Session 228


"An Inner Landscape"

Saturday, October 18, 1997 © 1997 (Public)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Cathy (Shynla), Letty (Castille), Gail (William), Stella (Cindel), Bobbi (Jale), Jeri (Fromasch), David (Mylo), Tom (James), and a new participant, Lynn (Nymin).
This session was held at Angel's Corner in Valencia, Ca.
Elias arrives at 3:16 PM. (Time was ten seconds)

ELIAS: Good afternoon.

GROUP: (In unison) Good afternoon, Elias!

ELIAS: Quite melodious! Sounding like a choir this day! We shall be discussing consciousness; stepping sideways in consciousness and holding objective awareness of areas of consciousness. And also, we shall be discussing responsibility within what you are creating in consciousness.

You are the most familiar with your objective waking state of consciousness, but there are other areas of consciousness that are only very slightly removed from your objective waking consciousness. These areas are quite easily accessed. In actuality, you access these areas more often than you realize. You merely do not notice what you are accessing. An extreme example of one area of stepping sideways while you are engaged in objective waking state would be a state of what you term to be daydreaming. This is a more extreme action of moving sideways within your objective waking state. You may move slightly less sideways, holding to your objective waking state, not allowing yourselves to drift so completely as within a state of daydreaming but also stepping slightly to the side of yourselves, and you may hold a greater understanding of your reality.

In this, being fully objectively aware, you may allow yourselves a slight movement to alter your perception just slightly, allowing yourself to move into a feeling or a thought or a physical feeling -- not emotion -- and examine this area. In this, what I am expressing to you may be likened to creating a landscape for a thought, or creating an inner landscape for an emotion, or creating an inner landscape for a physical feeling; being fully aware objectively, fully conscious as you term this to be, and noticing a thought or an emotion or a physical feeling, and in this, isolate the individual thought or feeling or emotion and create a landscape for this within you. In doing this, you may view other elements that are connected with this thought. You wish to look futurely; you wish to see into your future. You may, by examining your inner landscape. You hold an emotion. You may create a physical landscape from this emotion. You may create an entire scene stemming merely from one emotion. Allow yourself to move into the area of the emotion, examining it, and from this allowing yourself to visualize, springing initially, colors that you may identify with this emotion. Create these colors into a landscape. It may be a forest; it may be a lake; it may be a beach; it may be a field. It may be any landscape that you choose; and as you visualize this landscape and you move into examining this, knowing that this landscape is created by one emotion or one thought or one physical feeling, you may allow yourselves to interpret the elements of the landscape, which may also inform you of the direction that you are moving into, which shall be offering you information of what you are creating futurely.

An example: You hold a physical feeling; an ailment. In this, you may look to this ailment; the affected area of your physical body; (to Letty) your asthma. You may look to the actual organs which are affected. In this, you shrink yourself into yourself, create a tiny little you, and place it inside of you. Look to the physical form and create an inner landscape. We shall use a landscape of a tree-lined meadow. In this landscape, as you -- being this tiny little you -- move through the landscape, you may view each element within this landscape -- each flower, each blade of grass, each tree -- as an element of you and the physical ailment. As you move through this landscape, you may alter the landscape. You may rearrange the landscape. You may place your trees in different areas; and as you move objects within your landscape, you also alter actions within your intent within your physical form, for you are altering your action. You may also allow yourselves clues. As you view new flowers springing up within your landscape, you may also interpret this as new elements developing within the landscape that is your ailment. As you view certain elements disappearing within your landscape, you also may interpret this as elements and aspects of your ailment disappearing. As you choose to erase elements from your landscape, you may also offer to yourself the acknowledgment that you are beginning to actively uncreate the ailment.

You may use this process of slightly stepping sideways within consciousness, being fully awake, being fully objectively aware, with many different aspects of your focus. You may isolate a thought, and you may create the same landscape. You may isolate an emotion and you may create an inner landscape which shall allow you to view aspects of this thought or emotion, and you may view what you may anticipate futurely; for as you enter more elements into your landscape, you may also be assured that you are creating more aspects connected with this thought or emotion. As you are eliminating elements from your landscape, you may also assure yourself that you are letting go of certain elements of the thought or emotion that you are choosing to be eliminating. You may also engage this process with each other. You may step sideways with each other within the desire to be affecting or helpful with another individual. In this, you may create a little tiny you, and you may enter another individual and enter their landscape. (Commotion in the room) I am quite pleased! In entering into another individual's landscape, you are not creating their landscape, but you may view their landscape. In this, you may be helpful in expressing to the other individual what you view within their landscape, therefore offering them more information also; for they may be blocking part of their ability to reach their landscape, and therefore you may be helpful in this manner. You may also intersect with another aspect of yourself, another focus, and you may connect with their inner landscape.

Now we move into the area of responsibility. As you are affecting of your own inner landscapes, you hold the responsibility to yourselves and to all consciousness to be affecting beneficially. As you move into areas of affectingness with other individuals or other focuses, even of yourself, you hold more responsibility, for you are now affecting of another focus. Therefore, you hold the responsibility of the expression of essence. This is very important! It is important that you realize that you DO hold a responsibility within consciousness. I do not express to you that all of your existence is merely an experience with no responsibility! You experience for the experience; but you also hold tremendous responsibility to be expressing from essence. (Firmly) Expression of essence is not to be concerning yourself with all other individuals and their creation of reality, and creating judgment within you as to other individuals' creations of their reality. Your responsibility is to be accepting within yourself, and of all other individuals! I may not express this strongly enough. It is very important!

This, be remembering: Each action that you create, you also are affecting within consciousness. Each action that you take, you affect all of consciousness. Therefore, you may quite understand the responsibility that you hold within these actions.

I express to you though, it is much easier than you realize to be stepping sideways within consciousness and offering yourselves much more information than you presently do. It is quite easy to be creating of these inner landscapes, and be offering yourself and others much information.

I shall open for questioning.

TOM: Elias, hypothetically, you can do the same thing. You can shrink yourself down to a little person and get in Mary's kidney and straighten it out, right?

ELIAS: This is NOT my responsibility!

TOM: Okay, it's Mary's.

ELIAS: Quite. Each individual heals themselves. I do not heal you, nor do you heal another individual. Each individual heals themselves.

TOM: Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: I shall also express that to be attempting such an action would be intrusive, for you each create what you create for your own reasoning and for your own attention. Therefore, to be moving into areas of zapping Michael into health once again would be quite intrusive. He has created what he has created for his own reasoning, and he shall uncreate it when he has viewed his inner landscape and has learned what he has chosen to learn within this experience.

DAVID: How can an individual, or say a small group of people, change or have an effect on the whole of consciousness? I mean, we might make a little dent, but really, how can we as a small group, by changing our thoughts, create such a massive change?

ELIAS: For you affect all of consciousness. Therefore, in affecting yourselves, you are also affecting of all other consciousness.

DAVID: And they of us.

ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, as you lend energy within your widening of awareness, you also create an ease for the whole to be opening their awareness. Much more occurs subjectively than you are aware of; and as it is affected subjectively, then it shall materialize objectively.

DAVID: Where do belief systems come into this? As we try to work on that theory, therefore subconsciously it filters through our belief systems, therefore our result might not be what we intended in the beginning once it manifests, if you know what I'm saying.

ELIAS: You shall be filtering through your belief systems and you may not always initially be creating what you expect -- not what you intend, but what you expect -- to be creating, although you shall be creating efficiently and purposefully; and as you become more accepting of your own belief systems and as you identify and accept the belief systems that you hold, you also shall be more effortlessly moving into the directions that you are wishing to move into. You block yourselves by holding so very tightly to your belief systems, but as you begin in changing and altering your belief systems, you offer yourselves more of an ease into the movement of accepting a belief system; and as you begin to accept your belief systems, you hold great affectingness within consciousness, objectively and subjectively.

DAVID: So I feel recently I've been doing pretty well in getting to that belief system, addressing it. Is that correct?

ELIAS: You are beginning to address to belief systems and recognize their existence. This is the beginning.

DAVID: And the next step?

CATHY: It's way fun! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Would be to be altering your perception within these belief systems.

DAVID: Okay. I'll try that.

STELLA: Elias, I have a question. How are you?

ELIAS: I am quite well, as always!

STELLA: I've got to ask you about last night. I woke up, and my body was like somebody beat me up, I mean totally beat me up. I'm so hurt. I need some sympathy, please. I'm hurting all over....

ELIAS: Shall we engage our violins now? (Laughter)

STELLA: (Dramatically) Yes! I really am hurting really bad! I think last night, something happened. I was trying to get to the pond desperately, and I think I did something to my body! (Much laughter)

ELIAS: Once again....

STELLA: I think I heard somebody calling me! I think I heard that!

ELIAS: You are correct. (Stella's dramatics are hysterical!)

STELLA: I did! But I was trying so hard to separate, and I think in this process of separating or whatever it was, I swear to God, I woke up and it was so bad, and it IS really bad. My back and everything hurts me. It's not the menopause, right? (Everybody loses it)

ELIAS: No. (Grinning)

STELLA: So it is this thing that I was trying to do so desperately?

ELIAS: Let me express to you what you have attempted to do. It is completely unnecessary for you to separate yourself from yourself.

STELLA: That's what I was trying to do, so no wonder I'm hurting!

ELIAS: You have, in actuality, created inner bruises!

STELLA: Yes ... oh, yes!

ELIAS: You do not hold an astral body in the manner that you believe that must physically separate from your physical body. You are you!

STELLA: So how the hell do I get to the pond then? With this body? Like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

STELLA: So I don't have to separate? See, I was trying to separate the whole night. Okay, so now what do I do? Oh god, I'm in a lot of pain, I swear! I really am!

ELIAS: And this has attained your attention! (Grinning)

STELLA: Oh, okay, but I did hear somebody calling me and all this stuff, and I felt really bad because I called Marta the whole time too. I called Mary, I called you, I called Letty, I called the whole world! And it's like I'm struggling so desperately! Okay, I have another thing. I saw a tablet, a white one....

LETTY: A tile.

STELLA: A tile, white, with the word Vincent in black. The following day ... do you know what I thought the following day? I'm creating money, and Vincent has it! Do you think that's true? See, I don't think I'm going to win the lottery! (Elias puts his head down and starts cracking up, and everybody loses it) Vincent has it, and he's going to offer me something really big! Big, big, big!

ELIAS: Now you need only find this individual!

STELLA: I know! Is he the one with the money? (Elias is laughing) Oh, Elias!

ELIAS: Access to.

STELLA: Access to the money! Well, I'm going to be the Presidente'!

ELIAS: This is a misinterpretation!! (Everybody loses it again)

STELLA: Okay, but I'm going to have access through Vincent. That's what the tile, the little thing is?

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: Oh! And where is he, Elias?

ELIAS: Find him!

STELLA: But actually, basically, seeing this thing that I saw, I'm getting closer!

ELIAS: Correct. Five hundred and one times that Cindel shall ask how to create!

STELLA: Yeah, but don't you think it's interesting? I mean, I came up with this! This is wonderful!

ELIAS: Very good!

STELLA: Okay, another thing, and then I'll shut up.

LETTY: No! We have a lot of questions! (Elias chuckles)

STELLA: Yeah, we have a lot of questions! I want to thank you very much for my mom. My mom felt really wonderful. She thought it was the dinner, but actually, the dinner didn't affect her. But anyway, she really felt well, and you lent a lot of energy. I heard everything you said. You talked about responsibility tonight, so I realize the responsibility in my not lending energy to any judgment that I have of her, and I think I'm learning, and I think I'm doing it. I see the importance of it.

ELIAS: Quite.

STELLA: So I appreciate it very much, Elias. Tanzania. Today Tanzania came along, and this is where Zulu lived. Where is Tanzania, and is it true that Zulu lived in Tanzania?

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: Oh! That's Africa! Why do I see myself as white? I should be black.

ELIAS: Not all individuals within....

STELLA: Tanzania are black?

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: The mother ... the mother was my mother! My mother as Zulu was my grandmother in this life!

ELIAS: Very good!

STELLA: Correct? Oh! This is really wonderful! This is really, really great! Okay, so I'm getting somewhere!

ELIAS: Be acknowledging of yourself.

STELLA: Yeah, I do. I do, more. Okay, now I'm going to shut up so I can let other people talk. Then I'll come back to you. Thank you.

ELIAS: Quite! (Grinning) We shall break, and you may continue with your questioning.

BREAK 3:47 PM. RESUME 4:04 PM. (Time was three seconds)

ELIAS: Continuing.

LETTY: I have a question that has to do with this week. There's a lot of conflict between two people that I work with, and I want to understand my connection because I keep getting pulled into their energy. One of them is my boss, and the other is a friend of mine that's been working there for a while. Her name is Gregoria; "Greg." They have a lot of conflict with each other at work, and it just got really bad, and I keep getting pulled in, and I don't understand why or what my connection is to them. Greg, I've known her for twenty-five years and my boss for three years, and we pretty much work together. We have very different personalities, but there's like a fight with energy, and I don't know what it is. The conflict is more of a non-communication, and somehow I keep getting pulled in to both of them. It's like they're both pulling me, and I'd like to know my connection with them so I'll know how to pull away from them.

ELIAS: It is unnecessary to look in the direction of connections. Focus your attention upon your own energy and recognize that individuals within conflict at times do attempt to pull energy from other individuals. In this, you may choose not to be in agreement with this; therefore also not lending energy to the continuation of conflict between the other individuals.

DAVID: I have a question regarding astrology. You've said already that it's been sort of like changed away from its original purpose, but I'd like to know what astrology's original purpose is, so that I can understand more of what I'm learning in regards to it.

ELIAS: Originally, within the creation of this dimension and this physical focus, you have created harmoniously all of the physical elements involved within this particular universe. Therefore, you also, within your particular solar system, have created a harmony within what you view to be your other orbiting planets. In this, originally you offered yourselves the creativity of less separation, and recognizing that your connection extends far beyond merely your individual forms, and that you are ultimately connected with all that you view to be nature and all that is within your known universe. Therefore, you were recognizing of your affectingness of your other planets and your system, so to speak.

The way this has been distorted is that you have turned the belief system oppositely, to be viewing that your planets and their alignment is affecting of you. In actuality, you are affecting of their movement.

DAVID: So in interpreting a birth chart, and we incorporate all the planets in our solar system, how then do I interpret ... for example, I see a configuration, say Saturn squaring Mary's natal Mercury, and in an interpretation of that, it seems quite akin to what she's presently experiencing.

ELIAS: But you view this to be that these planets are affecting of the individual. In actuality, they are mirroring the individuals.

DAVID: Okay. So am I right in assuming that when certain planets that are presently in what we call retrograde motion move forward, which would be at the end of this year, that next year we'll be seeing more of a movement in our shift, more so than we have?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAVID: Correct. So I can gauge a lot of that by my interpretation and my knowledge of astrology?

ELIAS: But recognizing that also, these actions are mirroring your own movement. This also may provide you with information that you seek so desperately of future events. You offer yourselves these future events. You hold the knowledge of what you are creating. YOU are creating these actions. Your planets are not creating these actions by their movement. You are moving them by your creations.

DAVID: Okay, so they work almost like reading a book, in a way.

ELIAS: They are reflecting you. Therefore, you may look to your outer landscape just as you look to your inner landscape, and view the motion that you yourselves are creating and that your outer landscapes are mirroring and reflecting. This be what I have expressed to you many times, that information abounds all around you. You merely do not notice or understand what you are viewing, but all of these elements are creations of yourselves. You collectively move your planet. You collectively move all of your other planets. You collectively create novas. They do not affect you. You affect them! You offer yourselves information of your creations by reading what you are creating; by looking to your mirror images, your reflections in your universe, and allowing yourself the information of what you are creating.

DAVID: So in what little I know -- it's so complex to understand astrology -- when I interpret it for my friends, it seems to be that I'm quite on the mark sometimes. Is it safe to do that?

ELIAS: Correct.

DAVID: Okay. I just want to know if I'm on the right track. Thanks.

STELLA: Elias, one thing. It pertains to what Letty said about her boss. He's my boss too. But anyway, I know his name is Constance. Is this his essence name, or when we were in a focus together?

ELIAS: Focus.

LETTY: Focus....

STELLA: Isn't that wonderful? It's like amazing, Elias! See, with all of this ... (she breaks into laughter, making everybody laugh)

CATHY: It's amazing to me, I'll tell you that!

STELLA: No, it's wonderful! It's like just things that come up ...

LETTY: Where were we?

STELLA: Oh, when he was Constance? Were we together with Constance?

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: And Bruce was there too?

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: Wow! And this was what time period?

ELIAS: Discover!

STELLA: Oh, come on!

ELIAS: You hold the ability! You BOTH hold the ability!

STELLA: There was a little bit of conflict though, right?

ELIAS: At times. (Excited chattering, with everybody cracking up, including Elias. Stella gets SO excited!)

CATHY: I have some questions for some computer people. This is from Sarah. You answered this question for her with a one word answer. I'll just repeat it. Her question to you was, "Why do I feel that my self-worth revolves around the appearance of my physical body?" And you said, "Zuli."

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: Since you said that, Vicki talked to her about counterpart action, as well as Mary, and her question is, "In the counterpart action of opposites, the Milumet and Zuli are repellent of each other. Wouldn't this mean that Milumet would be repelled against the idea of trying to gain or maintain a perfect body image?"

ELIAS: They are not repelled.

CATHY: Are you going to give her another one-word answer? (Laughing, and Elias grins)

ELIAS: They are not repellent of each other. They do move in what you objectively interpret to be almost opposite directions, but this is merely for the reasons of your belief systems. You believe that your physical forms, your bodies, and focusing upon physical form and pleasure is opposite to spirituality, which it is not. Therefore, within the counterpart action of these families, they are quite affecting of each other. This individual Shynla -- this focus is quite affected by the Zuli counterpart action, are you not?

CATHY: Yes.

ELIAS: And quite focused upon physical form and its appearance, are you not?

CATHY: Yes. (Laughter)

ELIAS: Example!

CATHY: Another question she had was ... she says she's working on interpreting symbols. "Why are rats and mice or small animals in cages a recurring dream imagery for me? What kind of internal symbol are rats to me?"

ELIAS: Quite the same -- a symbol of that which is viewed to be repulsive or not accepted, which is also the symbolism that this individual presents to themselves as their lack of acceptance of self, and feeling caged in this feeling.

CATHY: That's very interesting.

BOBBI: I had a dream where a woman was speaking to me, and she gave me a saying. The last word was T-H-U-L-E, and I more saw the word than heard it. I interpreted it as Thule, and as I woke up, mulling this over, it made so much sense, and of course it's gone, except for that last word. I had the impression it had something to do with time or an idea, and I looked it up. It is a word, I guess, in the dictionary, meaning a remote goal or ideal. I've lost the rest of the dream, though. Is that what that meant in that dream?

ELIAS: Correct.

BOBBI: I really picked up at the time that it has something to do with time.

ELIAS: This would be your symbolism to yourself presently in attempting to be connecting with the action of this shift and attempting to be connecting with your own bleed-through actions, and in this "remotely viewing" within a time framework presently, but holding imagery to yourself that the time framework may not be as removed as you had anticipated.

BOBBI: Would that have to do with -- it was probably very soon after that -- driving around with my parking brake on? I was wondering, am I slowing myself? Is that symbolism of what I am doing?

ELIAS: Correct.

BOBBI: Okay. So to remove that, I was thinking, "Okay, I'll just visualize releasing the parking brake." Would that work?

ELIAS: Very good! Yes. This is quite worth acknowledging, in creating symbolism within your dream state and objectively also offering yourself symbolism that you may correlate together. Very good! Enter this for the dream mission!

LETTY: Elias, I have one more question pertaining to the last time I was here, or wherever I saw you or heard you. You know how I have these other me's that keep wanting to visit me?

ELIAS: Correct.

LETTY: Well, they still are, and there's more. Am I a prostitute in another focus? Because somebody came and visited me with very cheap, gross perfume, and that's the first thing that came to my mind.

ELIAS: I offer you only one word: Yes, and investigate!

LETTY: Well, I was just going to ask for a little hint. I have a feeling that they come to me, but I'm not opening up and I just don't know how to ask them or how to greet them. I do want to know them. I do want to have that communication. I'm not scared when they come to me. I feel very comfortable. This last time, I actually woke up, and I know they're there. I just don't know ... nothing comes to me, not even a question, not even a hello.

ELIAS: Be merely accepting of the interaction and the intersection. It is not necessary that you be questioning, unless you are thinking of questioning!

LETTY: Right. I haven't come up with any. Okay, thanks.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

DAVID: How am I doing so far with the book? (Laughter)

ELIAS: How ARE you doing?? (Grinning)

DAVID: I'm happy with it. I want to know if you're happy with it.

ELIAS: Are YOU pleased? This be all that is mattering.

DAVID: Well, you could say, "You're doing very well," or "No," or "Don't bother," or something, you know.

ELIAS: It is your creative expression. Therefore, it matters not.

DAVID: But I need ... I'd like your view. I mean, do you like it?

ELIAS: I do not like or dislike it! (Laughter) It is your creative expression, and therefore is accepted. (Grinning)

DAVID: Yes, but it's very much a part of you.

ELIAS: It is an expression of YOU.

DAVID: Well, of course. (Elias chuckles)

BOBBI: I have another question. I've been trying to find out more about my other focus as Robert. Now, would that be a first name or a last name?

ELIAS: First name.

BOBBI: It is a first name. Okay. Well, I'll have to go back and work on that some more then. Would I find that individual in historical accounts, or not? Less probable?

ELIAS: (Accessing) Less probable, only for the reason that common individuals are not usually logged within historical accounts, but you may within records of births and deaths. It is a possibility that some records continue to exist.

BOBBI: Okay, I'll continue then.

TOM: I've got the same kind of question pertaining to records. In Gail's and my focus, with me in the Cavalry and her as a nurse, and with Jeri's and mine, there would be no records of that because I was a trapper and she was a little French Indian girl. There would be no records for that unless it would be a painting on a wall.

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

TOM: Really? Why? Really? Really? Well, you have access to it! Let me know! (Imitating Elias) "Investigate!"

ELIAS: You also hold access!

TOM: I know! I know!

LETTY: We all know!

TOM: It would be more probable for Gail's and my focus together, to have it as a birth and death as a record, versus Jeri's and mine.

ELIAS: Correct.

DAVID: Is Gail a fragment of Elias?

TOM: Yeah, good question!

ELIAS: No.

TOM: How about William? (Huh? Gail IS William, isn't she?)

ELIAS: No.

STELLA: Elias, with regard to Letty and I being from the same tree...

LETTY: Fragmentation....

STELLA: Fragmented of the same tree ... if we come from the same tree, then doesn't that mean we come from the same essence?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

STELLA: So why does she have a name and I have another name?

ELIAS: For you are individual essences.

STELLA: But we come from the same tree, huh?

ELIAS: Many seeds fall from the same tree, but they are individual trees as they grow.

STELLA: So for instance, is this like somebody having twins, but they come from different eggs?

ELIAS: You may compare in this manner, if this is easier.

STELLA: The tree somehow is kind of weird, but there are two focuses. Do I have a lot here?

ELIAS: Yes.

STELLA: Wonderful! And I'm not the original one?

ELIAS: You are the final focus.

STELLA: Oh! Isn't that great? Okay, I'm the final focus. Is this like Lady Di and stuff?

ELIAS: As you are choosing to disengage, all other focuses of your essence shall also disengage or fragment at that moment.

STELLA: Oh my god! This is exciting, Elias! So listen to me. Do I have other focuses here? (Everybody is cracking up)

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: I do? Like in this room?

ELIAS: No.

STELLA: You're not going to tell me, right?

ELIAS: No. But upon the planet, yes, you hold other focuses.

STELLA: But it's a big planet! I mean like here, like close?

ELIAS: No.

STELLA: Not close?

ELIAS: No.

STELLA: I want to get hold of the lady in Turkey, my counterpart.

ELIAS: Then do!

STELLA: Okay, do I just ... I don't have to struggle, right?

ELIAS: No.

STELLA: So I do the same thing. I just go.

ELIAS: Correct.

STELLA: Do any of them know more than me? (Laughter) Because if they know more, they might contact me!

ELIAS: No. (Chuckling)

STELLA: Okay, that's good. Thank you, Elias.

JERI: I was wondering why I'm having so much trouble making any contact with my mother since she passed away a few weeks ago. Prior to her passing away, just several days before, she came to me so clearly. She told me to be brave. I felt wonderful when I saw her, and now there's just nothing.

ELIAS: This individual has chosen to be entering directly into the area of transition, and was already within physical focus accomplishing tremendously within the area of transition while continuing to be objectively focused. Therefore, in the action of disengaging, has moved into deeper areas of Regional Area 3 and the action of transition. In this, there shall not be direct contact, so to speak, between yourself and this individual, for they are engaging all of their focuses simultaneously and hold no distinction presently of one focus as opposed to another focus holding any greater importance. Therefore, there is a discontinuation temporarily of communication.

JERI: Is there a time element involved?

ELIAS: It is merely the choice of each individual focus.

JERI: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I may express to you also though, that you may send energy messages if you are so choosing, and they shall be received.

JERI: Okay. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

TOM: You had mentioned that when people usually disconnect or they pass on in this physical focus, that if they're cremated it's usually their last focus here. Now, I wish to be cremated when I pass on or disconnect, however it happens. Is this my last focus? I feel it is.

ELIAS: Correct. But this is not necessarily correct that an individual within their final focus shall be choosing to be cremated. This is a misinterpretation. It is merely a choice of the individual focus, of which manner they choose to be rearranging the energy of the physical body consciousness in relation to their disengagement.

TOM: So cremation is usually final?

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

TOM: As for the energy, rearranging the energy in this focus, it's kind of final, isn't it?

ELIAS: ALL energy is rearranged. It is merely a question of your time thickness and what you are choosing to be engaging for time frameworks in the rearrangement of the physical body consciousness.

JERI: I have one more question. I'm not good at wording it, but is there any way I will know if my mother ... if she chose to remanifest in a physical focus, or stay as a non-physically focused essence?

ELIAS: The choice has not been accomplished to this present now, but within your continuing to widen your awareness and accessing other areas of consciousness, if you are continuing you may offer yourself this information futurely, if the choice is made to be remanifesting.

LETTY: Elias, since we're on the same topic, I asked you once -- I think the first time I met you -- about my mother, and she hadn't gone through transition yet. I haven't felt any connection lately.

ELIAS: Moving into the area of transition.

LETTY: Into non-physical?

ELIAS: Correct.

LETTY: So she still hasn't gotten to that point?

ELIAS: Not within a full engagement of the action of transition, but beginning.

DAVID: I have one more question before I leave. It's regarding understanding more of the language of my intuition when it speaks to me and how not to misinterpret it, an example being that recently, a new individual started work where I work. I immediately felt a strong connection to this individual, but over a period of time, the message I've been sending to myself regarding trying to interpret this connection ... I'm wondering what it is exactly I'm picking up. Is it wishful thinking about this individual, or am I picking up an understanding of what my intuition is truly saying to me regarding this connection?

ELIAS: You are beginning.

DAVID: So I'm not going to lead myself down another road of pain by it, is what I was saying.

ELIAS: This would be your choice, Mylo!!

DAVID: Well, I'm expressing to you all my choices! No, I do not, but if it happens, how do I say, "Oh well, I guess it was!"

ELIAS: Be mindful of what you are creating, and your motivation, and your belief systems.

DAVID: Okay. Is there a connection with this individual?

ELIAS: You are creating one.

DAVID: Oh, I'm creating one! So therefore, will it go according to what I'm hoping will be created?

ELIAS: Ah, the soothsayer again! (Laughter)

DAVID: Oh, just a little!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) This would be your choice!

DAVID: Well, I just want to know if what I'm feeling isn't again leading down a road of, "Oh, wow! This could be love!" and just let myself down again. I don't want to go there again.

ELIAS: Then do not be creating this! (Much laughter)

DAVID: Bye, bye, whoever you are!

ELIAS: Be engaging your periphery and your gray area. All elements within your physical focus are not so very black and white. They are not within the area of either/or.

DAVID: Okay, I'll work on that. Thanks.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Offer essence name to new individual, of Nymin. N-Y-M-I-N. (Pronounced Nimin)

We shall be disengaging this day, for we are not wishing to be taxing of Michael, although this is his creation, but also in recognition of physical body and the energy exchange and the affectingness of energy exchange upon physical elements. Therefore, I express to you all this day much affection, and I bid you all a very fond au revoir.

Elias departs at 4:37 PM.

Vic's note: This is the first time I've ever listened to a tape of a session that I didn't attend. What an unusual experience!