Thursday, February 24, 2005 (Phone/Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Caroline (Tsen)

(Elias’ arrival time is 16 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

CAROLINE: Good afternoon. This is Caroline.

ELIAS: Welcome!

CAROLINE: Thank you. So, I have so many questions. Let me start with a couple of easy questions. What is my essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Tsen, T-S-E-N (TZEN).

CAROLINE: Tsen, oh, sounds strange! (Both laugh) Sounds a little bit Chinese, something like that.

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: Next question is the essence families that I belong to.

ELIAS: And your impression is?

CAROLINE: I think it should be Sumari, or is it Sumafi? I mix them up all the time when I read it. It’s the one that the person’s being creative.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, Sumari.

CAROLINE: And the orientation? Would that be... Not common, it’s not intermediate; maybe it’s the other one.

ELIAS: Soft.

CAROLINE: I thought so, because I can be alone. It’s not so bad for me; I don’t feel conflict when I’m alone with myself.

ELIAS: Yes, and this is natural with a soft individual. As I expressed to you in explanation of orientations that soft individuals are continuously interactive, that is not necessarily to say that they are interactive with other individuals. They may be being interactive with creatures or plants or themselves.

CAROLINE: Being interactive with myself, I feel that many times.

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: It’s something a little bit strange. I’ve been talking to myself since I was a little child! (Both laugh) Next question would be of my boyfriend. Can you tell me what his orientation is? I think, because we have a lot of conflicts, I feel that he is something else. He must be common. Is that right?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: That explains a lot. What is his essence family?

ELIAS: And your impression?

CAROLINE: I should have read some more, maybe. Oh, I don’t know, I forgot the word. The people that are...

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Essence family, Sumafi.

Now; what is your impression as to what family you align with and what family he aligns with?

CAROLINE: Ones that have children — is Borledim the name?

ELIAS: Correct.

CAROLINE: With me.

ELIAS: Yes. And your friend?

CAROLINE: Maybe Borledim, too.

ELIAS: No.

CAROLINE: No? I thought we must have something in common.

ELIAS: The family that he is aligning with is Zuli, which does complement the Borledim and generates some elements of commonality.

CAROLINE: The next one, my daughter Emily, she’s eight months old. She’s so lovely! What is her essence family?

ELIAS: Essence family also Sumafi; alignment, Ilda.

CAROLINE: And her orientation?

ELIAS: Orientation, common.

CAROLINE: She’s like my friend, just a little bit more... Her essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Carolina.

CAROLINE: Oh, that’s funny! That’s funny because my real name in this life is Caroline. Does that have something to do with each other?

ELIAS: You generate a similar energy and resonate with each other quite strongly, and you also have incorporated many other focuses together.

CAROLINE: Yes, I feel very strong emotions to her. Oh, my phone is ringing. I will ignore this.

The next question, and that’s my problem. I begin with my biggest problem. For years I’m trying to create something that has to do with my musical talent, and I’m thinking I would be happy if I could do more, if I could work as a singer, being a singer in a band, making a CD and stuff like that. I feel I have the talent. Why am I not creating this as a reality? What is my problem? (Both laugh)

ELIAS: You do incorporate a talent, and I may express to you an acknowledgment that you engage that talent in lovely tones, but you generate obstacles with yourself for you restrict yourself. You acknowledge your ability, but you also compare yourself to other individuals, and in comparing yourself to other individuals or even to an ideal you, you restrict your allowance of yourself to merely express yourself freely.

In this, if you allow yourself to discontinue with this automatic action of comparing yourself, you may begin to allow yourself more of an appreciation, in genuine appreciation, of yourself and your ability — not merely your ability, but of yourself also. That shall alter the energy that you are projecting outwardly and generate much more of an attractiveness of yourself with other individuals.

CAROLINE: Some things you said I will have to translate later, but I guess I understand this comparison thing. I make these comparisons because sometimes I think I have the talent. Sometimes, when I compare myself to others, I think my talent is so low it’s not enough to make this. Is that right?

ELIAS: Yes. In this, if you genuinely allow yourself to appreciate yourself and appreciate your own expression, your own creativity and recognize that it is unique to you, it is unnecessary to be comparing yourself with other individuals or an ideal of what is acceptable and what is better, but rather to be appreciating your own expression and the uniqueness of it, and acknowledging the joy and satisfaction that you experience within yourself in the time frameworks in which you do allow yourself to be freely expressing your own creativity. If you are appreciating of you and what you do, other individuals shall reflect that to you also and shall also be appreciating you and what you do.

CAROLINE: Sometimes it’s like I can give myself these answers that you are giving to me. Can I give these answers to myself, too?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: Sometimes I fear these thoughts and these feelings. Let me read a little bit.

When I read all this, what you said on the website and the sessions, I understand that people understand the concept, and that’s how I feel, too. But they don’t know, and I don’t know, what there is to do in the everyday things, in your everyday job as mother or you’re cooking and going shopping and you’re having stress with your partner, these normal things. What can I, specifically me, do so that I can help myself?

ELIAS: In what capacity? How do you want to help yourself, and in what direction do you want...

CAROLINE: You already answered my first question with this music stuff and this creative stuff, and I thought that maybe in my everyday stuff that I can change something with my thoughts or...

ELIAS: I am understanding, and I am understanding the difference of this question in speaking of mundane activities. What I am inquiring of you is to be more specific. What types of actions do you incorporate within your day in mundane activities that you are assessing should be executed differently?

CAROLINE: This English... Can’t you speak German to me? (Both laugh) It would make it much easier.

ELIAS: Let me express to you in simpler terms. What...

CAROLINE: I’ll put it this way. When I am in my everyday stress, sometimes I feel depressed and feel like my value fulfillment doesn’t come true. Because I get up, I’m still tired, and I feel like I don’t sleep enough, which is not true. Let me see if I find the right words. I have to cook and I have to go shopping and I do all these things, and I wish I could go and sit down and paint something, or I wish I could now be alone for myself for a while and sing — things that I like to do but I can’t, because I have a little child, who I love so much, and I have a partner who, I think, is taking much time from me with conflicts and everything like that. The question is what can I do in my everyday job — it is a job for me — that I can enjoy more of my creativity?

ELIAS: Very well, I am understanding. In this, it is a matter of balance, my friend, and allowing yourself to incorporate time in which you are paying attention to you. You are generating extremes. You are projecting your attention to your partner and your child, and you are not allowing yourself time frameworks in which you are paying attention to you. This is a balance.

In this, as you view your child, for example, you incorporate genuine affection with this child and a genuine appreciation of her. Do you not?

CAROLINE: A genuine... That means I have a problem with her?

ELIAS: You appreciate her. Notice that appreciation that you express with her, and allow yourself that gentleness and that appreciation of you. View yourself in similar manner to how you view her, which may allow you to relax and allow yourself more of your own freedom. You are not taking away from your partner or your daughter by giving...

CAROLINE: Can you hold on a second?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: (Brief conversation in the background) Okay, sorry.

ELIAS: No need for apology.

You are not taking away from your partner or your daughter by giving your attention to you.

CAROLINE: Do you mean I can have both at the same time?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: Attention to myself and taking time for them?

ELIAS: Yes, and you are not reducing or taking away from them or taking away your attention from them by paying attention to you. You are not giving less to them by paying attention to you. Actually, you may be more attentive to them and more interactive with them in an easier manner if you are paying attention to you. For the more that you appreciate you, the more you can appreciate them and the less conflict you shall create.

CAROLINE: Does that mean I’m creating this conflict with my friend because I don’t accept myself enough?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: What is it that I don’t accept within myself? Because I thought about that, what could it be.

ELIAS: It is not a matter of one specific element; it is more that you are not expressing valuing yourself. Therefore, you project that type of energy in which you do not value yourself, and therefore, you reflect that to yourself with other individuals.

You do not view yourself or you do not offer yourself the courtesy of viewing yourself as a person. You are viewing yourself almost as a machine, that you merely function for the purpose of other individuals. You function to satisfy what you perceive to be the needs and the wants of other individuals and do not afford yourself that same courtesy.

In this, once again I suggest to you that you express with yourself the same gentleness that you express with your daughter. You are equally worthy of that gentleness as is she.

CAROLINE: I have to think about what you say later on. It will keep me thinking for the next weeks and months and the rest of my life! (Both laugh)

I’ve written down some things. Let me see what was important too. I wanted to know if I have counterparts right now, and how many in this time.

ELIAS: You have countless counterparts.

CAROLINE: Countless?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: Are there some that I know personally?

ELIAS: Yes.

CAROLINE: Can you tell me who?

ELIAS: I may express to you, in this now, you engage a counterpart action with both your partner and your daughter. You also engage counterpart action with some of the individuals that you view as friends.

CAROLINE: You mean older friends. I moved away from a house where I used to live three years ago, and I had a few friends but very good friends, and now we all went on to our own ways. I have family now and my friend, and we don’t see each other anymore. You mean these people?

ELIAS: Yes, but there are many individuals that you engage counterpart action with, and many of them you have not met objectively and many that you shall likely not meet objectively in this focus. Counterpart action is an action that may be shared with countless individuals within your same time framework and within other time frameworks.

CAROLINE: Maybe that’s a misunderstanding of what a counterpart is. I thought a counterpart is another focus of my essence.

ELIAS: No. Counterparts are an engagement of an action in which you offer some element of experience to each other.

Now; as to focuses in this now, you incorporate five other focuses of your essence in this present time framework, and no, you do not objectively know any of these individuals.

CAROLINE: Oh, hold on for a second, please. (Brief conversation off the phone) Sorry. I’m getting interrupted right now. I have to stop, anyway. Half an hour is almost over, but I have a few other questions that would be maybe short. Let me see. This thing with my dreams... No, I don’t ask that now. It would be a long question. I think we can stop now.

I want to thank you a lot, and I’ll think about what you said. I’ll listen to it again, and maybe I will talk to you again.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating that.

CAROLINE: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall be offering my energy in encouragement and supportiveness. And remember, what is quite important in this balancing is to be playful.

CAROLINE: Thank you.

ELIAS: To you, my friend, in great affection, au revoir.

CAROLINE: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 29 minutes.

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