3I/ATLAS Alien Spacecraft
Topics:
“Unlimited Choices”
“3I/ATLAS Alien Spacecraft”
“Time Travel Progress”
“Thinking A.I.”
Saturday, January 3, 2026 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Paul (Paneus)
ELIAS: Good morning!
PAUL: Good morning, Elias. (Elias chuckles) How is your day doing? Now you hang in what? Regional Area Three? Or is that Four?
ELIAS: Five.
PAUL: Five. Now I have a question, because I was thinking about the regional areas the other day and I was wondering. Do…? Because you said I think in the past that you don’t have any more focuses.
ELIAS: Correct.
PAUL: But you could create a focus, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Well, why haven’t you?
ELIAS: Because I choose not to.
PAUL: Is that choice because you are comfortable with all of the experiences you’ve obtained?
ELIAS: Yes. And I’m doing this instead. (Pause) Speaking to you.
PAUL: If… So I don’t want to get into too much of a discussion on this, but I want to fill my curiosity. So if I have a situation where I pass on and I move into essence or align with essence, do I…? What…? Do I just hang out in that Regional Area Three or Four Region and just chill out and understand what’s going on with all my focuses and stuff like that? Or is there…?
ELIAS: No. You have unlimited choices. You can explore many different areas of consciousness. You can move in a direction of different regional areas of consciousness. You can move into unexplored other dimensions. There are endless options that you can be engaging.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: And you will choose one.
PAUL: Okay. Because originally I was mistaken. I think I talked to you about this months ago. I was originally thinking that our intention was to shift into another focus of attention, and that’s really not what goes on because all your focuses are all in the now.
ELIAS: Correct.
PAUL: Yeah. Interesting. It’s almost like heaven then, right? You’ve got all these unlimited choices to explore and experience, right?
ELIAS: If you wish to think of it in that manner, yes.
PAUL: (Laughs) I don’t know. I just was trying to characterize it. Okay. Let’s get through some questions and I might circle back with that one again.
SoFi Technologies stock that you and I talked about on a couple of occasions, is that still on a path to hit sixty dollars a share by this spring?
ELIAS: At this point, yes.
PAUL: Okay. Would it be advisable…? Well, I don’t know if I feel comfortable buying any more shares, because I did buy some additional shares, and I don’t want to get too risk heavy.
ELIAS: I’d say what you’ve done at this point is enough.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. Okay, so I’m planning to get out some time before it hits sixty because I… I think my expiration is June. So I think some time when it gets… It’s at thirty, roughly twenty-eight dollars right now, roughly, and they’re supposed to be coming out with some favorable… Is their earnings report going to be real favorable? It’s coming out in January, end of January.
ELIAS: (Pause) Likely.
PAUL: I’m not sure what that means. Like it’s going to be real favorable?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. Well, let’s talk about… Let’s talk about 3I/ATLAS for a second. That probe that zipped by in our solar system, is that…? First of all, is the life forms that made that probe…? I keep thinking it’s a lifeform that is closer to, that we would characterize as a plant compared to an animal. Is that a good characterization of that lifeform?
ELIAS: Mm. (Pause) In a manner of speaking, in relation to your comparisons, I would say yes.
PAUL: Is that probe then…? I got the impression it was one being, if you will, of a form of a being, that was on that probe currently.
ELIAS: No. It has a very limited, what you might term to be as a crew, but there is more than one. There are four.
PAUL: Oh! Interesting. And are they going to just pass? They’re just exploring, they’re just going to pass through our solar system? Or are they going to…? Like some people are saying that they could see them or see that object hanging out in our solar system and not leaving our solar system. Is the intent to leave it, because it’s done exploring?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. So it’s on its way out then. Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. And I think I heard you say that the government is aware that it’s likely a probe of some type?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Yeah.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Does NASA…? I’m assuming NASA also is aware of that and they’re just not releasing the findings?
ELIAS: Correct. I would say yes, you are correct with that.
PAUL: Hm. Interesting. Hey, I’ve been taking a cholesterol medication, but I decided to reduce. Instead of ten milligrams every day, I think I reduced it down to ten milligrams every… basically four times a week. Is that okay?
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: Well, is that okay in your eyes?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Or should I reduce it more?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. No. Give yourself time.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. I talked to my boss a couple weeks ago, just a general like, “Hey, how’s my career path going?” and he basically said, “Keep on doing your A.I. stuff and doing what you’re doing with the product management team and keep on going.” And I was kind of just being very, very indirect, seeing if he would share a perspective of promotion with me and he didn’t offer that, but I think I got his… He’s a very smart guy, so I think he’s aware that I might be interested in a promotion. Is he already planning to promote me this year?
ELIAS: (Pause) He doesn’t have a plan yet.
PAUL: Okay. The reason I’m asking is there is a position – and I want to talk to you about this – that just came up a few weeks ago, for an A.I. Director reporting to this one guy that I’ve dealt with on occasion. He’s okay. He’s not a great guy, but he’s okay. But it would get me plugged into more of a fulltime focus with A.I. development activity. What do you think? Two questions. What do you think about that as a… how that aligns with me? And do you think I would get the opportunity to get the job? Or do they already have somebody they really like in mind?
ELIAS: (Pause) I’d say that you have a good opportunity to get that job but I would say if you want to move in that direction, to keep this job—
PAUL: Oh, keep my—
ELIAS: — until you know. Yes, because it’s in a volatile state. Therefore keep this job until you know certainly.
PAUL: Okay. So don’t apply for that other role?
ELIAS: No. I am saying apply for it, but don’t give up your present role for that until you are certain that you are accepted.
PAUL: Oh! Well that… They’re… It’s within the same company, same division.
ELIAS: I understand, but don’t move in a direction of expressing that you want to give up this role until you’re certain that they will seriously engage you for the other. Do you understand?
PAUL: So I think I do, and I’ll rephrase it for understanding. You’re saying… Well, I’m planning to have an exploratory talk with the hiring senior director next week, just exploratory, not a formal interview, and kind of feel him out to see what his level of interests are and what he thinks, and maybe I’ll get a better sense of the position. I’m confident I can do the job. That’s not my worry. The—
ELIAS: What is your worry?
PAUL: Um… Twofold. One, how well I’ll align with the individual, the hiring person, the potential boss, how well I’ll align with him from a personality standpoint. Because I’ve only had a couple of interactions with him briefly and they were like, “Yeah, okay,” you know. This guy’s kind of not my ideal boss, but he’s not a bad guy. So kind of a mixed opinion about that, and then the other one is the projects that they have, there’s a lot of focus on them, and if they don’t go well that this position will probably get a lot of heat, if they don’t go well.
ELIAS: And what is the ultimate benefit of the other job?
PAUL: You mean the A.I. Director job?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Just to do more… Because right now I’m doing A.I. work for the procurement groups under my current boss. I was doing some managing of the development of those activities for his team. It’d be a much wider, higher-profile A.I. job and a promotion.
ELIAS: Ah! Very well. I would say take into consideration the people that you would be working with and whether you feel that you could successfully work with them on a daily basis, and then if your assessment is that you can, then I would suggest that you go ahead and move in that direction.
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s worthy for me to… I just don’t want to… I guess my initial thought is I don’t want to interview for the position and have my current boss saying, “Oh my gosh, you know, I helped him out and he’s wanting to jump over to another job.” I don’t want him feeling disappointed.
ELIAS: Who are you thinking about more? You or him?
PAUL: Ah! Good point. That’s a good point. Okay. So you’re recommending go ahead, have that exploratory talk and if I think I can—
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: — think I could get along with the potential new boss, then apply for the job formally, and then see where the chips fall then, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Well, okay. Okay.
ELIAS: And consider whether the other individuals will work well with you, with their personalities. Not only whether you can work with them, but also can they work with you?
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don’t know. I mean, it would be hard right now because I’ve dealt with the guy only very briefly in the past and then only recently for some the A.I. exploratory stuff this past fall, and the discussion was… We weren’t really fully aligned in our thinking. (Chuckles) So I don’t know. I don’t know.
ELIAS: It’s something to consider.
PAUL: Yes, I know. I know. And you can’t tell me whether or not I would align from a personality standpoint with this new guy, the senior director, the hiring person or not?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, no. That would be a matter of how you present yourself. And I’d say that it’s a matter of what you can express in relation to your tolerance of other people, and your tolerance of them when they don’t necessarily align with you. (Pause) And whether you can be in step with individuals even when they don’t align with you tremendously.
PAUL: Yeah. That’s a tough one. I don’t know how to answer that one.
ELIAS: It’s something to consider.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. I’m also looking about job enjoyment, whether or not I’d get more job enjoyment in that new role.
ELIAS: That’s precisely what I’m speaking about.
PAUL: So you’re saying I might—
ELIAS: It’s not only, it’s not only a matter of a promotion. It’s also a matter of whether you are enjoying your job and are feeling fulfilled with it, and not expressing friction. Therefore it’s, I’d say, something that you should consider and think about.
PAUL: I’m reading the tea leaves of what you’re saying, Elias. You’re saying that A.I. Director position has a higher potential for friction than if I stay in my current role.
ELIAS: Yes. But that doesn’t mean that you can’t do it, but it is something to definitely consider.
PAUL: Well, let me ask you something. So I… (Pause) I enjoy my current boss. I like his mannerisms, his personality, how he treats me. (Sighs) How…? Let me ask you a question. So if I… I don’t want to get a job that’ll add more friction (laughs) in my life because I’m not, I don’t think that’s beneficial for me to add friction.
ELIAS: I agree.
PAUL: So if don’t want to add friction, I should not pursue the opportunity.
ELIAS: It’s not that black-and-white. I’d say that it’s something to think about and to evaluate in relation to yourself and what you can and cannot engage, or what you will or will not engage.
PAUL: Mm. Well, how would it be if after – you know, I don’t want to do it next week when my boss is catching up from the holidays, but maybe at our one-on-one in two weeks, if I just come out and ask him the question, “What would it take to get a promotion?”
ELIAS: I’d say that that would be a good direction.
PAUL: Okay. I’ll ask him that then, because I was thinking about it. I wasn’t… I wasn’t sure how I should play this A.I. Director role. So right now, I will not really push the A.I. Director role. Instead, I’ll broach promotion opportunities with my boss directly.
ELIAS: Good.
PAUL: Okay. You think that’s a better path for me, right?
ELIAS: I’d say that it’s a good path for you and I’d say that if he is not forthcoming, if he’s somewhat dancing around the subject, that then maybe it would be something for you to investigate, that experiment with the other department.
PAUL: Yeah, but that role, I don’t know how much longer they’ll keep the role open. I might have a timing issue here. I don’t know. I understand what you’re saying though. I understand exactly what you’re saying. Hm.
ELIAS: And in that, if your timing issue seems tight, then don’t wait for your next meeting with your boss. Ask for a meeting with him.
PAUL: I can do that. I can do that later, maybe after… a couple days after that exploratory discussion with the hiring guy for the A.I. Director job.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Okay.
My daughter’s new dog, goes by the name of Cheese, we got it from a rescue shelter five weeks ago now, back before Thanksgiving so it was actually longer than that, almost two months now. And it seemed to do well, has tons of energy, but it’s awfully skinny. My daughter said, “Ah Dad, that’s its normal build.” It’s a nine-month-old dog, so it’s still very young. But they never pursued getting a fecal test, even though the… Because the vet, her current vet said, “Ah yeah, you should probably get a fecal test.” I know that the rescue shelter does give them an anti-parasite and stuff like that. Is that…? Is the dog healthy? Or is there any type of minor parasite in their system?
ELIAS: I’d say it would be advantageous to comply with the vet. And what type of dog is this?
PAUL: A border collie.
ELIAS: A border collie.
PAUL: Yeah. It’s potentially a mix, but—
ELIAS: Border collies are generally not thin. They’re muscular.
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: Even puppies are somewhat round, and I’d say that definitely they are high-energy dogs.
PAUL: Oh, very much so.
ELIAS: But yes. Yes, that’s something to be considered when you choose a border collie, because they are high-energy dogs. But in that, you also have to consider that if you have a high-energy dog and it’s thin, then you’re going to likely encounter problems with its health because its nature is to be high energy, regardless.
PAUL: So… Okay, so it doesn’t have a parasite, but you’re recommending just to get the vet to check it out from the standpoint of the fact that it’s still so thin, or very slim?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay, so no parasite, right?
ELIAS: Yes. Correct.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: Not at this point, but let me also express that they can pick up a parasite very easily and if the dog is already thin that will simply create more complications.
PAUL: Okay. So you’re basically just saying do your vet checkup and find out why it’s still so thin?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. But no parasite, okay.
I had surgery to remove a deep basal cell up by my temple, on my left temple near my ear. And that was a spot that was just not responding to anything. It was occasional freezing and then using that bacitracin zinc. It just was… It didn’t seem like it was making progress. But I thought it was just going to be a small spot to remove, but I’ve been putting that bacitracin zinc on it, but boy when they did the mole surgery they cut out about a four-inch swath going up past my ear and down along the side of my ear. So I’m wondering, was the bacitracin zinc just not enough for it to be subdued?
ELIAS: Likely so. I would express it generally will be significantly helpful, but it doesn’t penetrate tremendously. Therefore if there is a significant root, it may not penetrate to the degree that is necessary.
PAUL: Mm. So, I’m currently using the bacitracin zinc, and the kind I’m currently using, is that a good kind to use? Or should I …? Because I think it’s mostly bacitracin zinc. I’ll have to double check but I think it’s—
ELIAS: Good.
PAUL: But is the kind I’m using good? Is that a…?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Are all the…? There’s a couple of spots that are… I went to blue-light therapy. Oh! So I went to blue-light therapy back around before Thanksgiving. It seemed to clear up a bunch of minor spots in my face. And then I went to the second one about two weeks ago, and I… First of all, the treatment tends to be very painful. I didn’t notice any pain, or minor, very minor discomfort during the actual therapy, and I didn’t see anywhere near the… I mean, my face got red but I didn’t note anywhere near the level of peeling or… It’s like… And the lotion that she put on, that they use for the treatment, smelled different. And I was wondering if they put on expired medication or the medication didn’t work right? And the lady, the nurse when I called back saying, “Oh no. You know, you probably just didn’t have that much to clear up and you’re okay. Don’t worry about it.” Was the treatment done correctly for me? The blue-light treatment?
ELIAS: Why…? Why were you doing blue light rather than red light?
PAUL: It’s a thing where they put this topical chemo on your face and a blue light activates it, to remove the superficial skin cancers.
ELIAS: Have you had considerable success with that in the past?
PAUL: I’ve had some success for some of the minor stuff, yes. Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: I’d say engaging red light therapy may be more successful. And not in relation to chemotherapy.
PAUL: So just to do… What’s the word I’m thinking of? The bacitracin zinc and then to go sit in front of a blue-light therapy place, on my face?
ELIAS: Red.
PAUL: Red. Red light.
ELIAS: Red.
PAUL: Yeah. So switch to red?
ELIAS: Not blue. Yes.
PAUL: I don’t know where I… I don’t know if that’s over-the-counter or if there’s some places I can go to for that. I’ll have to look into that. It’s kind of… Hm.
On my left shoulder, shoulder blade area, I still have a spot. And this is not dealing with the blue-light therapy but it was a biopsy that the doctor back in the summer shaved off a couple of spots and said, “Yeah, they’re basal cell but they’re pretty thin so probably not going to have a recurrence.” Well the one side definitely did not recur, but the one that’s currently by my left shoulder blade has got a little bit of a bump to it. Does that mean that there’s still some basal cell there that he just didn’t get to? Or is it just a…? There’s no basal cell anymore, it’s just how it healed up?
ELIAS: The former.
PAUL: Oh, so there’s a little bit of basal there still? Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Well that will need to be cut out. Okay. That’s not fun. And there’s, on my right knee there is a spot down there. It looks like a basal. Is that a basal as well? Or just a… something else?
ELIAS: Yes. It is.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. I want to talk a little bit about food, because occasionally I still don’t feel like super-energetic, high energy. And I try to be more conscious of processed foods, and I noticed that a lot of processed foods seem to have what’s called potassium sorbate in them. Is that a negative thing for my health? I should avoid stuff with potassium sorbate? Or is it pretty benign or neutral in its effect?
ELIAS: I’d say it’s not necessarily good.
PAUL: So try to avoid it then?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: When you say you’re trying to change how you are consuming, what do you mean by that?
PAUL: Well, I’m trying to be more aware of processed foods and not consume them as much. I’ll give an example. So for breakfast, except for weekends, but during the week I’ll have… I’ll put on… I’ll get a couple pieces of toast and instead of butter on them I’ll put on… Sometimes I’ll buy either the fresh avocado or I’ll buy the avocado that’s already been mashed up if you will. It’s in a little container, and it’s just got salt, vinegar and some other stuff but nothing else beyond that. And I’ll put that on my toast and then on top of that I’ll put red onion and cilantro and tomatoes.
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: And that’s typically what I’ll have, a couple of slices of that, maybe two or three slices of… and on typically good bread, not like the highly-processed bread, the better kind. I’ll typically have that. And on the weekends I’ll have an egg or two with onions, green pepper, red pepper, stuff like that. And occasionally I’ll either put turkey bacon in there. Occasionally. I know I’m not supposed to use turkey bacon, but occasionally. So I assume it’s…
ELIAS: (Inaudible)
PAUL: Once in a while it’s not going to be that bad. That’s typically breakfast ideas during the week for me. And on lunches, I’m super healthy for lunch. I’ll typically get some either fruit or some vegetables for lunch, typically for me.
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: And then dinner will be… Well, let’s see. I had chicken alfredo with vegetables. I did add some crumpled bacon, because I made some bacon for the grandkids. I put some crumpled bacon in, but that’s what I had for dinner last night. So does that answer your question?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. So—
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: Well, what do you think? I think I’m okay, being more conscious of processed foods and just trying to keep at it?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
PAUL: Okay. Time travel progress. I’m still on the pace to hit physical projecting this spring? Or this summer?
ELIAS: Likely summer.
PAUL: Okay. I’ve noticed in some of my projecting – actually there’s one question I had. I did a projection where I saw this… I don’t know if he was a horse-man or just a worker, but it was a Spartan from ancient Sparta and he had a leather belt with loops in it. And I couldn’t figure out what type of belt that was, like on my trip it was, they’re metal loops or leather loops in his belt. His belt was leather. Was that some type of thing he used with horses? But he wore it. It was something that he used when he was dealing with horses. I was trying to figure out its use.
ELIAS: One moment. (Pause) Ah! It doesn’t have a physical use. Its use is associated with rank.
PAUL: Oh! So it’s an insignia of rank?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Oh that’s interesting.
ELIAS: Not military rank –
PAUL: Yeah, I understand. Yeah.
ELIAS: — but… Very well.
PAUL: Yeah, rank on the farm or whatever the facility is.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Yeah. Okay. That’s interesting. My Romanian sorcerer’s focus, I got, speaking of that, I got a belt. I had a view of some type of blood-caked belt, that either she had or somebody that she was with. Was that a correct projection interpretation?
ELIAS: Correct. Yes.
PAUL: Another one was seeing Julius Caesar’s first meeting of Cleopatra. You know, the old story goes that she was wrapped up in a carpet, smuggled to see Caesar, and she was unrolled on a carpet and that’s how they first met. I got the impression that she was actually being held in a room, and Caesar’s troops actually broke the door open to get to her and that was their first meeting.
ELIAS: Correct.
PAUL: Hm. Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: I’d say you’re doing considerably well with your projecting.
PAUL: Yeah! I think I’m getting some good tidbits that I’ve been able to cross-reference and verify, so… Speaking of another one, was I…? I was listening to some medieval holiday music and I got a strong impression about being a… I didn’t write down the year, but it’s something like 1640 or 1460’s, back in those medieval timeframes. But I was a barefoot altar boy in the Rouen Cathedral in France. Was that a correct view?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: It was wintertime. Was the reason I was barefoot was because my shoes were too muddy and the bishop asked me to leave them by the door and go light the candles barefoot, even though it was very cold?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
PAUL: Thanks! Did Himmler, Heinrich Himmler from World War II, did he actually escape to Sweden?
ELIAS: Escape his fate?
PAUL: Yeah, did he…?
ELIAS: No.
PAUL: So he actually died under custody by the Allies?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Well, because there seemed to be some questions about the picture of the guy they showed not matching the actual Heinrich Himmler. And so there’s some thought that maybe he either escaped and they had some other guy that looked like him, or that the British held him for their own purposes.
ELIAS: No.
PAUL: Okay. Okay.
Let’s talk about A.I. stuff in general. When do you think we’ll get into artificial general intelligence as a phase?
ELIAS: Meaning?
PAUL: That the A.I. could be proactive without necessarily being prompted all the time to solve a situation.
ELIAS: In which it is actually thinking?
PAUL: Yeah.
ELIAS: It’s possible that you can move to that point, I’d say, within the next twenty years.
PAUL: Okay. So we’re definitely not very far along in that front then. Okay.
ELIAS: No. No.
PAUL: So being that A.I.—
ELIAS: It’s not, it’s not thinking yet. It’s not… It’s not learning yet. And those two pieces will come together in technology, that it is thinking and it is not moving in a direction of simply finding information that exists.
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: That it’s moving beyond being a computer. (Pause)
PAUL: I might get back to that one, because that might be a longer discussion and I want to get to some other questions. I feed the crows—
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: I feed the crows outside my house, been doing it for a year and a half, and they come like clockwork. I switched from raw unsalted peanuts in the shell, which they love, to raw cracked corn. And they seemed to turn their nose up to it and barely touched it (laughs), if anything, just to spread it around. Was that because they were just upset they weren’t getting the peanuts? Or do they actually not like cracked corn?
ELIAS: They don’t like it.
PAUL: They don’t like it as a food? Or that’s just--
ELIAS: Correct.
PAUL: But I thought… When I read, everything they said, well crows will eat cracked corn, yeah.
ELIAS: Perhaps if there’s nothing else, but it isn’t something that they actually like.
PAUL: Oh wow. So I’ll just give it to the birds then, because I have a big bag of it (laughs) that I got for the crows. Yeah. So I’ll just feed it to the birds, because it seems like the birds are eating it.
ELIAS: Crows are more discerning than people give them credit for.
PAUL: Well, let me ask you that. Also, I’ve been doing a good job feeding them and I have not got one of those shiny gifts in return, like a shiny pebble or some shiny object that they found. How come I’m not getting them to return the favor?
ELIAS: Not all crows do that. Some crows do. Some groups of crows do, but not all crows do that. That is a misconception that all crows have that action that they engage as a return of what is being offered to them, or being reciprocal. I’d say that some crows have done that and it definitely caught the attention of the humans, but I’d say that most groups of crows don’t actually do that.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. Let me shift topics. Who hit my pineal gland or my forehead? I was meditating or in deep relaxation the other day. I was suddenly… felt like someone tapped me real firmly on the forehead, where your pineal gland is at. Who was that?
ELIAS: You.
PAUL: Me, myself and I, huh?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: What was…? Why? I don’t get it. Why was that…? I don’t…
ELIAS: And what was your meditation directed to?
PAUL: Well, I don’t remember honestly, because this is going back about six weeks ago. I’m guessing it was associated with time travel.
ELIAS: I’d say that whatever it was that you were directing your meditation to, you were attempting to gain your own attention in expressing pay attention to what you were doing in that moment.
PAUL: Mm.
ELIAS: Therefore perhaps you’ll do it again.
PAUL: Okay. So it was like just… It’s just getting my self’s attention, so it was like whatever I was doing was important?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. I will have to go back, because I don’t remember what it was anymore.
My achilleas tendon, my left achilleas tendon, I wear a brace daily and I just put it on like clockwork, and it… I walk around and in most cases I feel generally fine with it on and moving around. What’s your thoughts about me doing some light jogging? I’m getting a little impatient to return to running.
ELIAS: I’d say you can definitely try it, and observe whether it is painful later. If you’re wearing the brace, it might not be painful while you’re jogging but pay attention to how it feels later. I would suggest that you ice it after you stretch.
PAUL: You mean after I run? Or after I stretch?
ELIAS: After you run and stretch.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. Well okay, I’ll… Within twenty minutes after I run, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Mm. I will have to think about that.
Are there any recommended steps that you would advocate for me to find a female friend? You know, preferably a friend that I’d be willing to date, but not necessarily. It could just be a female friend to go hang out and do stuff with. And maybe is that friend of mine that’s… Her name is Holly. Maybe that is the friend that… She’s been dealing with her father’s getting sick for most of the year, but he just recently passed away like a week ago. Is she really maybe a good option for me as a friend to go do activities with and hang out with?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay, so… So focus on Holly then, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. I think it’s… So you think she’d be attuned to me saying, “Hey, I want to go do X,” you know, and just see. And she’ll be more than willing to just do the activity with me? Like go see the mountains or go see some museum or something like that, those types of activities?
ELIAS: Invite her.
PAUL: I will.
ELIAS: Don’t simply, don’t simply express you want to do this.
PAUL: Yeah. I’m saying like, I’m thinking about say, “Hey, I’m going to the lodge at Olympic National Park. Would you be interested in going?”
ELIAS: Yes, or “I’d like you to go.”
PAUL: Okay. Be more forward. Okay. Okay. I will do that. I’ll send her a note, maybe today and see if she’s willing to chat and stuff like that. Well, good. That’s interesting.
Let’s see. A friend of mine, Steph, who you know, her friend Uri, it’s her dentist or a dentist that she knows, did he fragment from her essence Rachel?
ELIAS: And other essences.
PAUL: And other… Okay.
I’ve been curious, since I do this projection time travel, I could go to current events. I don’t always have to go in the past. So I could theoretically get answers to certain current topics directly, right?
ELIAS: Correct. Yes.
PAUL: So would it be of interest for something like the C.I.A. or something like that, to have an individual with my capabilities employed by them as a contractor?
ELIAS: It depends on how successful you are, but if you were significantly successful and consistent that’s a possibility. Do you want to work for the C.I.A.?
PAUL: No, I don’t… I’m… Honestly, I think it would be kind of interesting to be paid to do what I enjoy doing. Probably it’s projections of consciousness.
ELIAS: Ah.
PAUL: That’s my short answer. (Laughs) Yeah. Just an idea. I don’t know. Just thinking about it. I mean it’s just something that crossed my mind the other day. I’m not saying I would like necessarily working for an outfit like that. It just came up as an idea.
ELIAS: Ah. Very well.
PAUL: I had some dreams—
ELIAS: It can be interesting to explore different ideas that you may or may not actually act on.
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah. So you’re saying it’s okay to think about, but maybe not (laughs), maybe not in actual practice, huh?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Yeah.
ELIAS: I’d say that an organization such as the C.I.A. has very strict guidelines and rules, and you might not be as inclined to want to engage with their organization because of that.
PAUL: Hm. Yeah, okay. I got your message. (Laughs)
Hey, back in November, the middle of November, I had a dream about having these, seeing these books of records. Everything I said or did, and others that were affiliated with me, was… Well, we were given timeframes. It was listed on these books of records. And I tried to explore who made them and how I could start and stop new books. So I was trying to think of that imagery there, and the best I can kind of characterize is that it’s this recognition that I can be self-directing and self-creating. Is that the imagery of that dream?
ELIAS: Yes. Congratulations.
PAUL: Okay. I was pretty sure, but I just wanted to get some verification.
I had a… Back in September, I had a house break-in dream. Without going through a long discussion of it – unless you want me to go through the details, I can – but when I have these house break-in dreams, is that a harbinger of something that actually could occur? Am I creating these elements that hey, this might happen, you might need to change some of your activities to keep your house secure?
ELIAS: No. I’d say it’s more a matter of what you’re paying attention to, and not moving in the direction of paying attention to protection.
PAUL: Oh! Okay. I’m aware of that. Yeah, that’s a good one.
I’m trying to think if something else jumps out at me that I want to ask, other than another dream question. There was another science question. I can’t find it though.
We’ve got about two minutes left. Is there anything else you want to mention to me, Elias?
ELIAS: How have you been getting on with your daughter and grandchildren?
PAUL: Same, mostly.
ELIAS: And the fiancé?
PAUL: Same, mostly. You know, good, well. But I will say this. My daughter had been mentioning to me in quite serious tones that, “Hey, Dad, we should get a house together, a nicer house.” And because she kept wanting me, during the holidays, to sleep over and I asked her why, like “I like sleeping in my own bed. Why do you want me to sleep over so bad?” she goes, “I just the feeling of security and safety that I have when you stay over.”
ELIAS: And what do you think about that?
PAUL: I’m not sure that would be a positive thing, because then I’d have too many distractions for things like my meditation.
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: What do you think?
ELIAS: I would say it’s entirely your choice, and a matter of what you’re comfortable with.
PAUL: Well, I think if I did do something like that we’d have to have a clear separation in the household, because I do want my own private areas for meditation and other stuff. So I don’t know. I have mixed opinions about that. I mean obviously from a financial standpoint it’d be easier for both of us to have one big house, financially. So I don’t know.
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: But nothing’s going to happen now, so… I do, I want to ask one quick question. Is this area still a good area for me, that resonates with my energy?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay. I’m out of time now, Elias. I want to thank you for our discussion, as always. It’s always beneficial and I look forward to our next discussion.
ELIAS: As do I, my dear friend. And I express tremendous, tremendous love to you and—
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