Session 1242


Friday, January 10, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Dawn (Awan)

Elias arrives at 9:22 AM. (Arrival time is 26 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening!

DAWN: Good evening! Or good morning, where I am! (Laughs) How are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

DAWN: Oh, not too bad, not too bad at all! I would like to ask you about some impressions that I have been having. I think they are impressions, because I have these things come into my mind and I think yes, that’s what that is, and then afterwards I start doubting and questioning — you know how it goes.

ELIAS: I am aware, very well.

DAWN: The first one that happened was I was watching a preview for a western on TV and I thought I have a focus there. The name Annie Jessop just came into my mind. How accurate is that?

ELIAS: You are correct.

DAWN: Because I am trying to understand how this works — I mean, where does that come from, that name?

ELIAS: This is you allowing yourself to listen to an avenue of communication within yourself, which is impressions. This avenue of communication taps into other aspects of yourself, and you translate that information through thought. It is offered to you from other aspects of yourself and your recognition of them.

DAWN: Well, I was reading some transcripts on the Internet and someone was describing you in another focus. I suddenly had this picture of a man, a tall man with a brown jacket on and long dark hair. He had his back to me, and I didn’t actually allow myself to see the face. Now, was that you?


DAWN: Is that in Vienna?


DAWN: Because you know how I gave myself the Vienna? I heard music.

ELIAS: Ah! Quite a...

DAWN: I find this really amusing. I heard some music that’s called “Vienna” in my head and I thought... So it was actually Vienna?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

DAWN: When I saw the vision, I had such a wave of emotion sweep over me. I can’t even tell you what the emotion was. It was really strong and I’m not quite sure what it means.

ELIAS: This is associated with that focus and the experience of that focus. In that particular focus, you do participate with myself in a strong friendship, but you also express a desire in that focus to be experiencing a different type of relationship, which...

DAWN: A more intimate relationship?

ELIAS: Yes, which does not occur.

DAWN: Rejected! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Not necessarily rejected, but in that focus I am participating in an involvement in a romantic intimacy with another individual. Yourself and myself continue to hold a strong friendship, but it does not develop, so to speak, into the type of relationship that you desire. Therefore, it is understandable that you would be experiencing a strong feeling, so to speak, and emotional communication in regard to that focus.

DAWN: Because it was very brief, the picture I allowed myself, and I didn’t see me at all.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

DAWN: I have been asking myself about famous focuses and I came up with the name Thomas Aquinas. Is this a focus of mine?

ELIAS: Observing essence throughout the entirety of that focus.

DAWN: But do I not have any famous focuses that are actually my direct experience?

ELIAS: Yes, and you may allow yourself to be investigating and offering yourself the information of what individual is you as what you term to be a famous focus.

DAWN: I will just have to keep plugging away at that one. (Elias laughs) I thought I had uncovered one but I wasn’t sure. So when you’re an observing focus, you actually feel as though you’ve lived that life?

ELIAS: Yes, especially if you engage that action throughout the entirety of the focus.

DAWN: That’s interesting, because I felt quite ambivalent about that being my focus. I felt I don’t want it to be my focus. (Elias laughs) I don’t know why!

You know when you are going off to sleep and you see the faces? I have seen the face of a black man with a beard and graying hair. Is that one of my focuses?


DAWN: Where? Is that South Africa?

ELIAS: Northern Africa.

DAWN: Well, that takes me back to Saudi Arabia and the focus that you interacted with Mark and I in. I think that was Saudi Arabia — yes, it was Saudi Arabia. Was that where I had the dream where I am on the beach on a horse? Is that the same focus?


DAWN: Are Mark and I brothers?


DAWN: And you’re a friend of ours?


DAWN: Mark’s impression of this — his impression not mine — is that we had a lot of fun in that focus.

ELIAS: That is correct, and some mischief! (Laughs)

DAWN: And he said I have to say to you that I am to compliment you on your nose. (Elias laughs) Was this some joke?

ELIAS: (Laughs) In that focus, yes.

DAWN: Okay, did you wear a black turban in that focus?

ELIAS: At times, yes.

DAWN: And did you have a falcon?


DAWN: He also seems to think that we were traders.

ELIAS: At times! (Laughs)

DAWN: Did this at times involve slaves?


DAWN: Oh good! I know it doesn’t matter but... (Laughs)

ELIAS: But at times the trade involved thievery! (Laughs)

DAWN: Oh, that’s okay as long as it’s not slavery!

I haven’t really got anything on the other focus in Greenland, so that’s something else to be looked at.

ELIAS: Very well.

DAWN: One of the other things I wanted to ask you was when you’re being interactive with me in this present time framework, are you doing that through alarms? (Pause)

ELIAS: At times, not always.

DAWN: Okay, so maybe I am missing something there? (Laughs) Because this started when I was a teenager, the electrical appliances. My electric kettle would switch on by itself, and once I worked out that it couldn’t switch on by itself, my thought was that it was someone who had disengaged, a relative or someone that I knew who was communicating with me. Would you be able to comment on that?

ELIAS: It is an interaction with other energies and your allowance in participation with other essences. This is the manner in which you have configured the energy as a type of signal to yourself of the presence, so to speak, of other energies.

DAWN: So do I do the electrical appliances, I create that?

ELIAS: Yes, but it is in association with other energies and is your allowance to be accepting those other energies or receiving and incorporating a signal to objectively recognize that you are interacting with other energies.

DAWN: Because it’s happened a lot with lots of different appliances over different time frameworks.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DAWN: So you can’t actually say who it is?

ELIAS: In this, it may be significant for you to be paying attention and allowing yourself to differentiate these energies and allow yourself, in a manner of speaking, to feel the energy. Therefore, you shall also allow yourself to identify which energy is associated with which essence. This also is a significant exercise to be incorporating, for it allows you to become much more familiar with your own energy and therefore recognize what occurs in association with your energy and what occurs in association with other energies.

DAWN: It’s interesting, because when it happened when I was a teenager I thought it was my Gran communicating with me. Then when it happened in more recent years, I actually felt it was my father-in-law — a different appliance, a vacuum cleaner and a hairdryer. So I didn’t feel it was the same essence.

ELIAS: You are correct.

DAWN: I suppose I can congratulate myself that I did notice some difference. (Laughs)

ELIAS: And I shall also! Ha ha ha!

DAWN: But when I was in the museum and you introduced yourself, I had no idea. I knew this thing had happened but I could not have told you. I had no impression as to what it was.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Merely for objectively it is an unfamiliar energy.

DAWN: But the thing about that is, it was a feeling of someone being close behind me and I actually saw something, so it was like two different senses.


DAWN: Is that really easy to do?

ELIAS: In actuality, yes. It is merely a matter of paying attention and allowing, expressing an openness and not incorporating a fear. For there is no harmfulness that shall occur; it is merely the playful expression of energy. If an individual is allowing themselves an openness and a willingness to be receiving energy, it is quite easily expressed and received.

DAWN: I have also experienced smells. Now, I imagine that this is a translation.

ELIAS: Partially, but at times it may be quite accurate. In this, you allow yourself to incorporate all of your senses to be offering you information. As I have expressed to many individuals, for most individuals do not pay attention, all of your senses are avenues of communication to yourself. Not merely emotion and impressions or intuition, but also all of your outer and inner senses. It is merely a question of paying attention to the information that you offer to yourself.

In this, you allow yourself to pay attention to all of your senses and offer yourself information concerning other focuses, other physical locations, experiences associated with other individuals, and your senses may offer you a type of trigger, in a manner of speaking. Your visual sense is not the only sense that offers information.

DAWN: Which is what I have been experiencing, I suppose.


DAWN: Because my impressions seem to be coming through in different ways. The faces also that I see just before I go to sleep, I saw one about three days ago and I saw it much clearer than I usually see. It was a young man, fair-haired, and he was wearing steel-rimmed glasses. The thing that really got my attention was that he was waving at me. So I don’t know, was this person aware of my viewing of them or was I just observing someone waving at someone else?

ELIAS: Momentarily the other focus was aware of you.

DAWN: Who is this?

ELIAS: Another focus of you.

DAWN: (Laughs) Is that all you’re going to give me?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) An Englishman.

DAWN: It looked like a present day focus or possibly future.

ELIAS: Future.

DAWN: I felt very attracted to this person. They just seemed so, I don’t know, bright and happy.

ELIAS: And this is you! Ha ha ha!

DAWN: (Laughs) One aspect of me. Okay, so going back to the famous focus question, can you give me any hints?

ELIAS: And what do you offer to yourself in your impression of where to begin your investigation?

DAWN: Well, I thought the Thomas Aquinas one was interesting, because also when you’re sort of half awake and half asleep, it’s like a different state that you’re in. I also heard music there and it was — I suppose really amusing — it was “When the Saints Come Marching In.” So when I got the Thomas Aquinas name, I thought that must be it. Do I have a focus where I am a saint or is it just that observing focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: Do you incorporate a focus as a saint? In your terms, yes.

DAWN: Would it be a minor saint? I mean, would it be one I would have heard of before or would I have to track it down?

ELIAS: It would be one that you have knowledge of.

DAWN: So is it quite a well-known saint?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

DAWN: You’re very vague, Elias! (Both laugh) You’re not helping my fishing at all here.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I am being accurate, for saints are well known to some individuals but not necessarily throughout your world.

DAWN: Okay. I bet your enjoying this! (Both laugh) Do I have a focus as an artist? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes, although this focus does not incorporate notoriety.

DAWN: I know, but I do feel a draw towards art in this focus. It’s quite a strong draw, and I wondered if I had been one or more than one artist.


DAWN: Can I take a guess on the total numbers of focuses that I have in this dimension?

ELIAS: You may.

DAWN: Eight hundred fifty-three. (Pause)

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you in listening to your impressions! You are correct.

DAWN: Oh, very good! I got something right!

ELIAS: In your terms, you have been correct quite often. (Chuckles)

DAWN: In the present time framework, do I have four focuses?


DAWN: Is one of those in Russia?


DAWN: Is this a male?


DAWN: Is the name Vladimir?


DAWN: See, I just give myself little tidbits. I would love to get more of it. I suppose I can if I choose that, but I just seem to have little glimpses. And do I have any in America at the present time?

ELIAS: One, yes.

DAWN: Is that a female?


DAWN: I am not sure about taking ... she is not called Denise? (Pause)

ELIAS: Danielle.

DAWN: Is she young?

ELIAS: Relatively speaking, yes.

DAWN: Do I have a focus in... Oh, I am not sure! I had a dream or I was dreaming and I was woken up, and this is why I remember this part of it. I was standing at the side of a field with men and it was like I got pulled out of that field because I had been woken up from my dream by the cat making a noise. It was like I had projected somewhere and I was pulled back really fast. The men in the field seemed to be aware of the fact that I came back, that I was leaving. Now, is that just something that is happening in a dream or is that part of a focus?

ELIAS: Yes, this is also associated with another focus.

DAWN: Because I was trying to pin down where this was. At first I said it was South America, and then I wasn’t sure if it was somewhere in Asia. (Pause)

ELIAS: India.

DAWN: Is that in the present time?


DAWN: The thing that I didn’t understand was how were those men aware of me going?

ELIAS: It is an awareness of energy.

Now; in this, at times experiences occur that individuals do not incorporate an explanation for objectively, and this would be one of those situations. For you projected your energy to that focus and allowed yourself participation in that focus and pulled your energy to this focus again. Therefore, in a moment you appeared there and disappeared.

DAWN: That would be so weird for those people.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Ah, but you generate these types of movements within your physical dimension more often than you think!

DAWN: It just seems so strange to me! (Elias chuckles) I seem to be connecting with a lot of essences when I am asleep.


DAWN: I had another dream where I suddenly became aware that I was dreaming, because I was walking through a house and I looked in the mirror and it wasn’t me looking back at me, and I got quite a surprise! It was an older woman with grey hair, and I was quite shocked. So that must be another focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

DAWN: That was so strange that! (Laughs) When you’re having these experiences or these dreams, you are the other person; you do experience that. It’s not until something in the dream strikes me as being strange that I realize, oh this is not me, although it is me!

ELIAS: I am understanding.

Now; I may express to you that some individuals allow themselves this kind of experience; other individuals may merely allow themselves to view other focuses but not necessarily experience them as themselves. Either experience is valid, but some individuals hold more tightly to their identity in this focus and therefore observe other focuses but do not necessarily allow themselves to experience other focuses. You allow yourself both actions.

DAWN: It is quite interesting to actually be the person. I actually feel more connected to them that way than if I was just observing them.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DAWN: It feels more like me. (Elias laughs) It is quite a big thing for us to get used to. We are used to thinking that we are one singular person.

ELIAS: Correct.


Vibrational tone">

DAWN: Mark has asked me to ask if you would give him his signature color tone.

ELIAS: Impression?

DAWN: He has offered sea green. (Pause)

ELIAS: As the essence tone, correct.

DAWN: Essence tone, that’s right. And for the focus?

ELIAS: Crimson.

DAWN: The colors, what is the significance of the colors? I know it is an interpretation, but the fact that some essences are green, blue — what is the significance of that?

ELIAS: It is merely a translation of a vibrational quality which each essence expresses and resonates with and each focus expresses and resonates with.

DAWN: So when you come into a focus, do you say this is what I am going to be? I am going to vibrate to this tone or...?


DAWN: It is not something that just happens. You sort of create it?

ELIAS: It is a choice, and at times it fluctuates. For an individual focus may choose to be altering their vibrational expression and that action would alter the translation of the color, which is not unusual.

DAWN: But your essence tone, Elias — does that stay consistent?

ELIAS: Generally speaking, yes.

DAWN: So it doesn’t change with your experiences or...?


DAWN: As you explore consciousness, it doesn’t affect your tone?


DAWN: The impression I get of my color tone of peach is I feel like that is a gentle energy. Is that an accurate interpretation? (Pause)

ELIAS: It is a translation in what is known within your physical reality, but it is accurate.

DAWN: But could you apply that to other colors? Like crimson, I wouldn’t think crimson was a gentle energy. That to me seems more vibrant, stronger.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, but be remembering that these are translations associated with certain expressions that are known within your physical reality, but they are somewhat accurate.

DAWN: Okay. You know, you occupy Regional Area Four?


DAWN: Do I occupy Regional Area Four?


DAWN: Now, when you’re in Regional Area Four, do you express any kind of emotion towards each other?


DAWN: It’s hard to understand isn’t it, for us?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Quite! For emotion is a base element of your reality.

DAWN: I know I must understand that if I am there, but from where I am here I cannot understand not having emotion.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but this is what is known to you objectively.

DAWN: That’s right. Would there be essences that you would be particularly close to — I know that this is a translation from an emotional point of view — or have friendship with?

ELIAS: In your terms, yes.

DAWN: I know everyone is connected, but you will have preferences?

ELIAS: Yes! Yes.

DAWN: Oh, just to go back to the Saudi Arabian focus, Mark came up with some names. I would just like to ask you if they are accurate. Mahmud?

ELIAS: Yes, and associated with which individual?

DAWN: Oh, he didn’t tell me that! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Very well!

DAWN: Abdullah?


DAWN: And Frissel? (Pause)

ELIAS: Frensel.

DAWN: Frensel — that’s pretty good, though! (Laughs) And we don’t know which one’s which!

ELIAS: Ah! I suppose you may continue your investigation! (Laughs)

DAWN: Thank you so much! (Both laugh) Well, there are two of us working on it, so that should help, shouldn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

DAWN: I think I am through my list of all the things I had to ask you, so maybe you might like to give me some helpful advice on how to ease my experience. I actually feel quite happy with the progress I am making. I still have things that I haven’t got the hang of completely, but I feel that I am making reasonably good progress. So what would you say?

ELIAS: And what are you questioning?

DAWN: Would you agree? Would you give me some confirmation that I am making good progress?

ELIAS: In your terms, yes.

DAWN: And in your terms?

ELIAS: I do not express in terms of good or bad associated with progress. It is merely a movement and choices and exploring, but I am understanding of your association with “good progress.” (Laughs)

DAWN: Very diplomatic!

ELIAS: For you associate that you are learning and therefore moving forward, and in this I am acknowledging of you in association with your viewing of yourself and your assessment of yourself. I merely express to you that you are generating movement. You are offering yourself more information in which you are widening your awareness, and you are allowing yourself more of an expression of openness. This generates more of an ease within your movement and allows you to recognize choices more easily and direct yourself more easily. But I do not deem it to be good or bad! (Chuckles)

DAWN: It’s a big one, that one! (Elias chuckles) After reading that information that it doesn’t matter, good or bad, I thought well, it doesn’t matter, you can do whatever and that’s fine.

ELIAS: Correct!

DAWN: Yeah, and I had such an unhappy feeling about that! Because up until I read this information I thought of myself as a good person. I hadn’t hurt anyone else and played the game the way I believed it was meant to be played. Then all of a sudden it was like it didn’t matter, and I found that quite difficult.

ELIAS: What matters is how you perceive yourself and offering yourself permission to express yourself freely and direct yourself intentionally through knowing yourself.

Now; I may express to you also, it is not bad that you view yourself to be, in your terms, a good person and that you choose to continue expressing in that manner if that is associated with your preferences. It matters not. It is what YOU choose.

Now; what is significant is that you may allow yourself to express your preference but not incorporate a judgment in association with other individuals who choose to be expressing differently.

DAWN: I think most of the time I do that. I am definitely getting better at not focusing on other people and what they are choosing to experience.

ELIAS: Correct; I am aware. In this, you offer yourself evidences that this concept can be moved into an actual reality through experience.

For as I have stated many times with many individuals, you may be accepting and continue to incorporate your preferences and your opinions, and these expressions are not at odds with each other. For in acceptance you are aware that you are choosing those preferences, and you are aware that your opinion is associated with your individual preference; but you are not necessarily generating a judgment in relation to yourself or any other individual. You are not expressing to yourself or others that your opinion is better or that your preferences are better or that they are right and a different opinion or preference is wrong.

You are merely acknowledging your choices in acceptance and recognizing that other individuals may be expressing differently and may incorporate different behavior. This is not to say that they are wrong, that they are right, or that they are better. It is merely an expression of differences.

As you have allowed yourself to experience more, you may also recognize that in expressing more of an acceptance of yourself, you are automatically expressing more of an acceptance of other individuals, and it becomes easier not to concern yourself with the choices and expressions of other individuals, and it becomes easier to pay attention to yourself.

DAWN: Yeah, I am finding that, generally. I mean, every now and then it slips with focusing in the now. This information is fairly new to me, and I think that you do get into the automatic habit of projecting to the future. I am constantly trying... Well, I am pulling my attention back.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this also becomes easier as you continue to practice. You are correct; it is quite unfamiliar.

DAWN: But once you are aware of what you are doing, of where your attention is, that helps.


DAWN: Because I am actually thinking now. Now I’ll say, oh that’s someone else’s business or, you know, that’s not now, focus in the now! I am constantly talking to myself like that all the time (both laugh) Eventually that will just be natural. I will be able to do it without thinking about it! (Elias laughs) So I think that’s more or less it.

ELIAS: Very well!

DAWN: Oh can I just, sorry, one more?

ELIAS: You may.

DAWN: Mark’s interested in his final focus. You said it was in the present time framework and he is curious about that. Are you willing to offer him any information? (Laughs)

ELIAS: I may express an acknowledgment that he is correct, and the other focus is, in your terms, quite young.

DAWN: He thinks he is about ten years old.

ELIAS: A little smaller.

DAWN: And it’s a boy?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

DAWN: I’m sorry. He just threw that last question at me!

ELIAS: There is no need for apology! (Chuckles) I am acknowledging of you both in your allowance of yourselves to be listening to your impressions, and I suggest that you each be acknowledging of yourselves also in your accomplishments.

DAWN: Okay, we will give ourselves a pat on the back.

ELIAS: Very well!

DAWN: (Laughs) So thank you for that!

ELIAS: You are welcome! I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and perhaps you shall each express an openness to my energy and I shall be playful with you.

DAWN: Are we missing it, Elias?

ELIAS: Not necessarily missing but preoccupied, which is quite acceptable for your preoccupation is with yourselves and this would be the point! (Laughs)

DAWN: Exactly! There is no one more interesting than yourself!

ELIAS: (Laughs) I am in agreement! I offer you great encouragement and express to you both, my friends, a tremendous affection. Au revoir.

DAWN: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 10:15 AM.

(1) Dawn is calling from Australia, where it would have been 1:22 AM, Saturday morning — 16 hours ahead of local time in Vermont.