Session 752


“Agreement as a Potentiality”
“The State of Manic-Depressive”
“Intermediates are Not Reclusive”

Friday, January 5, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Jacques (Moenn).
Elias arrives at 1:12 PM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good evening!

JACQUES:  Hello?

ELIAS:  Hello!

JACQUES:  Am I with Elias?

ELIAS:  Yes!

JACQUES:  Hello, Elias.  I am Jacques.

ELIAS:  Good evening, Jacques.  And how shall you proceed this evening?

JACQUES:  I didn’t get you.

ELIAS:  How shall you proceed?

JACQUES:  Ah!  First of all, I would like to know my essence name and all the details you usually give.

ELIAS:  Very well.  Essence name, Moenn; M-O-E-N-N. (moe’en)

JACQUES:  M-O-U-N?

ELIAS:  M-O-E-N-N.

JACQUES:  Moon?

ELIAS:  Moenn.

JACQUES:  Moenn.  And the third letter?  I didn’t get it.

ELIAS:  E.

JACQUES:  U?

ELIAS:  E.

JACQUES:  Moon.  You would spell that moon?

ELIAS:  No.  E — Moenn.

JACQUES:  Moenn.

ELIAS:  Yes.

JACQUES:  Moenn.  Okay.

ELIAS:  Essence family....

JACQUES:  Family?

ELIAS:  Sumafi.

JACQUES:  Sumafi?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Alignment....

JACQUES:  Alignment? (Pause)  Which alignment?

ELIAS:  Gramada.

JACQUES:  Gramada?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Orientation....

JACQUES:  Excuse me?

ELIAS:  Orientation in this focus, common.

JACQUES:  Common?

ELIAS:  Correct.

JACQUES:  And regarding the color?

ELIAS:  What is your impression, my friend?

JACQUES:  Blue.

ELIAS:  In what hue?

JACQUES:  That’s true?

ELIAS:  In what hue?

JACQUES:  In what hue!  Violet.

ELIAS:  Correct.

JACQUES:  Okay.  Can I ask you now the same questions regarding my mate, Grazi?

ELIAS:  Very well. (Pause)  Essence name, Staassa; S-T-A-A-S-S-A. (stah’sah)  Essence family, Borledim; alignment, Sumari.

JACQUES:  What is the alignment?

ELIAS:  Sumari.  Orientation, common.

JACQUES:  Yes, and her color?

ELIAS:  Express your impression.

JACQUES:  Yellow — bright yellow.

ELIAS:  I may express to you, this signature color is defined more in a hue of an amber-orange.

JACQUES:  Amber-orange?

ELIAS:  Yes.

JACQUES:  Fine.  Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend.

JACQUES:  Now, before I proceed to other questions, I would like to ask you whether you have anything to say to me. (Pause)

ELIAS:  I shall reserve this response for later, so to speak.  You may proceed with your questions, and I shall offer to you, in final comments, instruction to you individually.

JACQUES:  Okay.  Can I ask you how many focuses I have? (Pause)

ELIAS:  In this physical dimension, total numbering of focuses, 1631.

JACQUES:  That seems to be a very big number of focuses!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  I’ve had that impression. (Short pause)

ELIAS:  Continue.

JACQUES:  Okay.  Am I with you?

ELIAS:  Yes.

JACQUES:  Elias, I would like to ask you some questions about my son.

ELIAS:  Very well.

JACQUES:  Yes?

ELIAS:  Continue.

JACQUES:  My son went this last year through a psychological crisis that we call manic-depression, and I would like to know what you have to say about it.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you....

JACQUES:  Excuse me?

ELIAS:  I am understanding that within physical focus, you view this to be an expression of illness, that which you define as mental illness.  I say to you, this is not in actuality a malfunctioning of the individual.  In actuality, individuals choose to be creating this type of expression to be experiencing your physical reality in different terms, so to speak, than the officially accepted reality.

Now; in this particular type of choice of attention, the individual focuses their attention quite strongly within the now, and chooses to be creating experiences in extremes to be offering themselves the experience in conjunction with sensation physically and intellectually, in a manner of speaking.

Now; at times, they may also incorporate an extreme in emotional communication also, for the communication which is offered from the subjective to the objective awareness through the expression of emotion becomes heightened, so to speak.  Therefore, there appears to be more of an emotional expression, or it appears to be exhibited in more of an extreme.

Now; individuals that choose this type of direction of attention in a particular focus experience conflict, for they are aligning with mass belief systems which express to them that their choices, their experience, and their behavior is abnormal or a malfunction, and the individuals that interact with the one individual creating this type of attention reinforce that association with that belief, and therefore the individual views themselves as malfunctioning and creates tremendous judgments upon themselves in relation to their manifestations and their choices, and this creates much conflict within the individual, and also, there is conflict expressed by other individuals that interact with them.

In this, I may express to you, what may be, in a manner of speaking, helpful to all of you that involve yourself in the participation of this situation or scenario would be that you allow yourselves to recognize that the individual is not creating a malfunction and is not expressing wrong behavior, so to speak.

The individual — your son — is experiencing challenge and difficulty in acceptance of self, for he is measuring his acceptance of self through the acceptance of other individuals and his perception of what other individuals’ perceptions are.  Therefore, as this comparison is created, there is a continuous expression of a lack of acceptance within self and a lack of trust of self, which creates an additional struggle, so to speak, within the individual.

Now; you may be offering an expression of acceptance, and this may be influencing and allowing for the individual to be expressing more of an acceptance of himself in response to your expression of acceptance.  Are you understanding?

JACQUES:  I am not understanding all of what you say because of poor sound quality, but I shall refer to the transcript afterwards ...

ELIAS:  Very well.

JACQUES:  ... to get more into detail.

ELIAS:  Very well.

JACQUES:  He is presently in some kind of ... he got out of this crisis, but he’s still not very well in his skin, should I say.  My question would be, is there anything I can do for him, or should I leave him to solve his problem by himself?

ELIAS:  I may express to you once again, what may be most influencing or helpful in your actions shall be that you allow yourself to not be expressing judgment and allow yourself to be expressing an acceptance to this individual, which shall be helpful in reinforcing his expression of acceptance within himself.

For this presently is the most affecting of him within self in creating much conflict, for he is not allowing himself to be accepting of himself.  He is continuously expressing judgment as to his choices and his creations of attention.

JACQUES:  Okay.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

JACQUES:  Can I have his details, his essence name and family?

ELIAS:  Very well.  Essence name, Paiz; P-A-I-Z. (paze)  Essence family, Milumet; alignment, Sumari; orientation, intermediate.

JACQUES:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

JACQUES:  It’s funny about his orientation, because he was not at all intermediate in the beginning.  He’s a very ... he was very talkative and open and looking for contact, and now he’s ... I feel that he has changed, and effectively gone to this sexual orientation.  Would that mean that there has been a change?

ELIAS:  No.  Let me express to you that individuals holding this orientation of intermediate may be quite interactive with other individuals.  This is not a quality which may be associated with this particular orientation.  I may express to you, individuals that hold the orientation of soft may be much less interactive with respect to groups of individuals or in what you term to be social situations.

The orientation of intermediate, although it expresses a perception of inward attention, these individuals are not reclusive, in your terms, and are not what you would term to be non-interactive with other individuals.  I may express to you, for the most part, individuals holding this orientation of intermediate are quite interactive with other individuals.

JACQUES:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

JACQUES:  Elias, I made a translation of one of your sessions into French, and then I was asked to write an introduction to you, and I would like to ask you whether what I wrote in this introduction meets your ... if you agree with what I’ve written.

ELIAS:  I may express to you that what you have expressed is acceptable.  This is your offering of your expression and your translation of this information and your participation with it.  Therefore, it is quite acceptable.

JACQUES:  Thank you very much.  I just wanted to make sure that I didn’t write anything wrong.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  Or if you feel anything wrong about what I’ve written.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  (Laughing)  I don’t want to get into trouble with my dear friend Elias!

ELIAS:  Ah!  For I may be expressing lightening bolts to you!  Ha ha!

JACQUES:  Now, Elias, have we had any links together within these 1631 focuses?

ELIAS:  Yes.  You have participated in many focuses with myself, so to speak, in many different types of interactions; some interactions in the expression of friendship, some in the expression of enemies, in your terms.  Ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  I had that feeling!

ELIAS:  Ha ha!  We have created great jaunts together in conflicts that are expressed quite colorfully!  Ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  Oh, did we? (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

JACQUES:  Now I would like to ask about my connection with my mate, Grazi.  Have I had many focuses together with her?

ELIAS:  Yes.  Now express to me, what is your impression?

JACQUES:  My impression is that there have been plenty.

ELIAS:  You are correct.  Ha ha ha!  And shall you challenge yourself to be investigated of these other focuses that you share?

JACQUES:  Now I would like also to ask you if I have had many shared focuses with my ex-wife.

ELIAS:  Yes, you do engage several other focuses of attention with this individual.

JACQUES:  And were there also common focuses between my ex-wife and my present mate?

ELIAS:  Yes, you do engage that activity also.

JACQUES:  And what could have been the major acts or ambience that would have reigned in these focuses?  Because I feel a lot of fear, and even anger.

ELIAS:  I may express to you, much of what you sense within these individuals is expressed in association with THIS particular focus.

But I may also express to you that as in like manner to every other individual, these two individuals also draw energy to themselves of other focuses that express similar types of experiences and emotional communications within them.  They have participated in several other focuses in which they create challenges in the expressions of relationships.

Now; let me express to you, [there is] one focus that each of these individuals draws energy to themselves from in particular.  In that focus, both of these individuals participate in a relationship of friendship which is expressed for an extensive time framework.  But these individuals also in that focus have created an event that they both participate within, and each of them expresses a very strong belief that they have been betrayed by the other.

That one particular focus is being drawn upon in energy by this focus now in their underlying recognition that they have participated in other focuses together, and that particular focus may be identified as unpleasant subsequent to the identification of the betrayal, so to speak.  Are you understanding?

JACQUES:  Yes.  Thank you very much, Elias, for this explanation.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

JACQUES:  I wish now to ask you a question that I ... maybe you have already explained yourself about it, but this word of agreement.  You mention many times agreement between essences.

ELIAS:  Correct.

JACQUES:  I would like to know what happens, if it does, when an agreement is not held to.

ELIAS:  You may change your expressions of agreement within any moment.  I may express to you, you do not create expressions in which you engage in agreement with another essence to be creating any type of expression, and therefore it becomes an absolute.  This is incorrect.  You may express an agreement with another essence to potentially be creating a particular action or event together, but this is not to say that that agreement shall become an absolute, for you always hold the freedom of choice.  Therefore, you may choose to alter the agreement or to disengage from an agreement.

Each agreement, so to speak, that may be created is in actuality chosen within the moment.  As I may express to you that essences may create an agreement per se prior to a physical manifestation, what I am expressing to you is that you may create an agreement with another essence in a potentiality.

Therefore, you create a direction in association with an agreement, but you also allow for the freedom to be altering or changing that agreement within any moment.  Therefore, it is in actuality not an expression of not meeting an agreement or not accomplishing an agreement between essences, for agreements that are chosen to be actualized within the moment are always accomplished.

There is no expression of disappointment, so to speak, that any particular agreement may not be expressed in fruition, in a manner of speaking, for there is a recognition continuously between essences that you always hold the freedom to alter or change any potential agreements that you have engaged within.  Those that are chosen beyond potentiality are actualized.

JACQUES:  Thank you very much.  Now I would like to ask you a question regarding duplicity.

ELIAS:  Very well.

JACQUES:  I understand that we live in our dimension with duplicity.  It’s part of our existence.  Isn’t that due to the fact that we have established this veil between essence and focus?  So my question would be, isn’t that something institutional?

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, you are correct.

As I have stated previously, all of your beliefs are intricate in the design or the blueprint, so to speak, of this physical dimension, and in this, duplicity also is one of the belief systems that is, in a manner of speaking, foundational to your reality, for it is a belief system, and all of your belief systems are, in a manner of speaking, foundational to your physical reality.

You do not seek to eliminate these belief systems.  As I have stated many times, in your movement within the action of this shift, what you are moving into is an expression of acceptance of these beliefs, and therefore allowing yourself an objective recognition of their automatic influence upon your perception of your reality.

And as you allow yourself an acceptance of these belief systems, even the belief system of duplicity, you also neutralize their ability to be automatically dictating to you how you shall create your reality through your perception.  This offers you more of an expansive expression of freedom and mobility in your objective expressions and creation of your reality within this physical dimension.

JACQUES:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

JACQUES:  I am going to a psychologist to check something which is related to this kind of duplicity, which is, I would say, a discrepancy between what I believe and what I feel, and I would like to know what you have to say about it.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you, my friend, what you feel and the expression of emotion within your focus is not a reaction or a response to experience.  It is an avenue of communication.

Now; that avenue of communication, that expression of communication, may not necessarily exhibit itself or express itself in (pause) what you identify as (pause) an expression of harmony, so to speak, with some of your beliefs.

Let me also express to you, your beliefs are quite intertwined with each other, and in this, there are many, many aspects of each belief system.  This be the reason that I identify these belief systems as systems, for there are many expressions of the belief.  There are many aspects of the belief, and these all create many different types of influences in relation to your perception.

Now; in this, each of the aspects of a belief system allow themselves to intertwine or trigger or couple themselves with other aspects of beliefs, and you also may incorporate conflicting beliefs simultaneously.  In these recognitions that your beliefs are not singular in their expression, you may allow yourself the realization objectively that as you express any one aspect of any belief, you also incorporate many other expressions of beliefs, and as all of these expressions are projected to your objective awareness and your perception, your perception creates a translation of all of those aspects of information which are being expressed simultaneously, and this creates a particular expression of your reality.

Now; the significant identification in what I am expressing to you is that you allow yourself to recognize that your feelings, as you designate them, or your emotional expression, is not an expression of your beliefs.  This is an avenue of communication that you offer to yourself from your subjective awareness to your objective awareness.

Therefore, there are two different actions which are occurring.  You may be creating a perception as influenced by your beliefs, but your emotions are not creating your perception.  Your emotions are communicating information to you concerning what your perception is creating.  Are you understanding?

JACQUES:  Again, I’m having this technical problem, in that I don’t understand every word that you say.  So again, I’ll have to see the transcript.  But I understand more or less, and I shall come back maybe in the future to extend this topic.

ELIAS:  Very well.  I may also express to you, my friend, I have offered information concerning this communication of emotion recently to other individuals.  Therefore, that information may be offering you more of an objective clarity also, as you allow yourself to assimilate this information through the interactions of other individuals also.

JACQUES:  Yes.  Thank you, Elias, for this comment.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

JACQUES:  I wanted to ask you, where does my interest to pictorial art and to music stem from?

ELIAS:  This is created within you in this focus as an expressed quality of aspects of this particular focus.

Now; I may express to you also that you do hold other focuses of attention which express these types of creativity, and those focuses lend energy, in a manner of speaking, to you within this now in enhancing your attention in these areas of creativity, and they reinforce your fascination.

But I may express to you also, they are not the cause, so to speak, of your fascination.  You in this focus have created a preference in these types of expressions, and therefore you draw yourself to these exhibitions of creativity.

JACQUES:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

JACQUES:  Elias, I am talking to you from my geographical position, which is Israel.  Could you tell me what led me to this place?

ELIAS:  First of all, express to me your impression.

JACQUES:  My impression is that I was drawn here to be with certain people, and this fact is not necessarily related to the geographical position.

ELIAS:  I may express to you, you are partially correct in your identification of your impression.

I may also express to you that you have chosen to be exploring this particular location in allowing yourself to objectively incorporate differences in expressions of cultures, [and] how that is expressed by groups of individuals in creating these differences in objective expressions of beliefs.

In another manner of speaking, what you are allowing yourself to be exploring is how the same belief systems may be expressed in different objective manners by groups of individuals which create an identification of culture.  Therefore, there is an exploration that you are engaging within of the creation and identification and manifestation of cultural expressions which incorporate the same belief systems, but are expressed in a manner which creates the very identification of the culture, so to speak. (Pause)

This in actuality offers you information in the manner in which individuals, yourself also, create your reality through the expressions of your belief systems, and how these belief systems may be expressed in different objective manners through different directions of perceptions.  And as you allow yourself these types of explorations and assimilations of information, you also allow yourself objective recognitions of differences of translations, and as you view the differences of translations in conjunction with your essence family expressions and qualities, this allows you to be initiating expressions that may allow for the recognition of similarities rather than differences, and this lends to the expression of acceptance.  Are you understanding?

JACQUES:  Yes.  Thank you very much, Elias, for this information.  We are now at the end of our session.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome, my friend.  I anticipate our meeting objectively once again.  I express great encouragement to you.  I also offer to you an expression of my energy.  You present yourself with interesting challenges in this particular focus.  You also allow yourself great accomplishment in the many different expressions of translation that you create.  I am greatly encouraging to you, my friend.  Accept my expression of energy, and allow yourself to experience this encompassing expression.  I shall continue to be offering this energy to you futurely, that you may continue to be encouraged.  To you in great affection, I express au revoir.

JACQUES:  I do thank you heartfully, and your energy will be very welcome.  Thank you, Elias.

Elias departs at 2:14 PM.

FOOTNOTES:

( 1)  I rarely indicate pauses between Elias’ words because they are usually short and frequent.  But this particular paragraph stood out because the pauses were longer.  It was almost like it was a struggle for Elias to find the words he wanted to use.  Just noticing!