Session 583


“Layers of Dream Imagery”
“A Sentimental Journey”
“Empathic/Telepathic”

Saturday, March 18, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Rodney (Zacharie).
Elias arrives at 2:31 PM. (Arrival time is 26 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good afternoon!

RODNEY:  Good afternoon, Elias!  It is good to hear your voice.

ELIAS:  And you also, my friend!

RODNEY:  Thank you.  I have some dreams I’d like to share with you.

ELIAS:  Very well.

RODNEY:  Before that, a quick question.  I spoke to you about the name Cheryl recently.  You gave me some very valuable information regarding my relationship to that sound, and I spoke to you of the girl who gave us messages during our healing circle.

ELIAS:  Correct.

RODNEY:  I’m wondering, I was so filled with the energy that she was expressing that I hardly even heard the words she said.  It occurred to me that if I knew what words she had said, I might better remember that event and better objectify it, and I was hoping that you might be able to share those words with me.  Is that possible?

ELIAS:  It is possible, but it is defeating of the point.

Let me express to you, Zacharie, that what you have allowed yourself to be experiencing is the exchange of energy, which needs no verbal communication in your language.

Let me also express to you that the communication that you offer to yourselves and to each other in energy is, in a manner of speaking, much more telling and impactful than that which you offer within the confines of your language, for many elements may be expressed within energy that you do not hold words for within your language.

Your language is limiting.  You have not created words yet for many types of communications that are consistent with your movement in relation to the activity of this shift and your widening of awareness.  This is another aspect of this shift in consciousness.

Now; let me express to you, many individuals previously have inquired of myself as to inner senses and the activization of these inner senses.  Many individuals have inquired concerning your telepathic abilities, or what you identify as telepathic abilities.

Now; this element of telepathy would be what we may identify as a type of subdivision of your empathic sense.

I am aware that I have previously identified this as an inner sense, which has been interpreted as a separate and individual inner sense in and of itself, in a manner of speaking.  But in actuality, it is an element of your inner sense of your empathic ability, and it is not limited to that which you define as mind-reading or the ability to tap into the thoughts of another individual.

This action of telepathy is your ability to be, in your physical terms, reading or assimilating the communication of energy.  Energy may be expressed in thoughts, and that is one element of this action or this ability that you hold that you term to be telepathy.  There are other aspects of this ability, and those aspects incorporate the understanding of the communication of energy, which surpasses your verbal communication in language.

Now; this holds importance and significance in your experience with this individual, for it offers you the opportunity to recognize the limitations of your language, but not merely the limitations of your language.  It also allows you the recognition objectively of what you are beginning to be incorporating objectively as you insert this shift into your objective reality, for you are incorporating actions that are not requiring of what has been established previously as the officially accepted mode, in a manner of speaking.  This applies to all of your reality.

This has been an example in your experience, allowing you to be interactive in the communication and to override your automatic attention, in a manner of speaking, for your automatic focus of attention moves in the direction of the familiar, and what is familiar in communication is language.  Therefore, you focus your attention in interaction with other individuals quite strongly in the mode of language.

You pride yourselves and acknowledge yourselves in what you identify as your abilities to be listening.  You credit yourselves in your participation in interaction with other individuals if you are incorporating the action of listening, for you also identify that if you are listening, you are offering yourself understanding, or you are offering yourself the opportunity to be altering your perception by incorporating information from another individual through their perception.

At times, you do allow yourself this action.  Many times you may be incorporating the action of what you identify as listening, and in actuality, what you are incorporating is physically, audibly hearing another individual, but you are not necessarily assimilating and accepting the energy that the other individual is projecting.

In this, as you override your automatic movement of attention to the language and turn your attention to the energy and allow yourself to temporarily engage this incorporation of telepathy — be remembering, this is not merely thought-reading — as you engage that action, you allow yourself the reception of the fullness of the energy which is being projected by the other individual through their perception.

This is beneficial to you in more than one manner.

It not only acknowledges to you that you hold the ability to be interacting with another individual engaging this element of telepathy, which quite efficiently may translate the communication through energy rather than language or words, but it also allows you to be assimilating an energy exchange in an objective manner.

It includes more of a communication than may be accommodated by your words.  It is validating and acknowledging to yourself, and there is also an automatic projection of energy that you offer in return, in a manner of speaking, which is validating and acknowledging to the other individual without verbalization.

This also affords you the opportunity to witness and to participate in an action that you are incorporating into your officially accepted reality within the movement of this shift, which shall become more and more obvious and more and more common in practice.

RODNEY:  I thank you so much for that.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.  Therefore, I express to you, allow yourself to draw upon the experience rather than the words.

RODNEY:  I think one of the traps I fell into is that I wanted to remember the experience, and I thought that if I knew the words, I would more clearly remember it.  But I hear what you’re saying, in that that’s a deception, and would defeat the whole purpose.

ELIAS:  Quite, for this is distracting.

RODNEY:  It IS distracting, and I myself find words — and frequently the written word that I see along the roads sometimes on signs — distracting.  They distract me from the moment and they distract me from what I am truly observing, unless, of course, that is exactly what I want to do.

ELIAS:  Quite.

RODNEY:  If I want to be reading something, that’s different, but if I’m confronted with signs when I’m trying to do something else, I find that profoundly distracting.

ELIAS:  This is the element of familiarity, which you are moving away from.

RODNEY:  In your discussion here of energy and the communication of it, recently I walked into our institute’s Sunday morning service.  It was the morning after our last Valentine’s party in which I had such a great time, and I almost never sit in the back row, but I happened to sit in the back row in the corner, I guess because that’s what I felt like doing, and as I sat there, even before the events got underway, I found tears coming to my eyes, and I found myself overwhelmed with an emotion that I can only describe by telling you that tears came to my eyes, and I allowed that to happen.  But frequently, when I am opening to the energies of essence that you so beautifully describe surround this sound that I identify as Cheryl, the tears come to my eyes, and I have this notion that perhaps I’m creating sentimentality or sentimental notions for the sake of bringing tears forth, and that’s a conflict.  It perplexes me.

ELIAS:  And why shall you be experiencing conflict in this, I inquire of you?

RODNEY:  Well, it seems that on occasion, if I bring forth the tears, I’m deluding myself.  I’m using that as a substitute for a deeper awareness.

ELIAS:  Ah.  Therefore, you are....

RODNEY:  I have a judgment about it.

ELIAS:  You are discounting of yourself, and....

RODNEY:  Yes, exactly.

ELIAS:  And you are also moving into automatic expressions and expectations and conditions within self, expressing that to be offering yourself the allowance of expression of this type, you must be also incorporating a deepness in profundity....

RODNEY:  (Cracking up)  Yes!

ELIAS:  And in this....

RODNEY:  I question my own authenticity.

ELIAS:  Quite.  And in this, you are also identifying in the terms of growth.  You are identifying in terms of depth in self dimensionally, and that you are moving up.  Now....

RODNEY:  (Laughing)  Thank you, sir!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

I shall express to you that this expression that you identify as sentimentality, I may offer to you in assessment is the presentment of beauty, in simplicity of appreciation.

This term, this definition that you en masse identify in such strongly negative associations, this expression of sentimentality holds a wondrous expression of simplicity in appreciation, in the purity of appreciation in any element and the recognition that no expression, no creation, no movement of consciousness is any greater or any lesser than any other, that all that is expressed, all that is created is equal in its wonder and its expression of gloriousness.

No element of any expression of consciousness may be measured in smallness or in immensity, for it is all the same in its existence, and it is all wondrous!

And therefore, I express to you the appreciation of your creation of this wondrously simplistic expression of sentimentality, and that you allow yourselves this offering of this expression regardless of the smallness or the largeness, in your assessment, of what shall invoke or be allowed to invoke that identification and that expression of sentimentality.  And this is not a distraction, for it is the purity of the expression of appreciation.

RODNEY:  Elias, that’s beautiful, and I really thank you.

ELIAS:  Therefore, my friend, allow yourself the indulgence in drowning in your sentimentality if you are so choosing!

RODNEY:  I’m going to have to carry a pocketful of handkerchiefs with me all the time, I’m telling you!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  And how glorious that shall be!

RODNEY:  (Laughing)  Yes, it will be!

ELIAS:  And does this not — this expression of sentimentality — offer you a momentary purity of expression of joyfulness?

RODNEY:  Oh, nothing compares!

ELIAS:  Quite.  Then why shall you deny yourself this experience, and discount it in your expression that you are distracting yourself into the true discounting of self?

RODNEY:  You’re right.  It’s only foolishness.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!  I express to you, my friend, that you may cry away! (Grinning)

RODNEY:  You know, something just caught my eye.  It’s on the other end of the spectrum, so to speak, of what we’ve just discussed.  In going over some of the dreams that I’ve had in my life, there is one image I recall.  It just spontaneously comes into my mind, and it’s a dream I had when I was very, very, very young, I would guess prior to sixth or seventh grade, and that would have been around 1940, before much of the horror of the second world war.

I dreamt that I was inside a huge open arena, like maybe in Roman times, with very high walls, and I saw, rising over the rim of the arena, a monstrously large skeleton, a skull, and I had a sense that it was black, although I can’t quite remember that.  And that dream image has stayed with me for a very, very long time, and that was one of the notes that I wanted to ask you about, and I was wondering if you would comment on that, or whether it’s not worth commenting on.

ELIAS:  I shall offer you commentary upon this imagery, for this may objectively offer information to you and to other individuals also that experience similar types of imagery which they view to be unexplained.

In this, you have offered yourself what we commonly identify now as a bleed-through of energy.

Now; it is quite apropos that you shall incorporate this particular dream imagery this day, as I have also offered you the challenge that you be exploring and investigating other layers of other dream imagery that you have offered to me.

In this, we may incorporate another example of the other layers of dream imagery.

In one layer of that imagery that you have presented to yourself — the layer which is most closely associated with your experience and energy within this focus — you have allowed a bleed-through in association with another focus which participates in warlike activities and that which you in physical focus identify as the atrocities, so to speak, that may be associated with the engagement of war.

Your experience within that focus has also created a tremendous expression of fear and a tremendous expression of what you may term to be hopelessness in that particular focus.

The expression within that focus and the experience in that focus holds such intensity that within this focus, as you have been participating in the movement of this shift from the onset of your manifestation, your awareness has allowed for an affectingness in a memory, so to speak, of that focus, which bleeds through into the experience of this focus.

Subsequent to the actual imagery in this focus, there is a continuation of an underlying feeling, in a manner of speaking, that is continuously present.  You may not focus your attention objectively upon it continuously, but it may be brought to your objective attention at will.

RODNEY:  Is this ... please allow me to interrupt you for a moment.

ELIAS:  You may.

RODNEY:  I think I’ve been aware most of my life that there is a part of me that has an incredible ... I’ll use the term fascination with death and destruction and warlike activities, and I’ve always sensed in some way that I was capable of incredible horrors.  It has been the subject of many of my dreams over the years.

As a young boy, instead of going to see the comic shows on Saturday afternoon in the theater, they also showed us the atrocities of the concentration camps in which they slaughtered the Jews in the second world war.  And then when I grew up to be in high school, I read so many books about Hitler that my English instructor told me I could no longer read any more of them — that kind of fascination.  So what you’re saying truly does not surprise me.  My question is, is what I’m doing in this focus in any way helpful to that other focus?

ELIAS:  Energy that you express in this focus is automatically expressed to the other focuses.  There is....

RODNEY:  I guess when I say that, I guess I have some judgment about that other focus as being in some way a victim, and I don’t want to hold my perception of that focus in that way.  But it just seems to me that energy that would give that focus some relief from the fear would be something I would like to see.

ELIAS:  And you may be, in your terms, helpful in that type of desire, in allowing yourself to be accepting and to not be continuing in your expression of judgment, but the recognition that these are chosen experiences.

Now; let me also express to you, I am not creating a statement to you that this be synonymous with a lack of emotion.  You may be incorporating emotion in relation to the experiences of other focuses.

Let me express to you in simplicity, Zacharie, in relation to your physical body.

You may be incorporating hammering your toe, and you may incorporate physical pain.  Your toe is an element of your physical body.  Other parts, so to speak, of your physical body consciousness shall be responsive to that action of hammering your toe.  Your thoughts in your attention shall immediately move to be focused upon the action which is incorporated in relation to the toe.

Your toe is not your physical head.  Your toe does not incorporate the entirety of your neurological system, but your neurological system shall be affected by the incorporation of experience of that one toe, for it is an element of the entirety of the body.

In like manner, what is occurring in one focus is also you, therefore is affecting of you.  In like manner, what is occurring in your focus is affecting of other focuses, and what shall be the most affecting — in what YOU assess to be helpful — is your movement into acceptance.

For just as within your physical body, you may be the individual that is creating the hammering of your own toe.  If you are not incorporating the judgment that the action of hammering your own toe is bad, you may also be affecting of how the hammering of your own toe is received.

In this, if you are recognizing that the hammering of your toe is a choice and that it may be perceived in whichever manner you choose — that you do hold choice, therefore creating the acceptance — you may be hammering of your toe and not incorporating pain, and in the lack of pain, you shall not be incorporating the distraction of attention of other elements of your physical body consciousness, and your thought process may not shift to your toe, for it is not assessing pain.

Therefore, your toe may incorporate its experience and not have that experience be perpetuated by other elements of your physical body consciousness and your thought process.

If you are incorporating the judgment that this hammering of your toe is wrong and that it shall incorporate cause and effect and that you shall incorporate pain, you shall turn your attention within your thoughts to your toe, and you shall concentrate within your thoughts upon the painfulness of your toe and therefore perpetuate the action.

In like manner, you may perpetuate or lend energy to the perpetuation of those experiences within other focuses that you assess as negative — or positive, it matters not — through your attention with them.

Now; this moves us in our circle, once again, to your imagery, and that the underlying feeling has continued throughout your focus in relation to this dream imagery.  Other individuals create very similar expressions.

In this, as you allow yourself to identify what is occurring, many times the mere identification of that action within the other focus eliminates the underlying energy of continual judgment.

Now; the reason that this energy of judgment is eliminated is that within one focus, you create dream imagery in this manner.  You do not offer yourself objective information or recognition that what you have created in imagery is directly related in association to an experience which is occurring within another focus.

It is you, but it is not you.

Now; in this, as you do not offer yourself that information, you continue to hold to the energy of that experience, and as you hold that energy of that experience underlyingly within this focus, you continue to place judgments upon self....

RODNEY:  Because I don’t distinguish it as being different from me.

ELIAS:  Correct.  Therefore, you perpetuate the energy in this focus, which also lends to the perpetuation of the energy in the other focus, for you are creating a judgment within this focus upon self.  You are creating the judgment that you have created a disturbing and negative type of imagery which is bad, and which has, in the belief of cause and effect, created an uncomfortable and distasteful feeling and emotion.

RODNEY:  Can I stop you for one second?

ELIAS:  You may.

RODNEY:  I want to change this tape. (Pause)  Can I ask you to repeat that last phrase?

ELIAS:  Yes.  This holding of this energy creates the action, within your beliefs, of the identification of cause and effect.  You have created the negative dream imagery, which creates — in the action of your association of beliefs of cause and effect — negative and uncomfortable or distasteful emotions, and even to a point, physical feelings.

In this, you assess that there is some element wrong with you that you shall be creating these feelings and emotions and imagery.  Therefore, you continue to perpetuate this discounting of self, this lack of acceptance of self, and this judgment upon self in an underlying expression which continues throughout your focus which is directly associated to this particular imagery.  The imagery itself is directly associated to another focus, but you do not offer yourself that information in explanation objectively.

Therefore, many times — many, many times within physical focus — the mere identification that this is an action which is occurring within another focus releases you in this focus from the holding of responsibility in judgment of yourself in the creation of that imagery, which automatically allows you to be releasing of the energy and not continuing the perpetuation of these emotions and physical feelings which continue to rise up, so to speak, in your vernacular, from time to time, as they are not dissipated in actuality throughout your focus, for you are continuously holding the energy underlyingly.

Now; I shall also direct back to this particular imagery, for it is significant within the physical time framework.

In the physical time framework in which you incorporate the imagery associated with another focus of yours, you also allowed yourself a tapping into mass energy within the time framework.

It matters not that you did not incorporate objective recognition or what you would term to be knowledge of actions which were occurring in other physical locations of your planet within that time framework.  The energy is expressed regardless, which also ties into what we have discussed previously, concerning the communication of energy rather than the communication of words and language.

In this, you have allowed yourself, in that time framework also, to be tapping into that collective energy in other physical locations, which was occurring in similar types of expressions to what you are experiencing in another focus.

Therefore, you create the association, and in the layer that is not the most closely associated to you individually with this dream imagery, you have allowed yourself to be tapping into the viewing of probabilities that were being created in this focus collectively with other individuals.

Therefore, that layer of your dream imagery extends beyond merely you and your immediate experience and interaction, but outward, as the ripples within a pool as a pebble is dropped into the water, and in those outward ripples, you incorporate beyond your community and into the experience of the collective in consciousness within your world.

RODNEY:  It seems to me that the image of the coliseum stands for almost all of humanity, and I was in the middle of it alone, and that the focus, the primary focus of this coliseum was this incredibly huge mountain of a skull that was looming over the top of it.  So it kind of symbolized for me ... it was the focus of more than just me.

ELIAS:  And as a small boy in this experience, the physical imagery is quite terrifying and overwhelming.

RODNEY:  I don’t think I’d ever seen a coliseum at that point.

ELIAS:  I am speaking of the other focus, in which you do.

RODNEY:  The other focus does experience a coliseum?

ELIAS:  Yes, as a small boy.

RODNEY:  As a small boy, he does.  Very interesting.  I’m tempted to ask you another question.

ELIAS:  You may.

RODNEY:  This isn’t the only focus I’ve had that engaged in warlike activities, is it?

ELIAS:  No. (Pause)

RODNEY:  Hmm.  I don’t see any point in going any further with that question! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY:  Unless you do!

ELIAS:  You may be offering yourself your attention with this one area of imagery, and this may be enough, so to speak.

RODNEY:  In the act of accepting, it has occurred to me in contemplating this action ... I don’t know whether it’s a masculine thing or not, but when I think of action, I think of doing something, an outward action, a movement physically, and when I sense into the meaning of acceptance, there’s almost the image of non-action associated with it.  There’s almost an image of surrender or allowing associated with it, and those are ... could you comment on this?

ELIAS:  Allowance or surrender are both actions also.

RODNEY:  I know they’re actions, but they’re so different than what I seem to think of as action.

ELIAS:  I am understanding.  Your definition of action and accomplishment is an outward expression, and this is created quite naturally through the expression of your orientation, which is tremendously influencing of your perception ... which IS your perception!

Therefore, your automatic assessment of action shall be some element that you may view outside of yourself or created objectively that you may view, even if the action is not one that you may physically view, but that you may hypothetically view as communication.  You do not physically view the words within your air, but you view this as an outward expression.  This is the creation of the common orientation.  This is the perception.

In this, all that you incorporate is action, for you are energy, and energy is action.  It is movement, and in the expression of creation, you are continuously in motion, and therefore you are continuously incorporating action.

Let me express to you, this be the reason that I offer the suggestion to so very many individuals to be incorporating the ACTION (chuckling) of relaxing.

RODNEY:  The action of what?

ELIAS:  Relaxing!

RODNEY:  Relaxing!

ELIAS:  For most of the individuals that are interactive with myself are incorporating the orientation of common and share your type of perception of action, and therefore create an automatic pushing of energy much of your time framework, and this be the reason that I am expressing so very often to so very many individuals to be relaxing!

RODNEY:  I think that’s where the term “surrender” comes up for me, because surrendering, for me, conjures up the energy of relaxing.

ELIAS:  Which may be quite beneficial, and as you allow yourself not to incorporate the association of negativity....

RODNEY:  I don’t mean negatively.  I mean surrendering as ... oh, I don’t know, as one would surrender to the moment.

ELIAS:  I am understanding of your meaning, so to speak.  I am merely cautioning as to incorporating the action of slipping into the judgment associated with this terminology of surrendering.  Allowance conjures no association with negativity.

RODNEY:  Can I valuably associate the concept, especially if I’m viewing something which I tend to have judgment about ... I think you’ve spoken of all experience as valid.  I might hold a concept that if I’m looking at a particular experience, that this too has value, even if I am not fully aware of that value.

ELIAS:  Yes.

RODNEY:  Okay.  Elias, time is slipping by us, and I wanted to cover two other items kind of quickly, if I may.

ELIAS:  Very well.

RODNEY:  We’ve talked about the ripples that radiate out from the dream, and in our recent session, I spoke of the place where I work and the vine that was growing through it. ()

ELIAS:  I am recalling.

RODNEY:  You suggested I look at some of the ripples, and I have, and I’ve come up with these feelings.  For me, a vine is something that grows.  It’s very wild and very primitive.  It grows in the woods.  We have a lot of them around here, and I’m quite attracted to them, and they’re very natural.  They’re nature itself, so to speak.  The vision of this huge vine growing through the building ... for one thing, the vine must be very, very old to be that huge, and it has grown very ... it’s a very healthy vine, let me put it that way.  On the other hand, the building, the place where I work, to me has the feeling of, it’s not just the physical structure, but it’s also the mental, psychological, emotional structure that I’ve created in my life, within which I create value for myself as to my activities and in which I earn a living.  I create a monetary reward.  Now, the vine growing through this structure symbolizes for me that something very natural and very primitive and instinctual has developed in me that is destroying this other structure.  It’s breaking it apart so that it no longer serves the purpose that it served previously, because I can no longer quote “work there” unquote.

Another ripple is that the building has metamorphosed, so to speak, into a speedboat which is skimming over the ocean, and I’m hanging onto the roof.  This symbol I’m not quite as familiar with, although it is a symbol that I have had, of speedboats racing over the water, in other dreams that I’ve had.  It’s almost an escape from what came previously, but it also conjures up a feeling of freedom, an image of incredible action, and an image of something pleasurable.  My only sense about this image is that I’m hanging onto the roof and not necessarily driving this vehicle, and I’m not quite sure what that means.  I was hoping you might comment on my homework about looking at some of the other ripples that came out of this dream.

ELIAS:  I shall be acknowledging of your accomplishment in this challenge that you have taken up, (chuckling) and I shall validate to you, yes, you are correct in your assessment of another layer of this dream imagery.

Now; I shall also offer to you another layer which extends outward further, in a manner of speaking — that layer which is associated with this shift in consciousness and your participation of it.

You, as being an element of this vine, as are all other individuals, which may be associated with all of the leaves of this vine, and the incorporation of the collective, and the choice to be moving into the disassembling, in a manner of speaking, of the establishment, or what has been established previously in the structure of your officially accepted reality, and the replacement of that with openness.

You may associate your imagery of your speedboat with the incorporation of the rapidness of motion that is occurring in association with this shift in consciousness.

RODNEY:  Thank you, sir.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

RODNEY:  There’s not much more open than the wide-open ocean!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

RODNEY:  I was going to spend this entire session on a dream I just had, but obviously, we won’t get into it today.  But I had, very briefly, an observation.  A couple of weeks ago, upon awakening, I saw something.  The light was dim in my room, and almost before my eyes were fully open, I saw a brilliant grid, such as in rectangular coordinates of lines.  They looked greenish.  I’m not sure if it was a blue-green.  I think it was more of a green.  Lines of light had formed a grid in my room, like they covered the walls and the corners where the wall meets the ceiling, and they covered the walls and they covered the ceiling where they both come together, and I was hoping that you might comment on that, and help me appreciate what I saw.

ELIAS:  I shall offer to you your starting point for your continuation of your exploration within your dream imagery, allowing yourself to be objectively recognizing the layers of these dreams.

In this, your offering to yourself of your grid, so to speak, or these lines which appear upon your wall and your ceiling, are symbolically the creation of your imagery to yourself of some element that you associate with confinement and an enclosing, a reinforcement of your enclosure.

This is the first layer, so to speak, of this dream imagery.  These lines are the reinforcing elements to that which you already view to be holding strength and quite solid and enclosing, as the walls and the room.  The grid creates a reinforcing structure of this enclosing aspect.

This is an offering to yourself of some expressions within your focus presently that you view to be limiting and restricting, and that you are seeking to be altering in this time framework.

RODNEY:  Elias, is another ripple of this vision ... although it is a dream mission, I had the sense that I was half awake when I saw it.

ELIAS:  I am understanding.

RODNEY:  As a matter of fact, I thought I was awake.  But it’s true that I was coming out of sleep.  Is another ripple of this vision a realization that the physicality of, say, the room that I’m sitting in is really an object in energy?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.  This layer is what you would term to be farther extended outward from the first layer of imagery.

RODNEY:  Okay.  Sir, I thank you very much.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

RODNEY:  I really look forward to hearing your voice again.  I’d like to go over some more of these dreams that I’ve had.

ELIAS:  Very well.  We shall continue within our next meeting, and I shall be anticipating this.

RODNEY:  And incidentally, I notice that whenever I see blue anymore, I think of you.

ELIAS:  Quite!  (Chuckling)

RODNEY:  I even bought myself some nice blue bowls for my kitchen!

ELIAS:  HA HA HA!  And the world shall turn blue at the command of Elias!

RODNEY:  (Cracking up)  Well, I throw in a dash of yellow and a dash of red here and there!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

RODNEY:  (Laughing)  Thank you again.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend.  I shall be anticipating of our next meeting and our continuation of your dream mission.

RODNEY:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  To you this day, I express in affection, au revoir.

RODNEY:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:48 PM.