Not Enough: Religious Belief of Self-Denial
Topics:
“Not Enough: Religious Belief of Self-Denial”
“Meditation and the Mass Energy”
“Essence Helpfulness”
“Future Interdimensional Movement”
“Vicky’s Presence”
“Energy Flow”
“Intentional Choices”
“How Tapping Dislodges Trauma Memories”
“Stage Fright, Your Unique Voice and Comparing”
Saturday, April 24, 2021 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Judy (Mallya) and Sandra (Yukyi)
“And then, in addition to that, to help you to move in the new direction, think about evidence. What is the evidence that you have that tells you that you can’t do something? What is the evidence that you have that tells you that you are weak? What does that mean? And in that, whose standards are you supposedly being judged by?”
ELIAS: Good morning!
JUDY: Good morning, Elias!
SANDRA: Good morning.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss, my friends?
JUDY: Well, this is Sandra here with me, and of course I’m Judy. And Susan, who was with us before, her essence name is Sileen, so I think you might remember her because she was talking to you the last time, I want to have her questions first. She can’t be with us today, and she has a lot of issues and she’d like to see if she can get some comfort from your words here. So, I’m going to read what she has written here to you.
ELIAS: Very well.
JUDY: Okay. She says, “You talked to me last time about a belief in not enough. I always felt that I had to be a good steward of what I had and try real hard, because there was not enough for everyone. If I took someone else’s stuff, well then they didn’t have enough and they had to do without, and the noble or good person gave to others and denied themselves. Now I’m realizing what a distorted concept that is. If we create our own reality, how can there be a shortage?
“What I want mostly out of life is peace. I need to forgive myself for past, perceived wrongs, the inability to show acceptance and compassion. Why is it so hard to love myself? Is it because I don’t understand unconditional love?”
I’ll leave it at that. Could you answer to some of her questions there?
ELIAS: I would say, moving in this direction of paying attention to herself and paying attention to that idea of not enough, I would say her assessment is correct, that you ARE creating all of your reality, and of course there is enough, and there is plenty for everyone in relation to everything.
Now, that doesn’t mean that everyone allows themself to be expressing in relation to having enough. Just as with herself, this is a very strong religious belief, and it doesn’t matter whether you incorporate being involved in any type of religion or not. Religious beliefs are expressed in influence en masse, and therefore it is something that is very strongly expressed. And this idea of denying yourself in order to express for other people, or taking less for yourself in order to provide more for other people, this concept of self-denial is a very strong religious concept, and it is actually incorrect.
That in this, I would say you provide everything for yourselves. And in that, there is no shortage of anything that you possibly want or need. And therefore, it is a matter of simply recognizing that you create whatever it is that you want or need, and that the more you create and the more you move in directions of having more, the more you actually generate.
Let me express to you, this principle holds in everything. I would say a very simple, easy direction or action that you can engage that expresses this principle very, very obviously is in energy. If you are busy, busy, busy, you will be creating more and more and more energy. The more active you are, the more energy you create. The more sedentary you are and the less you do, the less energy you generate. Therefore, if you are very busy and you are doing many activities, you will generate more energy. This is also the reason that if you are busy, busy, busy and you keep being busy until you go to bed you will likely have difficulty falling asleep, because you keep creating more and more and more energy.
Conversely, if you do nothing, or very little, and you aren’t expressing much energy, you likely will feel tired. The less you do, the less energy you produce, and the less you do, the more likely you are to feel tired when you aren’t even doing anything. In that, it is simply because (chuckles) you aren’t generating much energy, because you aren’t using much energy.
In this, this applies to everything. If you are generating anything in abundance, the more you create, the more you have and the more you will create. Whether it be objects, whether it be money, whether it be food, whether it be time, whether it be energy—it doesn’t matter what it is. The more you create, the more you have. And in that, this is the basic principle of consciousness: You always create more.
Now; that can be tricky at times, because if you are expressing in a direction of not enough, the more you express not enough, the more you will create that. You always create more of what you pay attention to and what you concentrate on. Therefore, if you concentrate on lack, you will create more lack. If you concentrate on not enough, you will create more not enough. If you concentrate on plenty, you will create more plenty. It is a basic principle of consciousness. This is how consciousness functions. And in that, in physical reality, this is a principle that has been known throughout your history.
Why do religious expressions move in the direction of encouraging lack and encouraging not enough? Because if you have not enough, then it will influence you to be dependent. If you are dependent, then you are in a position to be controlled. Therefore, that would be the reason that this has been expressed previously throughout your history, and it is a very viable tool. What I would say is, that doesn’t mean it’s true—it isn’t true. And in that, I would say that this is a direction that is reinforced in your societies in relation to looking at other cultures and expressing that THEY don’t have enough, and therefore you should pay attention or you should not be wasteful, because there are other individuals that don’t have enough.
And let me express to you, the (chuckles) idea of not enough can be insidious at times, in that you may be expressing that someone else doesn’t have enough and therefore you may not be thinking that you don’t; but in that, think about this. When you are being taught as children to not be wasteful, you are being taught that, and you are being told that there are children in other countries that are starving, and therefore you should not be wasteful in relation to what you have. But in that, there is always this underlying piece that whatever you have is limited also, and that’s also the reason you shouldn’t be wasteful.
Now, I’m not expressing that you should be wasteful, but the idea of wastefulness comes from this expression of not enough. I would say that if you are expressing to a child to simply be appreciating what they have, but you aren’t actually expressing anything to them about being wasteful, they likely won’t be anyway, because it is something that you don’t naturally express, wastefulness. You don’t naturally move in those directions. That is learned behavior, to be wasteful. It is also learned behavior to be thinking about not being wasteful and to be moving in directions that are expressing that not-enough mentality and that you have to be careful in relation to what you have.
Now, I would say that yes, there are people in other cultures, in other countries, that express lack and that express even starvation. Is that because they actually wouldn’t have enough if they had a different perception? No, they would have enough if they had a different perception, but that is the perception that they express, and therefore that is also what they create. And in that, I would say that this is also a choice, and many of them choose to be experiencing in that manner and they do it very briefly, because they disengage.
JUDY: Oh. Yeah.
ELIAS: And in that, they simply choose a brief experience in that direction, and then they disengage.
JUDY: I see. That’s interesting. Well, what about what her wanting mostly out of life is peace?
ELIAS: And what I would say in relation to that, it is the same as everything else, that whatever it is that you want in life, it is a matter of choosing that. EVERYTHING is a choice—everything is a choice. And in that, it is a matter of moving in directions in which you know that what you are doing is a choice. And therefore, as an example, if wanting peace is something that is very important to an individual, and that is what they want in life, then it is a matter of looking at what choices are you making that prevent you from experiencing peace, and what choices can you make differently that will allow you to be expressing that peace, because everything is a choice.
Therefore, it is a matter of evaluating, what are you doing that is not creating peace? And what can you choose differently that WILL be creating peace, recognizing that it is all about your choices. And in that, sometimes initially that can be challenging because people automatically express, “I don’t have peace because of the people around me and what they are doing and what they are choosing. It isn’t what I’m choosing; it’s what they’re choosing.” No, because you are choosing to participate with the people around you.
And in that, I would say that it isn’t black and white. That doesn’t mean that if you want peace that you stop interacting with the people around you or the people that you care about that are creating situations that are not peaceful or that are contrary to peace. It is a matter of looking at, very realistically, what your participation is with those people. And in that, then looking at what are your choices. What can you do differently? How can you interact differently? Or how can you move in a different direction? Meaning that the actions that you choose, or the times that you choose to be interactive, or the manner in which you choose to be interactive are contributing to your lack of peace.
And in that, it also comes back to that entire subject of not enough. Not enough can be expressed in everything: not enough attention, not enough peace, not enough quiet, not enough interaction, not enough caring, not enough consideration—it can be anything. And in that, it is a matter of looking at those expressions from a more realistic perspective in relation to how you are engaging with those subjects. What are YOU doing with those subjects? How are YOU engaging with that, and what is your participation? Because YOU have choices.
And in that, that is where your power lies—not in what other people are doing, but in what you do. You don’t have any control in relation to what other people do. You don’t have control period, but you definitely have no control in relation to what other people do and what they express and how they behave. But you do have your own choices, and in that, the point is that you are directing you. And in directing you, then you create for yourself.
In that, you get to choose. You get to choose what you feel, you get to choose what you do, you get to choose what you want and how you want it.
In this, I would say that it is actually more simple than you might perceive, that it is simply a matter of looking at your own position and looking at what you do and what your choices are, and coming from the perspective of everything being enough—because the more you do that, the more everything WILL be enough. If you are moving in a direction of making choices for yourself in being enough peace, you will HAVE enough peace. And the more you do that, the more you will move into abundance with that. That is how you create abundance, is by paying attention to what you already have and what you already do, and appreciating that and continuing to make choices in those directions, and you will automatically create more and more and more of it.
JUDY: Okay. That sounds good. One last question for her. She’s been a meditator for years, and she said lately, she says that when she goes into meditation she has this sense of motion. She says it’s very disorienting, and she wants to know what that motion is that she’s experiencing when she’s trying to meditate.
ELIAS: I would say that is actually good. And I would say to her not to think of it in terms of being bad or disorienting, but that this is actually a movement in the direction of greater awareness. I would say that it is that movement—and it actually is movement—in relation to shifting and the significance of that. What she is experiencing is the movement all around her. Therefore, in that, to not oppose it and to not move in a direction of generating that idea or that expression that this is not good, it is interruptive, it is somewhat disturbing. Once again, that also moves in the not enough peace direction. And what I would say is simply allow, and it will dissipate eventually and it will move in a direction of not being something that is bothersome to her. I would say that it simply is a noticing of this tremendous, tremendous movement that is happening in consciousness, and she is simply tapping into that and being aware of it.
JUDY: Yes, and others seem to be having trouble meditating in different methods than Susan has. I meditate also, and I have others that I know who do, and we’ve all had trouble through this chaotic time with a tremendous amount of thoughts interrupting and a feeling [that] the peace that normally comes from meditation is underlying disrupted. It’s disrupted and then you have to be gentle with yourself and just keep moving, just going back and doing what you were doing.
ELIAS: I agree.
JUDY: And just accepting that.
ELIAS: Now, THAT is more associated with the collective energy, and that, I agree, can be somewhat disruptive and it can be interruptive. And in that, it is a matter of not becoming frustrated but to simply readjust and move in a direction of restarting, in a manner of speaking, and allowing yourself to not be frustrated with that expression, because that simply will defeat the purpose in relation to your meditation.
JUDY: Right.
ELIAS: Therefore, I would say that this is a matter of simply acknowledging that collective energy. And what you can do in your meditation is you can momentarily redirect and express an intention of being soothing in relation to that mass energy. That likely will help not only you, but it will also express a ripple outward in relation to other people, especially those people that are around you. It will affect the people around you in physical proximity first, and then it will ripple from there. But I would say that it definitely will help in adding a calming element to the energy around you.
JUDY: Well, that would make sense. You’ve talked to me about that in the past, too. Yeah. Well, okay, I’m going to go on to some of my questions now. This is Judy talking here.
ELIAS: Very well.
JUDY: All right. First of all, you know I play with my wands all the time, and you laughed the last time I asked you if you were aware of that. You just laughed; you didn’t say anything to me about it, but you laughed, so I figured you’ve been maybe busy with me when I’m working with my wands?
ELIAS: I am always present with you, my friend. Yes.
JUDY: You have reassured me of that many times. I appreciate that. So, when I use these wands, I want to know if I’m just imagining messages, you know, that I’m getting from the directions that they go. I used them this morning, and I was talking to you about having this session. And so anyway I said, “Are you really there?” and at that point the wands went to 180-degree position. And in past meetings with you on this issue, you said that that represented an energy exchange?
ELIAS: Correct.
JUDY: Did that mean that you were there, along with my helpers?
ELIAS: Yes.
JUDY: Okay. Are all my helpers around me all the time? Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JUDY: So, I have Adam and Alicia and Roven. They’re my helpers that you named for me, years ago.
ELIAS: Yes.
JUDY: And so I talk to them a lot. So, they… Well, I know that you told me that Adam already led me to a book that was helpful to me here in the past, and so I know that one of them, at least, is leading me or directing me sometimes to do things. So is that the purpose of our helpers?
ELIAS: I would say that it depends on the individual, that there are always essences around you, as I have expressed to you, and that they are helpful and that they are offering supportive energy to you, and how they do that depends on the individual and how they interact or what their perception is. Some people, as you have been fascinated with stories of, move in directions of perceiving that there are angels around them that are helping them in different capacities. And so, therefore, there are essences around them that engage with them in that capacity, that they will generate actions that the individual can interpret in that manner. Some people, it is significant to them to have something that is guiding them, so to speak, that with everything they do, they are looking to that helpful energy to be guiding them. And therefore, that will be how those essences will express themselves.
In relation to you, you move in directions in which you ask questions, or you want that guidance and helpfulness, and therefore that is the method that these essences engage with you. I would say yes, they are always supportive and always helpful to you whenever you engage them. They are helpful anyway.
JUDY: Mm-hm. Well, it’s comforting to know that. Also, you made a comment in the past that those of us that are here—which Adam, by the way, you told me is also over in California somewhere. I don’t know if he is still there or disengaged. (Laughs) At the time you told me about Adam being one of my helpers, you also said he had a focus out there in California. So you said that I myself am a helper to somebody else. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Correct.
JUDY: So, by “me,” it would be the Judy focus, is that helper? Or is it my Mallya essence that’s the helper? What would it be?
ELIAS: I would say both.
JUDY: Both. Well, yeah. You can’t go… (Both laugh) You can’t go without the other, right.
ELIAS: Yes!
JUDY: Interesting. Well, anyway, that’s very comforting, and I’m sure other people would like to hear that too.
SANDRA: May I interject here?
JUDY: Yeah, go ahead.
SANDRA: What interests me about what you’ve been talking about is that there is a connectedness aspect to what you’ve been talking about, but there’s also a separation aspect to it.
JUDY: Mm-hm.
SANDRA: Because it’s like your guides are not you, but actually maybe they are you.
JUDY: Well, yeah.
SANDRA: I mean, I just noticed that and I just wanted to interject that, that there was these two things.
JUDY: Yeah, we’re all so interconnected.
SANDRA: I mean, we’re creating all this, so are you creating your guides?
JUDY: Ah! Good question. How about that, Elias?
ELIAS: Yes, you are. And I would say that you are creating the interaction. You are creating the choice of which essences you engage with. You are creating the participation.
Now; does that mean that you entirely create the other essence? Yes and no. In one capacity, I would say in consciousness, yes, because everything IS interconnected and there is no separation. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, figuratively, you could say that yes, you are creating those other essences. But in actuality, I would say that that in itself would be somewhat of an expression of separation, that you would be creating these other essences, because it isn’t a matter of creating them. You ARE them, and they are you, because there is no separation.
But in relation to what you might think of in physical focus, let us limit it to that. And in association with that, I would say that you are participating with different essences, and you do choose which essences that you will be participating with, and therefore, you are creating the participation.
JUDY: Oh, that sounds like a good way to look at it. Yeah.
SANDRA: The difference is physical essences opposed to the whole.
JUDY: Yeah, we’re all connected on the other level, so that’s…
ELIAS: Correct. But you don’t actually recognize that fully.
JUDY: Yeah.
ELIAS: Not yet.
JUDY: (Laughs) Right. Not yet.
ELIAS: But you will.
JUDY: Oh, I’m sure of it. I want to give you something here. I went to some of the interesting future focuses that have been posted on our network here, our website, and one of them was a male homosexual in 2302, or projecting ahead, and he had gender changing in order to bear children. And I wanted to know, how do they do that?
ELIAS: That would be a matter of (pause) a different type of creation. In that, it is actually a procedure that is designed to alter not only the gender of the individual but also to incorporate including the actual physical gender organs of that particular gender, and therefore, in that, giving an individual the ability to move in that direction to make that choice of incorporating children or not.
JUDY: Well, that’s fascinating. I thought wow, but yeah. Anyway, there are a lot of things here that I found interesting, such as a future focus was born in Spain in 2351, and that person was a writer and a time traveler, and she writes about the different dimensions of time. Wow; that’s really getting into the sci-fi stuff that we like. (Elias laughs)
ELIAS: I would say, as you continue moving forward in association with this Shift and engaging in other directions, as you have already shifted by that point, it allows for considerable freedom in new activities.
JUDY: Well, I have a new one here. Boy, it gets even more awesome. And of course, this is from Daryl, Ashrah, and I know that she has already disengaged. And I gathered so much information from her transcripts, and I appreciated that she published all of those right up her struggle with cancer and your help with her. But anyway, she has one here that projects to the 28th century, and it’s a future focus who has the ability to change genders. Now that would mean what? Shape-shifting?
ELIAS: That is… Now, that is different.
JUDY: (Laughs) Yeah, that would be different, yeah.
ELIAS: That is actually the incorporation of the ability to move through different dimensions.
JUDY: Oh.
ELIAS: It is part of the beginning of what you are opening the door to in relation to this Shift. This Shift has far-reaching implications, and in that, one of them is in relation to interdimensional expressions, that this would be another piece of thinning those veils of separation. Remember: you aren’t eliminating separation entirely, because you still are engaging a physical reality—or many—and in that, what this is, is an example of that interdimensional movement and engaging. That beings from other dimensions can be engaged with your dimension, and that you can be interactive and exchanging and you can be experiencing with each other, in a very similar capacity to how you would be engaging extraterrestrials in your own dimension. That by that time, you will be engaging travel through space in addition to travel through dimensions, and it would be very similar. That you will likely be engaging and meeting many, many, many different types of beings that you will engage exchanges with AND that are other focuses of you.
JUDY: Oh!
ELIAS: Just as you have other focuses in this time framework in your reality, you also have other focuses of you in this time framework in other realities, other planets, other areas of your universe that you aren’t aware of yet—but that doesn’t mean you don’t have focuses there.
JUDY: Well, since that’s already happening—because everything’s happening at once, right?—
ELIAS: Correct.
JUDY: So, you know, I’m a final focus and as I disengage, most of my other focuses would disengage voluntarily too, but they don’t have to—I mean, other than leaving aspects of themselves behind.
ELIAS: Correct.
JUDY: But I have…Let me simplify this. Vicky, I felt like I was a friend of Vicky and I never knew her. I became conscious of you and the website and Mary Ennis after Vicky had departed, had disengaged. But reading and listening to her on a lot of transcripts that she put forth, I felt like I knew her. So, I was so disheartened when I realized that she had disengaged and I never got to know her, you know, here. So I’m wondering, how much is Vicky participating? I know Lawrence is participating with Nuno, but I want to know how much Vicky is in there.
ELIAS: I would say that she is participating considerably as herself, that this is an individual that chose after she disengaged to be playing with objective reality for quite some time. And in that, even after she became aware of her death, she still chose to be playing with objective creations for a considerable amount of time.
Now, I would say that she also has moved in a direction in which she has a fascination with this particular reality. She has a fascination with this dimension and your universe and extraterrestrials. She also is fascinated with other-dimensional beings, but she is in a position in which she can explore all of them at the same time. (Both laugh) In that, I would say that she definitely is still very much engaged with your reality and expressing in relation to many individuals that are interested in connecting with her.
JUDY: Oh, that’s interesting. I could talk to Vicky maybe, huh?
ELIAS: Most definitely.
JUDY: Yeah. And should tell her how much I appreciated what she did here in getting all of this started, helping out with Mary and all, and getting—
ELIAS: I would agree. I would express you definitely can move in that direction, my friend.
JUDY: Yeah.
One other thing I wanted to call to everybody’s attention that caught my eye. You know we’ve been really discussing this disengagement so much, and then how our disengaged people make connections with us after they have died. And this one from February 17, 2021, Ben is talking, and he’s saying that their mother died, and he says, “A few days after Mom passed away, my brother started having these conversations” with their mom in his head. And it went on for about a week, and he said she was very responsive; she experienced no sorrows, regrets or sadness; she was very light-hearted; she was very loving and relaxed. But most impressively, she was telling him there is no attachment. [In the session, Ben said] “Therefore, she doesn’t miss us, but she loves us and there is no attachment.” And you answered, “That is very accurate.” You said, “In relation to the ultimate choice whether to continue in physical focus or not, you genuinely recognize that it isn’t a matter of one direction being more important than the other. It is all neutral. It is simply a matter of curiosity, what you happen to be more curious about in that moment, literally in the moment.
“Now; it is not unusual for people to have these types of experiences directly following a person’s death, because the energy of that person, the physical energy, lingers.”
So, that was interesting, because the fact that it is all neutral and the fact that she said there is no attachment. You know, we think that people should be totally bereaved when they die and realize they’ve died, that they… you know, they still long to have that attachment to their loved ones that are still living. But this says there IS no attachment, and that is a new concept for most of us.
ELIAS: And I would say that that is very accurate. There is no attachment.
JUDY: Yeah. Yeah. And that’s something that helps us get beyond this sort of level of thinking, I think. It’s helped me, anyway.
ELIAS: I agree. And what I would say in that is, this also expresses that beyond there not being any attachments, then that also automatically expresses that there are no messages. This is something that people that are grieving look for tremendously. This is something that they want to… they want to have. They want there to be a message from the individual that has died, that has disengaged from physical reality. And therefore, they look for that, and this is the reason that psychics are very popular, because people are grieving and they are experiencing that loss, and they want that connection, or what they think of as a connection, with the individual that has disengaged, and therefore they are looking for a message from that individual.
There is no message, because the individual that has disengaged is still interacting with you. Because until they remember their death—which they don’t, immediately—and until they remember their death, they perceive that they are still interacting with you. Why would they leave you a message if they’re interacting with you on a daily basis, in their perception? If they want to give you a message, they’ll simply tell you. And in that, they believe they ARE interacting with you, until they remember their death. But I would say in that, this is more an expression of the people that are grieving. They feel this tremendous loss, and they feel this emptiness that they so desperately want filled, that that is what motivates them in these directions, to seek out someone that they believe can connect with their loved one and therefore can bring them a message, and therefore comfort them.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
I would say that it may actually be more comforting NOT incorporating a message but recognizing that their loved one is content and happy and is engaging in activities that make them happy.
JUDY: Okay. I think we’ll stop there, because we’re going to have a recess here for Mary, and then we will be back with you. Okay?
ELIAS: Very well!
JUDY: Thank you.
ELIAS: I shall be engaging you shortly.
(Break occurs after 1 hour)
ELIAS: Continuing.
SANDRA: Okay. Hi. Sandra. Judy was talking about something that interested me, and I think the question is answered about the after-death energy exchange. Just an incident that occurred many years ago, I worked in a radio station, and—well, I still do, for another week or so—and every hour we would have to take forward power readings having to do with the megahertz etc. And one of the announcers that I was connected with there died. And I would come in and work there, and all of a sudden the megahertz reading would just jump around all over the place. It was supposed to read around between 18 and 2100, and it would go down to 17 and cause the alarms to go off, and then it would go up to 25 or something. And it would just jump around all over the place, and I kept wondering, is that Frank?—that was the guy’s name – Frank’s energy, messing around in the radio there? It didn’t happen to anyone else, it only happened to me. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would say yes. And I would say that that type of action or type of electrical activity is not unusual.
SANDRA: Well, I thought maybe it had something to do with him, because we had always talked before he passed. We talked about the Elias information and he was into that kind of thing, and I thought well, maybe he’s interacting with me somehow.
ELIAS: And playing.
SANDRA: Yeah. (Laughs) Okay. (Elias laughs) Yeah. Okay. Good to know, because there were a couple of other incidents that also occurred, but it’s probably the same thing, so…
Okay. I have written down a few things, and I was reading through it and I thought it doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know what I was writing, so I’m going to muse on about a few things and you can just interject and add additional information, hopefully—I mean, please.
ELIAS: Very well. (Laughs)
SANDRA: Okay. I was just thinking about probabilities at one point the other day, and I was thinking, Well, if there’s all no time, actually, it’s only time in physical dimension or a couple of other dimensions, perhaps also time in a different way, what’s with the probabilities? Because probabilities require a future. If we’re thinking about probabilities.
ELIAS: Do they?
SANDRA: Or do they occur in the moment? I guess they occur in the moment, don’t they?
ELIAS: Do they require a future?
SANDRA: I guess not. All probabilities are here in the moment.
ELIAS: I would say that actually that is correct. They don’t, because probabilities are all expressed, yes, in the moment.
SANDRA: Now. Hm. Okay.
ELIAS: Everything is now.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. We’re trying to get our brains around that. Yeah. (Both laugh) I guess I was thinking, if it’s all happening, it’s… Why are there probabilities at all? Because it’s already done.
ELIAS: Ah! But no, —
SANDRA: All the lives are being at one time existing, so—
ELIAS: No. That is a statement associated with time. And in that, if everything was already done, there would be no expansion. There would be no surprise. There would be no movement or nothing new. And there is always new, and there is always surprise. And therefore, in that, there is always discovery. Consciousness is always moving and is always discovering, and always becoming.
Therefore, in that, probabilities are simply an expression of that.
SANDRA: Oh. Okay.
ELIAS: That’s simply a word that we use to describe discovery.
SANDRA: Hm. Okay.
ELIAS: Probabilities don’t already exist.
SANDRA: Right.
ELIAS: They are created in the moment. They don’t require a future, and they don’t already exist.
SANDRA: Okay. I’m going to have to wrap my head around that, because it’s sort of… Because we live in a time existence—
ELIAS: Yes.
SANDRA: The idea that these… that we already have focuses, you know, centuries down the pike makes it seem like if it’s already been decided.
ELIAS: No.
SANDRA: But it’s not. Okay.
ELIAS: Correct. Because everything is happening now. And in that, this is simply a configuration of time in a physical reality. Physical realities do incorporate time, because time is a requirement for matter. Therefore, in order to have a physical reality, in order to incorporate physical matter, you have to have time. And in that, it is simply a configuration of consciousness.
SANDRA: Yeah. Consciousness is action. I presume that perception is also action?
ELIAS: Perception is a projection. That is also associated with physical reality, that perception is something that isn’t necessary in nonphysical areas of consciousness, other than after an individual disengages, because they are still creating objective reality, and therefore they also are still incorporating a perception, which is the projector.
SANDRA: Right. Okay. Does that…? I’m just curious. When you disengage and you’re still engaging perception, are you also…? The body consciousness, the way we think of it, has… Well, what happens to the body consciousness? Because if you’re creating your reality, after you disengage I presume you’re also creating—and I’m probably not, maybe not, I don’t know—you’re also engaged in eating and drinking and…?
ELIAS: Or you think you are.
SANDRA: You think you are.
ELIAS: You think you are. You are engaging the movements, the motions, the activities, and therefore that piece is an illusion. And in that, you think you are generating those actions of eating and drinking. Although, —
SANDRA: You have ice cream all the time? (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would say, most individuals don’t actually even do that. They will incorporate imagery in which they may be engaging a meal with other people, and therefore they will observe the other people eating and drinking, and it won’t seem odd to them that they aren’t actually participating and doing the same action. They don’t actually, for the most part—some will create some of those motions and then they think they are actually doing it—but most of them, I would say, don’t actually even incorporate the activities. They might watch other people engage certain activities, but it isn’t something that even actually occurs to them. Anything that is a bodily function, they simply don’t do.
SANDRA: Okay. I didn’t think so, but… We’re talking about creating reality, and It’s just something that sort of came up in my head once.
JUDY: Yeah. For those of us who like ice cream so much, huh? (Laughs)
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering whether people had ice cream.
ELIAS: They simply don’t think of it.
JUDY: Yeah. Yeah. I can see. It’s more like a dream, then, I guess.
ELIAS: Mm.., no.
JUDY: Not the same.
ELIAS: I would say because in that, there is a different quality to dreams, that they are creating the imagery that appears to be normal to them. It appears to be the same as whatever they were engaging in physical focus—without whatever led to their death.
SANDRA: Okay. So then, how…? Here’s another funny thought: How do Judy and I know that we’re not disengaged? (Both laugh) Is it only because we…?
ELIAS: (Laughs). How you know that is very simple. Because, I would say, you can check that at any moment in relation to engage any subject with another individual, and if they present something to you that is a surprise, or that you wouldn’t have considered, or that they disagree with you—
SANDRA: Yeah, I was thinking, disagreement. Yeah.
ELIAS: Anything that moves in a direction that is in disagreement with you or surprising to you or something that you wouldn’t have considered, that is your validation that you have not—
SANDRA: Disengaged. Okay. Well, that’s okay now. (Both laugh) I think we know that.
JUDY: Yes.
SANDRA: We may not know anything else, but at least we know that.
JUDY: We’ll keep that in mind.
SANDRA: Well, we were talking about flow the last time we were talking together, and after that time I went home, and I’m a creature of a great deal of habit, especially in the morning, upon arising, and I was watching the energy. I thought, “Well, I’m going to watch the energy flow.” And after about an hour of watching, I discovered that it’s automatic. Energy flow is automatic—it just happens. And what happens is that you are disrupted at certain points in the automatic sort of energy flow that’s occurring, and then you have to make decisions about what you are going to do. The telephone might ring, and you have to decide are you going to answer the phone, or are you going to continue in the direction that you’re going, something like that.
ELIAS: I would say that is partially correct. The piece about energy flow being automatic or a flow is correct. I would say that it isn’t that you are interrupted and that you make a choice; it is that you are making choices continuously. Every moment, every second of your existence, you are continuously making choices. It is a matter of recognizing that you ARE making choices in that flow, and in that, how are you redirecting the flow with each choice that you make.
SANDRA: That is not easy, especially when so much of your choices are… They ARE automatic, and you’re NOT aware of them.
ELIAS: I agree, and that is the point of being more self-aware, that you are actually aware of yourself. You are aware of making choices, and when you become aware of making choices, that you ARE making choices. That everything you do Is a choice—everything.
SANDRA: I can tell myself that intellectually, but it is not—
ELIAS: I know. (Laughs) And when you actually become aware of that and you can actually see your choices, because you are more self-aware, at that point then you begin to see what the implications of those choices are, because then you begin to see how you are moving with that flow or you are redirecting that flow, and you are moving it in a different direction or the same direction. And in that, you begin to have the ability to see farther into the future as to where that flow is going.
SANDRA: Yeah. I’m working on that.
ELIAS: What doors it’s opening and what branches it is incorporating and what it is flowing into.
SANDRA: Mm. I think I’m working on that and I’ve found myself in the routine. For example, if I’m going to the kitchen and I want to take something from A to B, and then I go to the kitchen and I forgot to take A to B, that interrupts right away and it reminds me that I have interrupted my flow of energy. Is that a way to start teaching myself to pay more attention? Because that’s happening a lot.
ELIAS: Yes, that would be a method, and I would say that the more aware you become, then it is a matter of in each moment noticing what are the choices that you have. And in that, even if you have interrupted a flow, let us say—because you never actually interrupt it; you simply move it in a different direction. You are redirecting it. If you forget something, you’ve just redirected it in a direction that you don’t necessarily want to move in. That is the key. The key is that the more self-aware you become, the more intentional you can become, because the more you are aware of that flow and you are aware of your choices in it, and therefore, as you can see what the implications are of your choices, you can more efficiently and effectively be intentionally choosing, because you KNOW what you are intentionally choosing and you know what direction it is moving in.
And in that, this gives you a genuine awareness of your point of power in the now in relation to choice and WHAT you are choosing and HOW you are choosing. And in all of that, I would say that it creates the ability to see, such as when you notice that, in your terms, you interrupted the flow. What you actually did was simply divert it; you changed the direction of it. And in that, then you noticed that you forgot something, and it moved you in a particular direction, and then you stop and you want to redirect yourself, and you want to move in the direction of whatever it was that you forgot. And you can do that, and that’s simply redirecting that flow again.
In this, if you think of it in relation to the analogy of a stream, it is a matter of every choice that you make either keeps you in a particular direction or it diverts you. It diverts that stream, and it makes it move in a slightly different direction. It may not be moving in a tremendously different direction, but each choice that you do automatically, that you aren’t aware of, likely does move you in directions that you may or may not want, because you aren’t actually being self-directing. That is what self-directing is. It is being intentional. It is knowing that everything is a choice, and knowing that you are choosing the direction, and knowing what direction you are choosing, not simply moving in an automatic capacity. When you move in automatic directions in automatic capacities, then you make choices that you aren’t necessarily aware of. They aren’t intentional, and they may or may not be what you want, and they may or may not be comfortable.
The factor that you move in directions that may BE comfortable doesn’t mean that you are doing it intentionally. It doesn’t mean you—
SANDRA: Oh. That’s interesting.
ELIAS: And it doesn’t mean that you are aware of what you are doing or that you see those choices and that you are doing it intentionally. Even in relation to generating what you think of as intentional choices, they aren’t actually intentional choices. Such as choosing to purchase a vehicle: that is something that you think about, you give yourself information about, and that you move in directions of thinking to yourself, “This is an intentional choice,” because you want to choose it.
SANDRA: Right.
ELIAS: The factor that you want to choose something doesn’t mean that it is an intentional choice. What is an intentional choice is not simply that you want to choose something, but that you know what it means, that you know what the implications are, that you can see the doors that that choice is opening. When you choose to buy a vehicle, you aren’t aware of what doors are opening because of that choice; all you are aware of is that this is something that you want and that you can do that. But you don’t know what the implications of that choice are, what doors that choice is opening a week from now, a month from now, a year from now—you don’t know what that is presenting. You simply know that that is a choice that you are making that you want to do.
SANDRA: Right. Hm. Oh, man, that’s complicated.
JUDY: Yeah. It is complicated. I mean, we don’t… (Laughs)
SANDRA: Long way to go with that one. (Elias laughs) We’re just mere mortals. We don’t understand all that.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Ah, mere mortals.
SANDRA: (Laughs) Yeah. Anyway, moving on a little, thank you for that. That was far more complicated than I ever thought it would be. (Both laugh) All right.
JUDY: We’re going to muddle through that.
ELIAS: Actually, I would say, my friend, that when you move to a point in which you begin to do that, you will begin to see that it is actually far less complicated than you thought.
SANDRA: Well, perhaps. Right? I hope so. (Both laugh) Right.
Well, last time we spoke I was also talking about the experience I had feeling great gratitude toward my departed husband, Orville, and I’ve been thinking along those lines. And I’ve… I have to be also grateful to myself. I have to be grateful to…not only to him. I have to acknowledge and accept that total relationship, and that’s a very complicated relationship. I don’t want to go into all the different side thoughts I had about it.
But I noticed that there was still in me a lot of judgment of myself recurring when I was going through those thinkings, and especially in that I felt very much coming down on myself that I was terribly weak, that I didn’t do this and this or I didn’t do that and that. And that occurred not only in that relationship but in other aspects of my life. And then I‘ve been reading and trying some tapping and whatever, and I’m thinking, even though I’m intellectually becoming aware of a lot of thoughts about relationships, etc., and how I think of myself and how I discount myself, the intellectual knowing doesn’t seem to cause any shift. And I’m wondering, is there an emotional or some other kind of aspect involved? And I have tried the tapping business, and I get sort of bored with it after a while and I don’t feel like any shifting is occurring, so I’m wondering—
ELIAS: Let me express to you, first of all, that that action of tapping doesn’t create any successful action if it isn’t associated with trauma, with a specific trauma.
SANDRA: Oh. Okay.
ELIAS: That is the point of the tapping. The tapping is an action that you do that is designed to be engaging your physical brain in a particular capacity, that when an individual has trauma, that trauma is actually physiologically lodged in one hemisphere of their physical brain. And the tapping action is designed to help dislodge that, because what happens with your physical brain is, your brain has a tremendous amount of difficulty concentrating on two actions at the same time, especially if one of those actions involves your hands. The brain automatically moves a significant part of attention to what your physical hands are doing.
Now; the reason that is important—and it can be in relation to tapping, or you can have electrodes that you are holding in your hands; it creates the same result. In that, what happens is, is that then because the brain is focused on what the hands are doing in a physical capacity, it is much more difficult for the brain to continue to protect certain memories. Therefore, it has a significant amount of difficulty protecting the memories of trauma, and if it can’t protect those memories of trauma, then they can be moved to the other hemisphere of the brain—because that is what the brain is doing; it is protecting those memories and holding them in that position. Because in that, what the physical brain is doing is it is protecting the you in relation to the body consciousness, the brain being part of the body consciousness. And in that, it is protecting itself, [in] that trauma has the capacity to generate fracture in relation to the brain, the psyche. Therefore, the brain is protecting itself—and, in a manner of speaking, protecting you—in keeping certain memories in a particular area and locked. And in that, it protects itself from fracture.
Now; in that, when you are generating that tapping action, the brain is diverted, and therefore it opens an avenue in which now those memories are not being guarded and they can be extracted.
SANDRA: Okay, that’s where the shift comes in.
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; in that, if you aren’t addressing to trauma, the only thing tapping does is it distracts your brain. Therefore, you won’t necessarily notice anything other than perhaps difficulty in concentration. Other than that, you won’t notice anything in what you think of as a positive action, because all the brain is doing is being distracted.
SANDRA: Okay. Well then if I am noticing ways in which I discount myself and these have nothing to do with trauma, is there still an emotional aspect that has to occur for me to fully change my feelings? Or can I do that, intellectually? Because intellectually, I’m beginning to understand certain things, but it doesn’t seem to make any…
ELIAS: Intellectually you are beginning to understand what?
SANDRA: How I discount myself and how I have felt I’m a weak person in certain aspects, that I’m not strong enough for certain things. So, I know it’s there, and I sometimes hear myself express it and I sometimes think it, but I recognize it. So—
ELIAS: Now; what I would say is, that is—
SANDRA: But I still feel there is no change occurring.
ELIAS: That is half the battle. And what I would say to you is, in relation to that, that is not necessarily associated with trauma, but that is definitely something that is habitual that you have learned and you have held onto and you have continued throughout your life that is very familiar. And knowing it, recognizing it, is half the battle. Then in that, what I would say to you is, your subjective awareness will do most of the work, and what is significant for you to do objectively is to catch yourself.
SANDRA: Yeah, notice. Okay.
ELIAS: If you do that when you actually are discounting yourself, when you are moving in a direction in which you are expressing something familiar, you are discounting yourself in a familiar capacity—or you are denying yourself, you are telling yourself you can’t do something, you don’t deserve something, or you’re not good enough to do something, or you’re not capable enough to do something—that is when you pay attention, you note that this is one of those moments that you are doing that, and you intentionally express differently.
SANDRA: Right. Okay.
ELIAS: You move in a direction in being intentional, and you express to yourself, “That’s not true.” These are old things, they are old recordings in your physical brain and that they are not valid and that they are not true.
And then, in addition to that, to help you to move in the new direction, think about evidence. What is the evidence that you have that tells you that you can’t do something? What is the evidence that you have that tells you that you are weak? What does that mean? And in that, whose standards are you supposedly being judged by?
SANDRA: Yeah. Self-direction. Yeah.
ELIAS: Correct. In that, it is a matter of reinforcing yourself by expressing that reminder about evidence. You have evidence to the contrary, and you don’t necessarily have evidence to support that old association, those old recordings, those old feelings. Can you do this intellectually? Most definitely. Do you have to engage signals or feelings about that? No, you don’t.
Now, in that, WHEN you have feelings, I would say that it is significant to remind yourself that they likely are then feelings, and that, once again, what is the evidence that supports them? And reminding yourself that a feeling that you have doesn’t make something absolutely true.
SANDRA: Okay.
So, many years ago I got degrees in music and I was going to be a vocal soloist. I gave it up because—this is one of the weaknesses that I was thinking about—I gave it up finally, because I would get so afraid when I had to perform that I absolutely performed terribly. I just couldn’t breathe. My breathing apparatus would get so uptight. At that point the tapping might have been beneficial, perhaps. I’m not sure whether intellectual knowledge at that point would have been helpful.
ELIAS: I would say that at that point, yes, you could have done that, but I would say that in that, it is very common for people to experience in that manner that fright in relation to performance. And the reason is that you are all so very conditioned in not being enough, not being good enough.
SANDRA: Yes. And perfection is part of it.
ELIAS: And you reinforce that by comparisons. And therefore, when that is occurring, I would say that what can be very, very helpful to an individual at the time is to be recognizing that once again, this is false information that you aren’t good enough, that you are comparing yourself with other individuals that are better than you are or that can do whatever you are doing better than you do it. And in that, it isn’t about that. It isn’t about whether someone can do something better than you can; it is about you expressing you in your unique manner, that no one else can do what you do.
Let me express to you, in this, (chuckles) especially in relation to something such as singing, or voice of anything, I would say that this is an excellent, excellent example because no one else has the same voice as you. Therefore, there are many, many, many, many people—perhaps hundreds, perhaps thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people—that may all sing the same song, but every one of them will sing it differently because every one of them has different vocal chords, has different inflection, expresses differently, sounds differently. Therefore, it doesn’t matter how many people sing the same song, they will all sing it differently.
And that is something that is important to be reminded of, that whatever you are doing in relation to that, other people have done it also, and you may express that other people have sung a particular song better than you think you could ever sing it, but in that, they don’t have your voice.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
ELIAS: It is a matter of learning how to defuse comparisons, because that is what creates that paralyzing stage fright.
SANDRA: Right. Well, it was definitely paralyzing. (Laughs) I had a friend later on who said, years later she said, “Well, why didn’t you just take Xanax?” It didn’t even occur to me. (Laughs) Well, evidently I made a choice and I didn’t want to do it, or something. Whatever; it’s just interesting.
Another thing I was thinking about recently is the body consciousness, it’s an expression of overall consciousness. We direct it. We create the pain, the illness. We create our healing. And it is a matter of our objective self and our subjective self functioning in tandem; they work together. Yet it seems like when we wish to create healing, it is so difficult to do it. So there must be something other than choice. There’s something else involved that makes this so difficult for us. When we think we’ve made a choice for healing and it does not happen, there must be something more complicated about it. Are our beliefs so very strong that we just can’t overcome them intellectually? I guess that’s the question.
ELIAS: It’s not about your beliefs; it’s about what you believe, which is different, because what you believe is what you trust. That is important, and that is very strong. Therefore, even when you want something or you want to do something, you are correct, that may not always be enough, because it is also a matter of what you believe about that. Do you believe that you can? Do you believe you have the ability? Do you believe you are deserving? There are, yes, many different expressions that are influencing in relation to choice—and that is the point of becoming more self-aware. Therefore, then you CAN be intentionally choosing and be successful in doing so. I would say that in relation to healing, most people—not all, but most people—would say that they have something that is physically or emotionally or mentally disruptive and a dis-ease with them, [and] most people would express that they want to move in the direction of healing. That doesn’t necessarily mean that they believe that they can.
SANDRA: Yes. Because we don’t feel that we have the power.
ELIAS: Correct! Or you don’t perceive that you are actually creating all of your reality. An individual may very much believe that something else is creating their reality, that they are being attacked by some outside source: a virus, a bacteria, something, a germ, anything that is some type of organism that is outside of themself, that is outside of their body, and they believe that that something is creating part of their reality, that they aren’t creating that.
Now, in that, they may want to, and seek out, some type of healing expression, but in that, it is a matter of whether they believe that that will be successful. If they believe it will, it likely will. It also is a matter of whether they believe that they deserve that. Some people may continue to generate physical manifestations because they believe that is what they deserve. Or, some people may actually continue to create physical manifestations and not engage healing because they may believe that it is a nobler expression.
SANDRA: Oh, okay. Yeah. Hm.
ELIAS: To not be healed.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: Many individuals believe suffering is noble.
SANDRA: Yes. Yes. In regard to healing, there is a gentleman that has interested me for many years now who is still living here in the state of Washington by the name of Richard C. Bartlett. He has had a rather interesting life experience, and I’m wondering what you can tell me about Richard C. Bartlett that I haven’t read. I mean, he is doing some kinds of healings, and these people must invest power in him to do it, because he says he’s not healing them, they’re healing themselves.
ELIAS: That would be correct.
SANDRA: He does some very—
ELIAS: But it doesn’t matter. Let me say to you, my friend, that people move in the direction of healing in relation to trust, whether they put that trust in themself or in someone else, in a healer, in a physician, in a spiritualist, in anything. It doesn’t matter whether it’s God or whether it’s themself. Whatever it is, the key ingredient is that the individual genuinely trusts, without a doubt, this being or this expression or this direction of healing. And when an individual expresses trust without doubt, they definitely heal themself.
SANDRA: Oh. Interesting.
ELIAS: This is also what creates miracles.
SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
ELIAS: Miracles are not something that is so unusual. What it is, is it is an expression of trust in something that appears to be impossible. That is what constitutes a miracle—but nothing is impossible.
SANDRA: Yeah. Okay. Hm.
The time is almost up. I have one quick question and an interesting story, just for anyone who’s listening. I have a friend by the name of Santiago. He’s quite a bit younger than I am, and he and I are very good friends. And I’m just curious what his essence name is. And I will guess that his family is Sumafi. I don’t know what the alignment would be. Maybe even Zuli, I’m not sure.
ELIAS: You are correct in both.
SANDRA: Okay.
ELIAS: And essence name (pause): Briggatt (Bree-GOT) B-R-I-G-G-A-T-T.
SANDRA: Oh! (Chuckles) That’s interesting. Well, I will tell him. Okay. Fine. All right, my little story that I just want to share: Years ago when we got our essence names, Judy and I, hers was Mallya, mine was Yukyi. I was so disappointed because I was a musician and I thought I should have a melodic name. (Both laugh) And here’s Judy had the melodic name and I had this percussive-sounding name, and for many years I just was not happy with that. And then one day I was cooking or something at home, and all of a sudden it hit me, “Well, it’s very much me. I’m one of these sort of bursting-out, percussive type people. (Laughs) I just sort of throw my energy out there a lot.
JUDY: Yeah, you do.
SANDRA: And Judy is really a very nice, quiet and flowing-type person. And I thought well, there, our names are really…they really match. But I don’t know about Santiago and Briggatt. (All laugh) Anyway.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: I would express to you, my friend, that is an excellent story, and I would express that that is inspirational in your sharing. (Both laugh)
SANDRA: Yeah. Well, Sandra is a very creative person and a musical person, so she would catch on to those things. (Both laugh)
Well, it looks like our time is up now. So, we’ll be saying good-bye.
ELIAS: I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting, my dear friends. It is [inaudible] and exciting to engage in our conversations. (Chuckles)
SANDRA: Well, we appreciate that.
JUDY: We appreciate that. Thank you. Yes.
SANDRA: Yes. Thank you for your time, Elias. And of course, there is no time, is there! (Both laugh) We’ll blip that out. Okay. Well, we’ll say good-bye to you now. Thank you again.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall express tremendous, tremendous love to each of you. And you may offer my love to your friend also.
JUDY: Oh, thank you.
SANDRA: Susan will appreciate that. Thank you.
ELIAS: In wondrous encouragement and support to all of you, and in dear friendship, as always, au revoir.
SANDRA AND JUDY: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 2 hours 6 minutes)
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