Thursday, August 17, 2006 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Tracy (Rafaela)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

TRACY: Hello, Elias! It’s lovely to be talking to you again. (Elias laughs) I have another few pages of impressions I’d like to ask you about.

ELIAS: Very well.

TRACY: The first one I’ve got written down is I was thinking about my focus as Fanny Kramer in London who was married to Jakob – and I just got this yesterday – that Jakob Kramer, who was my husband in that focus, was a focus of my father, and that he was a pianist.

ELIAS: Correct.

TRACY: Thank you. I had a little meditation thing when I was looking at picture of a cave in Ethiopia, Sof Omar. I saw a black man there, and I thought that it was a focus of somebody on the Seth lists called Bill Ingle, and that his name was Fayna.

ELIAS: Correct.

TRACY: Thank you. And there was a white woman actually there as well, and I thought that was me.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Could you tell me the name of her?

ELIAS: Barbara.

TRACY: Barbara! Is this a past or a future…?

ELIAS: Past.

TRACY: Thank you. I looked at some pictures of Dogon, in Mali, and I’m sure I must have a focus there. Do I?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Can you tell me a time frame, please?

ELIAS: And your impression?

TRACY: Oh, a long time ago, I think. I don’t really know. I haven’t investigated fully on that one because I keep getting swept in other directions. (Elias laughs) I’ll investigate that one. A while ago, a month or so ago, I was fascinated with Peru, and I found a man called Percy Harrison Fawcett. I’m wondering if I have a focus as his brother or something to do with that family.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: As the brother?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Thank you. I asked you last time if I had a focus as an Indian saint, and now I’d like to venture an impression on who it was. Is it Sri Yukteswar?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: That’s an actual focus, is it?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: A friend is very interested in, and has been for some time, in Yogananda. Does my friend have a focus either as Yogananda or somebody in that sort of time frame and group?

ELIAS: In that time frame, as a follower.

TRACY: As a follower of Yogananda?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: He’s a follower of Yogananda now. This just suddenly came to me today: the artist Van Gogh, is that a focus of me or an observing focus?

ELIAS: You incorporate a focus as a relative.

TRACY: Thanks. Now, I have some famous ones here. I was wondering about famous ones. These are the ones that spring to mind, and I’m thinking they’re probably observing essences. One is Lou Reed, the singer.

ELIAS: That is observing.

TRACY: Cesaria Evora? She’s also a singer.

ELIAS: That is an observing.

TRACY: Thanks, I got those right then. Do I have an older focus than that in the Cabo Verde Islands?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: I’ve seen pictures on the Internet, and it looks as if there are similar pyramids there to the one that I have here in Salitre. Is that right?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Thank you. Rapha the Giant, going back a while there, I had a feeling about that as well. Is that a focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Yes! This is a question I’ve had in my mind for quite some time but didn’t like to really ask. Do I have a current Palestinian focus or a recently disengaged one?

ELIAS: Recently disengaged, yes.

TRACY: Was he a terrorist or a suicide bomber?

ELIAS: Actually no, but would be considered a radical.

TRACY: Thank you. I had a couple of dreams in the recent past about the English royal family, and I feel quite close to Prince Charles. I wondered if that was an observing role or if I have some type of an observing role in the family.

ELIAS: Observing and counterpart.

TRACY: Of Prince Charles?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Aubrey Beardsley, I just suddenly remembered that I had an interest in him earlier. Would that be an observing role too?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Also, when I was a teenager, Albrecht Dürer, the painter?

ELIAS: Counterpart, and briefly a student.

TRACY: Thank you. Now, I had an incredible meditation experience about Nefertiti, I think it was, and one of her children. It was incredible to witness the sort of mother love that she had for the child. I felt like I was observing them both. Do I have a focus as either one of those or as a part of that family?

ELIAS: A child.

TRACY: As one of her children?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Thank you. Now, I had a very bizarre thought once. I was in the bathroom, and I was thinking of you but I said Elvis instead, and for some reason I connected you with Elvis Presley. I can’t quite see how that can be. Can you explain why I got that strange thing?

ELIAS: Perhaps an association with revolutionary.

TRACY: Thanks. I had an image of a young man who looked like a conquistador, or he had those kinds of clothes on, I think. He was on a beach, and he had dark hair and a mustache, and I got the impression that it was a shared focus that I had with you. But I don’t know whether that man was you or me.

ELIAS: That was myself.

TRACY: And I had a focus with you in that time frame, yes?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: This suddenly came to me last night. Have I 44 shared focuses with you?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Oh good! I got that. Wow! I got one as a Danish farmer, and then I got something about pigs.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Goats keep cropping up and also horses, but goats – I’m wondering, is that my essence animal?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: I also keep getting, and other people keep seeing it as well, they see a horse with a rider on it sort of connected with me. I’m wondering what that is,

ELIAS: That would be also another focus.

TRACY: Another focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: I had a little imagery of Jeanne/Lucille that we shared a focus as poor Americans. I saw a woman and a baby and an old man, and somebody was shouting for Anna Rae.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: So, is one of us Anna Rae?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Which one?

ELIAS: The mother.

TRACY: And that would be Jeanne?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: And I would be the child?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Thanks. I tried once to sort put a face to my essence Rafaela, which might have been a bit silly, but I did get a face and it seemed to me to be a Greek focus, an old, ancient one.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Sometimes this face morphs into a chatty New York girl. Is that a focus that has the same face as the Greek focus?

ELIAS: Very similar.

TRACY: And is she current?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: This sentence popped in, and I don’t know where from. It was, I think, me saying, “I’m going to catch up on the center guard. Don’t leave Sawyer.” I’m curious as to where I was and who I was when I was saying that.

ELIAS: That is a future focus.

TRACY: Thanks. Now, cloud imagery: I had incredible – well, I often do – but yesterday I’m thinking it was incredible, and Nanaiis, KC, posted some aurora photographs. She asked me to ask you: Is her focus Spock on the Arduin?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Is any of this cloud imagery that I got yesterday to do with the Arduin also?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Thank you. The Salitre pyramid near here, I’ve been doing a group meditation and we did one last Friday, and there are questions from a few of us about this. Yaglin was there, and he was in a party mood. I’d just like to sort of confirm this, although I’m pretty sure he was there.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: And Jane was there, and she took me skateboarding down the side of the pyramid.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Yes, that was wonderful! Going down the path towards there, there was a big white ball of light with sort of a green edge, and there was something silhouetted in front of it. I’ve got “Fantak” written down. Could you tell me who, what that represented, that ball of light, please?

ELIAS: That actually represents the interconnection of the collective energy participating.

TRACY: Then I saw an orange patch on the right. For some reason I’m thinking that may be KC.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Curtis is part of the group. He saw a blue tiled interior to the Salitre pyramid. Was that right at one time?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Could you give me a time frame on that please?

ELIAS: Ah, and shall you not continue your investigation?

TRACY: Franci saw hooded people in robes. Well, I was going to ask you a time frame on that. She didn’t ask me to ask you, but just out of curiosity… But you may tell me to investigate that too, yeah?

ELIAS: Yes, for that would be in the same time framework.

TRACY: So Curtis and Franci were both in the same time.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: That’s helpful, because this is all very interesting stuff. Now Emily, my stepdaughter, I’m wondering if she has a bad memory of a focus there, a sort of reluctance, and also wondering if my friend Rachel, Gina, who’s also part of the meditation group, myself, and possibly KC all share a focus there that was not very pleasant.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

TRACY: Thank you. Bridgy has some questions. She saw a Roman. She thinks she has a Roman focus there and was wondering if you would give her a time frame.

ELIAS: That would be a different time framework. That would be 100 BC.

TRACY: She also saw that all of us, as a meditation group, we’re all there happily together. She thinks that’s either in the future or in a very, very ancient past. Could you clarify that one, please?

ELIAS: Future.

TRACY: There’s seems to be more future things than past, in some ways. She also saw sailors or Vikings, and then she saw them sailing up to Carthage and whatnot. She would like a time frame for that too, please.

ELIAS: (Pause) That would be eighth century.

TRACY: Gina saw some horse riders and a lot of men on foot looking weary and whatnot and moving through. I was wondering about the time frame on that and if what she was seeing was the Moorish focus that I had with Rachel when we were riding through there.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: And the time frame of that?

ELIAS: That would be 14th century.

TRACY: Also, I was looking around to see who was there at the Salitre meditation, and I conjured up an image of Seth as he appears in his portrait by Rob Butts. It sort of morphed into an old woman – it wasn’t very clear – with a hat on. I mentioned it to Bridgy, and she showed me a picture, a portrait, that was from a New Orleans museum by Carl Kronenburg, and she already had the impression that you were the woman in the portrait and that Mary was the artist.

ELIAS: (Pause) Correct.

TRACY: And is that the same woman that I saw in the meditation?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: She got a direct connection to the Canaria, to the Canary Islands, with the pyramid.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: So, she got her questions right. Jim’s question: he got that we were priests together in an early Egyptian dynasty and that we were called Light Bringers.

ELIAS: Correct.

TRACY: Is it a continuation of this energy at Salitre?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: He also got that we, as a group, shared a focus in England just to have fun, and I was wondering what the time frame would be.

ELIAS: (Pause) Correct. Early 16th century.

TRACY: Thanks. For some reason I was going to think that was turn of the 19th century. The back of the Salitre pyramid appears to be caved in, but KC got that she didn’t think that it had caved in, that it was built that way for some reason. I also once had an image that there were buildings all up that side. KC and I both don’t feel so good about that side as we do about the other side. I was wondering if you could comment on that.

ELIAS: Your impressions are correct, and your experiences in association with that area are what you would term to be unpleasant and also incorporated your deaths.

TRACY: So, obviously we had another focus that was more concerned with the other side and was better?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Gina saw Salitre as well, that possibly in some kind of a future time frame that it was some kind of a park, and that we were all sitting there in kind of a park situation.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Could you tell me a time frame on that please, Elias?

ELIAS: (Pause) 24th century.

TRACY: Well, that’s (inaudible). About 30 years ago I had an experience with a couple of people, my friend and my husband at the time, with a Ouija board, and we spoke for quite some time, a month or so, supposedly to some people from another planet. I’ve been curious about this but can’t actually remember a lot about it. Were they people from another planet? That’s my first question.

ELIAS: (Pause) Yes, but also other dimensionally.

TRACY: And the planet was called Naran?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Also on the subject of the Ouija board, previous to speaking to these people, my friend was there and he ended up taking back to America with him something awful (inaudible). Can you tell me if there’s any way at all I can go about helping him get over that? He’s pretty much over it, but he still feels it there in the background and that he battles a force of evil. He mentions it again from time to time. He’s coming over to Salitre in a couple of months’ time, and with his history and with the energy there I think he has a little bit of apprehension. I wonder if there’s anything useful that you could say about that.

ELIAS: It is not evil; it is unfamiliar. In this, what he has experienced is another energy of an other-dimensional focus, and that energy is expressed very differently. Therefore, it may be translated in association with the individual’s beliefs and what is known to him in this dimension as evil, but the reason that it is being translated in that manner is that it is a strong energy. It is merely a translation. There is no necessity for fear or apprehension or uncomfortableness, for there is no harmfulness associated with it. It is merely a very different expression of energy than he is accustomed to.

You within your reality, although you are each individual and unique, you express a similar type of energy that fits with the design of your physical dimension. Therefore, it is comfortable and easily recognized. When you allow yourselves to tap into some other-dimensional expressions or energies, they do not necessarily fit in your reality, and the energy may be very different, and in that, very unfamiliar. That can be somewhat unnerving or generate apprehension, and that can influence an individual to configure that energy or generate an association with it in some type of negative manner in relation to their expressed beliefs now and their associations with evil or good.

TRACY: Thank you. That’s very, very, very helpful. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

TRACY: Changing the subject quite a bit, my mother-in-law is here at the moment, Maureen. Her husband John disengaged in May, I think it was. We were all sitting round the table on Sunday night, and I had an impression that he was there actually, and that I was sort of talking to him a little bit. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: This is the first time anything sort of like this has happened. Then on the way home, I suddenly started writing things down, that Maureen and John had 43 past shared focuses, and 17 future.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Oh, this is interesting, because I’ve never actually sort of done this. “Roger” came to me. Would that be John’s essence name?

ELIAS: That is a focus name.

TRACY: And that all of us, including myself, shared a focus in Portugal in the 1300s as fishermen?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Also that John was a child called Françoise, a female child, I think, and Amelia, his niece, was her mother in France in 1897?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: This is interesting. Also, we all had a Chinese focus that wasn’t a very nice focus, and we didn’t at the time even know what year it was, but it may have been the 1500s.

ELIAS: Fourteen hundreds.

TRACY: Thank you. I got some names as well. This was in Florida, and I think early 1900s, the same group of people: two black people, Annie Barclay, who was a focus of John, Jim Cussons, who was a focus of me, and a white shop owner who was Maureen, and her name was Maude Hammer.

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: So, I was talking to John on Sunday night, and I got the impression that he wanted me to tell Maureen that he was there, but I hesitated on this one. Does he want me to tell her?

ELIAS: (Pause) In a manner of speaking, as an assurance of his presence and his supportiveness.

TRACY: Thanks. Now, a month or so ago, I had a future focus meditation and tried to access a few future focuses. One came through quite clear, and it looked like Gandalf, but I got the name Randolph. It was an old man with a long white beard in a room full of books, and he seemed quite pleased to see me, but I couldn’t hear what he was saying. I thought it was Randolph, and it was a future focus of mine. Then somebody mentioned that you had a focus as Gandalf. Could you clarify that for me please?

ELIAS: Your experience was accurate. That is a future focus of you, and the name is correct.

TRACY: Oh, thank you. I also got the face of Rafaela, like the Greek face, and she was dancing but she had four bodies. I presumed this was a future focus, that she had four bodies but she could dance and merge them into one and back out again. Is this a future focus, and what time frame?

ELIAS: This is an other-dimensional focus.

TRACY: Oh! Okay. Then I had a futuristic one, and I think it was me and Darren. I think I was the man and he was the woman, but I’m not really sure. It was sort of black and white, and we had black and white face markings. The unusual thing was the way we were interacting, in a kind of sensual way but without actually doing anything apparently physically. We were just sort of standing there. I’m curious about that, if that’s a future focus, or (inaudible) or what?

ELIAS: Yes. That is a future focus, and that is incorporating the action of a ritual.

TRACY: What time frame would that be?

ELIAS: That would be in the time framework of the 25th century.

TRACY: I’m back to the horseman thing again. I’ve been exchanging messages and things with, I think his name is Lawrence, but he goes on the internet as R.H.Dragster. I’m wondering if this is a counterpart thing, or I even wonder sometimes if it’s a focus of my own. Could you explain a little bit about that? It’s confusing. We seem to have a lot of telepathic stuff going on.

ELIAS: That is a counterpart action

TRACY: Does he have a focus called Rageh, R-A-G-E-H?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Is this anything to do with Fantak? I keep getting these all muddled up together

ELIAS: (Pause) No.

TRACY: I’ve got a muddle on with that one. There’s a little question here from Dale, on the Elias lists. She had an urge or a craving for mozzarella, and she would like to know the definition, the difference between a craving and an urge.

ELIAS: An urge would be somewhat of a prompting and would be somewhat more subtle. A craving is associated with the body consciousness generating a communication. The urge is associated with more of a preference in the moment. The craving is an actual communication from the body consciousness in relation to some element that it is requiring in that moment.

TRACY: Thank you. There’s a very old lady that my friends and I help to look after sometimes; her name’s Lily K. I got an impression that she was a nurse in World War I, and we that are nursing her now were soldiers.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

TRACY: I don’t know when it was but some time recently, Yaglin, I was in a little room, I couldn’t hear what he was saying, he looked very rushed and busy, and in the end in exasperation he gave me a parcel of information. I wonder if you could explain what that is exactly, please?

ELIAS: And your impression?

TRACY: Well, I don’t know really! He gave me this bundle of stuff, all of these tightly knitted wires and things, gave it to me sort of to open later or to pass it on, sort of pass it on to anybody who wanted it, and I guess I’m saving it for later. Is that about it? (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It is imagery associated with unraveling, unraveling your direction and new discoveries and incorporating new avenues, new awarenesses, and piecing them together, in a manner of speaking, unraveling the tangle of them and piecing them together in order.

TRACY: That sounds good. This is another difficult question, really. Osama Bin Laden, he’s not a focus of mine is he, or is he an observing essence role?

ELIAS: Observing.

TRACY: Now this puzzles me, and I probably shouldn’t even be asking, but just so that I know whether I’m on the right track or not, there’s a girl from India with a kidney problem who posts on the Seth lists. Whenever I read her posts, right from the first one, I have the impression that it’s Thomas B. writing the posts. I don’t know whether he is doing that, pretending to be her, or is it another focus of Tom or a counterpart or what? Just so I know why I keep thinking this.

ELIAS: Counterpart.

TRACY: Thanks very much. I had a dream recently. I didn’t remember much, but basically I woke up to the sound of Sumari singing, and either I was in the sky or above looking down at some kind of rice paddies or salt flats, this cultivation. I wonder if you could comment on that, please, Elias.

ELIAS: (Pause) That would be associated with another focus also.

TRACY: Would this be an ancient Sumerian focus or an Iraqi focus?

ELIAS: The first, yes,

TRACY: Thanks. Before I even started with the Seth books and things, I had a dream, and all it was in the dream was “Eye of Horus, Eye of Horus, write it down, write it down,” so I wrote it down. Why was that?

ELIAS: A trigger point or what you may term to be a portal. It can be incorporated as a dream trigger or even as a meditational or visualization trigger point, in which you can incorporate it as a portal to other areas of consciousness, similar to what was expressed as the Gates of Horn.

TRACY: Oh yes! Because it was a trigger point, actually. It started me looking at lucid dreaming websites. Now with our group meditation, a couple of weeks ago we all met at Philippe Park in Florida, an Indian mound, and I got quite very, very strong color impressions about the various people. I wonder if you could tell me if it was just an energy-at-the-time color, or if it’s their sort of essence color or focus color? Gina, I got powder blue.

ELIAS: I would express to you that the colors that you were tapping into were the energy expression of the individuals at that time.

TRACY: It wasn’t more, then.

ELIAS: The general projection of their energy field at that time.

TRACY: Thanks. So, the colors that I saw when I looked down at me were ultramarine blue with little bits of pink at the back. Was that simply my energy expression at the time, or what color am I?!

ELIAS: Yes, that was your energy at that time.

TRACY: What would be my essence color? I mean I know there’s a certain shade of green, but I know it doesn’t have to be my favorite color. What essence color would I be?

ELIAS: Essence color would be what you would term to be avocado.

TRACY: Not quite the green I like, but okay. And my focus color?

ELIAS: And your impression?

TRACY: Is it the green that I do like, a sort of blue-green?

ELIAS: Focus color, burnt umber.

TRACY: Oh! Well, you surprise me saying that! This Philippe Park meditation, Sheila saw me as an Indian princess and something to do with seashells. Do I have a focus there at these mounds in Florida as an Indian princess or whatever?

ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.

TRACY: I’m going through my notes to get my list of questions, here. I’ve got “Ninhursag” next to Ki L, and I’ve also got three other names, Anu, Enlil, Enki, and Ninhursag. I think that these relate to my focus in 3200, I think it was, which I thought was a Sumerian thing. Were these the names of the four people that I saw?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: Which one was the one I called Ralph? Why did I get Ralph, Sue, Helen, and David?

ELIAS: They are translations.

TRACY: So which of those would be the one that was me?

ELIAS: And your impression?

TRACY: I would be guessing. (Laughs) Anu?

ELIAS: Yes.

TRACY: So, that was the man, then. (Elias chuckles) Now, Atlantis. Deane and his Atlantis portal, I didn’t really have a lot of success with trying to do this Atlantis meditation, probably some hesitation on my part, but I think this was something to do with this. I got a dog that was a man or a woman in a grey raincoat but the head was of a dog, and the hands were like human hands, but they were covered in hair. Is this something to do with Atlantis, or is this something else, another dimension?

ELIAS: That would be another dimension.

TRACY: I also got with it a sparkly, spiky sunflower thing with a bent stem. First, I was looking for the most prominent thing in Atlantis. Then it seemed to be Gina’s remote-view earring that I was picking up. And then I saw Deane’s book cover, and there was a similar shape on that. I’m wondering which of those it was.

ELIAS: All of them.

TRACY: Recently I got one that seems to be a current (inaudible) soldiers in some kind of a food tent having a beer, and they looked a bit serious. Then there was a string of bombs afterwards and then silence. I had “Iraq” written down, and I don’t know whether it was Iran or Iraq, and a current focus fighting there.

ELIAS: That would be a current focus, and that would be in Baghdad.

TRACY: As an American?

ELIAS: No.

TRACY: Now I have some questions about Deane and Atlantis, but I don’t really feel like I want to go there at the moment, so I think that’s just about it.

ELIAS: Very well.

TRACY: Thank you very much! (Elias laughs) I’m really very pleased again, and thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend, and I shall be offering my energy to you as always in encouragement. I shall also depart in expressing an acknowledgment of you in directing yourself and evidencing that to yourself in your environment.

TRACY: I’m not quite sure what you mean, but… (Laughs)

ELIAS: In the peacefulness in your environment.

TRACY: Oh, okay, good. Thank you. (Both laugh) Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I express great appreciation to you, my friend.

TRACY: Thank you, Elias, thank you very much. I’m looking forward to it too.

ELIAS: In great lovingness, au revoir.

TRACY: Bye-bye. Thank you.

(Elias departs after 43 minutes.)

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