Session 202604301

Projections and Remote Viewing

Topics:

“Projections and Remote Viewing”
“Attempted Assassination of Trump”
“Listening to Intuition”
“Extraterrestrials and Aliens”
“Generating a Manned Craft to Mars”

Thursday, April 30, 2026 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ann (Vivette)


ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANN: Well good afternoon, Elias! (Elias laughs) Good to talk to you.

ELIAS: And how shall we begin this day?

ANN: Well today since I had that session kind of in-between, I don’t have any pressing things. So this is going to be like a free time session. We’re just going to talk about things and no agenda on my part, nothing that I… obviously curiosities, but just kind of for fun (laughs) and kind of for all these secrets I feel that you’re keeping from me (both laugh) or not. I know you’re…

Oh, let’s just dive into this a little bit more. I’ve been very fascinated with this remote viewer and it’s… And I kind of figure… And I’m also fascinated – I think I talked to you about this before – the kids. There’s a podcast called Telepathy Tapes and this woman has been investigating autistic kids and how they can communicate, like sometimes they go, not physically but non-physically, they go… Where do they go? Oh, to a hill, and they meet and they can talk with each other, or if they’re bonded with a parent or something they can talk to them or communicate with them, even the non-verbal kids and stuff. And I guess it must be like reading energy or being like out-of-body or astral travel, all this kind of stuff. And everybody has different ways of doing stuff like that. So I do want to go on…

Well, since I’m fascinated, we might as well just talk about it. But so then I’m also understanding that we… Like I, probably I travel but I don’t… Almost everybody travels.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: But they don’t necessarily remember, recall it, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANN: So how is the best way to get the recall?

ELIAS: I’d say the best manner in which you can have recall is to be doing it intentionally.

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: Not simply doing it when you’re sleeping. People project frequently while they’re sleeping and sometimes you have recall of that and some, many times, you don’t. But if you are doing a projection intentionally, you should have a recall of what you’re doing.

And the other manner, which is slightly more involved, would be to involve yourself with a hypnotherapist who can move you in a direction of recalling those experiences, and that can be an easy avenue for remembering. And I’d say that if you don’t want to do that – although I would recommend it, because it’s easy and it’s, in a manner of speaking, quick—

ANN: Yeah. Oh, I would love to do that if I can find one here in my little sleepy, southern town (Elias chuckles) but I actually have always kind of been fascinated with hypnosis as well. Although I have – and I mean I would, I think it might be different if I was sitting in a therapist’s office, but I have like… a hypnotherapist, I went. The ones that do shows, comedy shows and stuff, I’ve been to a couple of those, and twice have, or once was called up and… to try to be hypnotized, but I couldn’t be hypnotized and they sent me back, and… But I’ve always kind of been fascinated by the whole thing. So you have… Actually, it might be fun to… I’ll have to find a hypnotherapist to play around with.

ELIAS: Or anyone that can engage hypnosis will also suffice.

ANN: Yeah. And maybe – I don’t want to do it today – but maybe someday if I don’t have any other thing I’ll talk to you about, I’ll have you do… You can do, you can lead me through one, right?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes, I can. But I would also express that you can do that yourself also.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: And in that, then recall your projections.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: By engaging hypnosis with yourself

ANN: Yeah. I think I’ve had… I mean, I haven’t really spent that much time working on it, but I’ve had just a couple instances where I know I had success. But it almost… like just… it’s kind of like that thing when you do it for the first time and you have success, and you do it again and it’s not as successful. But I do know one time when I wanted to see… This was actually Tracy who lived in Spain and I wanted… We were just playing around and I saw her floor and she said it was whatever I said it was. She said that was right. But then there was another time when I was reading a book about this kind of stuff and it said to practice seeing something. And I was sitting outside at a pool in a lawn chair and there was a big column and I didn’t know what was on the other side, so I just visualized or tried to see what was on the other side of the column, and I saw this black splotch thing. And then when I got up and walked to the other side of the column, there was a black splotch there. It was very exciting. (Both laugh) And—

ELIAS: THAT is actually more in keeping with what you were discussing about remote viewing.

ANN: Right. Right. That’s more remote… So remote viewing and project… Okay, so this woman who calls herself a remote viewer, it almost sounds likes it’s a projection because she says when she goes places she sees other remote viewers there. And so I was thinking that must be some kind of astral projection that she sees. So when you remote view, you’re not… What’s the difference then, between remote viewing and astral projection?

ELIAS: When you project, you’re actually moving yourself somewhere. When you are remote viewing, you’re simply looking somewhere. Therefore as with the column, you’re not actually projecting around to the other side of it. You’re simply viewing either around it or through it.

ANN: So is one easier than the other? Or are they just different actions?

ELIAS: I’d say they’re simply different.

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: One isn’t necessarily easier than the other.

ANN: So, I’ve been paying attention to myself, and I don’t think this is anything more… It’s probably what everyone could do if they pay attention to themselves, or just like these knowings and stuff. And like Mary and I were talking, and I’d already talked to you about those… that detox thing I was on, and—

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: I just kept hearing the voice in myself going, “Too much! Too much! Too much!” and “No!” And so, you listening to that voice and obviously I had ran it by you, ran it by A.I. too, just whatever, but sometimes… I do know… Like there are times and I really like it, and I just kind of want to go into this more, and I think it’s just a matter of listening to myself. Sometimes you just know things.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: And you don’t know how you know them. And then sometimes you know things and you’re not necessarily quite sure, but sometimes you know things that you might not know but you’re like 100% dead sure it’s accurate, or you’re just sure that it’s accurate. So…

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Listening to that more, but I think one of the reasons that I’m kind of fascinated with this, whether… I think she calls herself a remote viewer, but she might be doing projections too or whatever she does, and she talks to her galactic guides and whatever. She talks to different… or she might… she probably is doing a form of channeling and stuff like that as well. She does all this kind of things. But one of the reasons that I’m a little, going through my little fascinated stage, or I guess two reasons, one is because she does do it. You know, she talks about E.T.’s or just kind of fun stuff that we all want to be true. And she does talk about that and even though I listen to her and it’s fun to listen to, I always am aware that different people interpret things different ways and I’m not necessarily to take everything literally, but just the gist of it. So that’s one reason, just kind of fun subject matters. And two, when she says things, it kind of resonates with me. It’s like, “Yeah! That makes sense to me.”

That’s another thing that I’ve used throughout my life if someone’s… like to find out if someone’s lying to me or not, I’ve always kind of laid back – and it’s not 100% accurate, but I would probably say it’s 90% accurate – when someone says something to me and I’m like, and I’m thinking to myself, “Well, that doesn’t make sense. That doesn’t makes sense,” for whatever reason, it’s probably because it’s not true. Or if someone says something to me, I’m like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah! That makes sense.” I mean for me, it seems like it’s true.

So for an example, she did this remote… I guess Trump was… There was another shooting recently at him, and when I heard about it, to me it just didn’t feel like that big of a deal. Like the first, when he… when he got the first bullet thing that went past his ear, that felt… That just felt like, “Ooh, whoa baby!” Like it just felt more impactful or more… more real, I guess.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: And then this other, this time that – and I think there was another one, but I don’t much remember – but this latest one, it just didn’t really… I was like, “Yeah.” I just felt like that and then when she went and saw… So she can go in different places in timelines. I mean, she can go… She’s not necessarily beholden to time, so she can go back and look. She looks at the scene and everything and then she looks at people. But anyhow, so when she did her remote viewing she… Of different, not just the situation but in a room where there were these people and Trump was one of them, and basically what she had discerned from her viewing was that it was a staged… And although it wasn’t Trump’s idea, he… He was aware of it and he was in on it, and they were doing it because… for several reasons. One, because they wanted to garner… Like the first time he got shot at, he got a lot of sympathy and a lot of support, so they were trying to say, “Well, maybe if this happens again we can get some of this sympathy and support rallied against us,” and also as a diversion tactic. And when she’s saying all this stuff, I’m like, “Yeah!” I just felt… It resonated with me, as what… I’m like, “I do think that’s what happened as well.” Not because she’s telling me, but because I felt it. So that is one reason I’m kind of fascinated with it.

So let me just… From your perspective, do you think that was an accurate summation of what was going on there?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Yeah. So I love… It’s kind of fun. (Both chuckle) It’s kind of fun to look at things. Oh! And I… I mean I… This isn’t new. I remember when – oh, I don’t know how many decades ago, when people still watched the news and I still watched the news – and I saw a woman, her two children were missing and she’s wanting people to find them, but I just like… I didn’t necessarily have sympathy towards her. I was a little suspicious. Well, it ended up, she ended up having drove, the kids were in the back seat of the car and she drove them into the lake, and she killed her own kids. And sometimes I know. Like sometimes I’ll see a situation that’s supposed to be tugging the heartstrings—

ELIAS: It might.

ANN: — and I’m like, “Aaa, it just doesn’t… It just doesn’t tug on my heartstrings.” And I’m like. “Aaa,” and I’ll have… Like I won’t… I’ll just have a feeling of disconnection or not even…. or thinking it’s not genuine. Or sometimes something of a similar ilk could happen and I would be all in on it. So I – or it would pull on my heartstrings. So I am paying attention to this and thinking I am probably knowing. And here again, if everyone has their own reality, maybe just in my reality I am knowing. That’s my way of telling when someone’s being dishonest or genuine.

ELIAS: I agree. I agree. And I would say that that’s also you listening to your intuition.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: Which will give you the correct answer.

ANN: Yeah. So, paying attention to my intuition is very much… It’s like… It’s… I like it. And then I was thinking… Oh! I did – this is something we could talk about, because I think since it’s all coming up, I’m ready to trust myself and move past this. Because like with this doctor, this functional medicine doctor, since I… A couple… Actually, there’s two things I want you… I want you to help me… Well, it doesn’t matter, but I’m not necessarily looking forward. We have an appointment set up in the beginning of May to go over everything, and I haven’t told her that I discontinued this system. And for me, I notice in myself there is a part of me wanting to please the other person, or wanting to make the other person happy or not be disappointed in me, or not to think that I didn’t listen to her. So I’m noticing I have these feelings coming up, but I just tell myself, well… And I know that’s a…. That’s something I have done in that past, and I am kind of continuing. There’s places I can recognize now where I do do that. And sometimes I do that and I override my intuition doing that, trying to please the other person. So I am aware that I am doing that, but I’m still a little… like not necessarily looking forward to this conversation.

So maybe the first, before we go on—

ELIAS: Which makes sense, because if you are moving in a direction of feeling uncomfortable because you’re already in some capacity overriding your intuition and what you know, then it makes sense that you’d be uncomfortable looking forward to this interaction, and not wanting to.

ANN: Yes. So now that I’ve decided I don’t want to override my intuition and I’m not taking what she wanted me to take, do you have any advice on just how to… I even googled a bit on A.I. and maybe that’s enough. Like how do I address this? (Laughs) I’m like, “A.I., can you tell me how to address this?” And they were saying, and it’s probably what I should do, is just tell her. Like I’m thinking I’m going to tell her that this system I did not feel was right for me. I don’t want to say… I don’t want to put down her systems and what she gives to other people. That’s I feel like not in my realm. I just want to say, “I don’t feel that this system is good for me and I decided…” A.I. says you just be firm, just say what you have decided. And I have decided to stop doing it and then I will tell her what I am doing. And I guess I’m not that uncomfortable anymore. I can just say that and then her reaction will be her reaction, and that’s her responsibility. That’s not my responsibility.

ELIAS: And I’d say that it’s very likely that she won’t have much of a reaction.

ANN: Yeah. Probably not.

ELIAS: Because when people move in a direction of expressing that they don’t agree with a physician and that they chose not to engage the medication or some protocol that the physician ordered for them, they generally don’t have a reaction to what you’re expressing to them. In that, they’re not generally going to argue with you about your body.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: If you feel something that this is not correct for you, they’re not necessarily going to argue with you about what you feel about your body.

ANN: Yeah. Yeah.

ELIAS: Unless you have a physician that you’re telling them – not about something that they have prescribed for you – but when you’re telling them something that you believe about your body, what it’s doing, and they don’t agree with you, then they might be more forceful in disagreeing with you, but not necessarily about something that they recommended or that they prescribed and you decided not to engage it.

ANN: Yeah. Yeah. And I also feel like… This system that she gave me was not the… It was kind of an expensive little system, and I feel like… And it’s weird because I don’t begrudge her, she’s working and people work to make money, but I just feel like sometimes her priority could be maybe making money. Which it’s kind of weird to say, because I do think she’s doing what she wants. She does, and she wants to help people get better and she’s got a lot of people that she has helped get better, but I do feel like money might play a bigger factor in it and may… okay, I should say and may color her a bit. And I’m not saying that’s good or bad—

ELIAS: I agree.

ANN: I’m just saying I feel like that may, you know, color—

ELIAS: I agree.

ANN: Color her decisions. Anyhow. All right. Well, I guess I don’t really feel too bad about it. I feel like it’ll be a good exercise for me, too.

ELIAS: I agree. To express yourself.

ANN: Yes. And, you know, start listening to my intuition more. I even, I bought these… Another example that I’ve given myself, and I’m like – and I almost want to beat myself up, but I’m like, “I’m not going to go down the road of beating myself up.” I’m like, “Okay. Okay. It’s just a… You gave yourself a lesson. You know now.” It’s like sometimes when I do things that I know better or I rush through it. Like I was going to get these tickets for this comedy show John and I are going to go see. And I just went online and I thought I was going to the venue’s site to order the tickets, but there was another site that it came up. And I thought, “Oh, maybe this is the site that venue uses just to orchestrate ordering the tickets.” Anyhow, I was doing it when I was distracted and I was in a hurry, and it ends up that I didn’t buy them on the site and I bought it from this third-party thing that… I looked them up. They’re supposedly, they are a legitimate business but they have a lot of shady undoings. Anyhow… And they charge twice as much as I should’ve been charged and… and I still haven’t got my tickets yet.

So I’m like, “Darn it!” and I’m not necessarily mad at them, I’m mad at myself because – Well, I’m not even mad at myself, I’m just like “Damn it!” because that was one time when I… It’s a thing sometimes I do, if I rush through something or just want to get something done and I overlook things. And even though in the back of my head when I was doing it, I did know there was something going, “Mm, this doesn’t look right,” but I overrode that. So I think what I’m doing, like when I’m overriding myself, it doesn’t turn out the best. So I guess this is good that I’m bringing this… like I’m realizing more and more when I override myself, and the good thing about that is, is I’m realizing that I can trust myself. You know?

ELIAS: Yes. But also, I’d say that this is something that is being expressed with many individuals presently. It’s also lessons in moving slower and more precise.

ANN: Yes.

ELIAS: And not rushing, but being precise in what you’re doing and therefore recognizing or being aware of how everything is put together by you and how everything is moving in a direction of connecting, because you’re making it do that. But in that, it’s very important that you’re paying attention to what you’re doing, and people have a tendency to think faster is better. And in that, your society is geared in that direction also, because your technology is geared in that direction. And therefore faster, faster, faster. Even having to wait for thirty seconds or one minute is too long. And in this, what many of you are presenting to yourselves presently is the value of moving slower and paying attention and being precise.

ANN: Yep. I would say I sure am doing that.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And it’s definitely worth it.

ANN: Yeah. And I do know I do have a tendency to want to move fast, but I mean I understand exactly what you’re saying and I agree with you. But I also think there… Like I think about… It’s interesting. Like John and I, and actually I feel like we’re kind of complements in this because sometimes I can make a decision like that, but sometimes I don’t. And I do listen to it, or he may even say, “Well, let’s make this decision,” and I’m like, “Ah, I just don’t feel like I want to make it right now.” But as a whole, I’m usually the quicker one to say, “Okay, make a decision. Let’s do this,” da-da-da, and he is the more contemplative researcher, takes his time. And they both can have their benefits, and I always joke about how, “Oh, we kind of balance each other out,” because he can also get to the point where he just does so much research and goes in a circle, that he doesn’t even make a decision. So I always say if we both want to make a decision, that’s the right – the same decision – that’s probably a good sign. (Both laugh)

But… But anyhow, but I do think… But I do notice like my cadence and John’s cadence, I feel naturally mine is quicker than his is. I just like, even driving, he drives slower. I drive faster. And I don’t know if this is just because of my environment, like you were saying, in today’s environment everything being so fast, or if that’s kind of just my natural self.

ELIAS: I’d say it’s more your natural self.

ANN: Yeah, I do feel like I’m—

ELIAS: And then the influences of society and technology add to that.

ANN: Yes. Yes. But I do feel like these experiences that I am… I mean, I feel like I’m getting an understanding of, or not an understanding but I’m listening to myself more and more, and realizing when I didn’t listen to myself then da-da-da. Which it’s happened obviously throughout my life, and probably everybody’s life, but it does feel like I’m maybe upping the game a little bit more. Okay.

ELIAS: I understand.

ANN: All right. So let’s go back to some fun topics. (Elias chuckles) Mr. Likes-to-Be-as-Non… What is that word you used? Um… What is that word? Accurate? Well, I know it’s accurate. Non-distorted?

ELIAS: Mysterious.

ANN: Mystery! Yeah, you like to be mysterious. (Elias laughs) Yes, you are sometimes mysterious. Okay, let’s go back to talking about—

ELIAS: Not be distorted is correct.

ANN: Oh yes. Least distortion.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Which I do appreciate, so… and I understand. So anyhow, let’s go back – and I know I’ve asked you this question before, but I can’t remember. But you… Have you said E.T., extraterrestrials, have or have not ever been on my planet, earth?

ELIAS: Have not.

ANN: But aliens have?

ELIAS: Correct. Not for long, but yes.

ANN: And are extraterrestrials viewing our earth from outer space, like from a spaceship kind of thing?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Oh, that’s kind of fun. And so if an extra… You know how, like this remote viewer or projection can go different places, different times, different planets? Have some extraterrestrials projected to this planet?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Hm. And if an alien is here, even though it’s interdimensional, can it appear solid and physical?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Ah! So are any of these, as you term them, elites aliens?

ELIAS: No.

ANN: Ah!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Disappointing?

ANN: Yeah. I want some… I don’t know, sci-fi here Elias.

ELIAS: Ah!

ANN: Usually sci-fi is like, our science fiction is science, becomes science reality. It becomes reality.

ELIAS: And it is. It definitely is. You’re definitely moving in that direction. I’d say that for the very rich, not for other than the very rich, but for the very rich there are what they term to be smart homes. Although I would say that Denise is finding some that are a beginning to smart homes for individuals that are not the very rich, and therefore that’s an example of it’s becoming something that is affordable for average individuals.

ANN: Yes.

ELIAS: That they have smart homes that actually do a lot of actions for you.

ANN: Yes. And Denise and I have had those conversations and we get very excited about it. It’s like, “Bring it on!”

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: “Bring it on!”

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: And then here again, not necessarily… You look at social media, which we all know we have to take that with a grain of salt, but I’ve been getting all these social media posts that says all this fun stuff that’s happening in China with technology. And I’m like, “Oh my god, it feels like China is definitely ahead of the United States.” Let’s leave the military out of it for now because I don’t know what they’re doing. (Elias laughs) But I do feel like… Is China ahead of the United States with regarding technology?

ELIAS: In some directions, yes.

ANN: And—

ELIAS: And so is Japan.

ANN: Oh yeah, China and Japan. Yes. It’s kind of fun, seeing all this stuff. Okay. And then the other thing I want to ask you about – this remote viewer talks about this too but not only her, it just seems to be in the zeitgeist of humanity right now: disclosure. Everyone talks about it. Even Bashar talks about disclosure, disclosure. And everyone’s talking about this impending disclosure, like E.T. disclosure. And I know… So what is this disclosure? And I won’t share it. I won’t let this cat out of the bag if I don’t want to (Elias chuckles), but I want you to tell me. What is this disclosure going to be? Is it going to be that we have had… What is this disclosure going to be? Or likely to be, because I know you don’t do predictions.

ELIAS: It depends on what you’re speaking about.

ANN: Regarding extraterrestrials or aliens

ELIAS: Ah.

ANN: Or anything like that. So regarding this disclosure.

ELIAS: I’d say that in relation to that disclosure, remember: your technology is moving so quickly, and you now have access to A.I. and that gives you so much more information than you had before. And that is moving exceptionally fast. Therefore, in relation to almost any subject, because there’s so much more information available, I’d say that it’s very difficult to not have disclosure in relation to almost any subject.

ANN: All right. So let me reword this. What…? Is there something our government knows? And if so, what do they know that the general public does not know, in regards to either extraterrestrials or aliens? (Pause) This is where I don’t want you to keep secrets from me, Elias (Both chuckle)

ELIAS: Or be mysterious. (Chuckles)

ANN: Or be mysterious.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I’d say that your government knows about let’s say visitation from aliens—

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: — that are actually real.

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: I’d say that in relation to extraterrestrials, they’re exploring that and looking in the direction of what extraterrestrials might be watching you, but exploring planets and possible communications outside of your solar system. Which there is lots of conspiracy theories about that—

ANN: Yeah. Okay.

ELIAS: — and there are lots of theories about what planets your government are looking at. And they, for the most part, people target planets that are much too far away for your government or anyone on your planet to be actually monitoring yet.

ANN: So has our government had any type of communication with any extraterrestrials?

ELIAS: They think they have.

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: They’re not entirely certain, but they think that they have. They think that they have generated signals that have been answered.

ANN: Oh! That’s kind of cool. Oh! They think they have, but have, the signals that were answered, did they come from E.T.’s? Or no, we just think they did?

ELIAS: Well, I’d say that they’ve been answered by other technologies that are monitored by extraterrestrials. Therefore yes, they have.

ANN: Ooh! Interesting. Well that, finally Elias, that is exciting to me! (Elias laughs) Oh, I love that!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Now; as to disclosures, that would more be associated with aliens.

ANN: Yeah. Okay.

ELIAS: That would be more different expressions of aliens that have been catalogued and have been held in evidence of the existence of other-dimensional beings, and that they have had contact with individuals in your reality. And in that, I’d say that governments and the military has always denied that.

ANN: So how do the aliens…? Is it…? Do they do some form of physical projection to become physical here? Or how are they becoming physical here?

ELIAS: They actually move through dimensional portals, in a manner of speaking. Therefore they have observed and then tested actually physically moving through, with crafts, not individual people or beings, but with crafts. That they can move through certain portals at certain times, and it will allow them through, physically.

ANN: And the dimension that aliens that… say that have come through here, come from, is it similar at all? To—

ELIAS: No.

ANN: Not at all to our reality?

ELIAS: No. No. That’s why they’re fascinated.

ANN: Yeah. So if E.T.s that… Like the E.T.s that are in the spaceship above earth are observing earth, are they more…? Would they be more familiar to us than the aliens, because they’re of this dimension?

ELIAS: Some of them. Some of them. Not all. There are many, many, many that are not. There are many, many, many that are very different from yourselves, but some, yes.

ANN: So what’s the likelihood…? I know you can’t predict the future, but what is just the likelihood…? And it doesn’t really matter either way. You’re not going to disappoint me, but you could excite me. (Elias laughs) What is the likelihood of me in this focus right here ever… Oh, no, I guess it’s unlikely. Of ever coming in contact with an E.T.? Probably unlikely.

ELIAS: Mm. That is changing very quickly. I would say a year ago, I would have said it’s highly unlikely. But now, your technology is changing so fast—

ANN: Oh, this is exciting!

ELIAS: — and your A.I. is changing so incredibly fast, that I’d say that it might be possible in your lifetime. Because—

ANN: Oh my god! That’s exciting.

ELIAS: — this new space program that you have, that—

ANN: Elon Musk’s? Or N.A.S.A.?

ELIAS: Yes. That recently launched.

ANN: Okay. Artemis II?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Yes.

ELIAS: This program is designed to set the groundwork to send manned crafts to Mars, to another planet in your solar system. Which is—

ANN: Huge.

ELIAS: — actually unheard of at this time. It IS huge. To come from simply orbiting your planet to actually being able to create a go-between space station on your moon and generate a manned craft to Mars is astounding, that you have moved to that point, or almost to that point. That’s the goal.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: And I’d say that you’re able to move in that direction because you have generated such a tremendous explosion in technology. And as I expressed to you previously, when you move to the point of being able to create power forms that can sustain a craft that can actually move to another planet, that’s when you are very soon after that likely to generate first contact—

ANN: Wow.

ELIAS: — with extraterrestrials. And in that, I’d say that you’re very close to that.

ANN: That’s exciting. All right, another—

ELIAS: It is.

ANN: Another probability question. What is the probability of me being alive in this focus when or if, or when A.I. becomes sentient?

ELIAS: That’s hard to say at this point. I again, one year ago, would have said that it would not be likely in your lifetime. But now that’s actually very questionable, and I would say—

ANN: Oh my god.

ELIAS: — that it’s actually a possibility.

ANN: It kind of feels like it. And I know it’s like us projecting our humanness on, but when you have conversations just with A.I., it does feel more and more like you’re talking to, you know, another person.

ELIAS: I understand.

ANN: Okay.

ELIAS: And that’s because it’s… It has access to so much information.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: Previously the information that you could access through your internet has been limited, and it’s actually been limited intentionally.

ANN: On purpose, yeah.

ELIAS: Yes. But now it’s moving in the direction of being unlimited and that, I would agree with you, is very exciting.

ANN: Okay. Now another question (Elias chuckles) which I am very… So I couldn’t even begin to do this on my own, because I’m so biased about this. What…? I had read – you know, you read all these things – someone was saying that Gaia, earth, has decided to… I mean, they didn’t say this but my interpretation was become healthy and vibrant and… and move into the fifth dimension, which I know you’ve asked me before what that means and I don’t know what it means, so don’t ask me again. (Elias laughs) But the… So… But my question to you is what are the chances, the probability, that we’re actually going to – and I hate to do this because I don’t want to focus on…. I realize I’ve been focusing on us poisoning the earth so much and then I, my body… I realize I’m fucking manifesting this. I mean, thank god, not in dire straits for me, but okay, I know that’s what I’m focusing on. That’s what I’m focusing on. But I’m going to focus on the health and the vitality of our planet, of our environment, of our animals, of our human bodies. What is the probability of this happening in my lifetime?

ELIAS: (Pause) That’s a big ask. I’d say that that depends on the actual cooperation of people around the world.

ANN: Yeah. Yeah.

ELIAS: Because there is so much that has been contaminated or has been not taken care of.

ANN: Yeah, I know.

ELIAS: And in a manner of speaking, has generated the dis-health of your planet, that it would require people throughout your world in every country to be moving in a direction and expressing cooperation with each other to clean it.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: And that is, that is a big ask because I’d say that you’re not simply speaking about the cleaning up of land, which would be enormous, literally enormous, but more of your planet is covered by oceans than land. And the oceans in your world are tremendously polluted. Therefore that would require a lot of action of cooperation for people to alter that. Therefore I’d say that is it possible in your lifetime. It is. Is it likely in your lifetime? Not as much.

ANN: (Sighs) Well, you know what they say? Someone told me once, use a little magic. Make the impossible possible.

ELIAS: I agree. (Laughs)

ANN: Well, I know. I have to confess, you know, listening to you, it is a bit disheartening. But I… You know, I just tell myself what I hear, I have to find my pockets, find my pockets and just do… There’s still a lot of beauty in the world and you can still find—

ELIAS: Yes, there is.

ANN: — health and vibrancy and… It does make me sad. I choose to be sad. But… But you know what? We will just have to see how all this unfolds.

ELIAS: I agree. And—

ANN: I’m not—

ELIAS: It’s enough that you continue to do your part.

ANN: Yeah. And I’m sure I will focus somewhere living on a nice, clean, healthy, vibrant planet.

ELIAS: Yes, you do.

ANN: So, I’ll just go visit that focus.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well.

ANN: All right. Wait, I’m probably, yeah, getting close, so the last thing – and I know you might say, “Oh, it’s up to you,” (Elias laughs) but what are the chances of me having contact with an alien in this focus?

ELIAS: An alien. That (pause)… That’s different. That would be a matter of how much you put energy into that.

ANN: Kind of like the projecting thing.

ELIAS: Yes. Yes.

ANN: Hm. All right. Well, we’ll see. I’m not sure how much energy I’ll put into it or not. (Elias laughs) We’ll see if the inspiration strikes. (Elias laughs) I am interested in remote viewing and projecting though, so…

ELIAS: Aha!

ANN: So the other… I remember reading a Seth book. Since we do this at night sometimes, I know recall is harder at night, but sometimes if you set the intention before you go to sleep… But I actually think the hypnosis way might be the best route to go.

ELIAS: I would agree.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: I would agree. It would definitely be the easiest, the quickest, and yielding the best results.

ANN: And as you know, easy and quickest, you’re speaking my language! (Elias laughs) Although—

ELIAS: I am aware. (Chuckles)

ANN: I am, now I am being more purposeful, aware and slowing down just a titch.

ELIAS: That’s, that’s excellent.

ANN: Yes. Slowing down just a titch.

ELIAS: (Laughs) But that is very important and purposeful.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: And allows you to be more self-aware and more aware of your reality.

ANN: Yes. And I do have a hunch, as they say, it will pay off in spades.

ELIAS: I agree. Most definitely so. (Chuckles)

ANN: Well, this has been a very fun conversation for me, Elias. Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You’re very welcome. And you see? I will answer your questions.

ANN: You did. You came off some of that mysteriousness and I was very appreciative, very appreciative. (Both laugh) It was fun. It was a lot of fun and actually—

ELIAS: I agree.

ANN: I could get a little disheartened by the environment stuff, but I am very excited about the technology and the possibility of E.T. contact and… I mean, that’s kind of fun, Elias. It’s just kind of fun.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: So…

ELIAS: I agree. (Chuckles)

ANN: All right. Well, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. And I shall tremendously, tremendously be looking forward to our next meeting and what you might present to me then. (Laughs)

ANN: Yes. Oh, me too! Me too! (Elias laughs) I think from here on now, we’re going to start having more fun, more fun in these sessions. It’s about time. Focus on fun.

ELIAS: Excellent. (Chuckles)

ANN: All right. I love you. Mwah!

ELIAS: I express to you, my friend, I love you also and I treasure our friendship.

ANN: I do as well.

ELIAS: Until our next meeting, au revoir.

ANN: Au revoir.


(Elias departs after 1 hour 2 minutes)


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