Ukraine Nausea; Using Tarot; Elias' Energy, part 3; Sounds from within the Brain
Topics:
“A Shared Energy of Illness in Solidarity with Ukraine”
“Using Tarot Cards”
“Mingling With Elias’ Energy to Accomplish Objective Results”
"Breathing and Relaxing With Intention: A Routine Exercise As Blood Pressure Increases”
“A Deep Trance Energy Exchange”
“Developing Intuition With a Die Exercise”
Tuesday, March 1, 2022 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
NUNO: Good afternoon. How are you, my friend?
ELIAS: As always. And yourself?
NUNO: I’m doing well. I would like to start by asking you about my experience of a little over a week ago – it was a week from last Friday – and if you could tell me what happened there. It was a very intense experience.
ELIAS: Actually, you are the first individual to ask about this. Was your experience somewhat of disorientation, meaning dizziness and nausea? And some individuals did incorporate a headache, some did not, but everyone experienced nausea and somewhat of vertigo in being dizzy.
NUNO: Yes, that’s exactly what happened. I had attributed it to my essence exercises, but now I understand this is something else.
ELIAS: I agree. I would say that in this, did it not last but one day?
NUNO: It happened in the evening and I went to bed, and by morning I was much better.
ELIAS: Yes, that would be typical.
Now; what I would say is, in this it was a shared energy of solidarity, actually, that many, many, many, many people experienced. And in this, it was a precursor to what is happening now in your world.
NUNO: You’re referring to the war in Ukraine?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. Why does it only affect some people?
ELIAS: I would say that it was affecting of many people that are engaging what you term to be energy work, people that are more sensitive, people that are sensitive to energy expressions. And in that, that would be the people that would have been affected the most. There may have been many, many, many other people that were affected more slightly but that they wouldn’t have necessarily noted it; that they may have been affected in being slightly nauseated for a very brief amount of time, but they may not have actually noted that to themself, or if they had been asked later, they would have recognized that but, without any other information and not necessarily being aware of anybody else that was experiencing that, most people would have taken it in stride and would have likely thought that it had something to do with something that they ate.
NUNO: Yeah, I didn’t think that. I thought it had something to do with my exercises, but… Okay.
ELIAS: But it does, because if you had not BEEN engaging in that manner, you likely wouldn’t have experienced that in the intensity that you did. You likely would have experienced it in a manner that would be similar to what I described that many people likely DID experience but didn’t notice. But because you were engaging those energy exercises, that’s likely the reason that you did experience this in the intensity that you did.
NUNO: I understand. It’s a little disappointing. I thought that I would at least get some benefit out of all that.
ELIAS: I would say that you do. I would say that that is an indicator that you are moving in a significant direction with this energy work, and that in that, it is a situation in which you have moved to a new layer, in a manner of speaking; you might term it to be a new level.
NUNO: I could probably spend a lot of time on this, but I think there’s other things more of benefit to me. I’d like to talk about tarot, and I’ve been practicing a little bit with tarot cards. My impression is that generally I’ve been doing somewhat well with it, or I’ve been getting some information from it which I think on the whole is probably more correct than not. The thing I find with the tarot cards, though, is when we discussed this previously you said I should note aspects of the cards such as color and the location number and things like that, but now that I’ve worked with the cards for a little bit, I find what draws my attention the most is the scene that is depicted in the card. Whatever is going on in the card in terms of the person that’s in there or what is happening, that is what captures my attention, and what has the most significance when I draw a card is that.
The other thing I want to ask about also is, typically people use what they call a spread, and they lay the cards out with a certain pattern and then they turn the card over, and I’d like to know if that’s necessary. I’m in that habit of just shuffling the deck and after I cut the deck just start pulling cards out. Generally I only pull one card out, because I have difficulty connecting them together. The first card will be significant to me, will offer me information on my question in some manner, and then I don’t know how to proceed from there with the other cards. So if you could just give me some more information on how I should proceed on this, please?
ELIAS: I would say that for you, for now, that is adequate. Do you have to engage a spread? No, you don’t. Can you be pulling one card at a time in relation to a question? Absolutely. And it can be considerably beneficial.
I would say also that in relation to that, the factor that you are connecting to the picture is precisely what I was encouraging you with, that you pay attention to what stands out to you. Whether it be the colors, whether it be the theme, whether it be the people, whether it be the surroundings – whatever it is, something will speak to you individually. That is how you read the cards, and that is significant, because it's important for you to develop your method of how you read the cards and how they speak to you.
In this, if you are reading the card in relation to the picture, that is entirely fine. It is your method of how you are connecting with the cards, and in that, how you are intuitively in tune with the cards. Are you understanding?
NUNO: Yes, I am.
ELIAS: Excellent!
NUNO: And I’m wondering if other modalities would work as effectively for me. I’m thinking, What happens if I use an electronic device, for example, to present to me imagery of that kind, similar to the cards or something along those lines? Would something like that, with using an electronic device, would that have the potential to be equally effective, or not?
ELIAS: An electronic device such as a tablet?
NUNO: As a tablet or a computer, yes, something like that.
ELIAS: Will it be as effective? No. The reason being that part of what is happening when you are engaging with the cards is your sense of touch. You are engaging them physically and therefore, what you’re doing is you are using your intuitive energy to find that particular card in the deck, and that is what happens when you draw a particular card.
Now; why would that not be expressed the same with an electronic device, a tablet or a computer or your phone? Because there is the component of the electricity, first of all, or battery. And then, in addition to that, whatever device you would be using likely also connects to your internet, and that creates the availability of much more energy, and that changes it. Therefore, then when you pull a card, you aren’t only pulling a card in relation to your intuition and your energy.
NUNO: Okay. I understand. That’s fine. I can stay with the cards in that case.
I’ve been attempting to use your energy for regeneration, and I would like to ask how effective I’ve been in that.
ELIAS: I would say that you HAVE been effective in doing that, that it has increased your effectiveness in that direction.
NUNO: Okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: Congratulations!
NUNO: Thank you. That was kind of my impression, but I wanted to verify that.
I’d like to know how I can use your energy to help me achieve outcomes that are objective.
ELIAS: Outcomes that are objective in what?
NUNO: Well, anything, really. I don’t have a specific example, but if there was something I wanted to accomplish or experience objectively, I would like to use your energy to help me in that direction.
ELIAS: You can. (Loud, extensive dog barking) I would say that it definitely is available and that you can most definitely use my energy to aid you in that.
NUNO: Is there a process you can describe for that?
ELIAS: (Dog barking continues) I would say, you’re already familiar with manipulating energy and doing your energy exercises. I would say that in that, you could be focusing yourself on mingling and combining my energy with yours, and then after you do that to then focus on your objective and what direction you want to accomplish.
NUNO: So having mingled the energies, it would be then a matter of focusing my attention and concentrating on what I wish to accomplish; it’s simply a matter of attention. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. I would agree.
NUNO: Thank you.
I would like to know if you have any new information to offer me regarding my blood pressure.
ELIAS: (Dog barking continues) In relation to an alteration of it? It hasn’t altered much.
NUNO: No, not in terms of that; in terms of difficulties I have with it, which continue. We’ve talked about this, like, endlessly, and I understand that attention is obviously a strong component in that. Another component I feel is that my body consciousness is very sensitive to the whole subject and it gets triggered by attention, but it also gets triggered especially by fear of the blood pressure itself just because I happen to think about it, and then if I then generate a fear in connection with that, then that gives me quite a strong reaction.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: And also, if I’m engaging in some activity and I am getting a little bit irritated or frustrated, that that’s also a trigger for it.
ELIAS: Which we have discussed, and which I would agree that these are definitely very strong components in relation to that physical manifestation. You actually use that physical manifestation as a gauge, and in that, it’s a matter of you restructuring yourself to NOT be using it as a gauge and to move in the direction of genuinely paying attention and altering those expressions.
Now, what that means is, it doesn’t mean you re-form yourself into a robot. It means that you learn how to immediately manage what you’re doing. Therefore, when you begin to be stressed, or you begin to be irritated or frustrated, or you move in any of these directions that you know are a trigger for your blood pressure, to stop and then do something different. I would suggest that you develop some type of action that you can practice with until it becomes automatic, and therefore as soon as you are moving in a direction of any of these trigger actions that you would immediately begin to engage a different action that you have created as a routine action – therefore, the same action.
This is different than what I generally express to other individuals, in which I would be more inclined to encourage them to do different actions each time. But for THIS particular situation and manifestation, I would say it would be more beneficial for you to generate a particular action that is the same, that becomes routine, that you can do automatically, and therefore eventually you don’t have to think about that any more than you think about your blood pressure is rising because you are triggering it with these other expressions. I would say that of course, it could be any actions.
For you, I would suggest that it be an action that is somewhat in the direction of creating a brief breathing exercise that leads you into perhaps not a meditation but perhaps simply a relaxation with intention – that you’re not simply generating a breathing exercise, you’re not simply expressing a relaxation exercise, but that you are generating the breathing and then the relaxation with intention, and the intention is always the same. The intention is to entirely relax your circulatory system. (Pause) And you can actually mingle my energy with that also.
NUNO: That’s what I was about to say. I’ve actually been doing that – not exactly as you’ve described it, but I have been using your energy to aid me with that.
ELIAS: Excellent. I would say if you can develop a routine that then eventually becomes automatic, that will be very helpful. Because what you’re doing now, or what is happening now with the triggering of this physical manifestation, is routine. Therefore if you can counter that routine with a different routine, then eventually you can replace it.
NUNO: Thank you. I can work with that.
I had thought that as I progress with my essence exercises that these manifestations would eventually cease or decline. Is that an unrealistic expectation?
ELIAS: I would say it’s not that it’s unrealistic; it is unrealistic to assume that it’s automatic, because it isn’t. The factor that you are incorporating more of yourself as essence and essence energy into your physical focus doesn’t necessarily automatically mean that anything that you are physically manifesting in your focus will stop – it wouldn’t. That requires an intention.
Remember: You as essence are doing what, by physically manifesting in this reality? (Pause) You’re experiencing. Therefore, as essence, you don’t have necessarily a judgment about what you’re experiencing. You’re simply experiencing. And in that, all experiences are valuable. Therefore, the factor that you are moving in a direction of incorporating more and more essence energy into your physical focus doesn’t automatically change any physical manifestation.
NUNO: Well, what I had thought was that because I am becoming more self-aware and being able to… Or actually what I want to do is be able to direct the body consciousness more effectively.
ELIAS: I understand. And in that, that requires you doing some of these actions that we’ve been discussing, because it requires you being more attentive – not that you aren’t attentive to your body consciousness, but you’re attentive in manners that continue to create the very manifestations that you don’t want to. Therefore, it’s a matter of altering that intentionally – which you can do and you ARE doing, but it’s not something that simply automatically occurs. (Pause)
Because the body consciousness doesn’t think. It is reacting, in a manner of speaking, to whatever it is that you’re doing and how you’re instructing it. And with certain expressions such as irritation or stress or anxiety or frustration, [with] these expressions you don’t think about “I’m going to be stressed now;” you don’t think about “I’m going to be anxious now,” “I’m going to be frustrated now” – you react in certain situations in those expressions. And in that, when you react, then your body reacts in the manner that is familiar to it and what you have instructed it already, and therefore it simply continues to do that. Therefore it’s a matter of, in a manner of speaking, reprogramming yourself – which is what we have been discussing.
NUNO: Maybe I was being naïve. I expected that I would become more directly connected with the body consciousness. I AM the body consciousness. It is—
ELIAS: You will. You will! But you have to actively be engaging that. And in that, you WILL be more actively, intentionally interactive and directing of the body. But it also doesn’t automatically happen; you have to practice doing that. You have to practice directing your attention in relation to the body and what the body is doing. This is a complex mechanism, and in that, it is accustomed to certain expressions from you. And as long as you keep engaging those expressions, and you don’t have a different expression to counter it or to reprogram it, the body will continue to do what it does.
NUNO: I will work with that then.
I am wondering, I know we talked about this sometime in the past, about me engaging an energy exchange that is more similar to your energy exchange with Michael – in other words, one in which I am more or less unaware of what is occurring. In general people have a name for this; they call it a “deep trance energy exchange.” And this is of interest to me, because I feel that it’s what would well for me in terms of obtaining information.
ELIAS: Very well. And what is your query in relation to that?
NUNO: Where to begin?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say that I would encourage you to invite an essence. I would encourage you to invite a different essence, because you already have associations with Lawrence. Therefore, I would encourage you to invite a different essence to engage with you, and then I would express to begin engaging it through meditation, and in that, moving deeper and deeper into the meditation. The further you move into the meditation, the more likely you are to engage in the energy exchange in that trance state. Or, you can invite an essence to engage with you, and you can practice different methods of achieving certain states of being that are perhaps even beyond meditation, in actual trance state.
NUNO: And related to this, I was wondering: Why is it that I cannot achieve the same thing with myself?
ELIAS: With your own essence?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: You can!
NUNO: I mean, this seems the most direct. I mean especially since—
ELIAS: I would agree. I would definitely agree. You definitely can. And if that is the direction that you want to engage, I would be VERY encouraging of you.
NUNO: It IS a direction I want to go in, but I want that clarity that comes with what I think of as a quality energy exchange – you know, like you and Michael, like Seth had with Jane Roberts. That kind of clarity and quality comes from… I don’t know what. It comes from the type of the energy exchange, I guess. But it should be possible with myself.
ELIAS: It is. It definitely is, and I would encourage you in that direction, my friend.
NUNO: Okay, so if I was to go in that direction, then do you have any recommendations on how to proceed?
ELIAS: I would say that you can proceed in the same manner. You can generate the same procedure, the same action except that you’re not inviting another essence to engage with you, because it’s not necessary. And in that, then you are simply moving in the direction of directly engaging YOUR energy.
NUNO: And I could do this in a trance state, then?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. In that, I would suggest that you research different methods of engaging in that trance state, achieving that theta state. And in that, then it’s simply a matter of expressing an intention of what you want while you are engaged in that state, and also expressing that you want to include a clear recall.
NUNO: Just doing an audio recording wouldn’t be sufficient?
ELIAS: Yes! But I would express the encouragement to definitely be aware of expressing to yourself that once you are in that state and giving yourself information, that as you are coming out of that state that you want to include that objective recall of what you have experienced.
NUNO: Okay. I can do that. I think I should be able to do this in conjunction with the exercise I’m doing now. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes, I would agree.
NUNO: Thank you.
Recently, sometimes during my exercises I hear a sound within my head. And this is different from that humming sound in my ear, which I still get occasionally. But what it is, this one – and this only happens if I’m in what I think of as being a really strong state of connecting with my energy – and it’s kind of like a rapid beat, a rapid tapping sound, not quite tapping but it’s a beat. It’s maybe seven or eight times a second, something like that, and it seems to be originating from the center of my head. Can you say anything about this?
ELIAS: Yes. What you’re experiencing is the movement of your energy that is transmitting from yourself to your physical brain. That’s unusual.
NUNO: Well, doesn’t that happen all the time?
ELIAS: It’s unusual that you’re aware of it. It’s unusual that you hear it and that you are aware of that action occurring. Yes, it happens all the time, but I would say it’s very rare that anyone is aware of it, objectively.
NUNO: It seems that there is also a tone at the same time that is… It’s very slight, but there is a tone at the same time as well.
ELIAS: That, I would say, focus on. THAT is you. That’s, in a manner of speaking, your signature.
NUNO: Ah, okay. I was focusing on the tapping sound. Maybe I should be focusing on—
ELIAS: No. That is the activity. That is the action of transmitting your energy, your information, to your physical brain. And in that, the other sound is what to focus on because that’s your signature.
NUNO: I’m not sure of the frequency of the tone, but I would say it’s maybe 70, 80 hertz, something like that. Does that make sense?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. That’s interesting. I can use that then to help me. Is there anything else you can offer me on the subject of either the tarot cards or in engaging myself in a trance?
ELIAS: In relation to?
NUNO: You know, any additional information you can offer in how I can do that to be effective.
ELIAS: I would say, definitely practice with what we’ve been discussing in relation to placing yourself in that trance state. As for the tarot, I would say that that’s simply a focal point that obviously you can use objectively when you choose to. And in that, I would say that you’re engaging that well at this point and you don’t necessarily need more information about that.
NUNO: And there would be no advantage to engaging another essence, as opposed to engaging myself, in terms of my ability to access information?
ELIAS: I would definitely agree.
NUNO: It seems more natural to me to engage myself.
ELIAS: Most definitely, and I would agree.
Now, understand that there is a limit to that, because your physical body consciousness cannot support the entirety of your energy as essence – which is part of the reason why essences manifest many, many, many focuses, because the physical body consciousness cannot support the volume of energy that is expressed in relation to the fullness of essence. But you can move in a direction of engaging much more than you do.
NUNO: If I was to engage another essence, I would still have the same limitation?
ELIAS: Correct. Yes. That is—
NUNO: And I recall that a very long time ago you said that it was pointless to try and engage in an energy exchange with yourself. So, can you put that into context?
ELIAS: Because I have expressed quite pointedly that I have chosen to be engaging an energy exchange with Michael only. As long as Michael—
NUNO: No, no, no. I’m sorry. You misunderstood the question.
ELIAS: Continue.
NUNO: What I’m saying is, if I recall this correctly you expressed that there was no point in an individual engaging HIS essence as in an energy exchange.
ELIAS: It ISN’T an energy exchange, because it’s your energy. It’s not an energy exchange. You already (chuckles) have that energy. It’s your energy, and therefore it’s pointless to think of that or to engage it as if it were an energy exchange, because it’s not. Because it’s YOU. You’re not exchanging with something else or some other expression or being; you’re engaging more of the fullness of you. (Pause)
NUNO: Very well. I’ve been also doing an experiment with a die, a six-sided die, in which I kind of roll it in my hand and then put it down without me looking at it, and then I try and determine what number is on the top side.
ELIAS: That’s an excellent exercise.
NUNO: Okay. Except that I have had (laughs) very little success with it.
ELIAS: (Laughs) It’s an excellent exercise in relation to your intuition. And therefore, I would say that it’s something that you can genuinely practice in concentrating and tapping into the energy of the die, and then allowing the energy of the numbers to tell you what is the up-facing number.
NUNO: Oh, I understand. Yes. Yeah, well, I haven’t explicitly tried to tap into the energy of the die; I instead tried to visualize the number on the side.
ELIAS: I would say that that is likely much less successful, because then what you’re doing is, it’s a combination of guessing and attempting to express a form of telepathy – which, neither of those will likely be successful.
NUNO: Okay. That’s good information then on that. Thank you.
ELIAS: It is. Especially in relation to telepathy, which is… THAT is an action that is somewhat pointless. It’s so complicated that it would be so challenging to do in physical focus. Even nonphysically it’s very challenging, but in physical focus it’s (chuckles) extremely challenging, and it is somewhat ludicrous that people move in the direction of thinking that they can simply engage telepathy as easily as guessing, which is not the case. (Chuckles)
NUNO: Ah. Well, that’s good information for me to work with then.
Okay, do you have any suggestions or comments regarding my essence energy exercises?
ELIAS: I would say that they are moving well at this point, and if you expand that somewhat and use it in relation to moving into that trance state, I would say it could be very beneficial.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
NUNO: Then I will work with that.
ELIAS: Excellent!
NUNO: And I want to thank you for your time and your assistance to me. I get the impression that sometimes when I am becoming a little frustrated or something that you send me a signal?
ELIAS: You are correct.
NUNO: I would ask that you please continue to do that. I’ve been not good with heeding those signals, but I would ask that you please continue if you can.
ELIAS: Very well, I shall. And I would be very, very encouraging of you in connecting with that, because in relation to what we have discussed this day, that may also be helpful to you in relation to creating that new routine and that new automatic expression and therefore replacing the old with the new and affecting of the physical manifestation more.
NUNO: Very well. Yes.
ELIAS: I shall definitely continue.
NUNO: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I express tremendous, tremendous love and supportiveness to you and shall be anticipating our next meeting, and your progress and success. (Chuckles)
In exquisite love to you as always, and tremendous affection, my dear friend, au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour)
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