Sunday, November 4, 2007 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Jean-Baptiste (Araili) and Eric (Yuki)

ELIAS: Good afternoon.

JIB: Good afternoon Elias, how are you?

ELIAS: Haha, as always and yourself?

JIB: Very fine, having a lot of fun.

ELIAS: (chuckles) And what shall we discuss?

JIB: We have many subjects to discuss, but we want to have some focus confirmations before. Some that we have ourselves impressions, and some that Iona told Eric or myself. First I’ll ask about the focuses of Eric and I that we think are in the post-shift, just post-shift time framework. I call them Adrian and Lucio, Adrian is a focus of myself and Lucio is a focus of Eric. They are helping us in our current explorations. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: Are they twins?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. Is the painting Eric did from one sketch I did of Adrian , is it accurate, like them having fair hair and muscled body and...

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: Are they identical twins?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. I wanted also to know if they could shift shapes, their body or stuff like that?

ELIAS: To an extent, yes.

JIB: OK, to what extent?

ELIAS: They can alter features, they can alter size. They do not entirely alter shape into an entirely different type of shape, but they can alter size and features. They can also alter hair and eye color.

JIB: OK, that’s what I was thinking. I wanted also to know about an impression of Iona. Is Lord Byron a focus of Eric?

ELIAS: Observing.

JIB: Observing? OK. (Eric chuckles) I feel also that I’m observing of his half-sister Augusta. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: And that the essence Midora is observing or directing of their daughter Medora.

ELIAS: Also observing.

JIB: Observing also? OK. I had a dream about a poem written by Byron, and that was speaking of a ”mexican slut”. I wanted to know if it’s connected to that?

ELIAS: In what capacity?

JIB: Is that dream about Byron connected to my observing of Augusta and Eric observing of Byron?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. Iona also had the impression that Eric and I are brothel owners, that I’m the man and Eric is the woman, and she saw a TV show a few weeks ago about Dennis Hoff and Sunset Thomas who are brothel owners currently. She wanted to know if I’m Dennis Hoff and Eric is Sunset Thomas.

ELIAS: This would also be observing and counterparts.

JIB: Observing and counterparts.

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. Eric tells me that Iona asked to tell you she wanted a recount because she has the answer that Eric was directing of Byron with the program you told was accurate for her.

ELIAS: Clarify.

JIB : (Eric and Jib chuckle) It was just a joke actually, because she spoke with you about the program she uses to confirm her impressions and that when she asked if Eric was directing essence of Byron, the program told ”yes”.

ELIAS: (Chuckles)

JIB: So she said jokingly she wanted a recount from you.

ELIAS: Hahaha.

JIB: Talking about recount, we want to know about our stats of total numbering of focuses. I’m having very weird impression that I can’t clarify myself. It is very hard for me to get a number about that. I think it is connected to some beliefs about the more you have focuses and the more you are self worthy or stuff like that. Yesterday I was asking during the Arkandin session about my total numbering of focuses, and I wasn’t getting myself any response from him, and it was when Francie asked the question that Arkandin answered the question. And it was like I myself didn’t want to get the answer. For the answer she got 1253 for the total numbering of focuses for myself. And actually it makes sense because 12 and 53 are very significant numbers for me currently, and I wanted to know if it was accurate.

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: So I have 1253 focuses?

ELIAS: Presently, yes.

JIB: OK. We also wanted to know for Eric.

ELIAS: 1462.

JIB: And our shared numbering of focuses? Has it fluctuated since last time when you told us it was 703?

ELIAS: It has slightly increased.

JIB: What do you mean by slightly? Is [the total] more than 800?

ELIAS: No. It has increased presently by 12.

JIB: Oh (chuckles) interesting. To what is related the number I got like once I was just relaxing and I got the number 9150, what is it connected to?

ELIAS: That is a potential. What you are taping into is a potential increase of focuses.

JIB: A potential increase? OK. That was weird because the number just popped in and it was like very significant for me. That’s why I thought it was my numbering of focuses at that time.

ELIAS: It is a potential, it has not occurred yet, but it is a strong potential.

JIB: OK. I won’t ask you what will make me create this number of focuses, that will be a fun exploration for me.

ELIAS: (chuckles)

JIB: I also wanted to know about the connection between my sister Marguerite and Marcy. When we asked about the connection between Marcy and myself in the Eschraiel focus we had the impression that Marcy was the sister of Eschraiel, and when I was focusing on the question to give my impression to Arkandin, I also thought of my sister Marguerite and he said that they were of the same essence. Would that be accurate?
Because we think actually it is not the same directing essence, but there is a connection I quite clearly feel — there is a similar energy.

ELIAS: There is a similar energy. But no, they are not the same essence.

JIB: Is this connected to a fragmentation, the similar energy or?

ELIAS: They do incorporate some connection, not entirely, but some connection in fragmentation. But that would not necessarily be associated with the similarity in energy. These 2 essences generate a similar tone and in that they also generate similar energy as essence.

JIB: OK. That’s very interesting. Eric you want to ask a question about your tile ?

ERIC: Oh yes. The tile that I asked last time and you told me to investigate, actually my impression just changed, just before the session. I think there are 2 tiles actually: one is linked to the Sumari family and is about ejection of energy structures, and the other is reversed and associated with the Gramada family and about injection of energy structures.

ELIAS: Correct.

ERIC: OK. Cool.

JIB: I wanted to ask a question about tile also. I drew some picture when I was younger, and I connected it to a dimension with a sun that I called Alienor. [It was connected to my story of Georges and Salome] I thought I could introduce it as a tile also in the city. That maybe it was linked to several families of consciousness. I’ll describe it to you so you can have that for the record. [It is composed of one golden disk. On this golden disk there are three green gemstones, forming a triangle, pointing down. There is another plain ivory white triangle in which there is an emerald green triangle, in which there is a symbol that I associate with someone kneeling or maybe praying, and I associate it with being centered on self. I also associate this tile to the 3 orientations. Would that be correct?

ELIAS: Yes. And what families would you associate this with?

JIB: I was wondering if it was connected to all families.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIB: OK. I also had the impression that it may act as a portal between dimensions.

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: Great! There are other characteristics or?

ELIAS: That would be its function.

JIB: Really? Is it connected to the gates I created in that story? The nine gates that were apparently connected to the nine families or?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking yes, for it is associated with all of the families, and it is a portal that anyone associated with any family could easily access.

JIB: Wow! That is interesting.

ELIAS: Therefore your imagery of the gates was merely your translation of what you are now entering as a creation.

JIB: You mean in the story also that we are writing with Eric, Francie and Tracy? Or is it more connected to the portal and...

ELIAS: A story is the translation...

JIB: Of what we have created?

ELIAS: Yes, of what you have created in this portal, which can serve also as an example to you of how individuals generate stories of what already actually exists but not necessarily in their own reality.

JIB: Is this tile that I’ve created in a manner of speaking, is it from another dimension?

ELIAS: No. It is a doorway TO other dimensions.

JIB: OK, so what is the association I created with Alienor that I thought was another dimension, is it just because it was...

ELIAS: For it is an entranceway.

JIB: OK, an entranceway to many dimensions and with that symbol I connected to the Alienor dimension at that time?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK, in the Alienor dimension that we introduce again now in the shared story, are there 12 essence families?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. I introduced again another dimension that I call Asaris. It is like a binary star. It is a star where there are blue men civilization, but it is a translation because I feel their dimension is very different from ours. And I have an energy exchange with an essence that we call Blöhmul, and he’s like helping me in the translation of the characteristics and the movements of energies in this dimension. It is like an energy exchange with him.

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: I’ll tell you about the impressions I had about that dimension. I perceived that their society is a society of merchants or traders of knowledge, explorers of dimensions. It’s like they project aspects of themselves to other dimensions (...), and they create shapes in these other dimensions as ”bluemen” or maybe other shapes to be comfortable in those dimensions. And they are pooling at times their energies in their dimension to create one projection in another dimension maybe, and it was like in the story we introduced the character of Andrimiñ and he is a projection from a focus of Blöhmul and from a focus of Tomkin in the Asaris dimension. And they are aware at the same time of their focuses in their own dimension and of their focuses in the other dimensions. Would that be accurate?

ELIAS: Yes that would be an accurate translation.

JIB: I feel that at times I introduce distortions but that I can identify when I do that.

ELIAS: I would agree, and you have, for what would be somewhat of a distortion would be identifying them as blue men, but you are aware that that is a translation, but that is acceptable.

JIB: Yes. I had a dream concerning this story about the legend of the weaving princess. I call her Atiara. She is, in a manner of speaking, the one who introduced the blue men in her dimension, like the blue men came and they introduced portals to travel throughout this world and it all began with the weaving princess, is that accurate or?

ELIAS: As a translation, yes.

JIB: Ok. I also had an impression yesterday during the Arkandin session about a focus of myself and I was like completely turning my attention inside, like not creating connections with other individuals or creating connections very differently. And I felt very cold and he was like white skinned. To me he felt like ill, but he wasn’t ill, it was very very weird and I think he was one of the Assassins I created in that dimension, or that I translated as Assassin.

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. I’ll ask again a question about dreams. I had a dream a few days ago about a ”zero equation”. I think it’s connected to what Eric/Valerian is doing in his own research about consciousness and equations and mathematics and physics. In that dream, the woman was telling that these equations were very important. It was like these equations are currently ”impossible” in our understanding but that they are quite significant to understand and to manipulate our perception. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, I would agree. I would not necessarily express that they are impossible but I would express a validation as to all of the other presentments in this dream imagery. As I expressed to that individual he stands upon a threshold. It is possible for him to generate this discovery and it would be significant, but it will also be quite challenging. But he is generating significant movement in that direction.

JIB: OK. I have the impression that these equations I dreamt of were about perception and balance and threshold also, where we can change our perception and also serve as portals maybe.

ELIAS: Yes you are quite correct, that is quite accurate.

JIB: OK, I’ll investigate that further. Eric wanted to know also if our intermingling of energies or almost continuous mergences [...] have modified the initial story of Georges and Salome I wrote and that we are writing together now?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: And are Georges and Salome translations of what we are doing currently Eric and I, and of what we may or shall create futurely?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. There are significant movements in that story.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And you also are creating significant movements.

JIB: About these movements, since I met him, I’m completely up-siding down my reality.

ELIAS: HAHAHAHA.

JIB: I’m creating many many changes, and it is hard to keep track... and just to keep my focus on self and not just do change for changing. It’s like I broke up with my boyfriend and I’m creating similar changes in my work, and it’s like it can change from one moment to another and it’s not at all absolute. But I know the line of probability I want to follow, in a manner of speaking. If I let my energy just flow into that, it’s going quite fast and easily.

ELIAS: I’m quite understanding and I am acknowledging of you for you are allowing for the unfolding, and in that you are generating a considerable flexibility which can serve you well.

JIB: Yes. I feel I’ve many obstacles in my creations and it seems they are connected to absolutes about image or appearance,... and they are also connected to the way I use my thought process as the directing and choosing part of myself. That’s what I was doing before but now it’s changing and it’s quite unfamiliar to just let it be like an imprinting of movement, the translator, and focus on other part of myself, other aspects that are the ones that are doing what the thought process is translating.

ELIAS: I’m understanding, and in that I would be acknowledging you once again. And I understand that it is unfamiliar, and in being unfamiliar, at times it may be somewhat confusing or at times even somewhat a bit overwhelming; for it may seem at times that you are incorporating no direction, but in actuality you are; for this is the movement into paying attention to the unfolding of the process rather than concentrating upon the outcome, and allowing yourself to move in a different manner in appreciating the process and appreciating watching how it is unfolding, but also knowing that you are directing in. Even without a plan. HAHAHA.

JIB: Hahaha, Quite. It was like that about the desire we have to go abroad with Eric, we thought of the US first, but then there were clues or hints that headed us to Canada, but we are realizing it is not important now where to go, it is just the being together, in a manner of speaking.

ELIAS: I would agree. It is the beginning of a new adventure, and in that adventure there is an inclusion of exploring, in many different manners: exploring internally, exploring externally, exploring in actions, exploring in locations; a new adventure which can become a shared adventure of excitement and a treasure hunt.

JIB: Haha, yes.

ELIAS: And how many treasures you may find... (Chuckles)

JIB: It’s very very exciting and full of treasures already. (Polly barks)

ELIAS: Haha.

JIB: I’m like opening completely to him and I’ve never done that before and it’s like I don’t want to hide anything or to camouflage anything.

ELIAS: And you may be surprised at what freedom that brings you.

JIB: Yes, already, haha.

ELIAS: HAHA, and in that how much more fully you can appreciate. And that my friends can be more than amazing, it can be wondrous.

JIB: Yes.

ELIAS: I offer my congratulations to each of you.

JIB: Thank you, haha.

ELIAS: HAHAHAHA.

JIB: We have... I have a question about what I’m creating with my body consciousness, because it’s like people belonging to the Tumold family are creating body manifestations or ”illnesses”, and I don’t feel it’s like illnesses but it’s manifestation... it’s difficult to really express that with words. I really feel all these energies that I’m creating, these directions that I’m simultaneously walking or exploring, and there are many many beliefs that are influencing, and many many associations that are unfolding, and that I’m realizing are not absolutes and are just like paintings on a wall that are covering the windows (and the) outside, and I have the impression that if I was just cleaning all these associations and clearing the windows or just... making the wall fall apart, that there would be nothing outside, that it would be to huge to create and to... that there was nothing outside. But actually I’m realizing that I’m creating the outside also... from the inside.

ELIAS: Yes you are correct, the inside is what creates the outside. And in that when you generate this...

JIB: I was asking you that because I was wondering what I’m creating with my teeth. And that it is connected to some beliefs I have of body consciousness that can’t regenerate itself or that the body is continuously degenerating or that the dentistry or the dentists in our time framework are just eliminating the surface thing and the physical symptoms until there is nothing left and that they are just damaging more and more each time they do their job actually. And that they can’t help or... and that it’s not that I want to do actually just remove my teeth or stuff like that. It’s not what is happening but it’s I feel the direction I’m creating in energy but I don’t want to create that.

ELIAS: (sighs) What are you actually creating?

JIB: I’m creating at times pain in my teeth. And there are holes in my teeth with the stuff they put in it to ”heal” the teeth but it’s not really healing it’s just a patch to slow the process of deterioration in my interpretation, and (refocusing on what I create) I’m creating this pain in my teeth when I’m focused outside or when I’m really judgmental about myself I think.

ELIAS: I would agree. And I would agree with your assessment in association with the physicians that manage teeth so to speak, but I would also express that this is not to say that their job, so to speak, is invalid, for it is quite valid in associations with many individuals’ beliefs, and therefore what they do is expressed in conjunction with mass beliefs and what many many many individuals adhere to or generate as expressed beliefs. I’m understanding the difference in direction that you are moving, and in that it is not necessarily that you do not incorporate the belief that there is some significance of the position of a dentist, but that you are moving your attention in different directions now for you have offered yourself more information and you have been noticing more and therefore have widened your awareness again to an extent to recognize that the manifestation with the teeth correlates with other actions that you are doing. Therefore becomes a signal to you, which the body consciousness is very effective at generating these types of signals, and in that you have begun noticing that your manifestation of your teeth occurs when you are generating certain actions inwardly. Which also moves, and you are correct, with the imagery that you were expressing in relation to the walls and the paintings and the windows, and outside of the walls there would appear to be nothing, but the actual imagery is that what is created inwardly is what creates the outward manifestations.

JIB: OK.

ELIAS: Therefore whatever is being generated inwardly is what will create what is beyond the wall. I would express an acknowledgment of your analogy for it is quite creative but it is also quite accurate.

JIB: About the associations?

ELIAS: Yes, for this is common to all individuals that you generate camouflages or coverings or overridings that create obstacles or prevent you from clearly viewing certain expressions or certain aspects of yourself and in that you are not as clearly objectively aware of your energy or what you are doing, and as you move the paintings so to speak from covering the windows or perhaps even remove the paintings from the walls and crumble the walls, the paintings being associations and beliefs that remain but they are not necessarily an obstruction.

JIB: Yes. I also wanted to ask confirmation that we are the ones who create the beliefs around us and, because I had the impression that when I read ”beliefs here and beliefs there” that beliefs were something forced upon us or something like that but I’m really realizing that I’m the one who is creating them and that they are also my energy.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, they are not thrust upon you. It is not a matter of the beliefs already exist and you absorb them. You are creating the beliefs in association with this reality; for that is the design of this reality. This is the reason that I continue to express to all of you that your beliefs are not your enemy. It is more your ignorance that is your enemy. It is not your beliefs, it is your lack of awareness of them that creates the obstacles or the blocks. And it is not the paintings that are bad, it is the position of the paintings.

JIB: The paintings are just there and they are just like decorations or...

ELIAS: Correct. It is the position of them that may create the obstruction and...

JIB: We can just move them into another place or just move ourselves to see differently

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct, congratulations; for this is what is being expressed and what I have been expressing for an ongoing time framework; for in this it is not a matter of the paintings, it is a matter of your own realization of their position. It is not your beliefs that are hindering you, it is your lack of awareness of your automatic associations. Those are the walls. The paintings are present upon the walls, but it is difficult for you to see beyond the walls, for those are the automatic associations that are almost invisible to you for you do not pay attention to them, unless they are presented to you in a manner that will disturb you.

JIB: Yes.

ELIAS: If they are presented to you in a manner that will disturb you then you will pay attention to them but not entirely, for you will justify them. Therefore keeping the walls in place.

JIB: Yes.

ELIAS: This is the reason that I have been expressing to individuals recently that it is important to discover and recognize what their automatic associations are and whether they are actually valid for themselves or not; for you all generate associations that you do not think of but that are present within you that may not even be valid to yourself in a particular...

JIB: When you say valid, is it connected to the connections that exist between focuses or between energies and stuff like that?

ELIAS: Such as you all generate associations with duplicity, you all incorporate your own preferences, ideas, ideals, philosophies and opinions in association with duplicity which is the identification of any good, bad, right, wrong. You do this in relation to behaviors, to actions, to situations, even to expressions as innocuous as buildings. You generate automatic associations in relation to duplicity. But many of those associations may not necessarily be valid to yourself in relation to other individuals for it may not be actually involving you, therefore it may not be relevant for you. But you generate the association regardless. And when you become partially aware of it or when you notice it is when it is presented to you through the action of another individual, that you would generate these automatic associations of the good, bad, right, wrong. Which is the reason that you, in like manner to many many other individuals, have incorporated this idea that beliefs are bad and that they are thrust upon you, and this is the reason that you so desperately want to eliminate them. What you are not recognizing, (intently) but you are now, is that you are correct, it is not the beliefs, it is the association THAT is the wall. The association of what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong. That are so automatic that create the obstruction of your view of reality, that create the obstruction of your perception, and create a narrowness in your perception for the associations are the wall.

JIB: OK. About paintings and drawings,... I also had a dream a few weeks ago... it was not really a dream, it was more like an experience, a very very strong experience where I was like connecting to a collective of painters or... it was like I was completely opening myself to this Regional Area and I had the impression it was RA3. It was like offering me different techniques and different methods or not methods but different directions in this exploration of painting and drawing. What was that?

ELIAS: Once again I would express an acknowledgment of your accuracy. Yes, you were tapping into Regional Area 3, and I would express this was not a dream, this was a projection, and in that, when you move into Regional Area 3, you move into different types of collective and you can specifically move into collectives of specific subjects. And in that, what you will encounter is the energy deposits of the whole, so to speak, of the collective of that particular subject. Therefore if you are moving into the subject of painting, in Regional Area 3, you would move into...

JIB: (I wasn’t hearing what Elias was saying for a few moments and thought he had stopped speaking) I want to ask about different experiences we had with Eric, uncomfortable experiences like the Hokusai experience that we talked about last time with you. Eric had a strange feeling in his throat like he had nausea or thing like that, he was very uncomfortable, and it was constriction. It was like it was coming from nowhere, not from him, not necessarily from,... and he wanted to know where it was coming from.

ELIAS: At times, when you are generating a considerable openness with each other, you can actually allow other energies to penetrate also. Energies that maybe physically around you or energies that you may have been involved with in recent time framework that may have been uncomfortable, and in the openness that you express between each other, at times you can unintentionally allow those other energies to be received also, and you will recognize that they in a manner of speaking do not belong, and in that if you stop momentarily, center yourself and refocus, you can dissipate that energy and that expression and you can expel that energy and therefore stop the experience.

JIB: OK. Was it the same thing I did with the nauseous feeling or the feeling of dying or of disengaging. It was like someone was having hard time after a chemo(therapy) or... I had the impression it was connected to maybe the colleague (with whom) I had a drink just before, and it was also connecting to other focuses or something like that. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: For my colleague and for the other energies?

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct.

JIB: OK. It is very interesting.

ELIAS: (Chuckles)

JIB: Was it partially connecting to Francie for Eric?

ELIAS: Yes.

JIB: OK. Do you have more questions Eric?

ERIC: No, I think... thank you for your answers.

ELIAS: You are very welcome my dear friends. I am very encouraging of each of you in you new adventure (chuckles) and I shall be anticipating our interaction again soon (chuckles)

JIB: (laughs) Thank you very much.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) To each of you, in tremendous appreciation and in genuine lovingness, my dear dear friends, au revoir.

ERIC & JIB: Au revoir.


1
Eric’s note: as seen here
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see inserted tiles here:

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