying. In general, this situation, does this have any intent on my side to push myself into a different direction in terms of making a...?

ELIAS: That is a choice.

NATASHA: I’m trying to figure out what is my choice, what I am choosing here?

ELIAS: The point in this present now is to be evaluating — not analyzing — evaluating what your preferences are, becoming more familiar with your preferences. The manner in which you accomplish that is to pay attention to what you are doing now in each moment and allow yourself to evaluate: is this my preference, do I prefer this action, or am I generating this action associated with “I have to” or “I should”? Do I prefer this interaction, or do I not prefer this interaction?

You may be moving yourself eventually in that direction of generating changes, but prior to that it is important that, once again, you do not overwhelm yourself by continuously analyzing and continuously questioning but rather allowing yourself to relax and to pay attention in the now to what you are doing. That shall allow you more clarity rather than frustration and scatteredness, which encourages you to discount yourself.

NATASHA: I’m trying not to discount myself. I’m trying to understand, and yes, you’re right.

DANIIL: When I changed my previous job, I used the method where I decided that until I learn to enjoy what I am doing right now, I probably won’t change it, because there was a value in my discomfort with what I’m doing now. To start enjoying it was not difficult. I found parts of it that I enjoyed, and the situation began to change, and a change occurred. So would you say for some people it’s a valid method?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: But I still enjoy what I am doing. I’m not saying that I’m completely not enjoying it. I do enjoy it, but I do enjoy doing it not under stress, not under pressure — not from myself but from outside. I perceive it as an outside pressure.

DANIIL: So would it be a shift in your attention more towards the enjoyment part of it...

NATASHA: I realize the enjoyment. I don’t know what is there to shift.

ELIAS: No, in this situation it is more associated with being present in the now and being focused, for you are generating a scatteredness concerning yourself with other individuals and what they are expressing or what they are doing. In that, you generate this scatteredness, for you are no longer focused upon what you are doing. Therefore, you incorporate, figuratively speaking, loss of time, for your attention is diverted to the other individuals and concerning yourself with that rather than focusing your attention upon the action that you are engaging. Rather than paying attention to the task that you are doing, you stop doing, for you are paying attention and concerning yourself with what other individuals are doing.

NATASHA: I understand that. By the way, if you remember, we spoke in Louisiana, New Orleans, about the situation with coworker. Now it’s much better.

ELIAS: Congratulations.

NATASHA: Thank you. I’m enjoying it very much. It’s so much easier.

ELIAS: Cooperation is much easier than opposition.

NATASHA: My friend at work helped me with the situation. She was like mediating the two of us, and it’s a big help. It makes things enjoyable. But again, I have this constant challenge with this situation at work about expectations of what I’m supposed to do and how I’m supposed be performing. That’s what I have to deal with in this time. I have to still accept myself more and not to push myself and not to discount myself.

Speaking of work, I wanted to ask about three individuals. About my friend at work, I was curious about her essence name and her family.

ELIAS: And your impression?

NATASHA: I don’t know about her essence name. I think one of her families is Borledim. About the other one, I’m not sure — Ilda or Sumafi, not sure.

ELIAS: Ilda.

NATASHA: Ilda is the alignment or...?

ELIAS: Alignment.

NATASHA: Another friend in my band that I’m playing, Maya, I was curious. All of a sudden I had this name “Numah” came into my mind. I’m curious, is this her essence name or her focus name? Is there any association?

ELIAS: A focus name, in which you incorporate a focus with that individual in a strongly expressed relationship.

NATASHA: What kind of a relationship?

ELIAS: Friendship very strongly, but also siblings.

NATASHA: What’s her essence name?

ELIAS: Noala, N-O-A-L-A (NO luh).

NATASHA: What about the other one? I didn’t ask about (inaudible) essence name, and she was curious about it. The one who’s Ilda aligned.

ELIAS: Avan, A-V-A-N (ay VAN).

NATASHA: My friend at work, Tamara, she was curious about her connection, her interest in Agatha Christie. She reads her books for years, and she’s enjoying it, and she finds comfort in it. Is there anything?

ELIAS: She incorporates a focus as a friend of this author, and she also engages counterpart action.

NATASHA: Counterpart action, cool. I’ll tell her. What about her husband’s essence name? She associates him with a squirrel for some reason. Is this valid, this association?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: It is? (Laughter) And what would be his name?

ELIAS: Braxton, B-R-A-X-T-O-N.

NATASHA: That sounds very much like him.

DANIIL: When you say squirrel as an association, can every individual be associated with one animal?

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: How do you see me?

ELIAS: A chipmunk. (Natasha laughs)

DANIIL: And me?

ELIAS: A cheetah.

NATASHA: Oh, that’s beautiful.

ELIAS: But also exhausting. (All laugh)

NATASHA: You’re always running!

ELIAS: Quite graceful, but you do incorporate very similar energy. This particular creature, as it hunts, it incorporates such pushing of its energy that as it accomplishes its kill, it cannot eat it. (Daniil laughs)

NATASHA: Wow. There is something to think about!

DANIIL: Maybe you should ask about Tamara herself.

NATASHA: Yes, what about her, the one who is a friend of Agatha Christie, in the office? What about her association with an animal?

ELIAS: A baboon. (Laughter)

NATASHA: Oh, she’s not going to like it! She’s so much into beauty and art.

ELIAS: Baboons are quite appreciative creatures and quite social.

NATASHA: Now, Elias, I want to talk about my mom. When I was ready for a session, I spoke with her. She asked me this, and I said I cannot ask this question. She asked me, “Ask him if I’m going to live or not,” and I said I cannot ask this question. Elias will say it would be her choice. But yet again, where is she moving? What is she creating? Is there any way I can help her? Do I help her objectively or what? I mean, I still want to be helpful. I do not want to create her reality for her, but I still want to be helpful, and I don’t know how.

ELIAS: The most helpful expression that you may generate is to be accepting. That will generate supportiveness. Whatever her choices, whatever her expression, if you are not challenging, if you are not attempting to fix, if you are not attempting to instruct, but allowing whatever her expression is and accepting of that, that generates a supportive energy, which the other individual receives, and it encourages them to trust their own choices. It is an acknowledgment of them. Also, you may be helpful in generating a genuine appreciation and expressing that appreciation to her.

NATASHA: I am trying to. I am doing it, and she says, “You’re saying it because you love me, because you’re my daughter.” But I think I’m doing it.

ELIAS: Yes, but it matters not that you are her daughter. You are also an individual, and your expression is genuine. It matters not if she discounts that. You don’t discount that. She may not necessarily incorporate in this time framework the ability to entirely receive, but that does not restrict your ability to express.

DANIIL: Is there counterpart action between this individual and myself?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Is it symmetrical or not? It goes both ways, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: Initially I had difficulties communicating with Natasha’s mom, either because we’re so different in some way or maybe it’s because we’re so similar in some other way. I was constantly arguing within myself with some of the moods or quirks that she had. Then slowly I moved into accepting, and now I think I’m accepting much more. Whereas she, on her end, did not seem to have so much problems as me at home from the very beginning. That’s why ask about whether there is symmetry or not.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: So, the nature of that counterpart action is, as usual, that she experiences something through me and I experience something through her.

ELIAS: Yes.

NATASHA: She is in transition?

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause)

NATASHA: (Emotionally) Very hard to accept.

ELIAS: It is merely movement to another country.

NATASHA: We already had one movement to another country. That was pretty traumatic.

ELIAS: This country is less traumatic. Remember, it is merely a matter of perception. Separation is a belief. Therefore, although it is real, it is a belief, and in that, it can be penetrated.

NATASHA: So I cannot do much except I can genuinely accept whatever she is...?

ELIAS: Correct, and acknowledge your appreciation.

DANIIL: My mother asked me a while back to ask for an example for her of some focus where she and myself and maybe my father would be together, that she could relate somehow to it. (Pause)

ELIAS: You incorporate a focus together in Palestine. Your roles are somewhat different. The mother is the role of the mother also in that focus, but you and your father are the sons. That focus would be in the time framework of the eleventh century. You do not incorporate wealth, but you are also not peasantry and not slaves, and enjoy a large family and what you would express as a jovial focus. Your mother is widowed but is prominently and fondly viewed in the community and incorporates many friends.

DANIIL: Are we Jewish or Arabs or...?

ELIAS: Muslim.

DANIIL: She will have a very hard time accepting that. What is our occupation or her occupation? Housewife?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANIIL: We had a session with Kris. I asked Natasha for that as a present for my birthday. I had a lot of hesitation, because I thought of it as a sort of a betrayal. (Elias laughs) That was challenging, of course. Then I tried to rationalize it. I said if Elias is blue and I can feel blue around me as a helpful energy and I can meditate on that, maybe follow that, then I invite Kris, say Kris is teal, for example, then all of a sudden there’s blue and teal. Am I confusing issues? Am I wasting my energy? What would be your comment to that?

ELIAS: Perhaps you were merely engaging a curiosity. It is not a competition. The blue and the teal may not match, but they are different colors. It is not necessary to blend them or to compare them; they are unique in themselves. Your choice to engage another essence is merely a choice of exploring and curiosity.

DANIIL: Yes, as a friend does not negate the previous friends.

ELIAS: Correct. You are not limited in how many friends you can incorporate.

NATASHA: I guess that’s it. We are out of time.

ELIAS: Very well. I express my encouragement to each of you. I also express my tremendous affection and appreciation of you both. I shall be anticipating our next meeting. Be encouraged, each of you.

NATASHA: Thank you so much, Elias.

ELIAS: To you in great friendship, au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 5 minutes.