Session 1705

“Lucid Dreaming”
“Overcoming the Fear of Dying”

Tuesday, February 1, 2005 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Christoph (Fiodra)

(Elias’ arrival time is 14 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

CHRISTOPH: Good afternoon, Elias! Here is Christoph!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Welcome!

CHRISTOPH: How are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

CHRISTOPH: I’m fine, thank you.

ELIAS: Very well! How shall we proceed?

CHRISTOPH: I have various questions for you. I would like to begin with the standard question about my essence name.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Fiodra, F-I-O-D-R-A (fee OH drah).

CHRISTOPH: What is my essence family?

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

CHRISTOPH: I don’t really know. I have the impression that I have a link to various families. One is Vold, one is Sumari, Sumafi, and Milumet. But I cannot decide!

ELIAS: (Laughs) First of all, let me express to you that you each incorporate qualities of all of the essence families, and therefore, you may be noticing some different qualities that are associated with each of those families that you mentioned. In this, I express to you, you are belonging to the family of Sumafi. You are aligning with that of Vold, but you do express some qualities of the Milumet and the Sumari and the Zuli quite frequently.

CHRISTOPH: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

CHRISTOPH: What is my orientation?

ELIAS: And your impression?

CHRISTOPH: It is intermediate.

ELIAS: Correct.

CHRISTOPH: My first question: I seek direct communication with essence, but I do not succeed for a very long time. I stayed with a Sufi group for over 20 years. But now there is a stagnation for many years, and here is my question. Is it beneficial and helpful for me to hold the contact with that Sufi group, or is it an obstacle for me?

ELIAS: It is not necessarily an obstacle. It has served its purpose, but you are somewhat moving in a more expanded direction. You are widening your awareness beyond the confines of the ritual and the philosophy of this group.

CHRISTOPH: What do you think? Shall I keep the contact, or shall I not?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is a choice. You may continue with your contact, recognizing that it is merely an outlet for you to be engaging sharing with other individuals, but not necessarily involve yourself fully with this group, merely for the reason that you are expanding beyond that philosophy alone. Therefore, my suggestion to you is that you allow yourself to be genuinely familiarizing yourself with you in an intimate manner, and in that action, allowing yourself to be more aware of yourself as essence without limitations.

CHRISTOPH: Then I have another question. For many years, I tried to transfer objective consciousness, as you call it, into my dreams for the same reason, but with little success. I have occasional spontaneous lucid dreams, maybe two or three per year, but not more even if I try hard. Lately, even that doesn’t work, either. So, my question is, what can I do to improve my skill to dream consciously?

ELIAS: Very well. I may offer you the suggestion that you temporarily alter your sleep patterns. In altering your sleep patterns, what occurs is that your objective awareness is more engaged, for you are interrupting familiar patterns. In the interruption of familiar patterns, in a manner of speaking what you do is generate an alert with your objective awareness, and therefore, it continues to be engaged more intensely.

Within sleep state, and especially in association with established sleep patterns, the objective awareness may not necessarily be engaged, for it is accustomed to not being engaged within that particular time framework. Dream imagery is generated by the objective awareness’ involvement in the activity that is being generated subjectively. Therefore, if you alter your sleep patterns, your objective awareness shall pay attention, and you shall much more easily engage the objective awareness in the subjective expression. In that, you may engage a nap or alter the time in which you engage sleep within your night hours.

CHRISTOPH: Shall I go later to bed, for example, or earlier?

ELIAS: What may be efficient initially is to temporarily interrupt the sleep cycle. For example, if you retire at an earlier hour, interrupt your sleep time subsequent to several hours, perhaps three or four, and thusly allow yourself, after you have interrupted your sleep, to return to your sleep state. In that, you may more likely notice that you engage dreaming after the interruption. Not necessarily within the hours that you initially engage your sleep state, but after you have interrupted that sleep state and thusly returned to your sleep state, you may begin to notice that you are engaging your objective awareness and you are generating dream imagery.

I may express to you, generally speaking, for the most part although individuals think that they may be engaging dream imagery throughout the entirety of their night, in actuality, the dream imagery that they recall has been constructed within a relatively short time framework just prior to awakening, for that is the state in which they allow themselves to engage or re-engage their objective awareness. Time is very different within sleep state in dreams than it is within your waking state.

CHRISTOPH: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

CHRISTOPH: Because of the Sufi group and the bad success in dreaming, I lost hope and also my orientation. I do not know anymore what to do, as the material world does not hold too much attraction for me. I don’t know what I am here for. I feel cut off and somehow in a no-where land. My question is, what other kind of contact with my essence could you recommend me?

ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you that this is not unusual in association with your orientation. Many individuals incorporating the intermediate orientation feel and experience in a similar manner and become accustomed to that. Therefore, they perpetuate a type of isolation of themselves, for they perceive themselves to incorporate an inability to genuinely generate a connection with other individuals. But I may also express to you that, although a familiar perception, (that) is not actually true. In this, you incorporate a strong ability to be connecting and interacting with other individuals and essences and yourself subjectively quite well.

Now; in subjective connection, this is not to say that you shall not incorporate an objective awareness of that. It may be somewhat interesting to you to begin experimenting and playing with projections of energy. You may engage other individuals in that activity, or you may engage other essences within nonphysical areas, or you may even experiment and be playful with projecting energy in association with other physical dimensions. That may be somewhat of a curious interest for you to engage, for it incorporates fun and is somewhat adventurous.

CHRISTOPH: I have some experience in that, but I was deeply frightened because it was associated with very strong energy phenomena. I was not sure if I damaged my body with that.

ELIAS: No. Let me express to you, you yourself incorporate a tremendously powerful energy. You restrain that energy, but in association with your orientation, also you incorporate a great passion, which at times may be somewhat of a fearful expression to you, as it is with many individuals that incorporate the intermediate orientation. But I may express to you, it is not necessary to fear this passion and this power in energy, for it may be tremendously liberating to you in allowing yourself incrementally to explore how you may manipulate that energy. Know within yourself, be assured, that in that action, if you are generating that type of exploration as a game in a playful manner, you shall not offend yourself and you shall not damage yourself. The fear itself may be more restricting and damaging than the actual experimenting with energy.

CHRISTOPH: I have lately a dream which hints that I could have fear about lucid dreaming, a fear to die. How can I overcome this fear?

ELIAS: I may express to you, perhaps engage within waking state some visualizations in association with death.

Now; in those visualizations, incorporate the information that death is merely a choice to move into a different direction. None of your identity is lost; none of the essential you is lost. Generally speaking, for a time framework subsequent to that choice of death, individuals generally do continue to generate objective imagery in association with continuing within physical focus.

Now; that also may be viewed in a playful manner. For once you engage the choice of death, and if you are continuing to generate objective imagery, temporarily it may appear to you that you are continuing within physical focus. But eventually, you begin to notice oddities in what you are creating.

As an example, you may be engaging an interaction with another individual in your objective imagery that you are creating, and perhaps you become distracted as you engage the interaction. You begin to drift in relation to your thoughts. Suddenly, you are no longer engaging the other individual in interaction, but you are exploring some area in another country, which may be somewhat amusing rather than frightening. For, you begin to recognize that you may manipulate your environment merely with your attention, and that if your attention moves to another location, you also move to another location.

Death is merely a choice. It is a choice to open another door and move into another environment. I may express to you quite definitely in assurance of you, in the moment that you engage that choice, you shall experience a tremendous neutrality. There shall be no actual pull in any direction. You shall experience a neutrality that is somewhat consuming. In that, you shall notice that it genuinely is merely a choice, and it is merely a matter of what direction you incorporate more curiosity for.

CHRISTOPH: Yes, I understand. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

CHRISTOPH: From time to time, I have contacts with Carl Jung, who speaks through a medium, but I am not sure about the quality of his words. So, my questions are, is he really the focus who was Carl Jung, and is it beneficial and helpful for me to hold that contact?

ELIAS: I may express to you, yes, it is an actual energy exchange, but there is some element of distortion in conjunction with bleed-through of the physically focused individual’s beliefs.

Now; in knowing that, remember, that does not invalidate the exchange or the information. It is merely a matter of whether you resonate with the information that is being offered or not. But I may also express to you in relation to any energy exchange regardless of how it is generated, regardless of whether it incorporates distortion or a filtration of an individual’s beliefs, what is significant for you to pay attention to is what you resonate with and to listen to yourself and how you filter whatever information you are presenting to yourself, not to accept any information as absolute or as the one right expression — for the one right expression is your own, and it is more important for you to listen to you and to follow your energy and your impressions and what information you offer to yourself. In that, recognize that whatever you present to yourself, you are presenting for it is offering you some element of information. It may not be in entirety, but you would not engage these actions or these exchanges if you were not offering yourself some element of information. Therefore, in some capacity it is all valuable to you, and it is all beneficial to you. It is significant that you allow yourself to pay attention to your energy and what you resonate with. In that, you shall more efficiently draw the type of information that you seek.

CHRISTOPH: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

CHRISTOPH: Then I have a last question. Could you help me, from your place, to find my communication with essence?

ELIAS: Yes, I shall offer my energy to you freely in supportiveness and in encouragement, and I shall express my energy with you in your physical focus. In that, remember, playfulness is important, for it allows you to generate much more of an ease in energy. If you are expressing an openness to my energy, I shall quite willingly play with you.

CHRISTOPH: Oh, that would be nice! (Elias laughs) Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. Engage these visualizations. That may be a helpful avenue for you to be engaging yourself as essence, and I may also offer the suggestion that you practice with projections. That may also be helpful.

CHRISTOPH: Yes. Projection from objective consciousness or from sleeping consciousness?

ELIAS: Objective.

CHRISTOPH: From waking, objective consciousness?


CHRISTOPH: Okay, I will try that.

ELIAS: You may engage that incrementally. Initially it may be somewhat validating to you if you experiment with that action with specific directions, such as projecting yourself to another location that you may not necessarily be familiar with, but that you do incorporate the capacity to validate. Such as, you interact with individuals via your computer, do you not?


ELIAS: Very well. In that, perhaps choose to engage another individual that is not in physical proximity to you, and project yourself to their physical location and subsequently verify with the other individual what you have presented to yourself.

CHRISTOPH: Yes, that’s a good idea. That’s a good beginning. That’s all that I have!

ELIAS: Very well, my friend.

CHRISTOPH: Do you have something to tell me?

ELIAS: I may express to you that you incorporate an interesting strength in your energy. You may use that quite efficiently in your projections.

CHRISTOPH: That’s all from me, and I would like to thank you for your engagement. Perhaps you will feel some contact at another time.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall be anticipating that. I express to you great affection and appreciation of a new friendship.

CHRISTOPH: Yes. Thank you.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend. To you in genuine fondness, au revoir.

Elias departs after 33 minutes.