Session 1058


"Validations"

Saturday, April 20, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Miranda)
Elias arrives at 11:05 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Hello, Inmi! (Elias laughs) Good afternoon!

ELIAS: And what shall we discuss this day?

ANJULI: Oh, we have many choices about what we are going to discuss!

ELIAS: Very well!

ANJULI: Well, Elias, I think meanwhile I have had this two- awarenesses sleep, this sleep with the two awarenesses, probably a little bit. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Define.

ANJULI: I was in the afternoon after meditation taking a nap and the body was resting, like sleeping, and I was like dreaming. It was not really like my waking-state feeling, but it was more fluid like, a little bit like dreaming, but I was not dreaming. I was directing it, or I was aware of it, or it was a subjective flow, and I was aware of my body and of what I did.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Therefore you are defining that you have allowed yourself an awareness of both the subjective and the objective movement simultaneously.

ANJULI: Yes!

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: But in the direction of sleep, and so that's a little bit different from the other experiences outside of sleep.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then, Elias, during one of those sleeps you visited me.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I was surprised about how familiar it is meanwhile for me, when at first you put this energy beam next to me and then I know that this is this sort of visit, when you are not fully physical but more there, more form or more feel-able than in a fully subjective energy connection.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: And we did a wonderful snuggle!

ELIAS: But this is your allowance, you are aware.

ANJULI: And Elias, during this visit, this time I was aware that you were less dense than me, and I had four arms, two sleeping arms and two which were hugging you. They were energy arms.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Yes.

ANJULI: So this is then my objective imagery of what we did in energy?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Also I saw this whole creation as a validation that I can create all the interesting adventures I am wanting to create and that I am already creating it and that I am preparing myself for it.

ELIAS: And you are quite correct, my friend. And does this not offer you tremendous liberation in an actual knowing of your ability?

ANJULI: Yes! Very much. I created for myself another one, and that was a while ago in the night in South Bavaria, where I live. They saw a blue light and it was very bright. There was a sort of thunder together with this light, and it was blue and white and orange. Later they discussed what it was. They called the police, of course some people were confused, and they later thought it was a meteorite, but they were not sure what it was. So I am very, very curious about what that was.

I first of all translated it as a validation to myself about what I am creating right now. Because after all, this blue is your blueness, and then this whole happening is a very powerful energy connection, some other-dimensional energy connection.

ELIAS: And what is your translation of the white and the orange?

ANJULI: Well, first I thought the orange is about Gramada somehow, and then I thought that there was another essence maybe participating in this creation.

ELIAS: No. What is the significant energy expression of the orange energy center?

ANJULI: Oh!

ELIAS: And what is the color that you present as yourself? White.

Now; your ingredients are the blue, the white - myself, yourself. And the orange significantly is expressed in what? (Pause)

ANJULI: What was your question?

ELIAS: What is the...

ANJULI: The orange?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The orange energy center, which stands for creativity, sexuality, energy.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh! And why is the white me?

ELIAS: For this is your imagery to yourself in designating an expression of yourself in the imagery of white.

ANJULI: Is the white also my focus color?

ELIAS: No, but this is what you present to yourself many times in association with yourself.

ANJULI: Yes, that is very true.

ELIAS: Your inner self you express in terms of light or the color white.

ANJULI: Even the combination of white with blue, sometimes not with orange, more with rose color, I used these three colors as a trigger for my own energy very often in the past in the ashram time. I use it in pictures; I use it in my own apartment.

ELIAS: Yes. But in your presentment of imagery to yourself, you have generated an association with a powerful expression of my energy, a powerful expression of your energy in interconnectedness and the presentment of the orange to define an expression of sexuality.

ANJULI: Then that's about what we discussed what we want to do, this transcending of the body and what Runi and Inmi are doing, when our energies would be merging. And we would use sexuality for that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: But after all this light was collectively seen, and it had an impact. I had the feeling this is what I also can create, because you have said in one moment my entire reality can change, my own or for us collectively.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Like with the World Trade Center, but we can choose another experience, not like with the World Trade Center, but we can choose something else. When this happened I thought well, now we have something where people were curious, they did not know what to think about that, and they had no scientific explanation for it. Then I thought this is sort of connected, me and this validation, which I felt because of what we both do together, and then also the collective, because I always think in those terms too, kind of.

ELIAS: Correct. Yes, you are correct.

What holds significance is what you have presented to yourself, for each individual creates their perception in their individual expressions and directions, and it is significant uniquely to each of them. But you are correct, that engaging this type of scenario you have created the scenario and all of the other individuals, for they are all you.

ANJULI: So this also means that there is a direction of our collective consciousness to create in new ways, although just yesterday we created another World-Trade-Center-like imagery. But also it goes in the direction that we create in new ways, like what triggers our curiosity and a new way of thinking.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then we talked in the mailing list a little bit about what happened yesterday, the airplane flying into a building again, and we had fires in churches, in a Jewish one, in a Christian one, and so we have the feeling all our towers, our beliefs, our religious beliefs, they just crash.

ELIAS: And they are beginning to do so.

ANJULI: Yes! Well, my duplicity birds are still keeping me very busy! (Elias laughs) But Elias, it was the first time that I had the feeling that partially it is no longer so challenging. I feel less challenged by my other beliefs, but the duplicity beliefs are still challenging. I had a few areas, a few parts of beliefs, which were suddenly no longer so challenging for me, and I just got a feeling of how to continue with that.

ELIAS: And what have you discovered in relation to your examination of duplicity? For this also is a belief system; therefore it shall not be eliminated either.

ANJULI: For example, I have doubts about creating this, or I think that to be bad and that to be good. But when I am aware of it, it's more like okay, that is there, and there is something in addition there. So this good and bad is there, it is kind of in my company, but I am not so identified with that. It's not all that I am.

ELIAS: And therefore you are allowing yourself to experience movement into the expression of and the recognition of that you may continue to express preferences and opinions but also simultaneously you may discontinue generating judgment in relation to any particular subject matter or interaction, and therefore move yourself into an expression of acceptance in relation to the beliefs of duplicity.

ANJULI: Yes. I also saw how much this changes then what I create. For example, I realized how I had attached lots of judgment around certain expressions of my mother, and as you know I was very challenged sometimes about the relationship with my mother. I discovered first of all when she is depressed because she thinks she has no freedom that this is also a reflection because I thought that I am kind of not free. I felt the same, only in a different way and not with this sort of depression.

So first of all I related it to myself, but also I discovered when for example she is impatient with my father that this is again related with me because I am impatient, too, but not like this. Also I discovered that whatever she is choosing to experience and my father is choosing to experience is not good or bad. It is now apparently lessening, or I don't know, as if my mother is a different person.

ELIAS: For you are generating a different perception, which creates a different image.

ANJULI: So this is then perception! This is how I am manipulating my perception?

ELIAS: Yes, which generates a different image and therefore creates a different physical reality. For you are allowing yourself to experience the recognition that you generate similar expressions as other individuals, but you create them differently. You create them in association with YOUR perception, which shall be expressed differently from another individual. But in this...

ANJULI: But I did not connect it, first, that it is the same.

ELIAS: Correct. But in this you offer yourself the recognition of what is being expressed, and therefore offer yourself the opportunity to be accepting and recognize that you incorporate different preferences and different opinions and therefore you generate different perceptions, and that this is acceptable and therefore there is no necessity for automatic response of judgments or justification.

ANJULI: Could it be also that my mother is moving a little bit along with my movements due to our counterpart action, that it sort of also helps her to move a little bit through her beliefs and to accept her situation in a new way, because she is accepting it more?

ELIAS: Yes, and also, as I have stated previously, the greatest offering that any of you as individuals within your physical dimension may express is holding your attention upon self and therefore generating an example, which expresses an energy which shall be accepted much more freely than any information that you may offer to another individual. Your mere being is much more powerful in its expression than what you may offer in information to another individual.

ANJULI: That's what you always talk about in your example of the straight little sapling.

ELIAS: Correct. This is your most powerful expression.

ANJULI: And regarding perception, I once went to my computer and was starting it, and then there was... Well, it is difficult to explain, but suddenly I was not able to go into the email. There was one link missing in a very unusual way, and there was no normal explanation of how this could have happened. I looked and looked and looked, and I just didn't see it.

Later at first I thought that is what I created, that right now I maybe don't want to connect with the others through email, but later I thought maybe that was also another thing with manipulating my perception and I created my computer to be different for to show myself that this is how to use perception.

ELIAS: Yes, and that you may create many unfamiliar or even what you define to be impossible manifestations.

ANJULI: Yes, and I was so much hoping for to create them. At first when I had created this with my computer, I was not realizing at first that I had created it. But I saw this again as another validation in that direction.

ELIAS: Correct. Ha ha ha!

ANJULI: Oh Elias, and then I suddenly felt like reading your sessions again, because for a while when we had started with the island sessions I was so busy with my new discoveries that I couldn't read the sessions anymore.

Then when I continued with reading them, just one after the other, it was again like I did last time, that each session talked to me about what I anyway wanted to know in that moment. For example, on the tape of our second island session when we talked about your dimension, you explained that there is no separation of attention that you are expressing and that your aspects or whatever are more interchangeable. I didn't know what that means. Because I am right now focusing on trusting that I can get all information myself, I tried to feel into your dimension and how it could be there and what you meant. Then I read session #156, in which you talked about the other Elias which was there, and that was so fascinating. I saw that I really do not necessarily need to ask you during a session like this one. When I want to know it, I will find it somehow in another way also.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, for you draw the information to yourself and allow yourself an openness in your awareness to be generating the information that you are seeking and to be incorporating and understanding. And once offering yourself the information and the objective understanding, you generate an experience to move the concept into an expression of reality.

ANJULI: When I thought about your aspects and about how this is in your dimension, I thought partially it feels to me like the aspects my focuses have but it also feels like other focuses of you in your dimension, but not like it is here. It does not feel separate, so I would not call them other focuses. It is something in-between how I feel about my aspects and my focuses here.

ELIAS: Yes, for they are expressions of attentions.

ANJULI: Because in your dimension, first of all, there is no time, then you cannot have... You do not use time in your dimension?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Then you can't have somebody in the future and somebody in the past and different space. You also don't have distances or something like that?

ELIAS: You are correct.

ANJULI: You can't have focuses in different time or space arrangements, and so it's just about attention?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So when you connect with another focus of another essence, let's say, in your dimension, then it's not like we do. Whenever you have your attention on them, then they are sort of together with you. It is not about a moving, like bodies moving or something like that.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Your other aspects, I could also see them, for example like your future, but you don't have a future. So this is when you, for example, have wider aspects, then it is like that? You know what I mean?

ELIAS: I am understanding, and I may express to you, in your allowance of your offering of information to yourself, you have offered yourself quite accurate understanding of what you were attempting to discover. For you are allowing yourself not merely an intellectual understanding or offering of information, but you are allowing yourself to move into an experience of the different types of movement, which may be challenging to offer explanation for within language. But I am understanding of what you are expressing, and what you have allowed yourself is an accurate understanding.

ANJULI: I had that experience before I read that session and I was so happy about that, that I had first got it like that by myself and then read the session as if you then talked to me.

ELIAS: Correct, for I do. Ha ha ha!

ANJULI: I had a tremendous joy about that. When feeling into your dimension it also felt like sort of experiencing it, kind of. Did I use my dispersedness or what for this? Or with what did I experience that?

ELIAS: No, this is an engagement of your inner sense of conceptualization.

Now; in this, also allow yourself to translate this experience to yourself, for you are essence also and therefore what you have allowed yourself in experience in conjunction with myself, you are also.

ANJULI: I wanted to feel into a focus I have in your dimension, and then I thought I discovered a focus that was so abstract. At first it felt as if it was not interested in me, which is not correct. It was just so... Well, it was very different. I connected it a little bit with your focus when you explained to the group in that session that it would be challenging for them, this sort of focus or aspect you have. So I thought again of this me-ness focus in your dimension, and then I discovered that I also have these several focuses of attentions that are not separate. Some are having more attention on physical dimensions and this other one more on some, I don't know, some group- or wholeness-thing or what, this other one has as an attention in.

ELIAS: Yes. It translates more accurately into movement than associations with physical manifestations.

ANJULI: Yes! And I think I know some of your, how do you call them, aspects?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Because this other one you mentioned in the session, that Vicki and the others said that it felt different because he was not using emotions...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: ...and you said he had a different energy, a little bit different.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: I kind of know him. I think it is as if you are a crystal - not like a crystal, but as if you have many faces or what.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Not faces, but something like that. You know my translation.

ELIAS: Facets, yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Yes, facets! Oh, yes! Elias, it is SO exciting!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I may express to you, as you are aware I do not engage that aspect in relation to my interaction with all of you for the most part, for your responsiveness to that aspect is much less. There is much more of an expressed challenge in understanding objectively and allowance for connection in the objective expression, for the lack of emotional incorporation of energy is unfamiliar to you within your physical dimension, and therefore there is much more difficulty in your translations of the information, and you challenge yourselves much more in your ability to be assimilating. But it has been purposeful at times to express another aspect of myself in this energy exchange to offer an example of different facets which are all the same essence.

ANJULI: It is as if you talk with me and with Leslie and you connect with my other focuses, and then you know all of my expressions. And I am allowing myself, and we are allowing ourselves, to also feel into your expressions.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I thought we would more be challenged by this one aspect of you during the energy exchange, but when it is a subjective connection then this would be similar to when I tried to reach to that aspect of my focus in your dimension, because I discovered when I stretch a little bit then I understand him or then I can connect. It is just different then, very different.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, which...

ANJULI: Has this other aspect of you done this blue light when I was dreaming of Lawrence? Because the blue light felt different than the other energies of you.

ELIAS: This is not the same attention as was expressed in that particular session, but another attention or aspect of myself - yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Has there been another attention or another aspect of yourself at the day of my second island-session, before the second island-session started?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: And have I been using another aspect of myself also during that time?

ELIAS: At times.

ANJULI: Ja. Then during the second island-session there once was also a change. It was a change in me similar to what I am now sometimes doing. We talked about the intimacy with self and you explained that to me, that this is my greatest joy to also allow the intimacy with self. Then there was a sort of switch. I decided okay, now I see you as me, or I shifted my perception about that or what, and then I felt like being different and you also felt sort of different. We later talked about the island and what we will do. So had I been starting to create another aspect, and have you also changed into another aspect then, or was it just because I felt sort of different?

ELIAS: No, you are correct in your impression concerning expressions of different aspects of yourself and different aspects of my essence.

ANJULI: This other aspect of myself that I am now sometimes feeling, is it something I created new?

ELIAS: No, it is present, so to speak, in existence. It is merely an allowance of yourself to move your attention to be engaging different aspects of yourself. Therefore in your objective recognition of it, it appears new to you for you have allowed yourself to move your attention.

ANJULI: She feels more wider kind of, more accepting, more self-confident, and the other one is still a little bit fearful or contracting.

ELIAS: And these are...

ANJULI: They are always the same aspect? No.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The same aspect, but I am filling myself more with energy, sort of. I expand or I allow expansion.

ELIAS: Yes, and there is an allowance of the recognition and interplay of different qualities that you incorporate but that you do not necessarily express frequently. This is the movement of or interplay of different aspects of yourself, for each aspect of yourself incorporates different qualities, and as one expresses, the qualities of another are latent. But in moving your attention, you may allow the qualities of any aspect of yourself to be expressed.

ANJULI: I also read your sessions about genetic information in our bodies' atom cells. When I am meditating, I feel it reaches into the atoms of my body. I discovered much more that my body is my own energy, and I love my body and I love every single aspect of it. I sort of fill it, and it's also like a supporting of the body with energy. The emotional and mental energy kind of merge with the physical, or I have my attention on all three of them. Then I feel my attention is not there, or there but on all three of them, and they sort of move together and support each other. So is this then also a new information that I put into the atom cells or wherever in my body?

ELIAS: What you are offering to yourself is more clarity in the recognition of the lack of separation. For within your physical dimension you generate perceptions that focus upon the expression of singularity and express quite strongly this belief of separation. Even in relation to yourselves, viewing yourselves as one entity, one physical manifestation, you generate separations and singularities of attention in which you separate your identification of physical body and your mental or intellectual expressions, your emotional or intuitional expressions, spiritual expressions. You do not associate these as merely expressions but different parts of you.

ANJULI: Ja, so it means that I am now more going in the direction on having my attention on giving subjective instructions to all of them together and not just to one, and I am more objectively aware of it. I can have my attention there and there and there, and it does not feel separate any more. Therefore they also are working different, kind of, because I don't experience them as separate?

ELIAS: Correct, yes, and in this allowing yourself a clearer recognition of the lack of separation and generating a clearer understanding objectively that your physical body consciousness and physical manifestation of your body is a physical expression of you as essence. It is not a vehicle.

ANJULI: I also had to think of an experience I had after the second island-session, after we had talked about that everything is a translation. I felt that before it was still as if the me-ness is more intense where the body is, although I am starting to feel being everywhere and feel the wholeness of me; but it was still as if my me-ness is more there where the body as, and I am surrounded by imagery. That is how I felt in the past.

For example, when I connected with you, I still viewed that with distance. I even did that with my subjective and my objective, although I thought I don't. During that experience, I felt that what I called me was more like a consciousness. I did not attach any feeling of limitation of a body or even energy field to it, and everything else, like my apartment and all that, was my imagery, my energy, created by me. But that what I called me was not in this body like I had experienced it before.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding, which is another expression of offering yourself an objective recognition of the lack of separation, allowing yourself to experience the lack of separation.

ANJULI: When I have those experiences when I am sort of mixed with you, when I was running around feeling me and you as mixed but felt me and felt you, so when I don't feel any separation from you then you are everywhere where I am, your consciousness and my consciousness, your energy and my energy. That means that your energy is also in everything that I translate or that I created, like in my body, sort of?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: My body doesn't mind when you are there also. My body recognizes you!

ELIAS: Yes. And you continue to be directing of your body consciousness, and therefore there may be an expression of physical sensation but no expression of rejection.

ANJULI: I had still thought my body to be some object and had thought it to be so dense that your energy is more surrounding it. Now my body feels more like a holodeck creation in the Star Trek movie.

ELIAS: Yes, you are translating much more accurately. In that analogy, you may recognize that the hologram appears quite solid and in actuality is; but it also is a projection, and in like manner this is the manner in which you generate all of your reality through the instrument of perception.

ANJULI: Then I am the computer of the hologram, and I can instruct my hologram as if I am on the holodeck of the Star Trek Enterprise.

ELIAS: Yes, yes.

ANJULI: This is, of course, applying to my body, because I was starting to think about experiences in the past... Oh, I also started to read The Picture of Dorian Grey, and studied your Oscar Wilde focus and thought there are some similarities between us!

I thought about the body because I was always fascinated by that thought of the body not aging, and I think I also created it already in the past by giving my body instructions. And my sisters said, "This is different in you now. Why is this like that?" People said they thought I am the daughter of my sister, or I look into the mirror and I look different.

So my body is sort of more fluid, like it is in this fluid dimension of my other focus where Lawrence also has a focus, because that can do with the body what it likes. Is my body similar to that - I can instruct it, and it is not a solid stone?

ELIAS: You are correct, and you alter the expression of your physical body consciousness continuously moment to moment. You may be manipulating energy to be expressing more of a fluidity of your physical body form and allow yourself more of an expression of flexibility in association with how you manifest your physical body consciousness.

ANJULI: And my physical body consciousness and the cells in my body are very happy about our movement now. They sort of recognize what we are doing. (Elias laughs) They are like a mass event!

ELIAS: Quite! Ha ha!

ANJULI: Yes! (Laughing)

There is one imagery in my writings about Runi and Inmi about which I so far did not talk, because it is so unusual that I had not thought that it could also talk to me. I already had troubles when writing it down because of language problems. When we said that my body recognizes your energy, it is about that. It is as if there is some energy structure which is generated when they did for the first time this transcending of their bodies and this merging and then put this energy expression of Inmi back into the past. Maybe that means that I am giving new genetic instructions into my body and I create the new body, but it has also something to do with you. Anyway, words can't explain that! I am using now very often this "somehow" feeling when I am giving myself information. I sort of understand what it is, although I couldn't put words around it.

ELIAS: I am understanding. You may in actuality alter genetic expressions if you are so choosing. They are not fixed.

ANJULI: I sort of link myself with you, only I can't use my-dimension explanations or words for that. That's why I said I am your sister. I mean, you do not have any body. But I know what I mean!

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ELIAS: Could it be that I am now sometimes using some religious focused-ness now, this "somehow" feeling?

ELIAS: No. This may be an allowance of your expression in association with the Milumet qualities.

ANJULI: Oh! Well, meanwhile I created an allowance for more sessions with you. I have more than enough for to talk about with you! (Elias laughs)

But I am a little bit curious about my exploration about the essence which fragmented from us. I thought the name is a soft sound. It is not just one syllable like "Jay," which would fit, but I think that's a focus of it. I came up with something similar to Ji-hal or Ji-han or Jivan. (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah - Jivani!

ANJULI: Oh, that is so great! (Elias laughs) That's a beautiful name! I understand why I love this essence so much!

ELIAS: I may express to you, your identification of Ji-hal is a focus naming.

ANJULI: Oh, great! I am happy! And I had lots of adventures with this future focus that fragmented from you, the future focus of Timothy.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

ANJULI: I meanwhile discovered why I had thought his house to be underground. I had just not looked to the other side of his house when I was in there. So just some general questions: after the session when we had talked about him, I had the experience that he projected to me and I to him, both at the same time, and I was aware of my projection to him and his to me. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then I was connected with him throughout the day, and it was very easy. It felt almost like me making holidays there. I have never experienced such a clear connection or projection.

ELIAS: And allowing yourself a playfulness in your expression of energy.

ANJULI: Once when he projected to me and I to him, I at the same time tried to put my attention on you. I lost for a while the ability to have my attention on all of this together, or it was confusing. I was more attracted by you, and he was then I think connected with you also, and there was an energy beam from his third-eye energy center. I asked you what that is and you said attention. I had the feeling that this is also what I get from the counterpart action with him. He has a tremendous ability of how he puts his attention of focusing on something, or he is having his attention on several areas or is holding it longer on one interest, for example.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Has he been Sumafi/Gramada when he was still a part of your essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then he changed into Sumari/Gramada, or even the same. It feels to be quite the same after the fragmentation.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: In what am I correct?

ELIAS: The same expression.

ANJULI: I also tried to get his essence name. I am not sure. I got something like Tano. (Pause)

ELIAS: I may express to you that you are close, and you may continue to investigate and I shall validate.

ANJULI: And his family name is Sutherland? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Well, we are done with one hour. Can I ask one more question?

ELIAS: You may.

ANJULI: For a while I was channeling or connecting with a being that I called Unicon, and that being didn't feel like a focus of an essence. It felt like a group of essences, as if it is a group being. I also associate it now with the focus I have in your dimension, or maybe that focus is connecting with that group. I always had this imagery of Unicon being like many snowflakes and that each snowflake is an essence. I was wondering about that.

ELIAS: Each snowflake is an aspect of the same essence, and this is the reason that you offer to yourself this imagery of collective or more than one, for this is an expression of one essence which incorporates tremendous volumes of aspects of attentions - which is you. And the reason that you imaged this to yourself in the physical expression of snowflakes, once again, is the indication of your allowance of your connection with your essence, for you incorporate another physical expression of white.

ANJULI: Oh! I like it! (Elias laughs) Oh, I see this thing with the white!

ELIAS: And now you may allow yourself the recognition more so of the diversity and vastness of yourself as essence.

ANJULI: Ja, and then maybe I as essence have fun in connecting with many essences. That's why I associated that?

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause)

ANJULI: I also very often had a connection with what I think is another focus of mine, which is a crystal being. Is this the kind of dimension that is mentioned in your sessions, which Ron also discovered such a crystal being? I think Olivia has also something like that.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Yes, I knew it, but... (Laughs) Do we have to close?

ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I shall be with you in energy expression, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting objectively.

ANJULI: Me, too!

ELIAS: To you this afternoon, in affection as always, au revoir.

ANJULI: Yes, and from me also in great affection and lovingness. I wanted to use these words this time!

ELIAS: Very well. Au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir!

Elias departs at 12:11 PM

(1) Anjuli's note: Runi stands for me and Inmi for Elias.