Monday, April 5, 2004 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Letty (Castille)
(Elias’ arrival time is 18 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
LETTY: Good morning, Elias! (Elias chuckles) Good to talk to you again.
ELIAS: And you also!
LETTY: Actually, I felt like I’ve been talking to you all morning. (Elias laughs) I received the tape from our last session. There was a mix-up with my session from being on Saturday to today, and I understand why. I needed to listen to that tape, because it moves me another step to where I want your advice and help again.
Up until this morning I was still feeling kind of lost: what I want to do, where my direction is, am I still paying attention to Cindel and Marta and the influence of other people on what I should do, especially when they all say, “Oh, you’re still not working.” There’s still a little fear in that I wasn’t actually relaxing, although I want your validation that I am moving more, in the sense that my physical manifestation has subsided somewhat, not completely. It’s still there reminding me that I’m not completely letting my energy flow and being flexible within myself.
ELIAS: Yes.
LETTY: I obviously need more encouraging words from you. I try to encourage myself, too, with all my accomplishments and remembering. I do find those moments wonderful and relaxing, and then all of a sudden the doubt creeps back in.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
LETTY: Is that my big dog?
ELIAS: Yes.
LETTY: I did forget that life is a game. I find moments of having fun, but then I get too serious. It’s something that I feel, as a good Sumafi, I need to practice more. (Elias laughs)
I wanted to ask you, first of all — which is also Marta’s question — he came back to me this week and he wants to continue but with a different twist in helping my brother and his company. Now, I personally don’t see that as what we’re really going for or our ultimate money-generating job. Yet at the same time, I feel that we think we’re helping him in a sense, but we’re also distracting ourselves. Sometimes I know I take responsibility for him, and then I allow myself to say that I just want to lend him energy.
I guess his question, which wasn’t very direct, was what do you think about it? (Elias chuckles) I do know, and you reminded me, that that’s not really where we’re going, but why does it keep coming back? In other words, is this part of our pushing our working?
ELIAS: Partially.
Now; in this time framework since our previous conversation, what have you been noticing in association with what you are doing? What information are you offering to yourself, and what are you noticing in association with what you are doing?
LETTY: One of the things is I am noticing more of myself, where I want to go, where I want to move to, and still the fact that I’m allowing myself to enjoy more of my time right now that I have created in not to say “not doing anything,” but not necessarily in a structured job or company. I’m trying to think of my dreams, Elias, because I keep having dreams that I’m still pushing myself as to what I should be doing versus what I am doing.
ELIAS: Correct, but what I am inquiring of is, more specifically, what are you noticing in association with what you are doing in conjunction with Marta and with the business? What are you actually engaging? What are you actually doing?
LETTY: Using it as an excuse, kind of like taking responsibility.
ELIAS: I am understanding, but this is not responding to my question. I am expressing a question of what you are actually physically engaging. What actual physical action are you incorporating in association with the business?
LETTY: Elias, I’m really stumped.
ELIAS: How are you incorporating helpfulness if you are not incorporating any actual action? You must be engaging some action.
LETTY: No, I’m not.
ELIAS: If you are not incorporating any action, how are you interactive and how are you engaging this expression of helpfulness?
LETTY: I really haven’t been doing anything with regard to that. I’ve kind of let it alone. That’s actually what I’m doing, not being involved in the helpfulness. I am not calling him up, giving him advice, and telling him what to do.
ELIAS: Very well. In this, what are your communications to yourself?
LETTY: That’s what I want to be doing, nothing.
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; remember my suggestion in our previous conversation. I expressed to you to be paying attention to your communication of imagination and to be listening to the information that you offer to yourself. What information have you offered to yourself?
LETTY: I offered to myself that... I don’t know, Elias. I’m so lost.
ELIAS: Now; let me express another question. You do incorporate interaction with Marta and you do incorporate some interaction with Cindel, and regardless of whether you are offering advice to your brother, you are also interactive at times with him. Correct?
LETTY: Yes, I am.
ELIAS: Now; in those interactions, what are you presenting to yourself in what they express to you?
LETTY: That within energy I don’t think we genuinely want to deal with that. I continue to see my brother sabotage himself over and over, and so therefore he genuinely doesn’t want it, so why should we get involved with it. Then I pay attention to Marta, who convinces me because somewhere I do... It’s a way of supporting ourselves, but we’re not being genuine to ourselves.
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; this is significant. You notice in your assessment that this action of sabotage continues to be expressed repeatedly, correct?
LETTY: Yes.
ELIAS: Now; you are also aware of the type of energy that is being projected outwardly by this individual. What information are you offering to yourself?
LETTY: That he really genuinely doesn’t want our help.
ELIAS: And what information are you expressing to yourself in relation to you?
LETTY: That it’s something that will keep me busy, but that’s not necessarily what I want, either. I’m not being honest with myself in answering my brother and Marta and saying yes, I will commit to get involved with you and him in the business. So I’m putting myself out there instead of paying attention to myself. In other words, my distraction is way off in the sense that I’m not distracting myself to relax myself to see where I want to go.
ELIAS: Yes. But even more specifically, I may express to you what you are generating is imagery, and the imagery that you are presenting to yourself is an offering of information. The information that you are offering to yourself is a physical example of an individual pushing their energy in a physical manner that you may view, to the extent against their preferences and what that individual genuinely wants, which creates the sabotage.
This is the significant information that I was expressing to you, to pay attention to what is being expressed in association with this business. There is information in what is occurring. You each do not want to generate work but you do want to generate income, and you want to be paying attention to yourselves and not pushing your energy. You set before yourselves a physical example of an individual pushing his energy to an extent which generates repeated actions of sabotage. This is not what you want to create, and this is the reason that you are presenting this to yourself, to offer yourself an actual example of not paying attention to your own preferences and what you may potentially create in generating that type of expression. Do you want to be creating your own sabotage of yourself? I dare say not. (Pause)
LETTY: Cindel and I in our energies are very compatible, and on the same line that we even dreamed of being back at work at our old jobs. I think what we’re trying to say, at least what I think right now at this moment, I really understand that I’m trying to say that it’s not the jobs, not going back to that company or that particular situation, but the same feeling I had. That’s what I used to acknowledge myself, my accomplishments of the creativity of the position I had, how I enjoyed it and the freedom that I had given myself.
ELIAS: Yes, this is the point and this is what I have been expressing to you, to be incorporating the awareness of what you generated within that time framework and within that environment, and what allowances and freedoms you allowed yourselves, and what ease you allowed yourselves to express, and the significance of how much less work and effort you were incorporating within that time framework, for you were NOT pushing your energy. You were more listening to your own preferences, paying attention to your own direction and generating more of an ease.
The reason that you are incorporating this conflict in this scenario with this other individual, this subject of this business and whether you should be involving yourself with it or not, is that you are projecting so much of your attention to the individual and what he creates and the business itself that you are not paying attention to your own preferences and allowing yourselves to listen to your own communications.
Have you offered yourself a noticing of or an identification of any of your communications of imagination in this time framework since our previous conversation?
LETTY: No.
ELIAS: Precisely.
LETTY: I camouflage it by thinking that I am. For example, as you were talking, Marcos’ question was he would like to have my brother close his company and start another one but within the same type, and I think we’re camouflaging our own communication of imagination by focusing on that. I’m trying to change from something that we think we know and allowing ourselves something that obviously objectively we’re not looking at.
ELIAS: Correct, and not genuinely allowing yourselves to express your preferences and pooling with each other in association with sharing with each other your individual preferences, thusly allowing yourselves to incorporate that communication of imagination to express your preferences in a cooperative endeavor.
LETTY: Let me ask you, we thought maybe we’re not paying attention to the whole of our imagination, so we picked up the first thing that came to our mind. Somewhere down the line, the three of us saw ourselves working together with these other people on the spa. I personally did not let go of it to some degree, and I know my fear kept me from confronting these other people that we were involved with working together. Somewhere we cut that cooperation with them, and I know we chose, obviously, not to have them, because these other three people decided they didn’t want to work with us. Obviously, it had to be a joint effort that we put the energy in also.
ELIAS: Correct, but this is yet again another example of not trusting yourselves, not listening to your preferences, not listening to your communications, and focusing your attention upon doubt and justifying that by expressing to yourselves that incorporating an interaction such as that or a direction such as that would involve too much money, too much work, too much interaction in manners that you view as undesirable. In actuality, there has been expressed a significant potential for all of you to be expressing your individual preferences and generating an ease.
Now; let me express to you, as I have with Cindel also: that is not your only avenue. It has been a presentment of one avenue that you have cooperatively generated with each other in presentment to yourselves to offer yourselves some type of allowance of your communication of imagination, moving into a very different type of expression that was not necessarily expected originally.
Now; you are correct, you have moved in a different expression of energy in association with fear and with doubt, continuing to push your energy and not allowing yourselves to open further to that communication of imagination, and moving into the familiar once again with some business that is established but is not functioning well for it is being sabotaged.
But this also moves in conjunction with that imagery that you have been offering to yourself. What was my question to you? Do you want to be generating a similar action in sabotaging yourself? No, you do not. Are you? Yes.
LETTY: I kind of had the feeling already about the spa issue. Somewhere I knew that maybe it wasn’t going to work with them, or maybe my own fear was alarming me to that. But I presented myself with another individual that has the potential to help us with that imagination. Cindel and I presented ourselves with this individual that has a tremendous imagination of possibilities — maybe not necessarily going in with her, but helping, allowing us to use our own.
ELIAS: Which is a significant presentment.
Now; I may incorporate a similar direction of questioning with you as I incorporated with Cindel. What do YOU want to do? What are your preferences? Or in a much more simple vernacular, what do you like?
LETTY: I like to have fun, and within that I want ease and comfort. I thought I didn’t like structure, but I do like structure and within that structure I like freedom.
ELIAS: I am understanding. But what specifically do you like to do, in your terms?
LETTY: I like to boss people. (Elias chuckles) I like to be in charge. That’s what I like to do. In thinking about my previous job, what I really enjoyed was the interaction with people, which is part of my intent, and using their individuality along with mine to create ease and diversion and money and effortlessness.
ELIAS: And what type of productivity? What type of manifestations do you like to produce in association with what you have identified thus far?
LETTY: I know it’s in me, Elias, I really, really do, because I’ve known since I left this job that I already had something, a direction where to go. That’s where I’m sabotaging myself.
ELIAS: I agree. Perhaps somewhat of an easier question: what do you perceive in your assessment is an action that Marta likes to do?
LETTY: Travel.
ELIAS: Yes, I am aware. And what other physical actions does Marta like to incorporate? What does he like to produce?
LETTY: Negotiations. I’ve always seen him that he would be an excellent consultant.
This is something that hit me this morning, too. Let me see if I’m on the right track to what you’re asking me. I’m thinking of the three of us, including myself. What I like to do is being able to meet people and being able to help. I don’t mean help as in taking responsibility, but helping them in an effortless way to better themselves, what they would think is bettering themselves. Then I also look at the travel. One of the jobs that I always thought I wanted was some kind of consulting company where I could meet different people and do different things, that would give me the liberty and the freedom to do it when I want to do it. If I pay attention to what I’m doing right now, that’s what I’m doing. I do allow myself the freedom to do certain things that I really enjoy at moments, before going into my sabotaging with the belief systems that I have to do what I have to do.
ELIAS: Correct. I am aware.
LETTY: To answer Marta’s question, to me, as a consultant, besides the travel and as an Ilda, I see him also in communication with people at a different level than me and a different level than Cindel, but we’re still doing the same thing.
ELIAS: I am understanding. But in that, it is important that you allow yourselves to examine your individual contributions. You want to be incorporating some type of direction together in cooperation with each other. But what is significant is to examine what qualities, what abilities, what talents, so to speak, each of you uniquely contribute and how those different qualities that you each uniquely possess may move in cooperation and harmony with each other to generate a type of business that you want to be incorporating.
LETTY: Let me ask you, I think we’re sort of on the right track, but again we camouflage where we want to be because we’re not using that imagination. When you say that, I’m very clear. Marta likes management, the top level, overseeing a general business or an idea; I like the administration, within a freedom but within a structure; and Cindel, the human resources part, the people and being able to integrate with each other into all of us working with the same plans but yet at the same time different.
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; that is an accurate assessment of the expressions of each of you and your qualities that you each contribute to the formation and the following-through of the basis of a business.
The one element that is missing, so to speak, is the incorporation of the imagination and expressing, each of you, much too rigidly, continuing to move in the idea or the association of what is familiar to you with regard to other businesses that are already established and how they incorporate those talents that you possess, but merely in the type of formation of these establishments that are already expressed, which generates a rigidness within each of you of what you may potentially create.
You may be incorporating all of those qualities that each of you possess and be generating that cooperatively in creative manners, not necessarily in manners that you are familiar with in what already exists in structures. What you have incorporated previously is an example to yourselves of working within an establishment that creates what? It manages money, correct?
LETTY: Yes.
ELIAS: That is the output of the business, and there is a cooperative interaction of individuals expressing different qualities and different talents that allow that business to generate its output. You want to be creating the cooperation and the allowance of the talents and the qualities of the individuals to be expressing your preferences and generating a business. And what shall its output be?
THAT is the question that shall be answered with that communication of imagination. You are not limited to the ideas of establishments or structures that are already in place with other businesses. You may incorporate those basic elements of each of you that you are aware of (and) that shall create the foundation of your business. And what shall your business produce?
LETTY: I think somewhere, deep inside, we already have it; we’re just not allowing ourselves because we’re not paying attention to our imaginations.
ELIAS: I am in agreement.
LETTY: I know that! Oh, Elias, I just want to open my head and see in there.
ELIAS: This is the reason that it is important for you to be exploring your preferences and sharing with each other. Generate a game with each other. Create a game that is fun and playful and perhaps even silly.
LETTY: I can do that very easily.
ELIAS: In this game, each of you share with each other what possibilities, even if you believe that they may be impossible, that you could generate as an output of any type of a business, regardless of how silly it may seem to you in the moment. This is a method in which you may allow yourselves to open to your imagination.
LETTY: The word “holistic” comes to my mind.
ELIAS: “Holistic” — interesting. And what would you create holistically?
LETTY: A place where people can come to get away from their daily life or their daily thoughts of work and find themselves, to relax, to get to know themselves, which is something that I know the three of us are genuinely wanting. We all want to go into ourselves and practice.
ELIAS: May I offer you a clue?
LETTY: Yes, you may!
ELIAS: Let me express to you that there are many different types of directions that you may move within in association with what you are expressing now. I may express to you that generally speaking, within your society and your physical areas that you incorporate, there are few, if any, of these types of businesses, so to speak, that engage the public upon your day of Sunday — which is directly associated with religious beliefs, that business generally is not conducted upon the day of Sunday and that it is a day to be incorporating worship or involvement with religious expressions.
Generally speaking, even businesses which you presented to yourself previously, such as the spa, do not operate upon that day. But there is no hindrance with the cooperation of yourselves that would prevent your incorporation of those types of expressions upon that day.
This is merely one clue of differences that you are not allowing yourselves to view. You are not allowing yourselves to incorporate the big picture that shall encourage you each and shall contribute to your motivation through your communications of imagination.
LETTY: So we actually have given ourselves little hints but we haven’t been open.
ELIAS: Now; in this time framework, I encourage you to be incorporating that game in sharing with each other and not to be withholding or restricting yourselves, even if your assessment of what you share with each other is ridiculous. Allow yourselves to incorporate that sharing regardless, for in that sharing you shall begin to allow yourselves to open to listening to your imaginations. And I am encouraging of you to be interactive with this other individual in an encouragement to be listening to your imagination.
LETTY: She definitely had a wonderful imagination. Wow, Elias. (Elias chuckles) I wish you were right here to give you that big hug!
ELIAS: (Laughs) You may express this in energy, and I assure you, I shall receive it!
LETTY: Thank you. (Elias laughs) I’ve wanted to ask you this since the last time. I have this fascination with witches, the programs on television about witches and the theme of Harry Potter, because they’re all magical.
ELIAS: Correct.
LETTY: So that magic has been telling me that I’m not listening, that that’s what I enjoy.
ELIAS: And to discover your own magic and how creative you may be in the incorporation of whatever you create. Remember that magical element and be aware of the strength of that energy and the strength of its draw to a tremendous population of individuals.
LETTY: And there’s no coincidence that I’m attracted to this program about three witches and they talk about the power of three.
ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckles)
LETTY: Oh, Elias. Wow. That answers even the questions I may have tomorrow! (Elias laughs) That is so wonderful.
I’m going to ask you really quickly — I have no idea where my time is because I didn’t pay attention to when we started talking. My friend Rosario wanted to ask about her connection with her boss. I don’t know if it’s as much as a soul mate, but other than obviously having other focuses, is there anything special other than the familiarity with his energy?
ELIAS: There is also a counterpart action which exists between both of them, but they do incorporate considerable other focuses of intimacy with each other. That does generate a tremendous familiarity between individuals and is not to be discounted. For, recognize also that those essences that choose to be generating many focuses together and expressing many relationships together in intimacy with each other, those essences are strongly interconnected, not merely within this physical dimension but within others and in other areas of consciousness.
LETTY: I’m sure she’s going to be happy about that. (Elias chuckles) Okay, Elias. I think we have a lot of fun work to do.
ELIAS: Very well! And I shall be quite encouraging of that and quite supportive! (Laughs)
LETTY: We’ll be calling you probably, definitely, at our next reunion.
ELIAS: Very well, and I shall be compliant! (Laughs) I shall be anticipating our next meeting and to be listening to your progress.
LETTY: Yes. I think we are finally on that upper step!
ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well, Castille! Offer my greetings to Marta and to Cindel. I express to you, as always, my tremendous unceasing affection and great lovingness. To you, my friend, Castille, au revoir.
LETTY: Au revoir, dear friend.
(Elias departs after 49 minutes.)
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