Expressing Enough and What You're Doing Now Creates the Future
Topics:
“Changing Not Enough into Enough”
“You Don’t Have to Believe It”
“All the Things You Do Now Shape the Future”
“The Influences of Past Trauma”
“Effective Meditation”
“Dollar in a Container Exercise”
“Tools Learned from Parents Do Not Always Benefit You”
Wednesday, April 20, 2022 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jason (Posha)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JASON: Hi.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we begin, my friend?
JASON: Well, it’s good to chat with you. This is a session that was scheduled almost two years ago. It’s finally happening. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I would say there is timing for everything.
JASON: It really is. And you know, there were some frustrating moments, but I understand that timing is everything really, so I’m grateful.
ELIAS: I agree.
JASON: The first thing—
ELIAS: And now—
JASON: Yeah?
ELIAS: Now that the timing is here, what would you say is the most important factor at this point?
JASON: The most important factor in the timing of the session?
ELIAS: In your life.
JASON: Well, it’s interesting because over the last couple of days I have been really noticing how much I have been paying attention to not enough.
ELIAS: Ah!
JASON: It is almost like a full-time job (laughs), noticing (both laugh) how many directions.
ELIAS: That is an excellent description, my friend. (Both laugh)
JASON: It really is. (Both laugh) I have been so aware of every direction that I have been paying attention to this, this concentration. I guess that’s what more of it is, in not enough. It could be not enough satisfaction, not enough attention, not enough love, not enough money, not enough time. It’s just… It’s so pervasive that I’ve had this thought. I was like, “Will I ever get to the end of this? Will I ever get to that point where I’m paying attention to enough?” I have been intentionally trying to pay more attention to enough. Like the other day—
ELIAS: That, that is the point. Even though the other is automatic, it’s a matter of intentionally paying attention to enough until that becomes automatic.
JASON: Yes. And I have noticed—
ELIAS: Because you didn’t begin with that. You didn’t begin with thinking and feeling not enough in relation to everything. You learned to do that.
JASON: Yeah. Like the other day, I went to the library and I was like, “Oh, I’m going to go journal at the library.” So I got my journal, I got a pen, put my jacket on and then I went outside and I was like, “You know what? I have enough ink in my pen. I have enough pages in my journal. I have enough warmth with my jacket and my shirt. I have enough oxygen in the air.” And I was really being intentional about noticing.
ELIAS: That is tremendous.
JASON: I mean, it felt a little bit like not significant, you know? But I was doing it anyway. And it’s been challenging (both laugh) to say the least, but… (laughs).
ELIAS: It IS, it is significant even though it feels that it isn’t. Remember: feelings are simply signals to alert you to what you’re doing. Therefore, when you FEEL that that’s insignificant, that’s simply a signal telling you that you don’t necessarily believe what you are telling yourself in the moment. But it doesn’t matter. You don’t have to.
JASON: Yeah.
ELIAS: Because eventually you will.
JASON: Yeah. It’s starting to change. I’m starting to notice a bit of a shift.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
JASON: Well, the thing that kind of prompted all of this was about three years ago, I had left the company that I was at and I didn’t have a job. And I had money saved up and then I went through that, and then I created some more money and then I went through that, and then I created some more money, and then I went through that. And for the last three years, I haven’t been working. I haven’t had like a job at a company, so to speak, but I’ve been creating money regardless. And so recently I had this program that I was a part of that was, I was generating money through that, and they told me that I could extend this program and they gave me a due date. And so I went to fill the application out by the due date but it was a couple of days prior to the due date and when I went to do that, I couldn’t complete the application. So I called them. They told me that I had missed another due date. So now I don’t have an income, and I’m kind of wondering how I’m going to pay that rent and, you know, all these other things.
But I’ve created money so many other times that I feel like I’ll do it again. I’ll create some other avenue. But I want to create more of an abundance, where it’s not this kind of paycheck to paycheck situation and I’d just have more security. And I know it’s totally tied to this whole not enough thing. That’s why I know the missing the deadline for that application wasn’t an accident. I knew I intentionally did that, because it put me in this direction of noticing these other things. I think if I had gotten that money, it would have made me more complacent and I wouldn’t have looked at these things with more awareness.
ELIAS: I understand.
JASON: Yeah. So… But I mean, what do you have to say about that?
ELIAS: What I would say first of all is: what is important to you? What do you enjoy? What do you genuinely love to do? How would you answer those questions, first?
JASON: I would say I love DJing and I have been generating money DJing, over the last couple years, and that’s been beneficial. And at the same time, it’s not very lucrative, at least it hasn’t been for me. And so I just really appreciate music. I love connecting with the people on the dance floor. I love the creative aspect of it. Yeah. I just… Music, DJing, that’s what I would say I’m genuinely passionate about.
ELIAS: Very well. And what I would say to you is: if music and doing this particular aspect of engaging music, being a DJ, is what you genuinely love and you are genuinely passionate about it and you enjoy that, then I would express to you all the more reason to be intentionally moving in this direction of enough.
Now; let me say to you something slightly different, that this direction of enough isn’t only about having enough. It’s also about expressing to yourself that, in a manner of speaking, you’re fed up with certain directions, certain choices, certain behaviors, certain actions and you’ve had enough of that also. Do you understand?
JASON: I do. Is there a direction you’re referring to more specifically?
ELIAS: I would say YOU have said yourself that you are creating a certain direction that you seem to always have enough of what you need, that you create enough in a time framework to manage what your needs are, but that you don’t seem to create more than that.
Now; what that is, that’s surviving. And what I would say to you is, have you had enough of simply surviving?
JASON: (Laughs) I have. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Ah! That is part of it, is also moving in the direction of enough and being done with something.
JASON: Yeah.
ELIAS: Sometimes enough is also important to express in relation to what you’ve had enough of, and what you are moving beyond.
JASON: So, let me ask you this. Would continuing to pay attention to what is enough be enough to alter that?
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: But it’s also a matter of being proactive. You can’t simply think. Thinking doesn’t create your reality. Therefore you also have to DO in relation to the expression of enough. Therefore it’s a matter of also enacting what is enough.
JASON: Yeah. That’s been—
ELIAS: I would say to you, let me give you a hypothetical example.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Let’s use a simple example. Let’s say that you’re looking in your pantry and you’re assessing what you have in your present stores and you’re expressing to yourself initially, “I don’t enough to make dinner.” And in that, you look in your refrigerator, you look in your pantry, you express, “I don’t have enough noodles to make anything. I don’t have enough eggs to make anything. I just don’t have enough of anything to be making anything substantial for my dinner.”
And in that, you can move in that direction and what will you do? You will reinforce the not enough and you will perpetuate that in everything, OR you can catch yourself and you can recognize that you were beginning to move in that direction, and then you can be creative with what you have. Instead of grudgingly going out to the supermarket and buying something that will suffice for your supper, when you will genuinely grudgingly do it – because the entire distance to the supermarket you’re expressing to yourself that you don’t have enough money to do this, but you have to — OR you could stand in front of your refrigerator and you could stand in front of your pantry and you could look at what you have and you could think to yourself, “How can I put these things together and create something that I will enjoy?” and do it.
You caught yourself in that thinking of not enough. You turned it to expressing to yourself that you have enough, but then you also reinforce it with an action of being creative and DOING something that is enough but is beyond enough, something that you enjoy.
JASON: I noticed that – and I hear what you’re saying. I think what’s underlying that, though, is that I’m aware that the reason I’m doing that creative action is because I’m not satisfied with my signages. Like there’s not enough satisfaction or not enough material—
ELIAS: Yes! Precisely. Precisely. But that’s the point, my friend, is that those actions, that energy ripples out. And what I’m saying to you is, you don’t have to believe it initially. You WILL believe it naturally eventually, because you will show yourself that you CAN believe it. And in that, the more times you generate those actions – you won’t necessarily see the link. Eventually you will, but for a time you likely won’t see the link between creatively putting something together for your supper that you actually do enjoy and someone approaching you and expressing to you, “I need a DJ.” (Jason laughs) You won’t think that creatively generating that supper that evening had anything to do with that person coming to you, but it did.
JASON: Yeah.
ELIAS: All the things you do in the present shape the future. Not something ten years from now, but the future two hours from now or tomorrow or next week. All the things you do now shape what you create in the future. That should be your mantra, because it is entirely true.
JASON: Yeah. It’s interesting, because one of the things that I have been confused about is, you were talking about do, take an action, do something. And that’s another thing that I always kind of had this underlying perception of, is I’m not doing enough. But even when I DO do something, that it’s still—
ELIAS: Not enough.
JASON: That there’s always more.
ELIAS: I know. That whatever you do, it doesn’t matter because it’s not enough.
JASON: Right.
ELIAS: But that will change. That, my friend, is you have come to believe not enough, and believing is the same thing as trusting. Therefore, you have come to trust not enough. And now it’s a matter of learning how to trust enough. And how do you do that? You do that through repetition. Because that’s what brought you to this point of trusting not enough, having that repeatedly reinforced. Now it’s a matter of intentionally moving in a direction of repeatedly reinforcing what IS enough, even when you don’t believe it.
And I know that you don’t believe it, because you’re looking at something different. Therefore you don’t credit yourself with that being true and that you can trust that in the moment, that yes you have enough ink, yes you have enough paper, yes you have a jacket that keeps you warm and you have enough time to go to the library and to engage your journal. But that doesn’t matter, because even though you have enough of all of that, you don’t have enough money and you don’t have enough of this and that and everything else.
JASON: Right.
ELIAS: Therefore, you’re still expressing that it’s not enough because it doesn’t matter. But in that, what I’m expressing to you is: do it anyway. Tell yourself anyway. Do the actions anyway. Because it doesn’t actually take a considerably long time before you begin to see that it IS enough, whatever it is, and that you DO have enough, and that worrying or fretting about not enough is simply a state of mind.
JASON: I feel like I’ve started to notice that, even when this person told me I couldn’t apply for this extension, it was like I didn’t panic about it. It was like I feel like I said, I had enough times when I went through the money that I had and then I created something else. That there is a degree of trust that I have that I’ll come through again.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
JASON: But it’s like… I think it’s just the fatigue of that pattern.
ELIAS: And it’s shaky. And I understand that you do recognize that this is something that you’ll do. But in that also, it’s a matter of what I expressed to you, moving to the point of also telling yourself, and it’s enough, moving in the direction of only surviving: “I want more.”
JASON: Yeah. I think that part of that comes from my childhood and how I never got enough attention from my parents. I never got enough feeling like I’m loved. And so it’s like I grew up with this whole idea that it’s like I can’t have enough. I can’t get enough. There isn’t enough for me.
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: So that was something else I wanted to ask you. Do I have any like repressed memories? Because I feel like I’ve done a lot of work on working on past trauma, but is there anything else that is still there?
ELIAS: No. I would say that what is there is all the influences of it.
JASON: Yeah.
ELIAS: And now having to address to all of that. Everything that generates trauma creates many influences that affect your life because they affect your behavior and your choices. And in that, it’s a matter of looking at what behaviors you have created in relation to those traumas to compensate. What have you done and what have you created to move in a direction of making whatever the trauma was less? It doesn’t, but that’s the motivation.
JASON: Right. So what…? Yeah?
ELIAS: But it does affect your choices and your behaviors. And in that, then it’s a matter of looking at that and then moving in a direction of making different choices whenever you notice what you’re doing.
JASON: Yes.
ELIAS: And that can be challenging, because even when you notice, those influences are so ingrained that you believe them.
JASON: So what would you say is the most strongest influence that I’m acting out of now?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say for you the strongest influence at this point is that you’ve come as far as you possibly can.
JASON: Mm. (Pause)
ELIAS: And that’s a big not enough.
JASON: (Laughs) Yeah, I can definitely feel that. I think that it’s… I think like again with the whole parental stuff, it’s like I knew that I’m not creating people’s choices. I had needs as a kid that they weren’t really meeting or that they were neglecting, and so it’s like that really influenced my sense of my own power.
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: And you’re right. I mean, it’s like you know when you said part of enough is acknowledging I’ve had enough of this. It’s like part of me doesn’t feel like I’m powerful enough to say that. I can say it, but does that mean that I believe that I have that power to actually make that assessment, that determination, and then things actually change? No. At least not right now.
ELIAS: THAT is the point. Not right now. And that is acceptable. You don’t have to believe it right now, but you will.
JASON: So what is…? So would you say continuing to focus and pay attention to enough would be adequate to shift that idea that I’ve gone as far as I can?
ELIAS: That will be a tremendous beginning, and if you couple that with actions, yes, it will change that perception. And I would also say that it would be very helpful to center yourself every day and to be intentional. Therefore, I would say to you, I would very much encourage you to be engaging the exercise of “Who do I want to be today?” and do that every day.
JASON: I’ve done… I’ve started doing that. I’ve done that a couple times. I mean, I’m not consistent. There were a few days last week where I was doing that. And one day I woke up and I asked myself that, and I was like, “I want to be… No. I want to be…” or you know, I said “I want to be abundant” one day, “I want to be—
ELIAS: No, no, no, no, no!
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Now; let me say to you, no, don’t use words such as enough or abundant.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Those types of words are not going to move you in the direction that you want to move in. I would say it is important to use doing words.
JASON: Doing words, okay.
ELIAS: Yes. “I want to be fun today.” “I want to be listening today.” “I want to be—
JASON: (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: — “sharing today.”
Now; and understand, whatever the word is that you choose, it doesn’t simply apply to other people that you engage. These are words that are moving your attention in the opposite direction, seemingly, of what I usually would instruct you to do. Usually I would tell you to very much be paying attention to you. These are actions and this is an exercise that is specifically geared for you to pay attention to everything outside of you, and how YOU are affecting it by who you are being today. Therefore, you are affecting your life, your environment and everything in it. And in that, it applies very literally to everything. You can express, “I want to be kind today.” You can be kind to a chair.
JASON: (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: You don’t have to only be kind to a person, and these are not words that you are applying to you. Therefore, it’s not “I want to be kind to me today.” No. YOU are not in the equation except in relation to how you are presenting yourself to everything you encounter, because the point of this is how do YOU affect your world. In that, this exercise is very much in the direction of empowering you and helping you to see that you do affect your world, you DO create your reality, and you ARE the one that is directing.
Now; in that, as I expressed, you can be kind to a chair. You can be kind to the floor. You can be kind to your dishes or your sink (Jason laughs) or your clothes. You can be kind to everything in your environment.
If your word is, “I want to be listening today,” you can listen to everything in your environment. In that, it’s a matter of being present, engaging and recognizing how you are affecting everything. I would suggest that you diligently do this exercise every day.
JASON: Okay. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would have expressed to you that I would have advocated that you meditate and center yourself, but I’m also aware that you won’t do it.
JASON: (Laughs) Not because (inaudible) (Laughs)
ELIAS: Therefore, this is something that you will do, and I would say that this is a method that can be very instrumental in centering yourself also.
JASON: Well, let me ask you this: why is it so hard for me to meditate? Because I do have stretches where I’ll do it for a few days, but then… Well, maybe even like two weeks or so, but then it’s like I kind of back off of it.
ELIAS: Because you don’t actually see what the benefit is. You’re not actually focused, and therefore you’re not moving in a direction in which you actually see any benefit to it at all.
JASON: Well, it’s like… Let’s say I were to start a consistent meditation practice, how long would you recommend that I sit for?
ELIAS: Meditating isn’t simply sitting and being quiet.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Meditation is about an intention. That’s the reason that I’ve given you this exercise, because you can actually do it and you will see how it affects you and how it benefits you.
Now; eventually I would advocate that you engage meditation and in the same manner. That this is what the point of meditation is. It’s to be able to center yourself and empower yourself AND accomplish something. You don’t simply—
JASON: So, with— Yes?
ELIAS: You aren’t simply being quiet. But eventually, when you are ready to engage meditation, then I would say that I would encourage you to begin with ten minutes, and then when you can successfully accomplish ten minutes, to move to fifteen minutes, and to increase it by five minutes each time you are successfully accomplishing.
JASON: But what is…? You’re saying it’s about your intention. But what would be – not that you’d need to tell me what my intention should be – but like what would be an intention, if somebody was going to sit down and meditate?
ELIAS: Very well.
JASON: (Inaudible)
ELIAS: No, it’s not about simply being quiet. (Chuckles)
JASON: Okay. That’s what I’ve learned though. That’s what people have taught me, told me.
ELIAS: I understand, because people are uninformed and they don’t know. But in this, it can be an intention of empowering yourself in a particular direction. Let us say you want to be more effective in your job, and you want to move forward and accomplish more with your job. This is a hypothetical. And in that, you are meditating to center yourself and to create an action of an influence. Or you could be expressing an intention of you want to direct your energy outward to be expressing more harmony and more cooperation in your community or between your friends, or you want to do something to project energy beyond that. It could be anything, but you don’t simply incorporate mediation to simply be quiet.
JASON: So while you’re meditating, what are you… not supposed to be doing… I mean, are you just sitting there being quiet or are you actually visualizing these things, or are you imagining this stuff?
ELIAS: It can be. You can be visualizing. Many people set an intention and then move in a direction of being directing of their energy. Therefore, becoming more and more aware of your energy.
Now; in that, that to some degree does require you to be quiet, in a manner of speaking, because it requires you to pay attention to your energy, and what is your energy doing? And in that, being able to direct it intentionally. Therefore, even simply becoming aware of what your energy IS, is a part of it.
JASON: And I can set that as an intention initially, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: Just to become more familiar with it?
ELIAS: Most definitely. Absolutely. I would say that that would be an excellent beginning intention, to simply be aware of what your energy is, and then what is it doing?
JASON: Yeah. Okay. Well, like I said, I’ll try the “What do I want to be?” exercise first. (Laughs) And then I’ll meditate.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. I would definitely advocate in that direction, and encourage you to continue to do that until it’s automatic, until you do it every day without thinking about it.
JASON: How long would… Obviously, this… I wanted a crystal ball question, but it’s like if I were consistent with that exercise, for it to become automatic, like roughly how long would that take? Again, if I were consistent?
ELIAS: I would say if you were consistent, and you were doing that every day, it would begin to be automatic within (pause) probably a month to two months.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Which is a very short amount of time. I would also say that you can experiment with this action –and this is something that is, also would become automatic, within I would say approximately a month – is every time you go out of your home, every time you go to purchase anything, it doesn’t matter what it is, or any time you are spending money, let us say, that could be putting money in a parking meter. It doesn’t matter what it is. Anytime money is going out of your pocket, when you return home, for every time that you put money out of your pocket, you put one dollar in a jar.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: Or a shoebox or some type of container. Something that has a lid. And you are not allowed to take anything out of that container. Anything that goes into that container is now glued to the container. (Jason laughs) It won’t be removed. It’s now glued in there.
Now; in that, every time you put that one dollar in the container, you say to yourself – and this is going to sound silly to you, but it won’t after a month – you say to yourself, “I’m worth it and I can do whatever I choose.”
JASON: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: And that will sound silly to you when you are initially placing those one dollars into your container, but within a month it will be so automatic that you put the dollars into the container, and it will be so automatic that you say that to yourself, you won’t even have to say it to yourself, you’ll already believe it.
JASON: Mm-hm. I feel like this whole like (inaudible) thing is like, I don’t see the last piece. I feel like I’m really satisfied with myself in a lot of other areas, and that this is kind of the part of my life that I’ve been the most dissatisfied with.
ELIAS: I understand.
JASON: Yeah, so I’m grateful that you’re offering these exercises to help with it. Because I feel like—
ELIAS: This one with the money will also be very significant also, because you will discover that you are placing many dollars into that container. You can’t open that container and remove any of those dollars until you have been engaging this exercise for two months. Then you can take out all the dollars and count them. And if you so choose at that time, then you can take all the dollars, after you count them, and you can use them to engage something that makes you happy.
JASON: Yeah. Well, let me ask you this. What is it that I believe about money that’s made it so challenging?
ELIAS: It’s not what you believe about money. (Laughs) It’s what you believe about you.
JASON: That I’m not worth it.
ELIAS: And that you can’t do it, and you have limitations, and that everything about you is not enough, and that you are surviving and that when you are surviving, you can’t move past that. You can only keep surviving. It’s a matter of having enough of that survival mentality and allowing yourself to move beyond it. That is a gate that has a very large stop sign on it. (Jason laughs) (Inaudible) It simply has a very large stop sign.
JASON: Yeah. But I don’t like—
ELIAS: (Inaudible) stop in front of that gate.
JASON: Yeah. Part of me feels like it’s not about earning or acquisition, so to speak. It’s about allowance.
ELIAS: Yes. It is. That is the truth.
JASON: Because like I say, I haven’t worked the last three years and yet I’ve still maintained, you know—
ELIAS: You’re still here.
JASON: Yeah. I’m surviving, you know, but it’s like (Elias laughs) I can allow more.
ELIAS: Yes. And you—
JASON: But I have been (inaudible).
ELIAS: And you’ve learned. And now you can take the next step.
JASON: Yep. What would you say is my greatest gift?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say that your greatest gift is (pause) feeling, in relation to other people. That could at times be translated into compassion, but it’s not only compassion because many times it’s feeling with other people what they’re feeling. It isn’t taking on other people’s feelings. This is different. This is simply feeling with them, similar to singing a song with someone, that you can sing with them. You have a gift for feeling with them. This is the reason that you like to be a DJ, because you like to feel with the people when they’re dancing.
JASON: Yeah. That is very true. That is very true and it’s why I’m a great DJ, too. I mean I have had some experiences recently. (Chuckles) These two guys came up to me. I was at a party and they had been listening to my music for a while and they just were… I felt like a celebrity, you know, they just came up and they were so like excited and giddy to meet me, and (chuckles) it was… I really am passionate about it. And yeah, I do, I think that’s what people sense when I’m playing, is that I’m paying attention to the general feeling of the space and—
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: — playing music that moves with that.
ELIAS: Precisely. And I agree, and I would express to you to genuinely listen to what you said, that you ARE good at it, and to credit yourself.
JASON: Mm-hm. Yeah. Something I was curious about is, why was my father so distant when I was younger? Like emotionally. He never came out to support me in my events and stuff like that. He just always felt very far away. I mean, I know he was physically away because my parents divorced, but there was something else going on, and I always question how he felt about me.
ELIAS: It’s not a matter of what he felt about you. It’s more a matter of what he felt about himself, that he (sighs) wasn’t good at that role. He wasn’t good at the role of being a parent or a father. But he also has the perception that he’s not good at almost any role, and therefore he has somewhat of a defeatist attitude.
JASON: Would you say that’s where I picked that up from? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Yes.
JASON: Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: What you learn from your parents are not always the tools that help you or that benefit you.
JASON: Yeah. But I sense now that he… Does he regret that, that he wasn’t really involved or that he kind of neglected my needs? Because I feel like he has wanted to have more of a relationship, but he’s also not very open or receptive to it too, at the same time.
ELIAS: And that’s because, the reason he’s not forthcoming is because yes, does he want to have a relationship? Yes. Does he believe that he necessarily can? Not entirely. And he cannot engage with any expectations, because he incorporates the perception that he is not capable of fulfilling the expectations.
JASON: By expectations, you mean like the expectations that I would or had of him in relation to him showing up for me?
ELIAS: Yes.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
JASON: Like he believes he can’t do that?
ELIAS: Correct.
JASON: And so that kind of keeps him at bay?
ELIAS: Correct. He does not believe that he can accomplish much. His perception of himself is (pause) considerably low.
JASON: Yeah.
ELIAS: And I would say that he too is very much in the modality of surviving, and that he can’t do anything more than that.
JASON: Yeah. Yeah, I definitely get that from him. Yeah. But I heard that timer, so I just… There were two or three questions I just wanted to ask you quickly. One is, what is your general sense of my health?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say generally it is adequate.
JASON: Okay. Is there anything I can do to improve that?
ELIAS: Yes. I would say more movement, and pay attention to your diet.
JASON: And pay attention in relation to what aspects of it?
ELIAS: Pay attention to the engaging as much as possible more whole foods.
JASON: Okay.
ELIAS: I would also express an encouragement to be consuming at least three liters of water per day.
JASON: Ah! I’ve been doing that. Sometimes more.
ELIAS: Excellent.
JASON: Yeah. What would you say is my gender ratio of male to female energy?
ELIAS: And your impression?
JASON: I would probably say like 60% male, 40% female.
ELIAS: I’d say slightly more male.
JASON: Yeah. Like maybe like 65, 70?
ELIAS: Yes. Approximately 65%. Now—
JASON: Okay. So like two-thirds. And is there any crystal that you would recommend that I work with now to help with all the things that we discussed?
ELIAS: (Pause) An amethyst.
JASON: Okay. And how would I…? What do you recommend as far as how to engage that to be most beneficial?
ELIAS: I would say simply by having it present.
JASON: Okay. And what would that do? How would that be helpful?
ELIAS: It will help to enhance and amplify your energy, which will help you to be more aware of it.
JASON: Okay. And what are some qualities in a compatible partner for me?
ELIAS: Repeat.
JASON: What are some qualities in a compatible romantic partner?
ELIAS: In THAT I would say, pay attention to you and then you can assess relatively easily what is a complement to you. A complement is something that is precisely that: it complements you. It doesn’t have to be the same as you, but that it will flow with you easily. That is a complement and that is what is the most important in association with a romantic partner.
JASON: Yeah. So, one more. I was told that my birth time was 8:17 a.m. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: One moment. (Pause) 8:15 point 16.
JASON: Okay. And one thing else actually, what is my mother’s birth time?
ELIAS: And that was?
JASON: I don’t know. She said that she was born in the morning, probably like around six a.m., but she doesn’t, can’t be exact.
ELIAS: (Laughs) No. That was actually just prior to dawn. That would be (pause) 5:34 point 23.
JASON: Okay. Okay. I guess one more. What was my father’s birth time? He doesn’t know either, but I was curious about that.
ELIAS: (Pause) 7:26 point 4.
JOHN: A.m. or p.m.?
ELIAS: P.m.
JASON: P.m. Okay. 7:26 point 4 p.m. Okay. Well, thank you so much for this conversation.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall anticipate our next meeting and I shall be offering my energy to you continuously in encouragement and support.
JASON: Thank you. I appreciate that.
ELIAS: In dear friendship and comfort and exceptional love, au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 7 minutes)
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