Thursday, January 9, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Paul (Paneus)

Elias arrives at 12:19 PM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

PAUL: Good morning, Elias!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we proceed?

PAUL: For one, it’s great to hear your voice again! Well, I’d like to ask you several questions.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: Here’s a little one. Back in November, I was just starting to get into the waking stage from my sleep and I noticed my teeth were clicking. I thought that was a fairly odd circumstance, and I wanted to ask you briefly what was happening?

ELIAS: And your impression?

PAUL: That I was in some type of alignment, maybe with my greater self or something like that. (Pause)

ELIAS: Interesting association. In actuality, this action has occurred more than once but generally within your sleep state. You merely offered yourself an opportunity, in a manner of speaking, to catch yourself in this action as you were awakening. This action is more associated with a manifestation that you generate with your jaw.

PAUL: A manifestation with my jaw?

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause)

PAUL: That’s confusing to me. You mean like maybe like grinding my teeth type of thing?

ELIAS: You generate a pressure within your jaw. In that action, as a release of energy, you express this action of what you term to be clicking your teeth in releasing energy and allowing somewhat of a movement and relaxation of the jaw.

PAUL: Oh! That’s a good thing, then.

ELIAS: In your terms! Ha ha ha!

PAUL: What is my essence color?

ELIAS: Impression?

PAUL: The only thing I can come up with would be generally my favorite color. I always say my favorite color is blue, but I would like to have also a forest-green pull. So maybe some type of forest green?

ELIAS: Slightly darker — wintergreen.

PAUL: Wintergreen, that’s my greater essence color. People have told me that there’s two, there’s a present focus color?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: What is that?

ELIAS: That is a vibration of quality associated with the energy that you express in this focus, which may be translated into a color.

PAUL: And what color is that? (Pause)

ELIAS: Sand.

PAUL: That’s unusual. So it’s different from my greater essence color.

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: Does it make sense then to align yourself with both of these colors in your environment?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon your beliefs and your preferences.

PAUL: Okay. Well, pondering away! (Elias laughs)

Elias, back in December I had a dream that started with what looked like Norman troops landing from boats in England like in 1066. This dream was fairly vivid, so I was wondering if this was another focus of mine, because I was there. And if so, who was I, when exactly was it, and what was I doing there?

ELIAS: Yes, this is another focus. You incorporate the role of a sailor. In this, your reason for being there, so to speak, is that you are a sailor and have been commissioned on this ship. You do not incorporate action, so to speak, outside of the role of being a sailor. In that focus, you incorporate trips upon many ships.

PAUL: Let me back up for a second here. I didn’t hear part of what you said. I was a sailor in that Norman division, and then you said something that I incorporate sailing on many trips?

ELIAS: Yes, in that focus.

PAUL: Oh! Okay.

ELIAS: You were commissioned as a sailor, not a soldier, as a sailor.

PAUL: I understand. So it was during that timeframe of 1066?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: I would have thought I was some type of almost like nobility or something like that, because part of my dream, before it merged into a corporate environment, had me involved with dethroning the leader and then that leader suddenly shifted to my past corporate company.

ELIAS: These are associations with your view of yourself in this focus and associating some of those actions and choices that you have generated in this focus with some of the events that occurred in that focus. But you were not necessarily involved, so to speak, in those events, for your role was to be incorporating action in relation to the maintenance and the movement of the ship itself.

PAUL: So I wasn’t really the ship’s captain, I was just one of the working hands, if you will.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Okay! Sort of makes you wonder — when I was a little kid, I’d be afraid of being in a sailboat when there was a strong wind and the boat would tip over to the side. I must not have had that sailor in me kick in at all!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Although perhaps incorporating underlying memories, so to speak, for the choice to be incorporating a focus in its entirety of sailing large ships is not without its treacheries.

PAUL: Ah, so one of my focuses may have died in a storm or shipwreck?

ELIAS: Not died, but has incorporated many experiences in treacherous weather.

PAUL: This focus or other focuses?

ELIAS: This particular focus that you incorporated in your dream.

PAUL: Just out of curiosity, can I ask this guy’s name?

ELIAS: I shall encourage you to investigate!

PAUL: Ha ha! Well, I’ve had some progress and I’ll follow up on those in a bit. (Elias laughs) How many focuses do I have in this dimension?

ELIAS: Five hundred sixty-two.

PAUL: Oh, that’s close. I was going to say 484. That was close; that’s pretty cool.

Here’s where it’s sort of obtuse. What are the benefits of taking steps to accept new beliefs, even when the old ones are still strong? The example I have is like going out and buying this one BMW car that I really desire, even though my finances aren’t as lucrative right now as I’d like them to be. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes. This type of choice is an exercise in trust — allowance of yourself to trust your choice and trust yourself in association with your choice.

PAUL: (Laughs) You know what’s so funny? My screenplay’s overall theme is learning to trust!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Not coincidentally!

PAUL: Well, actually I didn’t write it that way, but the individual from Longshot pictures has helped me to see that aspect in the screenplay. (Elias laughs) So in follow-up to that, then I could, even though the old belief is still strong, I can take that leap of faith and go out and buy the BMW?

ELIAS: Yes. You are not eliminating beliefs. This is the point in the expression of acceptance through recognizing that you continue to incorporate another belief but allowing yourself choice and not generating a judgment concerning the other belief.

In this, you are not acquiring new beliefs; you are not changing what you term to be old beliefs. You are moving your attention and allowing yourself to recognize that you do incorporate certain expressed beliefs but that you are not bound to them and that you may choose to be expressing another belief. This does not eliminate the existence of the prior belief, but in a manner of speaking renders it neutral, for you are choosing not to express it.

PAUL: Is this, in an analogy, sort of like recognizing that you have a fear of something, putting down that fear and going forward? Like as an example, I have a fear of heights and yet I still went out and did some skydiving years ago. I put down my fear and just went out and did it, even though I was deathly afraid at that time.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: So I guess I’ll just have to force my old belief...

ELIAS: NO! No.

PAUL: No?

ELIAS: It is not a matter of forcing. I may express to you, yes, there is a similar action in your example of moving past a fear, recognizing that it continues to exist, but it is not entirely the same type of action. For at times individuals do force themselves and force their energy in what they associate as beyond a fear, but this does not necessarily dissipate the fear itself for the individual is not addressing to the expression of the fear, and therefore it continues.

But in association with beliefs, in a manner of speaking, if you are incorporating an analogy it may be likened to any expression of choice. You may incorporate within your room a television and you may also incorporate a phonograph, and you may choose to be listening to the phonograph and not listening to the television. This does not mean that the television does not exist or that it is not real or that it is not continuing within your reality, but you have chosen not to be engaging that action and to be engaging a different action.

Beliefs are quite similar, for they in themselves are not good or bad. They are neutral, and it is merely a matter of choice. But as you express associations with different beliefs, you deem them to be good or bad.

PAUL: Okay — I think! (Laughs) I guess it’s a level of confidence. I understand what I need to do. There is that fear aspect that maybe I’m not as far along in acceptance of this new choice or allowance of this new choice, and that if I buy the BMW and I don’t sell my screenplay sometime soon, I may run short of funds before the year is out.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But as I have stated, this is an exercise in trust.

PAUL: I want to trust myself! (Elias laughs) I sincerely do!

Let me ask you a follow-up question. It’s sort of funny. I invest in the stock market somewhat, and I found a stock called St. Elias Mines out of Canada. (Laughs) I wanted to know, based on the creative probability or potentiality as you term it, how much will that stock increase within a couple years?

ELIAS: (Laughs) This also would be your choice, as it is dependent upon what YOU create within your reality.

PAUL: I would like for several stocks to be successful! I guess I need to find out a technique that will work so I can choose for that reality to occur. Is there one technique that I could practically use to help demonstrate an allowance of a particular choice of potentiality?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Let me express to you, my friend, first of all, you continue to incorporate in similar manner to most individuals within your reality, that there are actions and events and situations that are created independent of you within your reality (and) therefore there are other forces outside of yourself that create some of your reality. In this, you limit yourself, for you do not acknowledge your abilities or your power that you in actuality are creating every aspect of your reality, even other individuals and money.

Now; you are seeking a method to be controlling probabilities that have not been created. Probabilities are created in the moment. They do not lie before you and you choose from them as though you were choosing one card from a complete deck of playing cards. This is not the manner in which probabilities are expressed. Probabilities are created in the moment.

Now; we may express identifications of potentials in association with what you or any other individual may be expressing now. But recognize that these are merely potentials, for every moment incorporates the opportunity for change and every moment incorporates choice. Therefore, there is a considerable variable in which it is unrealistic to be speculating in relation to future.

Now; you may be paying attention to what you are incorporating, what you are doing now. As you become more clearly objectively aware of how you project energy now, you offer yourself your point of power, for you offer yourself the recognition of your ability to change choices and directions intentionally within the now. For in actuality, the future is merely an illusion, and what is generated in what you term to be the future is created now.

PAUL: Right. I had a dream — actually, it was more a nightmare style — but I was fleeing with my ex-wife and my daughter from some uncomfortable terror of some type, and as I said things, you know, watch out for this or watch out for that, they would materialize or manifest themselves left and right. Probably the message to me indirectly was that I can in fact manifest things out of thin air.

ELIAS: Correct!

PAUL: It just was set in a style of a nightmare that I didn’t like!

ELIAS: Which is quite understandable! For you automatically, easily and with little incorporation of thought do generate within any focus many manifestations or experiences that are not necessarily what you express to yourself that you want, but they are quite associated with what you concentrate upon.

PAUL: I think I remember having read some of that before. Let me ponder that one a bit. I may get back to that.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: What is the theme of my focus?

ELIAS: And I shall be encouraging you to be investigating this, as I do with all other individuals. This is the expression of your intent. In examining all of your experiences throughout the entirety of your focus and the directions that you have incorporated in association with your experiences, you may discover the general theme, which is the intent of your focus — recognizing that many of your experiences may be more refined and precise avenues of exploration within that general theme, but are all associated with that general intent.

PAUL: I have written down several points about my theme and intent, which I assume are the same thing.

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: I’ve got like three aspects. One is actually learning to trust, one is releasing a preoccupation with time or patience, and the third is a desire for discovery of certain knowledge. Those are the three that at least at this part of the investigation sort of stand out.

ELIAS: Which are all correct, as more specific movements within the general theme.

PAUL: So they are three specific movements within my theme?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: And you’re not going to tell me my theme yet?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! No, I shall allow you to investigate, and this may be interesting information and useful information for you to be discovering. This also is a manner in which individuals genuinely allow themselves to move their attention to themselves and become more familiar with themselves, and this is the reason that I am greatly encouraging of this action with individuals, to be investigating themselves.

PAUL: Based on myself, would this be better achieved via the dream state with suggestions or via the meditation state?

ELIAS: Either.

PAUL: Now I’ve got to recap some questions I had from my previous session. I woke up from one of my dreams with a name. I don’t know if I’m spelling it right or not, but the name was A-T-A-T-U-K-A, Atatuka. I believe that was the name of the shaman in my conquistador era focus, and I wanted to know if you could confirm that?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: Did I spell it correctly?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: Oh, cool! (Elias laughs) Only problem, what time period did he live? Was it like the Aztecs, the Toltecs? What type of civilization name did he live under — or was it a she?

ELIAS: Aztec, and it is a female.

PAUL: Aha! That’s what I thought, because I had one scene of a bloody knife being wiped off, and I was sure that she had some role in some type of religious ceremony and it involved a killing of victims.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Was she... Well, obviously she’s not an evil person because no one’s evil! (Elias laughs) Could you name the name of the city that she lived in?

ELIAS: Investigate!

PAUL: Okay! (Elias laughs) Did she have any feats of what we would term amazing power that she could accomplish?

ELIAS: What you might perceive to be amazing power, but no different abilities than any of you incorporate.

PAUL: Could you give me one example? (Pause)

ELIAS: The ability to levitate self and other individuals. Is this amazing? Ha ha!

PAUL: Cool! Have we been in contact with one another yet? I’m not sure, because obviously I got the name from her but I don’t know if she got anything from me.

ELIAS: Objectively, no. YOU have tapped into that focus in your exploration of self, but objectively the other focus is unaware of you.

PAUL: Let me ask another question — I had it written down here somewhere. Can I send messages to my other focuses to guide them, or vice versa, like communication back and forth?

ELIAS: You may incorporate communication, but examine your motivation, for no other focus needs your guidance.

PAUL: Oh! I would like some of their guidance.

ELIAS: Ah! In this, you do not need their guidance, either, for these are all expressions of YOU. They are all different attentions of YOU, therefore what shall you guide? You are merely generating many different experiences in many different manifestations simultaneously, associated with different attentions of you.

PAUL: Another name popped up that I wrote down from the sleep state, and that was Mithra, M-I-T-H-R-A — I think there was an “r” in there — Goguz, G-O-G-U-Z. I wasn’t sure if that was the name of the Egyptian priestess or the laborer or some other person.

ELIAS: Laborer.

PAUL: I’ve been working on trying to get the name of the Egyptian priestess and I haven’t succeeded yet. I tried repeatedly!

ELIAS: Allow yourself to relax and not be forcing your energy so very hard. This is an action that is incorporated in fun, my friend, not work.

PAUL: I give myself the suggestion at the time before sleep, expecting to have the name pop up. I’ll try to relax more. I assume you’re not going to give me the name. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You assume correctly!

PAUL: Oh darn it! Here’s one — I’d love to hear a few words of ancient Egyptian language spoken, you know, like give me some words of power or some other interesting thing to say in the actual dialect, just to see what they sound like. Is that something you could say for me?

ELIAS: And once again I shall express to you, this is an action that YOU yourself may incorporate. My friend, acknowledge your abilities. Allow yourself your freedom and your expression of these tremendous abilities that you yourself incorporate.

PAUL: Elias, let me ask you a question. I’ve been relaxing during the day and saying certain words that just sort of pop in, even though they may sound like gibberish. What am I saying? I’ve done this repeatedly in the last four or five or six days, and I feel like almost there’s a language or some words of a particular focus I am saying.

ELIAS: Or attempting to translate — you are correct. You are beginning what I am expressing to you now, allowing yourself the freedom of your expression and your own allowance. What you are expressing is not gibberish. It is not entirely accurate yet, as you are continuing to translate what you are offering to yourself through your inner communications, but in a manner of speaking you are moving close to the actual words, so to speak.

PAUL: Is it from a single focus or more than one?

ELIAS: More than one.

PAUL: I can’t tell when I’m saying them whether it’s from a given focus or others. It sort of comes out.

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; this is the point of paying attention and recognizing different energies. For you are allowing expressions of yourself from other aspects of yourself, other focuses, therefore thinning these veils of separation. But each aspect of yourself incorporates a slightly different energy expression or signature, so to speak, which is its unique expression of its identity. Each attention incorporates its own unique expression and its own unique energy. Therefore, you may notice the differences in these energies and therefore allow yourself to more accurately identify the terms or words associated with different languages.

PAUL: Let me ask you, of all those words that I’ve said — I knew they weren’t gibberish but I didn’t recognize them exactly — were any of them ancient Egyptian?

ELIAS: A few.

PAUL: Oh! Okay!

People have asked me to ask this question. What is my family orientation?

ELIAS: Meaning?

PAUL: You know, like the family and alignment, like a Zuli or Sumafi, those.

ELIAS: Ah! You are inquiring as to what is the family that you are belonging to and aligning with and what is your orientation — which is quite different from the question of what is your family orientation, for that is not an expression! (Laughs) Very well! And your impression?

PAUL: I don’t know them that well! You know, I would almost say Vold because the name sort of sounds cool.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I may express to you, belonging to Sumari; alignment, Vold; orientation, common.

PAUL: People have told me I’ve been a common. So I’m a Sumari, huh?

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; recognize that the family that you are belonging to is expressed more so in an underlying manner, although it is recognizable in the expression of its qualities. The family that you align with is the family that is more overtly expressed and recognizable within any focus.

PAUL: So my writing comes from my Sumari side and my corporate activities come from my Vold side?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

PAUL: Okay, I guess I can understand that.

Science question — if the speed of light is not a constant, then what would the formula E = MC² look like, and how would time be part of that equation?

ELIAS: The equation is relatively accurate, but in association with your reality. In association with actual light speed and time and space arrangements, there would not necessarily be a formula, for the formula would be continuously altering, in a manner of speaking, in similarity to a recently inserted tile in the City, which is continuously changing and is not constant. For your association with time in this physical dimension is a construct of objective perception, and it is configured through your perception as a sequence of moments.

Now; outside of your physical dimension it may be configured QUITE differently. But the idea of any other configuration of time is quite difficult or challenging for individuals within your physical reality, for your association with your construct of time in your reality is quite strong. Light speed...

PAUL: Right. Do I have a focus as a Russian Imperial Guard around 1908 or the turn of the century that had two toes on his left foot? (Slight pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

PAUL: I thought that was pretty odd! I figured I had to ask you that question. So, I really had two toes on my left foot and it didn’t bother me. Interesting.

I don’t know how to ask this question, so I’ll just sort of throw out some aspects. The screenplay that I’ve been working on shouldn’t be taking long anymore, simultaneous time notwithstanding. (Elias laughs) What steps or techniques could I do to get it to be accepted by a production firm so I can receive financial abundance for it? I’m trying to allow its success — here’s my patience probably kicking in — to occur. And I know it’s going to be successful. That is a choice that I believe has the highest potentiality for me.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: I’m just trying to figure out steps I can take to manifest it sooner rather than later. (Pause) Or is that sort of a naïve question?

ELIAS: Not necessarily, for it is a similar question that many individuals incorporate in relation to creating manifestations within shorter time frameworks.

In this, as you are incorporating both actions of actively participating in your actual creation of your physical manifestation but also incorporating the patience — which is not waiting, therefore it is not in opposition to the active participation, for patience is the expression of allowance — and in incorporating both movements simultaneously and continuing to trust your choices, BUT NOT FORCE ENERGY, you may generate a shorter time framework.

PAUL: I’ll try that!

I think I’ve got nine or ten minutes left, if I can get through the next few questions here. What elements do I present to myself that I need to be viewing for my own awareness and widening?

ELIAS: And what do you view?

PAUL: That was a question that I saw in a previous session and I liked it so I wrote it down for myself. (Laughs) The only thing that I can say is that I present myself with conflict with my ex-wife and daughter to learn... The only thing I can think of is acceptance and being non-judgmental, as well as patience.

ELIAS: And also the presentment of difference. And what do you present yourself in the presentment of difference?

PAUL: Duplicity or discounting of myself, maybe?

ELIAS: Partially. But what do you notice as your response to the expressions of difference? How do you interact with difference?

PAUL: With those particular individuals, if there’s a difference, frustration.

ELIAS: And what generates the expression of frustration?

PAUL: My choices are being limited. I’m being blocked.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And how are you blocking?

PAUL: I’m blocking myself.

ELIAS: Correct. How?

PAUL: By feeling other people have control over my choices.

ELIAS: And in the moment that you feel that other individuals control your choices, how do you respond?

PAUL: Anger.

ELIAS: And what motivates the anger? What are YOU doing? This is the point.

You are attempting to alter the perceptions of the other individuals, seeking their approval, justifying yourself and therefore proving your worth to other individuals, for you are not in acceptance of the differences of perceptions. And as you do not accomplish altering the other individual’s perceptions, you limit your choices and you express anger and frustration.

PAUL: Oh! I understand, I understand. (Laughs) Yeah, I understand.

ELIAS: This is the point, my friend, of paying attention to all that you manifest and all that you create, what you actually do. As you pay attention to what you are doing, you may offer yourself a clearer understanding and recognition of what is motivating what you do.

Even in situations in which you are interactive with other individuals, it is significant that you allow yourself to stop and recognize what YOU are expressing, what your automatic responses are, what your triggers are, and what is influencing these responses. For in that recognition, you offer yourself choice.

You may express to yourself: “Ah, I am attempting to prove myself to another individual to gain the other individual’s approval. But if I am choosing to be trusting of myself and accepting of myself, that approval is not necessary.” It becomes a moot point and you change your energy. You change the energy that you project outwardly. And in changing the energy that you project outwardly through altering your perception, you also change your physical reality. You change the interaction.

PAUL: I’ll have to ponder that one. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Other individuals respond to you in a projection of their energy in association with what you project outwardly, and you reflect that to yourself through the other individuals. They are reflecting to you.

PAUL: I understand.

ELIAS: Therefore, the energy that you express outwardly is reflected to you, and if you are changing the energy that you are projecting outwardly, you change the reflection.

PAUL: Okay, I think I got it. I’m going to play back this tape and then try to digest that further.

Elias, let me ask you a couple of quick ones here. Is there something more I could do or a technique to resolve my acid reflux, stomach tightening and jaw stiffness that I’m getting? I noticed it yesterday when I was out running. It acted up on the first half of the run, even though I tried — I shouldn’t say tried — I used your technique. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, by changing the direction of my focus. Is there something else I could do that would help, or just keep doing what you said the other day?

ELIAS: You may continue to incorporate the previous exercise, and you may also recognize the tension that you are incorporating.

Now; this is an acceptable example in your offering of your running, for surfacely that may appear to be an action that would generate a relaxation or pleasure, correct?

PAUL: Yes.

ELIAS: But not necessarily. For, let us move slightly previous — what were you engaging and doing prior to your choice to run?

PAUL: I was doing a few things. I’m not sure which was last in sequence. I was transcribing some notes from my previous Elias session, I was checking email, and I think that was about it.

ELIAS: And thinking, thinking, thinking!

PAUL: I may have been thinking of my daughter or my ex-wife.

ELIAS: Many different expressions. The point is you were incorporating thinking, thinking, thinking, and already beginning to incorporate a tension. Subsequently, you expressed the choice to engage running as a form of relaxation but you had already begun generating the tension. Therefore, as you began running, you also increased that tension in body consciousness.

The area of the solar plexus — the energy centers of the yellow, the green and the blue — are responding to that tension, and you concentrate your energy in this central area of your physical body. As you continue to run, you continue to move the energy of this tension into this central area to allow flexibility of your legs and your arms but holding that tension energy in the central area of your body consciousness, and you trigger your familiar manifestation.

PAUL: So I guess in summarizing this, continue to try my previous exercise and just recognize that I’m developing tension via my thinking.

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; this is significant, for you may begin noticing that you generate this manifestation many times subsequent to a very similar action. You generate this in attempting to move your attention into the now and to not be projecting your attention to the past or the future in association with thinking, for your energy and your attention are being projected pastly and futurely and you are translating that through your thought process. This is the reason that, in a manner of speaking, you become lost within your thinking to the exclusion of much else within your reality and not paying attention to the now.

PAUL: So, in summary, I should focus more of my attention on the now and not so much on the past and the future.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: I see that our time is about up. I gotta ask you two real short questions.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAUL: Was the World War I flyer, did he die during the war, and how many victories did he have as a pilot?

ELIAS: Yes, he did disengage in that time framework, and you may offer yourself that numbering through your visualizations.

PAUL: Okay, okay. Something like two jumped out at me.

ELIAS: More.

PAUL: Four! He wasn’t a very good pilot, then.

ELIAS: No, I expressed to you more, not four! Ha ha ha!

PAUL: Okay! Last one. Did you and I have any focuses together, and is there one or two you can mention that we had together?

ELIAS: Yes. I shall offer to you for your investigation one in the physical location of Denmark, time framework 1200s, early, both male individuals, comrades, and also incorporated school together.

Another focus, Indonesia, time framework sixth century. Both peasants but quite satisfied in the simplicity of the lifestyle, so to speak, although incorporating a great fear of dragons! Ha ha ha!

PAUL: Dragons? Wait, wait, wait — what do you mean, dragons? Do you mean the experience, the real-life dragons that fly and breathe flames?

ELIAS: No. But not actually encountering or viewing a physical dragon, but incorporating knowledge of creatures that exist within this physical reality as quite large reptiles. Both individuals incorporate what you may term to be quite a healthy fear of the possibility that one of these creatures perhaps might find its way, so to speak, to our island! Ha ha!

PAUL: So these are like the Komodo dragons, not the dragons of mythology?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAUL: Okay, I got ya. Elias, I know we’re past our time, so I want to express my significant gratitude for our call and your assistance.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, and I express to you my appreciation of our interaction. I shall be anticipating our next meeting.

PAUL: I surely will too!

ELIAS: And I shall be offering you encouraging and supportive energy in the interim time framework.

PAUL: Thank you, Elias! I’ll look for those little blue dots!

ELIAS: Very well! Remember to be incorporating playfulness. (Chuckles)

PAUL: Thank you, I will.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend.

PAUL: Have a great day!

ELIAS: In great affection to you, au revoir.

PAUL: Thank you, Elias. Bye.

Elias departs at 1:33 PM.

(1) This tile is described in 1/6/03.

(2) Refer to 11/17/02.

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