Sunday, May 17, 1998   © 1998 (Group)
Participants:  Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), David (Mylo), Bobbi (Jale), Sue (Catherine), Paul (Caroll), and Jo (Tyl).
Vic's note:  This session was conducted long-distance via speaker phone, and is the first Castaic group session since 2/1/98.
Elias arrives at 6:38 PM. (Arrival time was fourteen seconds)

ELIAS:  Good evening! (The group responds)  This evening we shall be continuing with our discussion that we have started with our young Sumafis recently, involving the connective tissue of consciousness.  In this, we shall be discussing Regional Area 3 and the collective consciousness aspect of this area of consciousness.

There are many aspects to Regional Area 3.  This one of the collective consciousness holds significance in offering you many answers to questions that you have held for much time period, and also may be helpful in your understanding of certain elements of this shift in consciousness.

You have been offered prophecies previously, and you have also gathered information of all different types which also lend to certain prophecies and create many of your myths.  The information that is connected to is that information which is within Regional Area 3.  Individuals tap into this information quite often, but in translating the information that they tap into within Regional Area 3, they also create interpretations and speculations as to the meaning of this information.  Therefore, they create your myths to be fitting this information into your particular dimension and creating some sort of reasonable explanations for imagery that they do not understand.  This may be viewed in many different aspects.

Some individuals tap into this area of consciousness and receive information not pertaining to this particular dimension.  Therefore, you have created situations of individuals espousing upon the connections between yourselves and beings within other dimensions.  You have also created myths in the areas of your mythology partially, and in areas of Atlantis, which also do not belong in this particular dimension, but parallel enough that the information is formed to fit into this dimension, and therefore creating of myths.

This information which is tapped through Regional Area 3 also creates a situation for prophecies.  There are many prophecies that are being espoused on presently in conjunction with your new millennium.

As your century turns, so to speak, you look to all types of signs of a new age.  You look to prophecies of elements which have been stated, that there is the possibility or the probability for many actions to be occurring.  These may be destructive actions or they may be what you term to be positive actions.  Either direction matters not, in one respect.  In the respect that it is all information that is being gathered from Regional Area 3 and is not necessarily information that may be connected to your particular dimension, this would be the information in itself mattering not, but in gathering such information and sharing objectively this information and the interpretations of the information which then become distortions, there is much energy lent to these myths, which become prophecies.  In this, the energy lent to them creates the possibility for probabilities.  In this, the information which is tapped and inserted into your dimension begins to matter, for it may be altering of your reality in directions that you may not necessarily choose to have be accomplished.

In this, you may look to many different types of information which has been tapped through Regional Area 3.  Presently, individuals occupy themselves with much attention in the areas of all of your pyramids upon your planet and all of the cultures that have surrounded those structures, these being in your Egyptian cultures and also in your Central and South American cultures, for they bear similarities to each other.  The reason that they bear similarities to each other is that they have been created through tapping information within Regional Area 3.

You are all connected through this tissue of consciousness, which you may all tap into and you all share.  I have stated many times to you that one individual in one location of your planet may be experiencing one action, and another individual halfway round your globe may be experiencing the identical same action in connection with the first individual.  Your sciences demonstrate this also with the behavior of your atoms and your electrons.  Your photons behave in similar manners.  It matters not their physical location, for their communication is instantaneous.  It is not a communication in the manner that one is expressed and another received.  It is an instantaneous knowing of the same information.

In like manner, you all as individuals within this dimension create the same action, and then you marvel at yourselves that you may be creating of quite similar expressions and expressing to yourselves that you hold no objective knowledge of other cultures which create the same expressions, and this becomes a wonderment to you!  As I have stated, the reason that these elements are created so very similarly is that you are all tapping into the same storehouse, so to speak, of information and sharing this information.  Not only do you create physically similar structures, but your cultures develop in similar manners.

Now; the reason this information holds importance is that I wish you to be recognizing that information tapped through Regional Area 3 is not always in conjunction with your particular dimension.  Therefore, there is a vast area that may be distorted in this.  In this situation, you shall be viewing futurely many areas of distortion.  As individuals move more actively into the action of this shift in consciousness and begin to open to their awareness, they shall also allow more of a flow of information, which flows through Regional Area 3.  In this, there shall also be many interpretations of the information which is tapped.  This has already begun.

You may look about you and be listening to other individuals and they shall be expressing of great movements which shall be occurring, in their interpretation, in connection with ancient civilizations.  You may observe situations that shall be expressed, such as prophecies of Mayan civilizations that shall be occurring futurely, alignments with certain cultures, new powerful energy sources that may be being produced within the area of your Arabic countries holding the great pyramids.  What is occurring in these actions is that individuals are opening their awareness, and in this they are also connecting with information which is held within Regional Area 3.  But, not holding the information of WHAT they are tapping, they view themselves to be receiving revelations, and in these revelations they are expounding on these and offering their own interpretations, which many other individuals subsequently collectively join in agreement to these speculations and interpretations.  This creates a situation not only of distortion, but of lending energy to those distortions.

(Intently)  The more energy which is lent in the direction of these distortions, the more those distortions move into the area of potentiality for actualization of probabilities.  Therefore, it is important that individuals be offered information and allow themselves the opportunity to recognize their interpretations through their belief systems of what they speculate to be true, for not all of the information that they may be receiving in their revelations is relative to this particular dimension.

You may offer yourselves many examples of this throughout your history and upon your bookshelves presently.  You may account for many such instances in which individuals have tapped information which is not relative to your particular dimension, but has been made to fit in a manner which is being accepted.  This becomes dangerous in that your objective is to be creating the least amount of trauma in this shift in consciousness, and with the influx of information there may be much confusion within the distortion, and therefore there may be trauma as individuals are swayed into distraction and not necessarily paying attention to the actual shift in consciousness itself, but awaiting strange developments which may not be occurring, for they are not relative to this dimension.  (All very deliberately)

Or, you may be creating of certain actions which are less desirable, as you have lent them much energy in creating new belief systems based upon the speculations and interpretations of information from Regional Area 3 that does not belong in your particular dimension.

Now; the area that this becomes quite confusing is that Regional Area 3 also provides much information which IS pertaining to your particular dimension.  There are many aspects of information which to this present now have been ignored, so to speak, which are validating of the information which I offer to you and other teachers have offered to you previously.

We speak of nine essence families.  Within your ancient cultures that you look to for prophecies presently, there are also mentionings of nine "masters" or nine "guides," nine "spirits of night."  These are the hidden elements, so to speak, within the information which is contained within Regional Area 3 which also has been tapped, but does not provide the sensationalism or the drama that may be provided to you in ideas of famine and earthquakes.  Therefore, you pay little attention to these aspects of connective tissue, but you magnate to the elements of distortion and lend energy to these distorting factors, which then, as I have stated, creates the potentiality for creating probabilities in these areas.  (Ten-second pause)

Shall you be little mice once again?  (Grinning, and laughter)  I am so captivating, am I not?  (Chuckling)  And I may drone on all evening to your waiting little ears, and you shall hang upon every word, shall you not??  (A slightly "evil" chuckle here)

Vic's note:  Both Mary and I taped this session.  Because we were using a speaker phone on our end, there are times when words were cut off on both tapes.  So, I am transcribing this session from both tapes.  There are words on our tape that aren't on Mary's tape, and vice versa.  I will indicate all such words with {brackets}.

DAVID:  Are you open for questions now?

ELIAS:  You may.

JO:  I have a question about what you were just talking about.  There was some imagery that came up that had to do with biblical imagery that had to do with Rose imagery, and I'm wondering if this is another example of {what you described earlier about....}

ELIAS:  Many individuals within this time period are connecting with imagery of Rose.  Some individuals are connecting with this imagery in physical aspects with the plant or the flower that you term to be rose, and they may be interpreting this as objective imagery in awareness of the movement of this shift.

At times, when there are "surge movements," so to speak, individuals shall be presenting themselves with more objective imagery of Rose, for this is the reminder objectively to you of this action of the shift.  Therefore, at times you may view yourselves to be paying little attention to any imagery in connection with Rose, and then you may view that you involve yourself within a time framework of presenting yourselves with imagery continuously of Rose, and this would be an indication to you that there is an energy surge occurring in conjunction with this shift.

JO:  {Thank you.}  With regard to biblical prophecy and Rose imagery, is this an example of a myth that is formed that is of the more accurate variety, as information from Regional Area 3?

ELIAS:  This also be my meaning, that many prophecies shall be surfacing, so to speak, presently and within your near future time frameworks from all different areas.  Different mythologies, different philosophies, and also your religions shall all be surfacing within their prophecies, and this may be confusing to you if you are allowing yourselves to move into the direction of correlating all of these prophecies too closely with your shift in consciousness.  There are some aspects of these prophecies or myths that are in correlation with this shift in consciousness, but the most overt prophecies are not.  These have been selected, so to speak -- tapped into by individuals within many different time frameworks within this particular dimension -- and interpreted in conjunction with the mythology or the religion or the philosophy and made to fit.  Therefore, they appear to you as plausible and you may be accepting of these, therefore lending energy to these, and in that lending energy to the potentiality of creating the probability of their actualization.

This is the manner that your fulfilled prophecies occur.  There is enough energy lent to that which has been projected, and in that the energy has created the potentiality for creating a probability, and as more energy is lent in that direction, it becomes no longer a potentiality but an actual probability, and as more energy is lent, it then becomes an actualization within your dimension.

As I have stated, you create the probabilities within the moment, not before you.  Therefore, the prophecies merely create the potentiality for the probability and its creation, but I wish you to understand that looking to other time frameworks and elements which have been set forth within the dawn of your Christianity, these may be quite distorting and confusing to you.  Therefore, I express to you to be watchful as to HOW you are lending your energy.

PAUL:  Does this work for all prophecy then?  Are you saying that all prophecy, as it manifests in our probable realities here, that {it contains the potential} first, or primarily?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Precognition also filters through Regional Area 3, although this is an action of tapping into one very precise event, and for the most part, tapping this type of information, in your terms, holds a very limited time framework.  You do not tap into precognitive information or what you think of as precognitive information in extended time frameworks, but short or limited time frameworks, which is different from prophesying.

PAUL:  So someone like Nostradamus ... I'm just trying to think of his work that he did and seeing things.  I'm not an expert on gauging the accuracy, but my question is about accuracy and what would be helpful for individuals who are tapping into this information to think of in terms of accuracy.  That may not be the right question, but how is someone like Nostradamus seemingly so accurate, or was he not?  Did he have great distortion also, in your terms?

ELIAS:  This be the area that you hold such confusion.  You look to an individual which has tapped information within Regional Area 3.  Now; to your thinking, you THINK that this individual holds this information, and therefore this also is truth.  He is creating of predictions, and in this, as you view that these predictions materialize, you credit the individual with having held the information and therefore having been the catalyst for the creation of these probabilities.  In actuality, the individual merely taps information and then interprets the information into your objective reality, which may be extreme distortions, but they provide you with an objective explanation of the vision in terms that you may be accepting, and in this the collective lends energy to the actualization of that very speculation which has been set forth.

This be the reason that I offer you this information and caution you to be aware of what information you are lending energy to, for you have many examples of prophecies that you collectively HAVE actualized.  Those prophecies were not set forth as a probability before you, and that you merely awaited its occurrence as an inevitable action.  Those prophecies are set forth as an interpretation by an individual of information that has been tapped within Regional Area 3 which may not necessarily be relative to your particular dimension, but within the interpretation and within the lending of energy -- the acceptance of the interpretation and the lending of energy to this interpretation -- you then create the actualization.

You collectively are creating the actualization.  The element was not existing previously and you were merely awaiting its materialization.  You are creating of it as you are lending energy in the acceptance of what is set forth.

PAUL:  So just to use a Nostradamus example, there was a famous prediction he made in his time about King Henry II, who would have a jousting accident and would pass away that way, and that came to manifest.  So in the way that you're explaining it to us, is that an example of him tuning into a potential, putting it out there, and Henry, in his probable present moment, choosing to manifest that in the collective for all the political and mass event ramifications that the death of a king would have?  Is that an example of the collective manifesting a prophecy?  The follow-up question is, was that a distortion of an other-dimensional thing, or is that an example of where Nostradamus did tune into something that he didn't distort as much, in terms of it relating to this dimension?

ELIAS:  You may use this as a very good example.  The information -- the impression and the visualization -- which was tapped by Regional Area 3 was not of the king, but of certain objects which were unfamiliar within the visualization, and the translation of the objects and the action of these objects was set forth in an interpretation of the closest possible physical manifestation of similar objects.  In this, the individual of Nostradamus creates an interpretation; views that this must be what this vision is expressing.  This interpretation is directly influenced by the known elements of the individual's reality and their held belief systems.  Now in this, as this is set forth to the masses, the energy is lent in the direction that the individuals lean towards; what they are choosing for the creation.  Therefore, it is influencing in energy of the probabilities, which then become actualized.  Now in this also, the individual acting out the probability is also a participant, for the individual themself also is influenced by the belief system and the strength of the energy.

You may express this also in other terms.  You all presently occupy a location which has developed a reputation for shaking earth.  You have been offered information and explanation as to the creation of this and how you are creating of this.  An individual may be projecting and prophesying that you may be creating of one of your earthquakes, and if lent enough energy by the collective which occupies this area, you may manifest and actualize this probability, which was a prophecy with merely the potential to be a probability but not actualized, and an individual may express that certain individuals may be disengaging in the action of this earthquake.  The individual may prophesy that a specific location may be more involved with this earthquake than another location and that this shall cause great damage and loss of life, so to speak.  In lending energy to this prophecy, you collectively may create this, and those individuals which shall be affected in loss of life, so to speak, are also participants in accepting the belief of the prophecy, and also themselves lending energy to its creation.  Therefore, they are not victims and the collective has not created their reality for them, but they are active participants in creating the whole of the reality, even to the point of their disengagement.

VICKI:  So basically, are you saying that a fascination with a prophecy, whether it's a biblical prophecy or an other-dimensional reality like Atlantis or the myth of the destruction of Atlantis, a fascination with those things can be affecting of actualizing those types of probabilities here?

ELIAS:  Correct.  In focusing much attention in these areas, you are distracting yourselves from the action of your shift and the lessening of trauma in this shift, and focusing upon elements which you have created within your mythologies and your prophecies, and in that you are lending energy to the potentiality of the creation of the probabilities.

BOBBI:  {Considering that these} prophecies are so talked about and widely known, is just being what you term "a good little sapling" enough?  Is the interconnectedness of all consciousness just doing that, is that {enough to deflect} or sort of neutralize those probabilities?  (Reference at the end of this transcript)

ELIAS:  Your objective and your subjective work within harmony.  If it be merely enough to be subjectively lending energy and offering information, I would not be speaking with you.  But it is also important that you hold an objective awareness of the actions of this shift, that there may be individuals that may be offering information to other individuals, as a tree branching out continuously.

I offer the information to you in continuation of information that has already been offered to you, that you may also be offering information to other individuals, and in this you may be helpful in the lessening of trauma within this shift, and also, in a manner of speaking, deflecting that energy which is lent in the direction of the potentiality of the probabilities for trauma.

DAVID:  Well, that kind of works neatly with regard to what we're trying to do presently in getting the information out.  We're working on a series of booklets.  I'd like to ask you a question with regard to how you feel about the information you gave to us in 1995.  We have used some of that in one of our booklets.  Is it okay to go ahead and use that?

ELIAS:  I am aware of the dissension that has been building within this area.  I shall express to you that all of the information which I have offered may be useful, but I may also express to you that as you each hold an awareness of the information that I have offered to you, and to an extent hold a clarity as to the intent of this information and of myself, then in this I also express to you that as I have stated previously, you hold a responsibility in being the holders of this information.

The intent of this essence is to be delivering information to you within the least amount of distortion.  At time periods, I have allowed for factors of distorting elements purposefully, recognizing that the information may be re-addressed as the individuals widened their awareness to be assimilating more information with less distortion.  This also has been accomplished in conjunction to the energy waves of this shift.  As your time framework moves on, so to speak, in your linear perception, the action of this shift and the action of your opening to your awarenesses accelerates tremendously.

Let me express an example, which you may be once again understanding of with consideration to your physical location.  You hold an understanding that if you are creating of an earthquake and the registration of this earthquake is a four, so to speak, it shall be of a certain magnitude.  If that escalates to one point more, it shall be one hundred times the strength in intensity.  In like manner, this shift moves in increasing intensity.  It has moved slowly throughout your century.  It has been building energy, and now you enter the time framework of the energy bursts.  Therefore, within one year, so to speak, you may be creating tremendous movement within your awareness and movement into the action of this shift in consciousness, and within the very next year you shall be creating of movement that may be one hundred times as accelerated.  Therefore, your capacity for understanding and your lack of blocking of information increases tremendously within small time frameworks.  In this, you hold the responsibility to be offering information accurately and within the least amount of distortion.

This is not to say that information offered within the beginning throes of our engagement of these sessions may not be shared and offered to individuals, but also must be shared responsibly and with the knowing of the delivery of the information, that there have been time frameworks throughout these sessions that I have allowed for areas of distortion temporarily, knowing that the individuals receiving the information within that particular time frame did not hold the ability to assimilate more information.

DAVID:  So, in regard to a block of information that we're hoping to use, there are a few words that are in there that Vicki feels do not belong.  Is it okay to change them to the present-day wording?

ELIAS:  As to this information, I may express to you as I have expressed previously, you hold many books upon your shelves.  Therefore, if you are choosing to move in the direction of creating another book and delivering THIS information, then I am suggesting to you that you not be altering of the information as it is presented.  You may be offering additional information in clarification and for understanding, but the information offered has been offered purposefully and with care.  Therefore, it shall speak of its own and needs no alteration.

PAUL:  Elias, one comment on that.  We've been discussing / debating about the '95 material, and I'm just wondering about what you said.  It sounds like as long as the context within which the information was offered is clearly stated, and perhaps in our own words which of course represent our own belief systems, our own interpretations of that context, as long as that context is presented within our own attempt at least distortion, then that's acceptable to you?

ELIAS:  Correct; and in this, be mindful of your responsibility for the least amount of distortion.  You are of the Sumafi, for the most part.  Some of the individuals are not, but for the most part many of you are of the Sumafi, and the information is delivered by the Sumafi.  Therefore, it holds significance that it also be presented within that intent.  If this be not so, then the information shall be delivered by a different family within a different context.

PAUL:  Can you give us (sounded like "Is this") your definition of the least acceptable distortion, from our point of view of writing additional narrative or written words to support the context within which this information could be delivered?

ELIAS:  Correct.  This is what we term to be a cooperative effort, and if you are presenting the information in your book form -- if you are presenting information that has allowed for distortion purposefully -- this needs be stated, for I have offered explanations to you throughout our engagement of these sessions.  I have offered the explanation that at times there has been an allowance for certain elements of distortion temporarily, which ARE re-addressed, merely for the reason that the individuals may not be assimilating that information within that particular time frame.

PAUL:  It also stands to reason that within this present now we also have a limited understanding of the information, and sometimes we get caught up in thinking that perhaps six months, six years down the road you will present additional information that will clear up our misunderstanding.  That only gets us to the point of powerlessness to act, to get anything done.  Can you address that situation?

ELIAS:  You hold information in many areas presently which is accurate and holds the least amount of distortion.  You hold enough information and enough understanding that if you are so choosing to be presenting information in this form, you may do so accurately and without distortion.  You are correct that at any given point there is more information than you may be assimilating, and that as you widen your awareness I shall also continue to be offering additional information for clarification.  But within this present time frame, you do hold MUCH information in MANY areas; many aspects of reality, much information concerning this shift in consciousness and concerning your individual and mass reality.  Therefore, you do hold the ability to be compiling the information in an accurate manner.

PAUL:  {Another} question.  We're prototyping a glossary, and one of our debates is our ability to write a short descriptive paragraph of the concept and support that with pieces of the information, the material as delivered.  Does that concept fit within your definition of acceptable least distortion?

ELIAS:  You may be offering my definitions of terminology, which I have offered within this information definitions of all of the terminology that I have introduced to you, and you may, if you are so choosing, be offering your interpretations, but once again I express to you a cautioning in the area of remembrance of your responsibility, and that in this you may specify that these are your interpretations.

PAUL:  So within that context, that's acceptable least distortion?

ELIAS:  Correct.

PAUL:  {Thank you.}

ELIAS:  I shall be expressing of a break, and you may continue with your questioning as we {return.}

BREAK   5:46 PM
RESUME  6:03 PM (Arrival time was five seconds)

ELIAS:  Continuing.  (Seven-second pause)  Or not!  (Laughter)

BOBBI:  I have a question.  I received an impression to connect with Julia, and I'm wondering who Julia is?  (Fifteen-second pause)

ELIAS:  Hmm.  This is a counterpart individual, which you may be connecting within consciousness and you may be offering yourself information as to the action of this counterpart situation.

BOBBI:  {And she is} physically focused in this time?

ELIAS:  Correct.

BOBBI:  {Oh, okay.}  I'm not sure how to go about doing that, but....

ELIAS:  You have already opened to the invitation.  Therefore, if you are allowing yourself concentration in this direction and if you are allowing yourself a time period of relaxation and lack of interruption, you may be concentrating upon this individual, and in this you shall be receiving information through impressions, and if you are allowing yourself more of an accomplishment, you may allow yourself visualizations also.

BOBBI:  Of the person, of Julia?

Vic's note:  Here, there is a twenty-two-second pause on our tape in which it appears that Elias did not hear Bobbi, so she asks another question which also isn't heard, as bracketed below.

BOBBI:  {I guess I don't understand what kind of counterpart information I would be receiving from her.}  (Ten-second pause)

VICKI:  {Did we} lose our connection?  (Six-second pause)

Vic's note:  On Mary's tape, there is a forty-five-second pause between Elias saying "... you may allow yourself visualizations also" and me saying "... lose our connection" above.

CATHY:  (To Ron, who is in the other room)  JC RonBoy!

RON:  What?  (As he enters the room we're in)

VICKI:  (To Ron)  Did we lose our connection?

PAUL:  (To Elias)  You still there, old friend?

ELIAS:  You have not lost your connection!  (Chuckling, and we laugh)

VICKI:  Well, there was an awfully long pause there!

RON:  Seventeen minutes!  (This is in reference to a recent error in a transcript, and we all crack up)

ELIAS:  This be your choice.  I am awaiting you!

VICKI:  {Well,} Bobbi asked a couple of questions and there was no response.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  I offered the response within these questions.

BOBBI:  {Well, thank you.}  (An eight-second pause, as Elias didn't hear this either, and we're all a little confused)

ELIAS:  Shall we engage our game also this evening?  (Several replies of "Yeah!")

PAUL:  Oh boy!  Thought you'd never ask!

ELIAS:  Our young Sumafis are quite enthusiastic about our game!

JO:  This old Ilda is also!  (Elias chuckles, and we all crack up)  And I would like to submit, in the category art expression, hoaxes as being Sumari.

ELIAS:  Acceptable.  (Pause)  No clinking??  (Laughter)

DAVID:  We can't.  We're broke!

ELIAS:  Quite disappointing!  (We used to toss pennies into a bowl)

PAUL:  Here's a clink!  (He tosses an object onto the table, making a dull sound)  Not the same!  (Elias chuckles)

BOBBI:  {I have} a tile.  It's a glowing blue sphere inside a translucent blue pyramid on a black field, I guess meaning self, with Sumafi.

ELIAS:  Acceptable.

VICKI:  In foods, eggs with Ilda.

ELIAS:  One point.

CATHY:  Okay, I'll go!  Physically focused essence connections, with books, The Knight In Rusty Armor with the pyramid.

ELIAS:  One point.

RON:  {In songs, with Sumafi, A Walk In The Black Forest.}  (Sixteen-second pause)  {Did you hear me?}  (Four-second pause)

PAUL:  (To Ron)  {I guess not.  You better get closer.}  (There is a thirty-second pause on Mary's tape between "One point" and Ron's second verbalization below)

RON:  Okay, one more time.  In songs, with Sumafi, A Walk In The Black Forest.

ELIAS:  Acceptable.

Vic's note:  Now that I've listened to both tapes, it doesn't seem to make sense that some verbalizations weren't heard on Mary's tape.

PAUL:  I have a question about the game, Elias, before I make my submission.  Back in July, Vicki submitted a question for me via computer.  I was wondering about when we make connections with individuals, are we connecting with the focus or with the essence, and in your answer you talked about the nature of impressions that you are apparently judging in the game.  My question is about the nature of these impressions and your judging, perception, and interpretation of them.  You said in that answer that "the placement of the impression may be off, this being the balancing of the intellect and the intuition.  You receive the impression and you allow your intellect to place it within a category.  Therefore, you now have another piece of information," and I'm paraphrasing here, "concerning the action of your game."

Back in the fall, Vic submitted some questions about the muses in the game for me, and Mary and I engaged in a little friendly joust, as it were, with the nine muses in submitting them.  In session #252, 12/21/97, Vic submitted for me Terpsichore with Zuli and received a less probable, and then in session #257, 1/11/{98}, Mary submitted under muses Terpsichore with Zuli and received one point.  (Elias smiles and nods)  I feel like a lawyer here!  (Laughter)  It must be a bleed-through!  Also, then in session #260, 1/18/98, Vic submitted for me under muses Urania as Gramada, and I received a less probable.  And then in session #264, 2/1/98, Mary submitted Urania/Gramada and received one point.  By inference, there's only one muse left.  At that point, we'd received acceptable or one point for eight of the nine muses.  The only one remaining would be Polyhymnia with Borledim, which I submitted via Vicki in session #260 and received a less probable.  So, I am confused, old friend!  If you could explain the seeming contradiction and your perception of judging these impressions, I'd really appreciate it!  (Elias is grinning)

ELIAS:  Absolutely!  The reason that you have received the less probable is that I have stated also that although a specific entry may be made in connection with our game, if you are not entering an entry from an impression, it shall not be accepted.  This has been stated many times, and has been offered many examples with this.

Now; in this I express to you that if you are examining your action with this particular line of entries, not necessarily with other entries but with this particular line of entries, you shall notice that you have entered the category and the entries, of which you did connect with some of the entries as impressions, but with most of the entries you were allowing your knowledge of these particular muses and their supposed function -- your interpretation of their function -- to dictate to you a logical placement.  In this, you were not allowing for your own impressions to be made clear.

Now; in actuality, you would have been acquiring the same conclusion, but you also do not offer yourself the opportunity to view the difference between allowing yourself the connection of the impression and trusting that, which would hold slightly different reasoning than your intellectual reasoning.

It is correct that you are balancing the intellect and the intuition in the action of this game, and that you are using those elements within your objective awareness which you may term to be your intellect in conjunction with the impressions that you receive intuitionally, but there is a difference in connecting elements into the game before you are allowing the input of the intuition, and in this you are acting merely upon the intellect and not incorporating a balance.  This has occurred many times previously with other individuals.

I express this to you for I also, in participation with you in this game, do you no service in accepting what may be a correct answer but has not been arrived at in the manner that the game itself is providing avenues for, in being helpful to all of you in distinguishing and understanding and identifying impressions.  Although you may arrive at the same answer, you may arrive at the answer differently by allowing yourself to be listening to your impressions through your intuition.  This is an important aspect for you all to be viewing.

I have also expressed previously that I would not be at every instance offering explanation to a less probable answer, for this prompts you as individuals to question and to investigate.  If I am automatically offering you reasoning each time that you are not entirely paying attention within this game, you lean in the direction of not paying attention to my answers either.  Therefore, I await your questioning, as in this situation, and in this you will allow yourself to be listening to the reasoning, and also offer yourself the understanding that there is no judgment in this situation.

The point is not to be judging, but to be offering yourselves practice in what you may term to be a vital area of your own communication to yourselves.  This shall prove to be one of your most valuable tools that you allow yourselves, to be recognizing and listening to your intuition through your impressions; for as I have stated, although you may arrive at the same conclusions, the manner in which you arrive at those same conclusions may be different and in that it shall offer you more information, for there are elements within the intuition that offer you clearer avenues for your choices.  That be the reason that this game holds importance and that we continue within its action.  Are you understanding?

PAUL:  {Yes.}  A follow-up question.  I understand trying to sort through the impression and sort through the thought process that leads to identifying a true impression.  My question is, is an impression the same thing as an impulse?

ELIAS:  Not entirely, for an impression shall always spark a thought and/or a feeling, but an impulse may not necessarily.

PAUL:  {Okay, that's} clear.  So, I'd like to submit my game entry.  In the category of muses, Polyhymnia with Borledim.  (Elias and Paul both start laughing)

JO:  Does the process of elimination count as an impression?

ELIAS:  And I shall offer you an acceptable!  (Still laughing)  And I find this to be quite amusing!

PAUL:  Me too!

SUE:  {I have a question.}  A few months ago when I asked about my family alignment, I didn't know what it was.  I went through half the families, including Vold, and you said no to each of them, and then finally you told me that it was Vold.  Was that for the same reason, because I wasn't going on an impression?  I was just going through them at random?

ELIAS:  Correct.

SUE:  {Okay, that makes sense.}

ELIAS:  These are examples of our continued interaction with each other, and at times in the offering of information that I present to you, you become selective in what you allow yourselves to receive.  You also become complacent in your involvement, and in this it is much more efficient that I allow you to view what you THINK of as mistakes, for you shall be noticing of this, for you evaluate this essence and you pay attention to what you think of as inconsistencies.  Therefore, this attaining your attention is much more efficient and shall remain in your memory much more efficiently than at times that I may merely be expressing the information to you and offering you explanations, as you are not entirely listening.  But eventually you shall be listening and noticing, for you may not be noticing of your own inconsistencies, but you shall be quite aware if you believe that I shall be inconsistent!  (Pause)

VICKI:  I have a question about the tiles.

ELIAS:  (Humorously)  Excuse!  I am believing that there is a hum upon your mechanical instrument, and interference!  Therefore, I am not receiving the communication presently!  (Everybody laughs but me)  Shall we rescind the agreement?  (Pause)

VICKI:  HUH??  (More laughter)

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Do we not hold an agreement?  (Pause)

BOBBI:  (To Vic)  {About speaking on the phone.}

VICKI:  {Oh!}  (The group responds with an exaggerated "Ooohh!")

Vic's note:  Elias and I have had an agreement for three years now that we will not speak on the phone, mostly to avoid a pop-in and thereby allow Mary and I uninterrupted conversation.  I became so involved in the session that I completely forgot about the agreement, and also my statements before the session that I didn't really want to talk to Elias on a damn phone!

ELIAS:  Are we speaking?  (Laughter)

VICKI:  Well, I forgot about it momentarily!

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  Therefore, I may be allowed the privilege of engaging you upon your equipment, may I not?

VICKI:  In this present now, correct!  (Laughter)

ELIAS:  Very well!  In limited situations only!

VICKI:  Absolutely!

ELIAS:  Agreed!  (Chuckling)
 
VICKI:  Alrighty then!  My question is, Ron has had an impression that of the  we've connected with, there are tiles in small groupings, and even though they appear slightly different visually, they incorporate the same action.  Would this be a correct interpretation of his impression?

ELIAS:  Partially.  There are different facets of these tiles, that the tiles incorporate a common action, but within different facets of these tiles, they incorporate subsets of the actions or specialities of that particular action.  Therefore, if you are to visualize a particular tile, in physically connecting with this particular tile in a specific direction, the tile itself may change its appearance in response to the specific speciality of the action, which it shall focus upon.  Therefore, although they may be one tile, each of the representations, each of the visuals, are accurate also.

VICKI:  Margo has described her focal point in a recent session as being a square spiral.  Would she have partially been connecting with the memory tile?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VICKI:  And also, if Margo and I decided to try an experiment and connect with each other within a focus on these two visuals, would that be maybe facilitating of ... would that be a good tool?

ELIAS:  Absolutely, and may be facilitating of your accessing information held with this tile.

VICKI:  Okay, thank you.

RON:  Can I interrupt for a tape change?

ELIAS:  You may.  (Forty-second pause for a tape change at 6:33 PM)

RON:  Okay, we're back!  (Elias grins)

JO:  I would appreciate some guidance with regard to my impressions about my Judea focus.  You had described one of Lawrence's focuses recently as Lydian.  I have the impression, or maybe it's intellectual knowledge -- I'm not sure where to distinguish and that's kind of why I'm asking these questions -- that this wasn't her name, but more of a name that was used to describe where she came from.  Is this correct?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

JO:  And I also have the impression that this is the same person that helped Paul, the woman that has come to us historically as Lydia.  Is this also correct?

ELIAS:  You are correct, although I shall state to you that the information that you hold in what you term to be historically is not entirely accurate.

JO:  {Right.}  I've considered this an intellectual exercise, and now I'm realizing that it is as much of an intuitive one.

ELIAS:  Absolutely.

JO:  So it's helpful to ask these questions to see how I'm filtering.

ELIAS:  In actuality, with regard to this particular time period and these individuals, you hold much information which has been handed down to you, so to speak, through ages, but there is also much distortion in ALL of this information, all of these accounts, and that of your historical accounts also.  Therefore, I am expressing to you that this be an area that you may engage your intuition much more, and you shall be offering yourself more accurate assessments of the actual focus than you shall receive within your historical accounts.  Your historical accounts in this situation may merely add color to the picture.

JO:  {Thank you.}  I'm also wondering if the warrior in Vivien's dream is a focus of Helen's essence.  (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.

JO:  {One more} question, with the understanding that I'm relying on subjectively gained information via Vivien.

ELIAS:  Correct.

JO:  {If you would indulge} me just one more question ... if this event has something to do with my inhibitions in this focus?  (Fifteen-second pause)

ELIAS:  I may express that you are moving through certain elements of these issues that you hold, although I may also express that part of what YOU term to be inhibitions are elements that are involved with your own issues in the area of duplicity, which hold upon you in the area of suggesting to you that you are not entirely adequate, and in this these feelings which are underlying are influencing in many areas, not merely this one.

JO:  {Thank you.}

BOBBI:  {I have a question from my son Chris/Yan.  He has an impression that this is his final focus.  Is that correct?}  (Eighteen-second pause, and then Bobbi tries again)

BOBBI:  {I have a question from....}

ELIAS:  And how be our silent little Shynla?  (Nine-second pause, during which Bobbi moves even closer to the speaker phone)

BOBBI:  I have a question from my son Chris/Yan.  He has an impression that this is his final focus.  Is that correct?

ELIAS:  Yes.

BOBBI:  And he would also like to know, does that mean he does not have any future focuses?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily.

BOBBI:  Okay.  That's what I thought too.  Okay, thanks.

SUE:  I have a question.  Do I have a focus as a woman in Italy in the middle ages who was burnt as a witch?

ELIAS:  Not as a witch.

SUE:  Burnt for some other reason??  (Laughter)

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Not in what you may term to be a ritual burning, but yes; within home, disengaged within a fire which consumed the home.

SUE:  Was the fire deliberately set, or an accident?

CATHY:  There are no accidents!  (We all crack up)

SUE:  Shynla points out that there are no accidents!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  It was not intentionally set.

DAVID:  Elias, one question from me.  I just want to know, what's the issue between me and my mother?  Why do I have this thing with my mother?

CATHY:  For the experience!  (We all crack up again, and Elias grins)

DAVID:  I mean, where is it coming from?

ELIAS:  Look to mirror image, Mylo.  (Pause, and laughter)

DAVID:  {Yes....}  (Laughter)  I don't understand.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Your parent mirrors many things back to you that you hold within yourself that you do not allow yourself to view.  In this, you may offer yourself much information concerning yourself if you are open to be viewing this mirror action.  You hold many similarities.  You have created many similarities within belief systems and within your personality expressions, and in this, this individual offers you the opportunity to view a mirror action, that you may understand yourself more clearly.

DAVID:  I guess I don't accept that type of action in the mirroring effect of similarities because I believe my mother should be a mother?  Is that where it's stemming from?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily.  It is difficult for individuals within physical focus to be facing mirroring action with another individual, for you hold very strong belief systems in the area of NOT looking to yourselves and investigating within yourselves, for you hold much duplicity; and in this, if you are looking to yourselves, you also must be discovering all of those elements about yourself that are bad or distasteful or unacceptable, which they are none of, but this be what your belief systems dictate.  In this, you may look to another individual that is offering you a mirror action, and you may express to yourself all of the elements that you are accepting of that individual within, and this may be helpful to your acceptance of yourself in the elements that the individual is mirroring to you.

DAVID:  Okay, thanks very much.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

PAUL:  {I have a} question, Elias.  Recently I had the opportunity to meet a new friend up in Seaside, Oregon named Harold, and he's very interested in the Elias material and the Seth material and so forth, and he gave me his permission to ask of you his essence name and his family belonging to and alignment.

ELIAS:  Essence name, Lantha; L-A-N-T-H-A.  Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Ilda.

PAUL:  I had an impression driving home thinking about him that within the context of the Oversoul Seven material, this individual had a great similarity to the character of Ram-Ram.  Is there any correlation there?

ELIAS:  A similarity in the expression of this particular focus, you are correct.

PAUL:  {I have one other question} for ... Barry Carter, is it?  (Vic says "Carter")  Carter!  Carter Massie!  Who's Barry Carter?  He must be a baseball player or something!  What's his question, Vic?

VICKI:  Carter's question is, he wants to know exactly where the city is.  He'd like to know the continent, and he'd like to know the latitude and the longitude.  (Laughter)

ELIAS:  (Grinning)  This would be quite difficult to be offering within this present now, for you have not entirely created it!  Therefore, it is not inserted.

PAUL:  {But when it gets} inserted, where will it be inserted??  (Laughter)  {Carter wants to know!}

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Ah, but you have not directed your attention in this area at all, have you?  You have merely directed your attention into the formation of elements within it, but you have not lent energy into its insertion into this dimension or its placement in a location.

PAUL:  {So the} placement is still open, as far as a potential of probabilities?

ELIAS:  Absolutely.

PAUL:  {Cool!  I have a} question, a follow-up on the regional areas, Elias.  The definition I understand for Regional Area 1 is this objective moment point that I'm creating.  I'm in a room with eight individuals, including myself, and a cat.  I'm wondering if, in the definition of Regional Area 1, that I have my own Regional Area 1?  Do we each have our own Regional Area 1?

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, for you each hold your own perception which is creating of your individual reality.  But as I am referring to regional areas, these are not in actuality places, so to speak, in consciousness, but areas of functions of elements of consciousness.  Therefore, as I speak to you of regional areas, I am speaking of areas of consciousness that are encompassing of specific functions and actions and the elements that occupy those areas and functions.

But you are also correct that you each create your individual Regional Area 1, so to speak, in creating your individual reality within your perception.

PAUL:  One other question.  I had an out-of-body experience on March 13th of this year, in which for the first time I was actually able to project consciously out of my body into my bedroom.  So my question is, at the very moment that I separated ... well, I know there's no separation.  At the moment my perception changed and my environment changed, was my experience still within the context of what you call Regional Area 1?

ELIAS:  Yes.  Let me express to you that within an out-of-body experience, as you continue to involve yourself with your objective reality, so to speak, you are projecting your consciousness through space, but continuing within Regional Area 1.

Now; I may also express to you that you hold the ability and it is entirely possible that you may project within what you term to be an out-of-body experience and you may project into different areas of consciousness, but within those experiences that you find yourself moving within familiar areas and with familiar objects, you are continuing to be moving within Regional Area 1 of consciousness.  You are merely moving through space and time, as in differentiation to moving around space and in time.

PAUL:  {So in that} experience, subsequently I explored my house and came back into my bedroom, and I believe, in what you term as a focal point, I dove through the bedroom window and I know I shifted gears, as it were, and I had two basic ... what I describe as a scenario.  (Here, Mary's tape cuts out completely)  One involved an urban situation with a black painter, and the second one involved a college campus that I had (tape comes back on) attempted to connect with in (tape cuts out again) Brattleboro, Vermont.  In those two scenarios, where I know I shifted gears, was I still experiencing in Regional Area (tape comes back on) 1?  (I don't think Elias' audio cut out, only the video)

ELIAS:  Yes, but you are also allowing for a partial dimensional veil-piercing.  Regional Area 1 is much vaster than you realize.  It encompasses much more within the potential for your experiences than you recognize.  You view Regional Area 1 as being very limiting and merely that which is your waking experience, but it encompasses experiences that you may allow yourself beyond your normal, usual focus of attention, for you focus your attention quite singularly, and as you are allowing yourself to open more freely to many more elements within consciousness, you may also view that there is much more expansiveness to Regional Area 1 than you have allowed yourself an awareness of.

Now; also in this, I express to you that you pierce a veil of dimension, for within this dimension there are inclusive many other dimensions, some being very parallel and some being different qualities of different time frameworks.  In this, you have allowed yourself to be piercing a time framework veil within your objective Regional 1 awareness.  You may accomplish this within your waking state also.  Be assured, you may be piercing time veils in your objective waking state.  You may also be accomplishing of this more easily within an out-of-body experience, for you allow yourself more freedom within this state.

PAUL:  Is this out-of-body -- I know it's a general category of consciousness -- is this the primary means with which we will be attaining super-luminal travel in the next fifty years?

ELIAS:  Partially, but not necessarily.  You shall also be acquiring information and the ability to be moving through space by different means, not only within out-of-body experiences.

PAUL:  {Okay, thank you.  That's it for me.  Any other questions?}

VICKI:  {Yeah,} I have another question.  What's connective tissue?

ELIAS:  This is the term that I have chosen to be using in describing that element of Regional Area 3 which is the consciousness that connects you all together in information and experience, that binds you and offers you the similarities in your creations and your experiences, that you may be manifesting within Regional Area 1 and offering yourselves the validation of this interconnectedness.  These links of consciousness within Regional Area 3 are that which you may term to be the connective tissue between you.

VICKI:  {Okay, thank you.}

ELIAS:  I shall express to you this evening that we have held an interesting engagement this evening.  I also express to you that although you view yourselves in part to be separated, be remembering of my expression to Shynla at her separation previously within this forum.  There is no separation, and WE are all interconnected continuously.

I shall be discontinuing this evening and offering to you each much affection, and anticipating our next meeting and also your participation in all of our continued movement within this agenda.  I shall express to you all this evening much lovingness, and bid you adieu.

Elias departs at 7:04 PM.

Following is The Sapling Story, referenced by Bobbi on page 8:
The Sapling Story
September 13, 1995
Session #37 (An excerpt)

I will give you a small story which you may contemplate through this week.  In this, be thinking of belief systems and of connections.

My story incorporates two saplings, both exactly identical, both newly growing; one growing naturally and reaching towards the sun and basking within its rays and drinking naturally of the rain and resting to the moon.  The other is looking around and is viewing the sky and is seeing the sun and is saying to itself, "Maybe I should be growing at night.  The sun is very hot.  It may burn me or it may sap my energy, and the rain is very wet and it gets all over me and I am not sure I am liking of this rain and I am not sure that it is making me grow properly, and maybe I should be investigating where this rain is coming from and I should be analyzing the sunrays to be sure that I am incorporating the proper vitamins, or maybe the moon is more friendly to my growth and I would grow taller if I am growing at nighttime, while this idiot sapling next to me is being stunted by the sun."

And in the morning, the one sapling is stretching its newly formed branches and uncurling its soft leaves and growing within complete trust, and the other sapling in the morning is viewing the same sun and is looking at the beautifully formed other sapling and it is looking like this:  (Here, Elias twists his body and face into a grotesque contortion)

Now; this story is about belief systems and the noticing of these belief systems.  It is also about trust and connection.  It also incorporates proper personal responsibility.  The one trusting sapling incorporates a genuine personal responsibility in not trying to change or help the analyzing sapling, but as it grows true and strong and trusting, it radiates an example.  It shines in its essence as an example to the other sapling, and as the other sapling unconvolutes itself throughout the day, it notices the straight sapling and it chooses the focus of effortlessness and trust as being easier, for it has been shown an example.  Therefore, be all the trusting straight saplings, radiating your example.

© 1998  Vicki Pendley/Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

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