Session 1690


“Why Did I Choose These Parents?”
“A Manifestation of High Blood Pressure”
“Helping the Newly Dis-Engaged”

Wednesday, January 6, 2005 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Dora (Arria)

(Elias’ arrival time is 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

DORA: Good morning, Dr. Elias! (Elias laughs loudly) It’s been a long time coming. I’ve been waiting for centuries now to talk to you again!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And now you are!

DORA: Yes, I am finally. If you don’t mind, I will start by asking you a couple of questions about some other people’s focuses before we get to mine, okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

DORA: Marta is asking if her focus is Joanna of Castille, who is the daughter of Isabelle and Ferdinand V of Spain.

ELIAS: Observing.

DORA: Thank you. Would you please verify for us — maybe I’m misunderstanding about your Oscar Wilde focus — was that your designated final focus, or do you still have some of your aspects manifest after that period?

ELIAS: No, that was the designated final focus.

DORA: That’s what we thought. Rob/Niven had an impression with you that would have been in 1909, so that’s not correct.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Axel/Pauline has an impression in which he is Thomas Fletcher. I would have been his mother or aunt.

ELIAS: His aunt.

DORA: Another question for Axel and myself, the Burma queen Shinsawbu during the 15th century, was that my focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: And Axel/Pauline is my son-in-law, Dhammazedi?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Thank you. You gave me the essence name Arria. This is the Roman woman who killed herself to show her husband it’s not bad to die?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Now the other question, which will be really interesting to hear. Did you ever have a focus with Seth and me? I have an impression about a focus named Malinka in the Aztec time period. I had the impression you were one of the young men, who had very interesting eyes, a medicine man.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: And Seth was the oldest person in that village?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Oh my god, thank you. I thought I was going crazy! I don’t think anyone has asked you if you shared focuses with Seth.

ELIAS: No.

DORA: Other focuses, I was Henriette, the wife of Jacques Hennessy, brother of Richard Hennessy, the founder of Hennessy Cognac.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Henry Hayes, Bank of England in 18th century, head cashier.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: (Inaudible) jeweler for Louis XIV.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: I believe I am observing focus of Bloody Mary, daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Here are my personal questions. My son feels like he is a new essence to me. His name is Gordon, which he gave himself this name. His original name is Ted. Is he a new essence to me?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: For some reason, my two grandsons feel more familiar to me than my own son.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

DORA: I am correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Now about my husband, for many, many years, based on my beliefs, I thought that we shared many, many focuses together, finally in this focus. I understand perfectly that “finally” does not apply anymore in my beliefs, but did we share lots of focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: And this is finally broken?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

DORA: Never mind; it is my belief. I was thinking that we had so many connections together and this focus is basically the closure to that connection, but it is not because we are connected, anyway.

ELIAS: Correct.

DORA: Is he still in the physical? I haven’t seen or heard from him in over 15 years.

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Now, my chosen name that I gave myself is Dora. My original name that I was supposed to have when I was born was Elizabeth. Somehow, Dora reminds me of Arria. Why did I choose that name for myself?

ELIAS: It is preferred, and you do incorporate many focuses with that physical name.

DORA: So I must investigate who this Dora is, right?

Years ago, as you can feel in my energy, I had over a year’s period of time when I was always interested in everything paranormal, studying astrology, everything that is related to beyond physicality. There was a period of time when I had a contact first on the Ouija Board, and then also when I’d be driving. I don’t know if it was my essence or another essence. It was so long ago that I can’t differentiate whether that was me or some essence beside me.

ELIAS: Another essence.

DORA: I learned so many things then that didn’t make any sense at all. It’s all in alignment with your teaching and Seth’s. When I found you I thought, “I know this. This has been taught to me; I just didn’t understand it.” Thank you very much.

I have a big question about my birth circumstances. What happened is I was adopted by a couple who were very, very unpleasant, and I had very bad experiences in my childhood. The person who adopted me said, “If you knew who you really are, you would be surprised. When I am in my deathbed, I will tell you who you really are.” I have searched and searched for my origin and information. I found a person who was supposed to be, on paper, my mother, but it would be impossible because she had a son who was six months younger than I am, so I never found out. I left home very early, and I never went back to the person who raised me. So I never, never knew what the circumstances were around my birth.

ELIAS: Are you inquiring as to why you chose those individuals?

DORA: Yes, and if you can tell me something about the origin of my birth mother. I know you can tell me her name, but what were the circumstances? What is the mystery around it? My conclusion is that I was actually not sold, but some kind of financial benefit was involved. My impression or feeling is that my original mother, at the end of the second World War, my belief is that she tried to save me, not get rid of me, but she was more comfortable to leave me somewhere, but that person passed me on someone else. Do you know what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes. I am understanding, and you are correct.

DORA: I found a paper which says my grandmother came from Austria, from Vienna. It was just a mysterious circumstance.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DORA: Why did I choose this way?

ELIAS: Choosing those individuals to be interacting with, and the experiences that you generated with those individuals, allowed you a manner of a direction in association with your intent in this focus. I am understanding that you have created some unpleasant and uncomfortable experiences with these individuals, but that also has served to offer you information concerning what your preferences are and emphasizing your own appreciation for yourself and for your children or grandchildren, and emphasizing to you your guidelines and your direction in this particular focus.

There are many individuals that generate similarities in what you term to be childhood, and in that, many times they generate a confusion of why they would choose such uncomfortable experiences, but it is all a matter of value fulfillment. As I have expressed previously many times, value is not always defined in comfort or in pleasure. Value may be expressed in conflict and in uncomfortableness, for at times, with many individuals, they pay attention to uncomfortable situations. They are viewed more extremely. Therefore, they are more emphasized, and that generates information in somewhat of a clearer manner. But it also is purposeful in helping you to define your worth, your individuality, your preferences and what you value, and generating a clarity in that and generating much more of an awareness of yourself and your direction and directing of yourself.

DORA: The interesting thing is that all my life, many, many times, it seems like (inaudible). Every experience I’m having feels like it doesn’t happen to me. It seems like it’s happening to someone else. I somehow separate myself from the experience emotionally. I feel, but not emotionally.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

DORA: Is that because I’m a political focus?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is an automatic action that you have incorporated as a type of shielding, allowing you to somewhat, not entirely, but somewhat divorce yourself from the experiences, and therefore not incorporating the leaning in the direction of continuing to hold to those experiences and allowing them to affect you in an ongoing manner in which it would block or hinder your movement. Therefore, that action was also purposeful.

DORA: It makes sense. Thank you.

Let me ask you about a recent experience. I usually take a resting time in the afternoon. Just as I lay down, all of a sudden I felt like what we might be calling the typical out of body experience, sensation, like a vibration and everything. After that, I found myself in seemingly a delivery room, where a new little girl is born. I heard her mother saying, “Her name is Emily.” Is this my new focus or a fragmentation?

ELIAS: It is an experience of a projection, and it is a new focus.

DORA: I felt like merging with this little girl, when I saw that little tiny thing. That’s when I said gosh, this is my new focus. Am I correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: That was an incredible experience!

There’s hardly any night that I don’t dream. I see so many people, individuals who I never met in this focus. It’s like driving in a car very fast. I see situations, I get a couple of words that they’re saying, and it doesn’t fit together. What am I doing in my dreams? Who are these people?

ELIAS: (Laughs) They are you. You are visiting other focuses of yourself.

DORA: It seems like it doesn’t fit together, the whole picture. I hear them talking and interacting with each other, and I have no idea who they are!

Each time that I have this nap and I’m waking up, when I’m coming back from the dreams... I don’t know how to explain it to you. It is not a fear, it is not scary, but it is something like... It’s so hard to explain, but I become so tense as soon as I wake up, and then it goes away.

ELIAS: I am understanding. It is a type of apprehension, not fear.

DORA: Yes, yes. That is correct.

ELIAS: But the apprehensiveness is being expressed for what you are doing in introducing yourself to other focuses within your dreams is that you are momentarily projecting your energy to those different focuses. Therefore, in somewhat of a capacity, you are merging with these other focuses, not entirely but somewhat.

Now; the reason that you generate this apprehension momentarily as you awaken is that there is somewhat of a slight jolt, so to speak, to your individual identity in generating this action. For it is somewhat challenging to hold to your individuality and your unique identity if you are incorporating an action of merging with other focuses even momentarily, for this is not the manner in which you are accustomed to experiencing your focus or yourself. You are not accustomed to viewing yourself as other individuals also, and in that, this is one of the reasons and purposes for these veils of separation that you generate in your reality. For it allows you not merely the purity of your own experiences, but it also, in a manner of speaking, somewhat safeguards your individual unique identity as an individual.

DORA: I am understanding. Is it because I’m in transition?

ELIAS: That generates more of an ease in creating this type of action of merging with other focuses.

DORA: For some reason, I seem to be generating a very, very high and unstable blood pressure. I cannot connect it to anything, but I am taking medication, which I’m damned if I take it and I’m damned if I don’t. I would rather not take it. Why am I creating it and what can I do about it? It’s so unstable; it goes to extremes of 220/140. It’s like when I went to the doctor finally, they said many people are dying from this, and I thought maybe yes, but not me, I’m not ready! (Elias laughs) But still it’s like an extreme form of high blood pressure, and I’m taking the medication and I’m still having the symptoms. It has nothing to do with the medication, I understand that, but I still don’t know what to do about it and why I am creating it. (Pause)

ELIAS: Do you genuinely wish me to respond?

DORA: Yes, please.

ELIAS: Very well. One reason that you are creating this is to restrict yourself, to restrict your movement, and in a manner of speaking, to intentionally limit yourself.

Now; I am understanding that these terms may initially invoke somewhat of a negative connotation, but I am not expressing them in that manner. You have generated considerable pushing of your energy throughout most of your focus. You have generated a harshness with yourself in expectations of yourself for an ongoing time framework. In the familiarity of that, to generate an equal intensity in a different direction, you have chosen to be incorporating an extreme in a physical manifestation that will allow you a viable excuse to stop pushing yourself so harshly. But you are generating an intensity of energy, and therefore, it generates this physical manifestation. For the intensity of the energy that you are generating, in a manner of speaking, matches the intensity that you were generating in the other direction.

Now; you also incorporate another reason for generating this particular type of physical manifestation, and that is your method for disengagement, if you choose. Not that you are choosing that now, but you have created this physical manifestation to be used in conjunction with that choice.

Now; let me express to you that this is NOT unusual. This is actually quite common. Individuals generate some type of physical manifestation or dis-ease that may be ongoing but also may incorporate the potential for death. They choose those types of manifestations as a viable avenue and an understandable avenue for the choice of death, which within their beliefs — and you also incorporate this belief — it is kinder to generate some type of choice of death that is understandable for family members and friends. The belief is that if you generate some type of dis-ease, there is an expectation that it shall eventually lead to death. Therefore, that is a type of preparatory expression for other individuals that you deem to be close to. Therefore, the choice of death is not as traumatic or shocking to those individuals. The belief also expresses that this shall be generating an easier transition for the other individuals, and therefore, it is a kinder method.

I may express to you that death and loss are subjects that are somewhat challenging to almost all of you in your physical focus regardless of what method is incorporated to accomplish it, but each individual generates their own underlying comfort in association with their own choice of death with regard to what method they choose.

DORA: I understand. One thing I learned from this experience, all of my life I have said I am not afraid to die. But when I was hit with this high blood pressure, I got scared! I don’t care who says anything; it’s a scary thought.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I am understanding!

DORA: I don’t understand what’s happening to me.

ELIAS: Correct. And it is an understandable fear, for it is of an unknown action and choice. Therefore, it generates apprehension and fear in response to that unknown.

DORA: Yes. Is there anything I could do to ease these symptoms, or did I make my choice?

ELIAS: I may express to you, in knowing that you are generating an intensity of energy in similarity to the intensity that you were expressing previously throughout your focus, perhaps you may allow yourself permission of your preferences, not pushing yourself and not moving in an expression of obligation, but allowing yourself to genuinely relax, and incorporate and express your own preferences.

DORA: In other words, just go with it, go with the expression; it’s either my choice or not. So I’m pushing too hard not to express myself.

ELIAS: Correct. The more that you fight with what you are creating, the more intense you generate it. But as you move into an expression of acceptance that this is your choice of your method of how you shall eventually disengage, when you choose to engage that action — but not now — and not struggling with it, it shall dissipate. It shall not disappear, but it shall dissipate.

DORA: It doesn’t make any difference if I take the medication or not?

ELIAS: It does incorporate some difference, yes. For in association with your beliefs, not incorporating the medication would facilitate hastening you to that choice that you are not engaging now. In association with your beliefs, although the medication does not alter the symptoms much, what it does in association with your beliefs is prevent you from engaging that choice.

DORA: I understand.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, it is your safety net and your safeguard to yourself.

DORA: Speaking of this, I think you know by now about this terrible event on our planet with many disengaged personalities in Asia with the tsunami. I have a question. With this mass disengagement happening, with so many individuals choosing to disengage, did they interact with each other when they actually disengaged? Were they aware of each other?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Many people believe in helping those people. I realize it’s our choice and it’s really not needed, but what I was wondering is did they know the scale, how they expressed to the world? It seems like so many people. What did they do when they disengaged?

ELIAS: Clarify that question in “what did they do?”

DORA: The question is when they go through that transition period, did they do it individually, or actually there was some kind of connection between them and they understood what they were doing, that the whole world is aware that that many people are disengaging. Did they know what they were causing?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes to both of these questions. Yes, they disengaged individually, but also yes, they were aware of each other as a collective. At the point of disengaging, they were also aware of not merely their choice to disengage but also the point of what they were expressing in generating this mass event. They are aware of their participation in this mass event, the reason for this mass event in conjunction with this shift and in association with this wave in consciousness addressing to truths, and as an expression to be generated en masse to dissipate the extreme energies of polarization and opposition. Their point was to generate dissipating that polarization and opposition and extremes, and to create a wave of energy to influence individuals within your reality to recognize their connections and to stop and move their attention to appreciation rather than opposition.

DORA: Many people, including myself, were involved consciously in what they call “retrieval experience” with disengaged individuals. My question is actually I understand that there is no need for that, but when it does happen, is it based upon both of us in agreement? I mean, can you retrieve someone who doesn’t want to be, help them to realize that they’ve disengaged?

ELIAS: No.

DORA: So it has to be some agreement.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

DORA: Because so many people, including myself, were involved with helping the disengaged individuals to understand that they disengaged.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. In this situation...

DORA: After learning about your material, there is no way I can retrieve somebody who does not want to be.

ELIAS: Correct.

DORA: It has to be based on some agreement between my energy and that energy who is disengaged. Am I correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Because so many people, especially now, they say well, I have retrieved 200 disengaged persons, and I say I understand that everything we experienced seems true to us, but that doesn’t mean it’s correct.

ELIAS: Correct.

DORA: I can see the possibility to experience 200 people, taking them to the so-called light to make them understand they disengaged, when they don’t even need it.

ELIAS: Correct.

DORA: I cannot decide for somebody else to do something that they do not want to do.

ELIAS: You may offer energy. I am aware of this action, and at times, this is actually a helpful action, if the individual is open to receiving that energy. It is not necessary for the most part with most individuals, but I am understanding of the action of those individuals within physical focus that are offering their energy.

Recognize that you are not being harmful in generating that action. You may not necessarily accomplish what you THINK you are accomplishing, but you may be expressing energy to other individuals that have disengaged, and they may receive that energy and configure that in whatever manner is most beneficial to themself.

DORA: I understand. That has cleared up so many things.

I don’t have much time left. Would you tell me my son’s and grandsons’ essence names? I can’t figure it out. His energy feels so new to me and I somehow I can’t understand it. (Elias chuckles) It’s strange to say. I do love him, but his energy is so strange to me. So unfamiliar to me.

ELIAS: For your son, essence name, Paris, P-A-R-I-S. Essence family, Vold; alignment, Sumari. Offer next individual.

DORA: I have two grandsons. One is Devon.

ELIAS: Essence name, Alicia, A-L-I-C-I-A (uh LEE see uh). And your impression as to essence families?

DORA: Devon, I think I feel Sumafi.

ELIAS: Belonging to, correct.

DORA: I don’t see them too often to know his family.

ELIAS: Alignment, Ilda.

DORA: And the little one, Sean.

ELIAS: Essence name, Dorodeen, D-O-R-O-D-E-E-N. And your impression?

DORA: I don’t have any.

ELIAS: Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Sumari.

DORA: Is my essence color (inaudible)?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Am I correct when I say I can translate that my essence tone is like a very deep baritone vibration?

ELIAS: Yes.

DORA: Now are we getting very close to the time. Do you have any advice for me? (Elias chuckles) You’ve never heard this question before, have you!

ELIAS: (Laughs) My suggestion to you is to continue to allow yourself to be playful, to continue to be expressing your appreciation, which I am aware that you do, and to allow yourself an ease with yourself and to express a gentleness with yourself. Offer that to yourself as a gift, being gentle. View yourself as a soft fawn, and express the gentleness with yourself as you would with that small fawn.

DORA: I thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I have about 200 more questions to ask you! (Elias laughs) And I will talk to you very soon.

ELIAS: Very well, my dear friend.

DORA: Thank you, and I appreciate you a lot.

ELIAS: I express my affection to you and my encouragement, also. Receive my energy to you in wondrous lovingness and my appreciation.

DORA: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: To you, my friend, au revoir.

DORA: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 54 minutes.