Friday, February 16, 2007 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Sid (Calum)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

SID: Good day, Elias!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss, my friend?

SID: Yes. Well, after some time off, on my terms, I just want to get started with the game and focus questions first.

ELIAS: Very well.

SID: I would like to offer culture, Mexican, with Milumet for the game.

ELIAS: One point.

SID: Okay. Is the celebrity personality who disengaged last week, Anna Nicole Smith, Ilda belonging with Vold alignment?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: Okay. My friend Ling Tu, who says hi also, would like to know if she’s observing essence to the actress Patricia Neal?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: And is her friend José soft orientation?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: And is he emotional focus?

ELIAS: Correct.

SID: Okay. And what is his essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name Travillia (Tra-VEAL-ee-ah) T-R-A-V-I-L-L-I-A.

SID: Oh. That’s an interesting name. Okay. My friend Claire, essence name Hilary, was wondering about the orientation of a recent contact of hers named Joe. What is it?

ELIAS: And the impression?

SID: My impression was soft, but maybe he’s common?

ELIAS: Soft.

SID: Soft. Oh, okay. Is his essence name Nathan or related to that?

ELIAS: Nate.

SID: N-A-T-E?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: Is that how you spell it?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: Okay. What is my connection to former First Lady Nancy Reagan?

ELIAS: Counterpart.

SID: Counterpart. And was her husband, the President Ronald Reagan, Zuli belonging with Ilda alignment?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: Okay. And is there a connection between the current time framework actress Jennifer Hudson and the essence Cressida?

ELIAS: Counterpart.

SID: Counterpart. Okay.

I would like to know the nature or theme of this so-called quote-unquote mass grave event that you talked about before a couple of times, which you said would be occurring or having the strong potential to occur by the middle half of this century. Is it related to time travel, for example? Or what is it possibly related to?

ELIAS: Not necessarily time travel, but it is associated with travel.

SID: Oh. So space travel, maybe?

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: Or dimensional travel?

ELIAS: There is a potential for both, but the strongest potential is what you would term to be extensive space travel.

SID: Hm. Why would it be expen—oh, extensive, you mean.

ELIAS: Yes. Yes.

SID: Oh. So then would time travel already have been objectively discovered by this time?

ELIAS: Not entirely.

SID: Oh, I see. Okay.

ELIAS: That is not to say that individuals cannot accomplish that. But en masse it would not be a development that has been created to the point in which it would be readily accepted or incorporated.

SID: Oh, I see. That’s interesting. Okay.

Moving on, Emilio has told me that you have described her focus or theme or intent as that of a flower bud that opens up and flowers, so I was wondering if you could give me a similar description or phrase that relates to my particular focus intent?

ELIAS: And what have you generated in your own creative expression as such?

SID: Ah, well, I still get my intent has to do with exploring the operations and mechanics of this dimension, but I don’t know. I wasn’t sure how to put it into something more descriptive, I guess.

ELIAS: I would express that it would be likened to the creation of an intricate mosaic that would be created with beautiful tiles that fit together in very intricate manners to create one enormous, colorful mosaic.

SID: Oh, okay. That’s very helpful, because tangentially I think that relates to how I’ve been wondering about my thought process, for example. And it’s like a mosaic.

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: With many different, seemingly unrelated, but in the end it's all interrelated, actually.

ELIAS: Correct. And the individual pieces do not necessarily appear to fit together or to be connected, but in actuality they are.

SID: Yes, yes. That’s very helpful. Thank you for that.

And I was wondering, in relation to that, what is my essence scent?

ELIAS: Ah! I would express that a scent that would be most closely associated with your essence would be honeysuckle.

SID: Honeysuckle. Okay.

And would that actually be the same for my focus individually?

ELIAS: With your focus, a scent somewhat more spicy: cinnamon.

SID: Oh. I see. Actually, that’s interesting. Can I ask you then: what about for my other focus, Thomas, from the future? Future focus Thomas? Perhaps mint or something else?

ELIAS: Ginger.

SID: Oh, really? Okay. That’s funny. Is there also such a thing as an essence flower that you would…?

ELIAS: Yes. You could associate a flower with an essence. In that, I would associate your essence with a daffodil.

SID: Oh, okay. And what about for my focus, then?

ELIAS: For your focus, a gladiola.

SID: Oh, okay. And what about for my focus Thomas?

ELIAS: Phlox.

SID: What is it?

ELIAS: Phlox.

SID: Fox?

ELIAS: PHLOX.

SID: F-L-O-C-K-S?

ELIAS: That would be a close spelling, and actually the ending of the spelling is an X.

SID: X. Oh, okay. I hadn’t heard of that flower. Okay. Well, that’ll be very interesting to investigate further.

Okay, I want to move on to a separate question, actually. And the thing is that for myself personally, I enjoy the concept of payoffs, and it enriches my understanding of my movements in many directions. Therefore, I wanted to briefly ascertain with you the payoffs that related to the various physical body imageries that we have talked about in relation to myself, and also the payoff that is related to not yet creating a huge financial windfall for myself, a lottery win for example. So what specific payoffs have there been in these two cases? Or is it possible to talk about it in a specific manner?

ELIAS: Yes. And in relation to what specific physical manifestations?

SID: I guess, for example, one would be my… the body shape, and body shape also in conjunction with hair issues. And I know that hair, for example, has to do with attractiveness, or is one of the associations, and then body shape, I guess, would be related to gender identification, for example.

ELIAS: Correct. And in this, as we have discussed previously, the payoff for the body appearance, so to speak, is a projection that allows you to present more of a female appearance, more of a gentle expression.

SID: Yes. All right.

ELIAS: Not generating a physical appearance that would suggest more harshness in strength, but more of a payoff in the appearance of a strength in a gentleness.

SID: Oh, right. That makes sense. Actually, I was thinking about that this morning, but I should have just read my own session. (Elias laughs) Okay then, what about my hair issues, for example? Scalp issues?

ELIAS: I am understanding, but the payoff in this is that it actually does offer somewhat of a counterbalance in association with the male energy and image. That in this, you project an image of gentleness, but not wanting that to be confused with female and wanting to continue to connect with the male energy of yourself, and therefore generating an expression that is more associated with the male gender.

SID: Oh, right. Yeah. That’s interesting because I’ve been thinking about this for such a long time, but I just couldn’t put it into words. This makes total sense. Right. Yeah.

But then potentially, the payoff could allow for a reversal, or not engaging these payoffs could allow for a reversal?

ELIAS: Yes, for if you are generating different associations, and if you are moving into a position of balance and recognition of that balance within yourself and generating a comfort and a satisfaction with both elements of yourself, it may not be necessary to generate an actual physical projection of these elements of yourself, but to combine them and allow for that balance, and generating that comfort of knowing these qualities that you express and that you value, and not incorporating the necessity to reinforce that through physical manifestations.

SID: Right, right. Okay. Okay then, let’s talk about the other part of the payoff though, with respect to not yet creating a lottery win, for example, or some other financial windfall.

ELIAS: The payoff with that is that it encourages you to continue exploring in different directions, and that offers you considerable information.

Now; let me also express to you, my friend, there is actually another payoff which is an underlying expression, which is a type of knowing. And in this, although individuals generally do not objectively connect to this element of themselves, as you continue to widen your awareness this may become more obvious to you.

With every direction that you engage, as you are aware, all is interconnected. Therefore, each direction you engage also incorporates branches or, in a manner of speaking, aside fingers that become greater potentials and probabilities with each main direction that you engage. But many of those fingers are what you would term to be unforeseen, but each of you incorporates an underlying inner knowing in relation to many of these types of potentials.

And in that inner knowing, it creates an encouragement for you to be engaging avenues that are the most beneficial to you, such as in the subject matter of the lottery. Hypothetically we could express that you incorporate the want to be generating winning the lottery and hypothetically (coughs)… One moment (coughs).

Continuing. Were you to actually accomplish winning the lottery and incorporating significant quantities of money in a short time framework, that could very strongly generate potentials to alter your reality in manners that are objectively unforeseen but would not necessarily be comfortable for you. For in generating that action of creating large quantities of money in a short time framework, it may influence you to generate choices that would not necessarily be comfortable for you, and could potentially generate overwhelm and actually create difficult situations or fertile ground for you to move into discounting yourself in generating choices that you may not necessarily be pleased with.

Now; this is merely an example hypothetically of what actually can be a payoff to an individual in not creating certain directions that they THINK they want to create. For you generate ideas and associations of what may possibly be if you were to incorporate certain quantities of money, and you create plans in your thought processes of what you would do with those quantities of money. But in the actual incorporation of it, you are creating different lines of probabilities and different potentials. You are altering your course, so to speak, and in that alteration there are other factors that can, in potential, very strongly come into play that you would not necessarily anticipate or expect.

And therefore, in that inner knowing, many individuals do not create that type of expression in a manner of avoiding an overwhelm or an expression of unexpected discomfort.

SID: Also then, I do realize that this is… I have had this underlying knowing. I just haven’t been able to objectively put it into words very well, but also this is partially the case. It’s not to say that I could discontinue this payoff?

ELIAS: Correct.

SID: Right.

ELIAS: I may express to you, there are individuals that may receive large quantities of money unexpectedly in an inheritance. And initially they may be quite excited that they are generating that, and subsequently other potentials begin to occur, and that can potentially create considerable difficulty for the individual.

This is not to say that this is a rule or that this would definitely occur. Of course, it may not, and the individual may generate considerable comfort in generating large sums of money.

But that was not the question. The question is what is the payoff for NOT creating that, and the payoff for not creating that is that underlying knowing of these other potentials and that it is a dramatic alteration in your course. And in dramatically altering your direction, you also can dramatically alter what you present to yourself in information. And in relation to your DESIRE – not your want – your desire is already being fulfilled in your offering yourself of many experiences and considerable information and becoming much more familiar with yourself and generating a greater understanding of yourself, which offers you greater freedom. That also could potentially change if you change your direction dramatically.

SID: But that is also to be noted, it depends upon the associations one has.

ELIAS: Quite so. You are correct.

SID: Mm-hm. Okay, well we don’t have too much more time remaining, and I definitely want to get to one more question, and that is about my friend Mark, essence name Duann [sp?], who we have discussed before. But after the last couple of months about wondering about him, I decided that I want to ask you about this, because I gain… if this is part of my value fulfillment, that I understand more, and also understanding how others are feeling, because we both know that Mark keeps complaining about his path and unlucky he is, and how all these people have spurned him and the opportunities nobody has given him. But I realize that all of these things that he complains about are just agents that continue to facilitate his choice of his story of how other people just disappoint him, and that’s the story that he keeps clinging on to. It seems to me that he says that he wants to cooperate with other people if only they cooperate with him and all that, but there must be something more, and I feel that his value fulfillment is just something that has to do with disappointment. So I was curious if you could just tell me what is the nature of that value fulfillment, such that he continues to choose on the surface what seems like lack and disappointment?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, as I have expressed previously, not all individuals generate value fulfillment in what YOU view to be positive expressions or comfort. Some individuals choose to be exploring being a victim. Some individuals choose to explore intensity. Some individuals choose to explore drama. Some individuals choose to explore discomfort.

And in that, you may view quite easily the consistency in how they generate discomfort or dissatisfaction continuously and repeatedly. In actuality, some of these types of individuals are much easier to view what their intent and their value fulfillment is. For the consistency of their expressions appears to be more obvious than other individuals, for you pay attention if you perceive that there is a wrong expression occurring. And therefore, if an individual is complaining continuously that they are continuously generating wrong experiences or being wronged by other individuals, and are continuously expressing being a victim, this is not to say that they will express that they ENJOY being a victim, but that is an element of it.

In generating being a victim and blaming, an element of that value fulfillment is to express the complaint of it, to share their disdain for their experiences, just as YOU would be motivated to share what you perceive to be GOOD experiences. It in actuality is the same but the reverse.

SID: Okay. So then in a word, if we could say in a word my value fulfillment is details, for example, then in a word is his value fulfillment expression of complaints, or something? Or…?

ELIAS: Discomfort.

SID: Hm. Plain and simple.

ELIAS: Yes.

SID: And I mean… And were things actually better for him before 1995 or whatever? I mean he said that things were great until 1995 when he had to move and his parents divorced, but a part of me really wonders if things were any better for him ever since the time of his birth.

ELIAS: Correct.

SID: Correct, you said?

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct.

SID: I mean so discomfort has always been his…?

ELIAS: He merely perceives it to be more now.

SID: Right, yeah. Okay.

ELIAS: For his—

SID: It was very great to talk to you. I really enjoyed it. Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I anticipate our next meeting. And I have enjoyed our conversation. (Laughs)

SID: Thank you.

ELIAS: I express—

SID: (Inaudible)

ELIAS: Continue.

SID: I was just wondering: any final word until the next time we meet, for me?

ELIAS: Merely an encouragement and a reminder to be present, and not to be generating an opposing energy, and your movement will be much smoother. (Chuckles)

SID: Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: I express great appreciation to you, my friend.

SID: Thank you.

ELIAS: In tremendous lovingness, au revoir.

SID: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 35 minutes)

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