Unfolding Explorations
Topics:
“Unfolding Explorations”
“Physiological Conditions and Drugs as Colored Bar Codes”
“Gene Imagery”
“Accepting Pooled Energy for Healing”
“Small Ones and Food Choices”
“Learning to Receive”
Tuesday, February 16, 2021 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Sandra (Atafah)
ELIAS: Good morning!
SANDRA: Good morning, Elias. Good morning. (Laughs)
ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?
SANDRA: Well, for one thing, I wanted to do something a little creative here with you. Would it be all right if I just had gentle music playing in the background when I…?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Thank you. It was just a nice idea to be playful, and it’s not interfering or anything. Great.
Well, what shall we discuss? Well, the journey continues, Elias, and it’s fascinating and interesting and… My state of mind continues to be pretty buoyant and clear about this end result. However, I did have a couple moments where the body was really in a lot of pain and it was very challenging. I don’t have to go into all the details of it, but it was like hard for me to hold onto that optimism and knowing. And I know in the last session you said that would be a possibility, it’s likely to happen, and I remembered it. I guess the most disconcerting part is not only the collapsed veins and the pain, but in the O.R. on Friday I was not having the effects of the drug that I was expecting. I expected to be sedated heavily, and the drug had no impact. So, I wanted to talk about that in this session a little, and describe why I felt so uncomfortable, because…
Well, let me explain what happened. May I go into that now?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. The problem was locating the vein initially and then rolling in, and expecting the local anesthesia to work well but being sedated. The sedation was called fentanyl, and I asked the doctor, “When are you going to put it in the I.V.?” and he said, “We did.” “I can’t feel it,” I said, “I’m completely lucid.” And he started injecting lidocaine in the shoulder and in the area where he was going to insert a port, and then I waited a few minutes. I figured, it’ll kick in. Nothing happened. And he was like, “Do you feel it now?” and I didn’t. And I… It was very discouraging. And so, he shot in another 50 of fentanyl, and then I waited and nothing happened.
And now meanwhile this operation is about an hour and 15 minutes, and he’s pushing and pulling and tugging under the skin, inserting devices up to the jugular, and now I’ve got 100 milligrams of fentanyl and absolutely no effect. And I’m blabbing away, I’m calling you in, all the essences, because you told me, “I’ll be there with you.” I’m calling you in; I’m calling in Atafah, my little pyramid group, everybody. And it was comforting, but the body kept drawing me back into it because it was in pain. And then I had to explain to him that the lidocaine I metabolize very quickly, the two-hour lidocaine. Because of all the dental work, lidocaine generally lasts only 20 minutes. After two or three shots I’ve got to get reinjected, because that’s my system. I could feel he was like horrified that he’s got to start poking in again with all the lidocaine. And I was picking up on the energy in the O.R., and it was intense and not comfortable. And I had to keep directing him to do things, and the role reversal was very disconcerting for me. It made me frightened. And I thought oh, what if I go down the road in New York and have this very big procedure done and they have the same kind of ineptitude? And he wasn’t inept, it’s just that… So, this is the next part I wanted to talk about.
Which is the… That night, when I pulled it together more and I finished the infusion for the day, and they kept the I.V.—and they did listen and keep the I.V. line in and keep it open so they didn’t have to poke again and then find another opening—a voice came from the ceiling and said, “You had a drug inhibition. Something you’re taking is inhibiting the action of the fentanyl,” which is an opiate. So, I did the pendulum. And I wanted to ask you if there was a drug interaction problem with the corticosteroid—I think it’s methylprednisolone—and another drug I take called allopurinol. It felt like they have a primary interaction and a secondary interaction that causes some inhibition of the flow. It’s like they alter a unit in the fentanyl and it isn’t effective. Is that visualization somewhat accurate?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. All right, so there was a drug interaction. So that’s fine, then I understand, and they have a chance to explain, to alter this whole thing. I asked for a reduction in the 80 milligrams of the steroid, and they immediately brought it down, and I felt much better because I don’t get very high, like energetic, and then crash. So that’s very nice.
My question was, I could eventually see it going down to 20 milligrams, if it felt comfortable down the road in a week or two, because they cut it in half and it was just fine. Would you agree that that might be acceptable down the road?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Mm-hm? Good. And so, then I had other visualizations I just wanted to share. They were fascinating, related to the cancer I produce, the T-cells and the way the mechanism works. I would close my eyes and I could see the bar code appear, Elias, in very big blocks of strong color. Cancer appears almost completely black; it tends to be a huge rectangle of black. And then the other bar code comes in, in different colors, and there are spaces, white spaces and another line and a white space and a line, just like when you scan in the grocery store. But these bars come to me in colors, and I can see, for instance, one bar in particular; it was striking because I had black and I had a strong magenta with like purple in it. I’ve never seen a bar code – I’ve told you many years ago, I can see like energy signatures of drugs this way, but they’re always very clear—the bar is clean and clear. But this bar was tinged with purple and magenta, and then the next bar came in a kind of flesh color, like the way the oyster has like a ripple effect around the edge of its meaty body. It was all like tinged bloody-like. And then there were more bar codes of chartreuse. And I could go into more detail, but was that an accurate translation to myself in my way of what this cancerous condition looked like?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. Now, I got remedies that are coming in, too. With each time I have a drug, it has an energy signature, and I can see how the new bar code overlays the old one and there is a kind of canceling out or modification of the colors, so that this whole area is opening up to me, this ability to see the coding in my translation of what these drugs and physiological conditions look like. So, I just wanted to share that. It’s very interesting.
ELIAS: Excellent!
SANDRA: Thank you. Thank you. In addition to that, when Jerry – I haven’t looked at any literature on this material, because it’s… I don’t want to move in that direction at all and be influenced. I’m very suggestible and very influenced, and I know that’s not appropriate. So what I did, though, was I asked Jerry if he could just tell me if a DNA strand consists of like blocks of letters, which I’ve seen in the past, and they twist. I said, “Is a gene a segment of that?” and he said, “Yes, a gene is a segment of those letters in a particular order. That’s what constitutes a gene.” So what I did, Elias, is I went in and I expanded the genes, because they show you in high school biology rectangles or squares. But what I saw was so interesting. I saw like cloudlike formations. They weren’t squares. They were energy, like quanta, and they had electromagnetic fields. They almost pulsed gently. And the field energy: say there was a D, a G, an E in this sequence, the D and the G also was like a pulsing, small field of like a cloud, and it had an action. It was very particular. And then these were not spaced in a line; they were spaced in interesting spatial arrangements to each other that were very important to make that gene. Is that correct, what I was translating?
ELIAS: That is your translation.
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: Yes. I would say that it is very correct.
SANDRA: Okay. Now what these little cloudlike formations do is they communicate very well to each other, within their actions. They are instantaneously interactive through this field kind of energy. I don’t know what else to call it. And they have even more subtle interactions, but the deal is that when one of these formations goes awry, that becomes the beginning of a malformation in the body, let’s say. It becomes the beginning of a different arrangement in the way it translates information to tissues, organs, etc. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. That’s what I was shown. And then, I went farther into all of this exploration and I asked, “How did this originate?” And I went to the thymus a couple of weeks ago, and I actually saw this… This is very interesting, like two sine curves, because the translation from these cloudlike formations is they emit a kind of wave form. That’s what I could understand. It’s much more elegant and beautiful than that, but for me it was a simple wave form. And what happens is there is a timing mechanism generated by this thymus gland somehow. And the wave form and the gene, these clouds, interact in such a way that there’s something called constructive interference. They are just so perfectly aligned in opposition that there’s a destructive interference. And that one initial action, which I generate because I could see myself carrying an emotional blanket of fatigue and overwhelm and some emotional disturbances that were settling down over my whole body and causing this initial imbalance with the thymus, generation of that wave. Would you say that that was something that was going on there?
ELIAS: I would.
SANDRA: Okay. Now the next part was, I even asked a date when I generated the very first cellular, those cloudlike formations of the gene that send timing information that’s incorrect, along with the thymus’ action, and they then inform these T-cells incorrectly and they overproduce. And I saw them all clumped up like in little mounds inside my blood vessels. And that was interesting, because Jerry saw some slide show somewhere and he said, “They’re in mounds like you said, like little clumps.” I said, “Well, that’s what I saw in the bloodstream,” and so then he was really believing some of this imagery that was coming in.
But anyway, the point is that this opening is so fascinating to explore. And I actually got the date the very first incorrect cell was generated. It was about February 8, 2020. It was just so interesting. The one event started the chain reaction, and it was all caused by this very subtle emotional imbalance that I had generated throughout my body. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. Fascinating. So the point of the whole thing is that if you understand HOW something is generated, you can at some point present the way to move in another direction, down the road somewhere. But it was just very encouraging for me to understand how I did it and why I did it.
And then, I also got information about like 43% of me wanted to release myself from obligation but the other 57% really wanted to have mastership over creating reality, which was a much larger goal. So, I—
ELIAS: I understand.
SANDRA: So I got that kind of percentage there. And of course as a result of all of this movement, my entire life is like the tower in the tarot cards, completely turned upside down. All relationships have changed, all… they’ve done 180s. It’s just amazing, what’s happened. And this—
ELIAS: I would say that that is definitely a very interesting manifestation that you have created. But I would also express to you, in relation to some of your experiences in which you found yourself in the position and in the role of instructing the physician and being somewhat uncomfortable with that, and feeling somewhat unsafe—
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: Very understandable.
Now, what I would say in relation to that, another aspect of why you presented that to yourself was in order to give yourself permission and a reason to be intentionally making certain choices that the physicians wouldn’t automatically suggest or be in agreement with.
SANDRA: Ah!
ELIAS: But this is a matter of you expressing your choices in this situation. And what I would say to you is that that experience gave you a platform to work from, in a manner of speaking.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, that gave you an example that you can use when you express to a physician—and this is entirely your choice, but—
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: — when you express to a physician that you would be engaging certain procedures in which you don’t want to be awake.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: And in that, that you want an anesthesiologist.
SANDRA: Okay. And I will do that. Thank you.
ELIAS: Because in that, now you have this experience as an example for them, and you can express to them, “I don’t want to repeat that. I feel unsafe if I have to be instructing the physician. This makes me very uncomfortable, and now, from this point forward, my choice is to be in a different situation in which I can rely on the anesthesiologist, and I do not wish to be awake through certain procedures.”
SANDRA: Thank you, Elias. I shall do that. Thank you.
ELIAS: In that, then you don’t have to feel unsafe, you don’t have to be in discomfort and pain, and you don’t have to be battling, because what I would say to you also is that this is very automatic for you, is to move in directions in which you keep pushing yourself: “A few more minutes. A few more minutes. A few more minutes. A few more minutes.”
SANDRA: Mm-hm.
ELIAS: Now; no. That is entirely unnecessary.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: And what I would say to you is, that is definitely an influence of your entire life and old experiences—in your terminology, “sucking it up.”
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: And at this point, no, there is no reason for you to do that.
SANDRA: Okay. (Chuckles) Okay. I love it. (Chuckles)
ELIAS: Now is the time for you to genuinely practice being gentle.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: And in that, that includes all of their procedures, whatever they choose to be doing that you have agreed to, then you do that in the most comfortable manner for you.
SANDRA: Thank you, Elias. Thank you. Thank you. I can see all the applications where I can do that, and I’ve started in a small way.
Receivership has been really the big opening here. I have asked my friends to pull for me, and I wanted to move into that a little, if I might. I want to tell you how beautiful and interesting I’ve…I’ve got a beautiful quartz crystal from Julie, and I used it during three of the infusions. And the help from that quartz crystal that she gave me caused the actual machine to stop 15 minutes earlier. And it would shock the nurse that came in, because these are timers where the fluids are very specifically timed, and on three separate days, on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, holding the crystal caused this collapsing of time. (Elias chuckles) So I thanked Julie very much, because it was awesome. Of course, it created a little too much flow later on, and then I asked for it to slow down. It became like a gatekeeper, and it modulated the flow in. So using the quartz was very interesting.
When I meditate with the quartz in the right hand and the ruby in the left, the ruby gets much hotter. But I use it for my blood circulation and healing of the circulatory system, to increase wound healing. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: The ruby is really warm in my hand.
And I wanted to go on with Lyla. I know she recently had a session, but I want you to know that she has been doing virtual homeopathic arnica ingestion and pooling for me, and it’s so powerful that it comes right through my torso. It’s instantly effective, and I think she has a tremendous ability there. And I received it and took it in.
ELIAS: Excellent.
SANDRA: And JF and Karen, in their healing approaches – which are different from, of course, Lyla, which I can’t tell you how amazing that was, that dormant talent of hers – then JF and Karen are also pooling and lending energy and doing their specific, intentional approaches, which are very powerful. So when the three of them work, it’s like tremendously uplifting, and I feel it physiologically, right through the heart and it extends out. Would you agree with that, so I can give them their feedback about…?
ELIAS: Congratulations.
SANDRA: Thank you. I wonder—
ELIAS: I would.
SANDRA: Okay. Great. Then Karen had a biofield tuning session on Saturday, and the reason I brought the thymus up and that very strange pink energy is she went through the chakras—and I can turn my whole body red. I’m all red inside, and this red like ghost or whatever, and… But when we came to the pink center it was striated with blood, and I knew, “Oh, that’s the center where all of my challenges originated, and they extended into the other systems and the circulatory, the lymph, the spleen.” And then I even saw the pineal and hypothalamus being affected by this one particular center. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. And she was so helpful with that. I love the tremendous interaction and benefit there. And I assist, like a little helper, but also I benefit tremendously. And I wanted them to know, through this session with you, how grateful I am to them. And I receive it very gently, which was big for me to ask, yes.
ELIAS: And what I would say to you is that this is a considerable action that you have presented to yourself to be learning and practicing with.
SANDRA: Yes. Yes. Yes. And I’m doing it. I just—
ELIAS: It is something that has not been much a part of your life.
SANDRA: No. Never. I have to say. So, I’m receiving and accepting everything from hamburgers and mattresses to energy, and it feels great. Thank you.
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Thank you. (Laughs) As crazy as that sounded. (Both laugh)
I have some nice fun things to ask now: I looked at two beautiful stones, blue topaz, which I like, but then I looked at the paraiba tourmaline, and I got the feeling that it was a wonderful, transformative stone and a healing stone, and I really wanted it. Would you…? I’ve looked at that stone for four or five years and it just glows, and I want to get it for myself. And I wanted to know, did you feel that over the topaz it was a much more appropriate stone for me?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay, great. Because I just fell in love with it. When I relax I just look at the stone and take in the energy. But I think it’s time for me to just get what I want here a little bit, and put myself first, like my monthly sessions with you. I’m so happy!
ELIAS: Ah!
SANDRA: Yeah, I’m so happy about that.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
SANDRA: Yes. That was another gift to myself: me first.
ELIAS: And I would say congratulations. It is about time.
SANDRA: (Laughs) Thank you. Thank you.
Let’s see. My Viking focus I identified. He’s come in many times as Ifejca—I-F-E-C-J, wait, I-F-E-J-C-A. Would that be correct on that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. And man, is this guy so different from me and strong. He’s at a campfire with four generations of progeny, and enjoying it. He’s toward the end of his life, and his body was so strong. And when I take my pills, they cause me to vibrate in the morning, they make me shaky, and I stand and draw him into me, you know, merge with him immediately and shoot the energy into the earth, because he’s all about the power of the earth surging through him, and that gave him great power. Would you agree?
ELIAS: I would.
SANDRA: Yes. And also, he had a problem with his left eye. It sort of dangled out a little at one point, and he was cut and burnt and… He was fearless just the same. He had conditioned himself as such a brave warrior and leader that… He’s showing me how to step into that fearlessness state and plant myself into the power of the earth, which is not—
ELIAS: Congratulations.
SANDRA: Thank you.
ELIAS: I would say that that is definitely TREMENDOUSLY beneficial.
SANDRA: Yes, because it’s such a… I don’t reside in that place. I’m up on the upper end, and the lower end is so powerful and strengthening and enriching, in that sense. Great.
Now I wanted to ask: Little baby Vivi, who’s thriving – and she’s been the first miracle that gave me all this tremendous inspiration—I’m going to take a shot at this. Her essence name is C-R-I-K-A? It was very interesting essence name. Or was that a focus I got?
ELIAS: Ah, actually that is a focus.
SANDRA: Okay. A focus. Could you give—
ELIAS: But I would say that the essence name is close.
SANDRA: Oh! Okay.
ELIAS: I would say there is just a slight difference.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: Criska (KREE-skah).
SANDRA: Oh, Viska. Okay, fine. Okay, great. And she’s a—
ELIAS: C-R-I-S-K-A.
SANDRA: Oh, Riska. Okay, fine.
ELIAS: No. C-R-I—
SANDRA: Oh, C-R-I-S-K. Oh, okay. One letter is out. Okay, great.
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Okay. Is she a Borledim/Sumari? Common, Emotional?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.
SANDRA: She is a polar bear tyrant. We call her the little capo. She runs the whole house now. (Elias laughs) She’s amazing! She pushes her brothers out of the way. She’s not even two yet, and she runs everything, gets exactly what she wants. I do see that little polar bear in her. She’s just so precious, so precious. I love her. Awesome kid.
Oh, by the way, with my daughter, I have completely stepped aside. You know, I was almost feeling like I was in slavery or indentured servitude, and that all changed—totally different.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
SANDRA: Thank you. I know what you’re going to say. Yes, thank you. And my sister—
ELIAS: Yes?
SANDRA: She is probably the stem cell donor. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Have you spoken to her?
SANDRA: Oh yes. She’s so on line with that, like totally, but I just meant in terms of the genetic match. I—
ELIAS: Compatibility.
SANDRA: Yes. Yeah. Because what she did was she actually drove to the genetic lab, the only one who ever drove there, to give her… We’ve come into such a different place now. It’s very hard to describe the allowance. It’s like she’s a bubble, and I’m a bubble, and we’re different bubbles but we’re all in a bubble bath. That image comes in all the time for me. And I love my world and all my bubbles in my world, and I just let them be, you know? So, everything is really, really changing, you know?
ELIAS: Congratulations.
SANDRA: Thank you.
ELIAS: That is tremendous.
SANDRA: Yeah. It’s like I allow everything. The petty stuff that used to get me? Gone. Little things, they go by now. You know, the hooks, all the triggers and hooks? A couple people that I really liked, they just sort of vanished during this process, and I was puzzled. There was a momentary dip of disappointment because I would have loved some feedback from them, but that went away too, like another bubble. They’re in their realities, creating what they are for their reasons. And everything has this lightness and gentleness that it has never had before.
ELIAS: I would say congratulations, my friend.
SANDRA: Thank you.
ELIAS: That is [inaudible].
SANDRA: Aw. (Laughs) Thank you, Elias. Thank you.
ELIAS: And in that,—
SANDRA: Yeah?
ELIAS: — you are engaging with the individuals that are the most beneficial to you now.
SANDRA: Yes. Yes. Exactly. And I love them so much. I melt into them and love them. And I was not that kind of empathic connector, but my love for them and appreciation is beyond the words that I can ever express. Their beauty, their light, their… They’re just so important to me, and beautiful. Ah!
ELIAS: And I would say that they return that to you tremendously.
SANDRA: Aw. Aw. Thank you.
ELIAS: That it is very much noticed and appreciated, what YOU express.
SANDRA: Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. Because they are very important to me, and I support them and encourage… You know, we’re very different bubbles. And I love what they are and I love their choices, whatever. Yes, thank you, Elias for that. Yeah. All right. So that’s wonderful.
I’m also having many more mergences very easily, like I can bring in Flamel. He came into my body initially very… He’s not a big man. He’s much more thin and nimble, and almost a romantic quality but a kind of driving quality, you know, to detail. And he was showing me books – and he’s in my body while this is happening – and he’s so different from me, but yet he’s transmitted to me how happy he is that this work he’s done will be carried on and outward, and that his influence will be there and he’ll always be there. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: It’s wonderful. And then, it seems like that opening is happening with everybody. It seems like there’s much more ability to feel and merge with anyone and then slip away gently—not in an intrusive manner. You know, I definitely don’t get that feeling with everybody, that they would enjoy mergence; no. It’s not like I go everywhere and do that. But there are a few people that… You know, it’s an interesting exploration, so… It’s happening more and more, is what’s happening. Everything is more or less unfolding very naturally and spontaneously now, so… And I’m enjoying it.
ELIAS: And this is excellent for you in your explorations, that it is unfolding so tremendously.
SANDRA: Oh. Thank you, Elias. It feels—
ELIAS: And giving you so much more information. And I would express a tremendous acknowledgment in your clarity.
SANDRA: Thank you, Elias. Thank you. That has picked up, yes. I can clearly sense and see, but… And there’s more discrimination, too, and discernment coming along with the whole process, you know, not… I mean, I know when to keep quiet. I didn’t used to know that as well as I do now, you know. (Elias laughs) Yeah. And I listen to the expressions more, and… It’s very nice. Very… very… I’m loving life so much now. It’s just (chuckles)…
And then with Jerry: you know the two kids, they were horrified with everything at first. We discussed that. And then they just climbed on board with me, because I’m moving very quickly through this process. Even the physicians are very happy that interact with me, because I don’t have any negative side effects from drugs they give me and I’m a fairly optimistic, agreeable person. And when they get good results, like the white cell count goes from 400 to 78, oh that’s really “This works,” and it affirms their whole professional intention to be helpful. You know? So I can see that. I can see how we nourish and nurture each other.
And I also feel that this process of 12 weeks may be compacted to 9 because when the cells are ready, they’re ready. You know, it’s not like I do anything; I just enjoy getting my Campath and moving into the flow and… Would you agree with that? (Pause) Elias?
ELIAS: I would say it is your journey, my friend—
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: [Inaudible]
SANDRA: Okay. So, it’s what’s happening. It’s not like I say I want this to occur; it’s just that it’s slipping into that state very gently and quickly. And then you’re ready, when you have a donor and your cells are at a particular level, you’re just ready for the next part.
Now the stem cell part that we discussed, this will be a little challenging. I get put into a space for about a month where they take all the immunity away and then reconfigure the stem cells that will eventually replace what was there, which I feel is going to be very, very successful. I’m just a little concerned about what you said before about the pain part, because I will ask for the help I need from the people I need in these processes. Would you agree?
ELIAS: Yes. [Inaudible]
SANDRA: Okay. Yeah. They did a biopsy, which was extremely painful and uncomfortable. I was paralyzed on the right. Like they don’t get that result usually, but I was given quite a few drugs, and it was comfortable, so they helped me with the pain. And that’s why the idea of getting off the steroid is a little good, because then the other drugs work better, in my opinion. You know, they seem to flow better into me, and…
Okay. Well, with that I just have one or two or three questions for Stephie which I would love to ask. One of them is, she’s got three donors for her milk. I feel they’re all perfect, these donors she has right now.
ELIAS: I agree, and it is simply a matter of her preference.
SANDRA: I agree. And I just felt in the pendulum work – which is really very good, the pendulum work I do – is that she really has to use intuition and discretion, you know. If someone is really dirty and sloppy and, you know, rough, it’s clear. But her child is past this critical point, and she’s able to get donations from people. It’s remarkable to me how wonderfully she’s able to do that.
She also has a question about her kids eating chicken in a can. They love chicken in a can. They’re very hearty eaters. They eat more than I do in a day, and they’re only 4. They’re growing very rapidly. But she was concerned that the can might have an effect on the chicken, and she just wanted your opinion. I know canned food isn’t the best, but they won’t eat anything else. They love the canned food, and she wanted to know.
ELIAS: I would say it is a phase.
SANDRA: Yes. (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: And I would say that it isn’t something to be concerned about, and—
SANDRA: Okay. Good. Good.
ELIAS: I would also say that canned chicken is the same as canned tuna or any other canned meat.
SANDRA: Fine.
ELIAS: And in that, I would say that it is safe and that there is no need to be concerned about it.
SANDRA: Okay. Wonderful. Wonderful. Good!
ELIAS: As always, I always would be advocating that people are consuming food sources in a fresh and whole food capacity.
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: But, BUT—these are children.
SANDRA: Yes. Yes.
ELIAS: And children are experimenting.
SANDRA: Yes. Yes.
ELIAS: They are always experimenting. (Sandra laughs) And their parents may not realize that that is what they are doing, but that is what they are doing.
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, I would say that these types of expressions are also very much phases, and they change.
SANDRA: Yeah. And they do eat very wholesome, whole foods in general. She’s very on top of that. That’s one… Even—
ELIAS: I would say that that is all entirely acceptable and that it is not something that is cause for concern. And that at some other point they may be not wanting that at all and they might be choosing to be consuming something that she would be horrified at. (Sandra laughs) And—
SANDRA: Yeah, like American cheese. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Or some type of canned meal that is canned pasta.
SANDRA: Yes. Okay. (Laughs)
ELIAS: That I would say that she would be horrified at, and not to worry about that either, because in that, once again, it is experimenting with their taste buds and with their body consciousness, and... And it is a phase, and it will change.
SANDRA: Okay. Very, very good. I will transmit that to her. She also has some surface fillings that her dentist wanted to fill with silver amalgam. And I had many silver amalgam fillings and had migraines, and when the dentist removed all the fillings and put crowns on the teeth I had such immediate cessation of headaches, it was incredible. So I mentioned to her that maybe she’d want to consider something besides the mercury silver amalgam deal, and I could only come up with a composite, plastic and gold. Do you have any idea what would be good for her there?
ELIAS: I would say for her to genuinely listen to her intuition, because she isn’t you.
SANDRA: Okay. Yes.
ELIAS: And therefore, what may have been very uncomfortable for you might be entirely acceptable for her.
SANDRA: So you’re saying that the silver amalgam in such small amounts on the surface of the teeth might work for her very well.
ELIAS: It might, and therefore what I would say is for her to be genuinely listening to her own intuition in relation to any of these types of expressions, and that will be much more effective.
SANDRA: Okay. I like that. That’s wonderful. Excellent advice. All right.
Well, I am checking the time here, and I believe that we are coming to the time, and… Oh! I still have fifteen minutes. I’m always shocked at how much territory we cover (Elias laughs) and how much time is left, because the sessions are so rich and so beautiful. I don’t even have a clue where to go here, although I love talking to you, Elias. So, can I sort of open this whole forum up to anything you would like to share with me? We could—
ELIAS: I would say that it is very inspiring what you are engaging and what you are presenting to yourself and how you are moving. And the factor that you are presenting all this information to yourself in relation to the procedures, the dis-ease itself and the movement of it, and all of the information around it is quite inspiring that you are giving yourself that much information, and so accurately.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: I would say that, as I expressed earlier in our conversation, one of your challenges presently is learning how to be receiving—which I would say you are doing quite well, to begin with.
SANDRA: (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: But I would also say that it is something that you are doing at this point energetically, for the most part, and I would say that in that, it is an opportunity for you to be learning how to receive in physical capacities also, and being comfortable with that.
SANDRA: Yeah. I’m not there yet, and I would agree.
ELIAS: Remember that when you can receive, you are actually simultaneously giving a gift to them.
SANDRA: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: Because you are allowing them to give.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: When you CAN’T receive, you are denying another individual the opportunity to give.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, it is important. It is important for you. It is important for other individuals. It is also their opportunity to learn how to give in relation to what is actually beneficial and not necessarily only what THEY want.
SANDRA: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, this can be a learning experience for many individuals, in addition to yourself. And I would say that that is tremendous and another avenue of what you are rippling.
SANDRA: Okay. And I understand the reciprocity, which is very helpful for me because it changes the dynamic. So, I’m so thankful for that. Thank you, Elias. Thank you.
You know, with my ex-husband, he was like my ex-husband and kind of like a satellite for me. But now he’s… His heart opened up so much, and he’s so kind, and …. This whole thing has really turned HIS whole world upside down; you could imagine. I mean, he had prostate cancer in the fall, and I was driving him to his cancer operation and biopsy and he was very scared, you know. And then when this happened he was quite devastated initially, I mean terrified and overwhelmed. And he’s sort of like a scientist watching me go through this whole process, you know. And he joins in with me energetically in the enthusiasm, and then he recedes back into this kind of state that’s natural for him. And the point is that there was this softening in him and a giving that he has never had before, and I accept it and it’s really been awesome.
ELIAS: That is tremendous. I would say that this is the type of situation that allows people to move in very different directions and allows you to see a very different side of them, and allows them to see very different sides of themselves.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. You know, my daughter has always wanted in the future… the Borledim compound thing, you know. And I know Jerry is really not a solo operator. He loves his tribe, in my opinion. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
SANDRA: Yeah. And she’s always asking, “Mom, will you consider at some point down the road joining?” And you know, I’m really… You know, it’s interesting. I have never… I hated Jerry at one point, really. When I got divorced I wanted to kill him. I totally admit it. I wanted to put the cleaver in his head or give him poison mushrooms—I admit it. (Elias laughs) I admit it. And I could see the blood trickling down. So, I have done that already, you know, on some level, and I wish I could suck it all back but I can’t, it’s there. But now I have this tremendous love and appreciation for him, and he’s sort of like a roommate to me. And I know he wants a relationship again with me, but Elias, I need some help with this. This isn’t the moment to make decisions like that, but down the road do you think it might be possible that we might just be very congenial? And okay, we tend to work beautifully together, and we’re in our kind of spaces. I’ve never looked for a partner. It’s just not for me. I have too much of my creative life that I’m into, you know.
ELIAS: And what is wrong with the relationship that you have?
SANDRA: I have nothing wrong with it now at all. I just sense this longing on his side to, you know, just make it a more permanent situation where I’d be more in the physical environment more. He really likes that, I could tell. And then, I live alone and I enjoy my space here, but I’m not going to keep this house forever. It’s way too much house for me, and you know, I want to simplify. You know, I just don’t have the use for all the space anymore, and…
ELIAS: I understand.
SANDRA: Yeah.
ELIAS: But I also would say that you (pause)…you do enjoy and appreciate your own space arrangement and time and having the freedom to be alone.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It’s very important, yeah.
ELIAS: And also, having the freedom to not be alone when you want to—
SANDRA: (Laughs) Exactly.
ELIAS: — but with other individuals.
SANDRA: Yes. And that’s the beauty of the situation. Okay. So, we’ll defer all this for much a later time then. It’s just… I know what to answer and say. That’s great. (Both laugh)
You know, my doll thing with Danny – now this is the last challenge I’ll discuss – is that my feeling is that if I told him what I’m going through he would be devastated. He’s a nervous guy. The communists are trying to take over Hong Kong, he’s struggling financially, and I think he put his eggs in the basket called “Sandra” here. And I just keep doing my work, and like the magician that I am, he’s giving me a great gift and I’m receiving it. And it’s a physical gift, you know, monetary, a sustaining gift so that there’s no anxiety around money. And I think we’re just going to do very, very well… because I WANT to, that’s why. (Elias laughs) It’s as simple as that! It’s just great to do it.
ELIAS: I would say that is excellent! (Sandra laughs) And perfect.
SANDRA: Yeah. That’s it. I just want to. That’s it. Okay. (Laughs)
Well, Elias, this is wrap-up time. I am so complete and so comfortable and so… (Sighs) (Elias laughs) Just it’s wonderful, Elias. Thank you.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would be very, very encouraging of you, my friend.
SANDRA: Okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: And I am aware that you are entertaining the idea of incorporating another companion.
SANDRA: Oh! Okay. All right. OH, THE DOG! My little puppy!
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: Yes! Oh, my gosh. Oh, my… This summer I will probably travel to the South, and I kind of targeted in on an area in Grapeland where they have the kind of puppies I like. Oh, I can’t wait. I just can’t wait, yeah. (Elias laughs) Yeah.
ELIAS: Congratulations!
SANDRA: Thank you. Thank you. (Laughs) Yes, that’s my partner.
ELIAS: And that is excellent!
SANDRA: Thank you.
ELIAS: And you definitely deserve it.
SANDRA: Thank you. Thank you. I love that. Thank you, Elias. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I would say, my friend, you continue to be extremely entertaining.
SANDRA: (Laughs) Okay. Wonderful! (Laughs) Ah. All right, Elias. Well…
ELIAS: You may offer my greetings to your daughter.
SANDRA: I will. Yes, mm-hm.
ELIAS: And you may offer my energy to your grandchildren.
SANDRA: Okay. Thank you. (Elias laughs) Okay, Elias. We shall speak again next month.
ELIAS: Very well.
SANDRA: Yes.
ELIAS: I shall greatly be anticipating of that, my friend, and your new adventures.
SANDRA: Well, thank you.
ELIAS: And I express tremendous supportive energy to you and great encouragement to you also.
SANDRA: Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: And encouragement in relation to your book.
SANDRA: Oh yes. Thank you. It’s all of it moving along. Yes. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Very well.
SANDRA: Thank you.
ELIAS: Until our next meeting, in tremendous love and dear friendship as always, au revoir.
SANDRA: Au revoir. Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 57 minutes)
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