Rodney’s Contribution
Topics:
Session 20170123-2
“Rodney’s Contribution”
“Rodney’s Tiger Symbol of Power”
“Photons, Action, Time, Consciousness and Perception”
“The Science Wave”
“Memory in the Objective and Subjective”
“Ground-Level Ozone and the Rain Forests”
“Earth Sounds”
“The Mass Event of the Women’s Marches”
[Note: This transcript was published shortly after Rodney’s disengagement in June 2021, hence the quote below was chosen]
“I would say to you, my friend, in all that you do, yourself, and your tremendous drive to expand and to learn and to express more and to know yourself, and every interaction that you generate with every other individual contributes much more than you credit yourself for.”
Monday, January 23, 2017 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Rodney (Zacharie)
ELIAS: Good morning!
RODNEY: Good morning to you, Elias! (Elias laughs)
(Chuckles) What was I going to say? It’s… Well, that takes me into one of the subjects I wanted to talk with you today, and that is memory. (Both laugh) My retention is second-to-second; it disappears and comes back again. And I’m not disturbed by it. I’m not disturbed by it, I just backtrack my motions and it immediately comes to me. Like I turned around in the kitchen to get something, and as soon as I was halfway turned around, I didn’t know what I was there to get. (Elias chuckles) So I just looked at the counter, and there it was, right? So it all comes back to me.
And I’m not that concerned about it. It does not have the quality of something that’s going to grow into something that is difficult to handle.
ELIAS: I agree.
RODNEY: Good. So I think, a little fun stuff. When I was 4 or 5 years old—I was reminded of this the other day, something somebody said on the Elias Forum—and I was 4 or 5 years old, and I took my dog out for a walk. And of course I always felt protected when my dog was with me. And it was kind of a lonely dirt road. Across the street was all fields. I saw a giant tiger the width of the road. It was a cloud that was hovering over the ground, and one minute it was a cloud and the next minute it was a real live tiger—moving. (Laughs) The next instant I was closing the door to the house behind me because it frightened me.
Tigers have kind of been a symbol for me, a powerful symbol at times. And I’m just wondering. Is that connected to another event in another life, another focus?
ELIAS: I would express yes, but it also is a symbol that you have generated in this focus personally as a symbol of power for YOU.
RODNEY: Okay. Even at 4 or 5 years old, huh?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Age has no bearing.
RODNEY: (Laughs) All right. All right. Okay.
Then, skipping right along and changing the subject dramatically, I heard the other day [that] physicists consider the photon a quanta of light. But I heard a physicist say the other day in a lecture that the photon as a quanta of light is a unit of action. Now, to say it’s a unit of action gets around to—awfully close—to what you’re saying about consciousness.
ELIAS: I would agree.
RODNEY: Right? And the relationship between consciousness being action, and here we have a physicist saying that a quanta of light is a quanta of action, therefore… Actually, he’s saying it’s a quanta of consciousness. And I don’t know if they are thinking along the lines that you’ve been talking. Is that possible?
ELIAS: Closer.
RODNEY: Because this is the Thunderbolts community, the people who believe the entire universe is an electrical phenomenon, and you verified that for me. Okay, a photon is a unit of action. I really don’t know what that means. (Elias laughs) But it’s interesting as hell. (Both laugh) Oh god. All right.
ELIAS: It is that an action can appear to incorporate form as a physical manifestation—that which you define as matter—in relation to time, but that the action is what creates the physical manifestation.
When you include time in relation to the action, then you have the recipe that creates physical manifestations. But what they are expressing is that this is an example of a thing being expressed from no thing.
RODNEY: Right. Yeah.
ELIAS: Which I would agree is much closer, because that is the principle of consciousness, that consciousness is not a thing but it can PRODUCE things.
RODNEY: Okay, let ask you this: If I live long enough to get into the science wave (laughs), is the science wave going to discuss anything along these lines?
ELIAS: They are moving closer and closer and closer.
RODNEY: Are YOU going to discuss this sort of thing, in your talking about the science wave?
ELIAS: Discuss what type of subject. Subjects such as photons?
RODNEY: Yeah.
ELIAS: Perhaps. It is likely. I would express that in relation to the science wave, it is perhaps likely that I will be discussing some aspects of those subjects or concepts, but I would also express that the main element in relation to the science wave is that movement in two very important directions—actually, three very important directions: one, that there are no absolutes, which is considerably difficult for science to accept. That is their basis, is that they believe that there ARE absolutes. That would be one factor.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Another factor is that consciousness exists but is not a thing—which, as we have discussed, they are moving closer to that. THAT, I would express, they are much more likely to move in the direction of and accept of these three aspects: that consciousness exists and is not a thing but is an action, that there are no absolutes, and that perception creates everything.
RODNEY: All right.
ELIAS: That that word, “everything,” is precisely what it expresses: every THING. All THINGS are manifestations, that all manifestations, all physical expression, is created by perception.
Therefore, in relation to science and the science wave, the two factors that are the most difficult for them to move into and accept are that piece of perception, that perception is a part of the equation to generate physical manifestations. Without perception, there is no inclusion of time.
RODNEY: Hm?
ELIAS: Without time, there is no inclusion of physical manifestation. Therefore, perception is a key, integral piece of what creates physical manifestations of ANY and EVERY type.
RODNEY: Hm. So perception is a function of our beingness, I’ll put it that way, that exists and is operative in all dimensions that are physical?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Is this true? Okay. Is it true in…? Well, any dimension that incorporates things would be created by perception?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay. All right.
ELIAS: Perception is the key component, because perception creates time.
RODNEY: Perception CREATES time?
ELIAS: And you cannot incorporate physical manifestation without time. Therefore, the two key components of physical manifestation are time and perception. Without those, you cannot create physical manifestation.
RODNEY: But the time… All right, that being true, but the time is itself created by perception?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay. So perception—
ELIAS: Yes. And that can be expressed differently in different dimensions. It is not an absolute. It is not configured in the same capacity in different dimensions.
RODNEY: What? Perception, or time?
ELIAS: Time.
RODNEY: Right. Okay.
ELIAS: Time can be configured differently.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Perception is an instrument of objective awareness. And without that, there is no physical manifestation.
RODNEY: Perception is a what? What was that sentence you just gave me?
ELIAS: It is, perception is a component, or a mechanism, of objective awareness.
RODNEY: Ah! It’s a mechanism of objective awareness. (Chuckles) Oh, we’re going to have fun with this. (Elias laughs) Okay. Oh boy.
ELIAS: And I would express that this is not an accident that you have chosen to leave this particular belief system to the last, because it is not only science that incorporates difficulty with that concept. The concept of perception is difficult for individuals not only in relation to science, but in relation to what you are accustomed to: how you are accustomed to thinking and how you are accustomed to defining.
This is the piece that is considerably significant about redefining terms and therefore redefining your reality. I would express that the subject of perception is also a CONSIDERABLE subject in relation to religion.
RODNEY: Oh!
ELIAS: It being very similar to science, that perception is considerably discounted. It is viewed in a very similar capacity as opinion. It is not even REMOTELY associated with opinion, other than that it is connected with objective awareness. But in this, perception is not about opinion.
RODNEY: Right. From what you’re saying… Hm.
ELIAS: I would express that opinion can INFLUENCE perception, but perception is a mechanism.
RODNEY: Okay. Right.
ELIAS: I would express, figuratively speaking, perception is similar to a machine.
RODNEY: Really!
ELIAS: Is a machine an opinion? No, it is not. An opinion is an evaluation. I would express that perception is a mechanism. It is very similar to your computers.
RODNEY: All right.
ELIAS: The mechanism that produces physical manifestations.
RODNEY: Mm-hm. So we’re talking about pretty powerful stuff.
ELIAS: I would agree. But I would express that this is a considerably challenging subject for most individuals. And, accepting that perception is this mechanism that creates physical reality generates a very important implication, and that is that there is no one official reality.
RODNEY: Ahh!
ELIAS: That every one of you, each and every single individual, is individually creating reality.
RODNEY: Okay. I got a hint of that a long time ago. Wow. Okay.
ELIAS: That is a very difficult concept for many, many, many, many individuals to consider, let alone accept. (Laughs)
RODNEY: Right. We’re going to have a lot of fun with that. (Elias laughs) So we are, for the most part, if things are going smoothly in a little old town in the mountains like I’ve got here, people are operating pretty much with the same physical reality through agreement?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: All right. So, they’re doing that through agreement.
ELIAS: For the most part, yes.
RODNEY: For the most part?
ELIAS: That does not mean that each individual is perceiving identically the same—they are not. What you see and what you interact with and what your senses tell you that you are involved with or that exists in your environment, your senses input that information to you in relation to what YOUR perception is creating. And another individual may input through their senses something similar, but it will not be identical.
RODNEY: Well, what comes to mind also is that you move to places on the globe where there has been incredible destruction of cities because of war, what does that say about the level of agreement to the people who frequented that area? What is the…? That’s pretty hairy.
ELIAS: I would express that this is another far-reaching aspect of this subject, in that you are all interconnected. I cannot emphasize that strongly enough. And that is much more inclusive than most of you realize. You are all interconnected. It does not matter whether you have ever actually physically experienced a place or a situation or an expression, or a physical manifestation in your lifetime—it matters not. You are interconnected, and therefore, you HAVE that knowledge. You HAVE that awareness.
Therefore, when you visit a physical location that you have never seen before, that perhaps you don’t incorporate any information about, and you arrive in that physical location, and it displays the scars of past experiences or of war—or, if it merely displays evidence of being worn, such as paths that have been traveled over and over and over…
RODNEY: And this is because we are connected to the individuals who live there, right?
ELIAS: Precisely.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: You are connected to EVERYTHING and EVERYONE. Therefore, all of that information is within you, because you ARE all interconnected. Therefore, your senses will input your version of all of that information, and you will project that and create that through your perception.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Does it already exist? Yes. But you have already been creating it.
Your perception is not limited to your senses. And, it is not limited to your intellect.
RODNEY: Well, what’s bouncing around in the back of my head is this thing about memory. Now, my memory holds all of the memory of Zacharie, my essence. Is this not correct? Of the focuses that have existed in this dimension?
ELIAS: Yes, it is.
RODNEY: Okay. Now, when—and I’ve asked you this question before, and I don’t know where to find it—when a person dies, what happens to the memory that’s stored in the physical body? And you told me. Would you tell me again?
ELIAS: I would express that all of that memory is known. It is all, in a manner of speaking—this is figurative—it is all assimilated into what you now identify as the subjective awareness.
Remember: That which you identify now as the subjective awareness is the instructor of the body consciousness. It is the keeper of the body consciousness. Therefore, when the body dies, when the body is no longer being used, the subjective awareness contains all of that memory, all of that knowing. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, it in actuality doesn’t change.
RODNEY: “Doesn’t change”—you lost me there.
ELIAS: The body consciousness does hold all memory. Now, what does that mean?
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: I would express to you that this is an easy expression, in relation to humans, that you can understand. But in that, what does it actually mean? What do you actually think that is occurring with the body consciousness in relation to memory?
Some individuals think that memories are actual, physical bits, in a manner of speaking, that are physically stored in physical cells.
RODNEY: Okay. Right.
ELIAS: Some individuals do not generate that much evaluation or analyzation about that statement, and therefore they merely generate an association that SOMEWHERE in your body consciousness, perhaps in the actual tissue of your muscles, are physical expressions that are stored in your body consciousness.
RODNEY: All right.
ELIAS: And the reason that it is easy for individuals to grasp the idea of memory being stored in the body consciousness is that the body responds to memory through feeling, whether it be emotional feeling or physical feeling. And in that, this is the evidence that individuals present to themselves to support that concept.
But if you ask yourself, “What does that actually mean?,” what it actually means is your subjective awareness instructs and generates the functioning of the body consciousness. Therefore your subjective awareness—or that aspect of your awareness that you think of as being your subjective awareness—holds all of that knowing, holds all of that memory. It is not a thing. Once again, it is an action.
RODNEY: Memory is not a thing?
ELIAS: Correct.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Again, it is an action. And in that, your subjective awareness is not a THING either. It is an action, just as your objective awareness is not a THING; it is an action.
In this, they are different functions of action. And in that, the function of the subjective awareness is more instructional in relation to other functions and holding knowing.
RODNEY: Holding knowing?
ELIAS: Yes. Objective awareness’s function is to produce perception.
RODNEY: Objective awareness produces perception?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay. And the subjective awareness and memory in the body consciousness, these are all not things.
ELIAS: Correct.
RODNEY: Okay. They’re all part of consciousness, in that they are functioning elements of consciousness.
ELIAS: Correct.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Correct. Actions.
RODNEY: Actions. Hm. All right. (Pause)
ELIAS: In this, the function, so to speak, of subjective awareness is to direct functions and to hold knowing. That is the function. It produces memory—or what you know as memory—from that knowing.
RODNEY: Hm.
ELIAS: And what the objective awareness’s function is, is to produce perception.
RODNEY: Okay. Fascinating. (Elias chuckles) I don’t want to turn you off. (Elias laughs) But we’re coming to an end here.
Let me ask you… There was a couple of questions I wanted to ask you. I’m going to have a hundred more after I read this transcript. (Elias laughs) Yeah.
I read something the other day about ground-level ozone. I had never heard of ground-level ozone before. Ozone is up in the sky, high up there. It protects us from radiation, the whole planet. But it also exists hugging the ground. And when it does, nothing in that area will grow. As a matter of fact, everything will die—animal, vegetable, human—because ozone is a very, very potent poison.
Now, this sounds pretty disastrous, and it’s happening in places all over the planet, where large patches of forest have died out, and the cause is ground-level ozone. How serious is this?
ELIAS: It is significant. Remember what I expressed to you in relation to everything being interconnected. That applies to your planet also, and in that, much more so than you have realized yet to this point.
I would express to you that what you don’t necessarily pay attention to or look at is the importance of your forests.
RODNEY: Ah! Yeah.
ELIAS: I would express to you, you incorporate few rain forests in your world, on your planet, and those few rain forests are responsible for almost all of your precipitation IN THE REST OF YOUR WORLD.
RODNEY: Right. I know they’re hideously important.
ELIAS: Almost ALL of your precipitation IN THE REST OF YOUR WORLD is generated by these few areas of rain forest.
RODNEY: Precipitation. Are you talking about rainfall?
ELIAS: Yes. Rain, snow, any type of precipitation: water.
RODNEY: Right. I’ve got you. Okay.
ELIAS: Your rain forests are responsible for all of that water.
RODNEY: All right.
Now; I want to move on to earth sounds.
ELIAS: Very well.
RODNEY: There are sounds that are frequently called either pings or hums in what is known as the Nunavut Territory. It’s N-U-N-A-V as in Victor–U-T, in Canada. And they’ve been going on for quite some time. They think they may be coming from under the water, and they’re saying they’re earth sounds, and they’re trying to find out. Now, we had some earth sounds here outside my window, and I’m wondering, are these what they’re talking about up there? Are they of a similar nature?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Are they?
ELIAS: Yes. And they are in almost every area of your world.
RODNEY: Oh! Okay. Is this becoming more prominent?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
RODNEY: Is there…? Hm.
ELIAS: For Earth, or your planet, is changing.
RODNEY: Yeah. You said that.
ELIAS: It is adjusting and reconfiguring itself, out of necessity.
RODNEY: All right.
ELIAS: And in that, as it changes and reconfigures itself, beneath the surface of the ground is a considerable area that it is shifting and changing. And yes, that does produce sounds.
RODNEY: Okay. Wow. So we’re going to be hearing more about this as time goes on?
ELIAS: You most likely will.
RODNEY: All right. One more topic for discussion: Two days ago, Saturday, we had 600 marches that they know about, all over the globe, of women marching. They said over a million; I don’t know whether that was this country alone or whether or not it included other countries. But it came to me—and these were fairly peaceful, all in all, and they were a protest against what our new President stands for. And my question is that we’ve talked about mass events in your talks before. This is definitely a mass event. Would you not say that?
ELIAS: I would agree.
RODNEY: Because you get this many people together, focusing in more or less the same direction, that’s a hell of a lot of energy.
ELIAS: I would agree. Now it is a matter of what you do with it.
RODNEY: Well, SOMETHING’S going to happen, I would think.
ELIAS: I would express that—
RODNEY: That energy’s got to go someplace.
ELIAS: What I would express is, the statement has been made, and now it is a matter of what you do with it.
RODNEY: Hm.
ELIAS: You cannot only generate a statement and expect change. If you genuinely want to express change, it requires action, and not only one statement.
I would agree that this was a considerably powerful statement, and it demonstrated the volume of energy and the volume of individuals that are expressing that solidarity, which is tremendous, and now it is a matter of what you do with it.
RODNEY: Okay. And that’s for all of us, right?
ELIAS: Most definitely.
RODNEY: Hm.
ELIAS: I would express that these individuals en masse, in volume, generated a powerful statement and stepped into a position to lead a direction. But are they the only individuals to be expressing that direction? No. And I would express that it is a matter of all of you expressing an evaluation of what is important to you and NOW what will you do?
RODNEY: Right. Well, I contribute pennies a day to this effort—
ELIAS: I would express you contribute much more than that. I would say to you, my friend, in all that you do, yourself, and your tremendous drive to expand and to learn and to express more and to know yourself, and every interaction that you generate with every other individual, contributes much more than you credit yourself for.
RODNEY: I’m delighted to hear that. (Elias chuckles) I’m going to keep doing it anyway, but…
ELIAS: Excellent!
RODNEY: That’s good. (Both laugh) That helps. YOU help, tremendously.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express, not everyone will be inclined to march, but that does not mean that you are not participating. It does not mean that you are not contributing.
RODNEY: Okay. Cool. Every action counts.
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: All right.
ELIAS: And every individual counts.
RODNEY: Yes! That’s the fun part of it. (Both laugh) Even the ones you don’t like. (Laughs) The bad guys.
ELIAS: Unlike your voting system (laughs), in relation to this, every individual counts. (Chuckles)
RODNEY: Right. Okay.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
I think we need to go. (Elias laughs) Hopefully I’ll be talking to you soon.
ELIAS: Very well. And perhaps I will continue to spur you in directions of being creative and inventive.
RODNEY: Well, I’m going to take a look at that math problem I’ve got. (Elias laughs) So, yeah, give me a little nudge there.
ELIAS: Excellent!
RODNEY: All right. Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my dear friend. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting. In wondrous lovingness to you, as always, and in dear friendship, au revoir.
RODNEY: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 56 minutes)
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