Emotions/Feelings
Topics:
“Emotions/Feelings”
“Retaining/Disposing Objects”
Sunday, April 10, 2011
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Pam (Pviette)
ELIAS: Good morning.
PAM: Good morning Elias. It’s so nice to be with you again.
ELIAS: And you also. And what shall we discuss?
PAM: Well yesterday in a group session, really a lot of good information. And I think I want to start with... First of all, will you define for me the difference between emotional communication and feeling. To me emotion and feeling are interchangeable, and so I struggle with when is it a communication? Like anger I think as both an emotional communication, as it is also a feeling. How do I make that delineation for myself?
ELIAS: Very well
Feelings are connected to emotional communications, this is the reason that it can be confusing to you. For feelings are the signal for an emotional communication. Emotional communications are basically a brief statement in relation to what you are doing in the moment. It is your body consciousness and your subjective awareness generating a statement to your objective awareness in relation to what you are doing in the moment. And generally there is a feeling, a signal that accompanies that to alert you to that communication.
Now, in relation to feelings that are not connected to an emotional communication, this is what we were speaking of yesterday. Feelings that occur that are not associated with what you are doing now.
PAM: Oh, okay. What you are saying they are specifically not connected to emotional communications.
ELIAS: Correct. For there are time frameworks in which you generate feelings, but they are not necessarily connected to what are doing now. Such as if you witness a collision upon your street, and you see individuals that are injured, and in that moment you feel anxious or you feel sad, that is a feeling that is signaling you that you have an emotional communication in response to what is occurring now. And that is expressing to you how you are responding to it, if you are involved in it, if you are not involved in it. In that, you know when you generate a feeling and it is connected to some experience or some event that is occurring now, that that is accompanying an emotional communication. There’s a statement that your subjective awareness is generating to your objective awareness.
PAM: Could you give me a couple of examples of what those brief statements would be like? In the case of viewing a collision is one example. If you’re feeling anxiety what would that statement be?
ELIAS: Dependent upon what your feeling is and what you are doing in that situation, perhaps you may be feeling anxious and noticing yourself moving forward or moving closer to the situation, and in that anxiety feeling, that signal, you may be generating an emotional communication of an automatic response. What you are doing now is rescuing. What you are prompting yourself to do is help.
The emotional communication is generally a brief statement. It is not a paragraph.
PAM: Right, but is it to the point of ”I am moving towards this in a rescue,” or is it more ”I’m feeling anxious because I’m conflicted about whether I want to be involved or not?”
ELIAS: It can be, or it can be not ”whether I want to be involved or not.” If that is the situation it may be a brief communication, this situation is presenting a threat. And that generates that thinking confusion, ”I do not know whether I want to involve myself or not.”
PAM: So the anxiety could be the feeling of not knowing your own confusion.
ELIAS: Correct. This situation is presenting a threat in this moment, and your thinking will evaluate that and express to you [that] you are conflicted, you do not know whether to involve yourself or whether not to involve yourself. That is the inclusion of all of your associations. ”I should be involved, I should not be involved. I should help.” But the emotional communication is making the statement, ”this situation is presenting a threat.”
PAM: Okay, okay. So what you said yesterday impacted me about body consciousness storing memory, and therefore sometimes triggering an automatic response because I’ve always had a really good communication relationship with my body consciousness, but always on a physical level. I’ve been aware that it tells me what it wants for nutrition, what it wants for movement or exercise, how to heal, and it never crossed my mind that it could also be giving me as valuable information in an emotional way. And so I wanted to find out more about that, where I can pay attention.
As an example; I know there are times where my emotional challenges anxiety, which I have felt such a good portion of my life. And then at times it will move into a stronger fear, and even at times depression. Which doesn’t stay long, but so often in the last few years I’ll find myself with a sudden feeling, anxiety or something and haven’t a clue what triggered it. Like I said it is not a cause and effect, so I don’t know where to go with it. It’s like why all of a sudden I’m down in the dumpster like. You know, all over. When I thought I was just going about my day.
ELIAS: Correct. What we were discussing yesterday. In those moments that the feeling does not match what you are doing, and it appears that there is no objective reason for you to be expressing that feeling, and that can be very disconcerting, especially in time frameworks in which the feeling builds and may be somewhat intense, and your are attempting to evaluate, and you are expressing to yourself there is no action that has occurred that warrants this feeling.
For, before I move into the response to that, in the NOW when you are generating an emotional communication there is some action that warrants that signal of the feeling. There is some action occurring that warrants that feeling. Now at times the feeling may be disproportionate for it may also be involving old triggers. Therefore it increases and enhances that feeling. But in some capacity when there is an emotional communication that accompanies that feeling, there is some action occurring in that moment that is prompting an emotional communication, and therefore is justifying that feeling.
When there is not, which occurs frequently with all individuals, that is your signal. Your body consciousness is reacting. It is pulling a memory and accessing that memory that has been triggered by some input of your senses. As I expressed yesterday, and as you are expressing in your example, you may be engaging your mundane activities, and there may not even be another individual involved with you, or interacting with you. You could be generating an action such as sweeping your floor or washing your dishes. And what appears to you, suddenly you are beginning to develop this feeling and it begins to grow and increase and increase. And there is no reason. In that, it could be any fragment of information that has been inputed by your senses. If you are washing your dishes, it could be that your sense of sight caught a glimmer of a bubble in a particular manner that triggered. And the body consciousness is searching memories. And it will find a memory that is connected with that bubble. And when it does it will trigger that feeling that occurred in relation to the previous experience. Now that is unrelated to what you are doing in the now, therefore there is no emotional communication, for there is no necessity for your subjective awareness to be alerting you to what you are doing now. For you are not engaging an action now that is connected with that feeling.
In this, as I expressed in many situations you may not know what the trigger was. It could be a sound, it could be scent, it could be a flash of a sight. But it is not ultimately important that you know what that trigger was. They occur very frequently for there is so much information that your senses input in every moment, in every day. Therefore it is not necessary to analyze. In that, when that occurs, when you notice those feelings occurring that are not associated with now, that is the time framework to pause and to remind your body consciousness or inform your body consciousness to distinguish time. What you are doing in that pause is merely generating a message to your body consciousness, time is a factor for it will not automatically include that.
When you immediately inform your body consciousness that this involves time, it begins to affect the body consciousness differently, in which now is including time in that memory. Generally speaking, the feeling will begin to dissipate very quickly, for the body consciousness is beginning to recognize this is not now, this is a different time framework. It may not entirely dissipate, but this is the reason that I express that it can be very helpful and a trick to merely engage your senses in relation to that feeling, to place it in context by looking at a clock, or looking at a calendar.
Calendars are somewhat more efficient for that includes a day, not merely a time, and in the inclusion of a day that instructs your body consciousness more specifically. Now you are searching for a day to attach to this experience that is triggering this feeling. In that, even if you do not generate an objective recall of the day that triggered, the mere factor of knowing that there was a day that initiated this feeling changes the body consciousness function and allows you to relax. The body consciousness begins to relax, for it knows now this is not this day. When you view the calendar you are being more specific with your body consciousness.
And I will express to you, generally speaking, when these feelings occur they generally do occur on either the same date or the same day, the same day of the week, or the same date as the original occurrence.
Therefore, if you are experiencing these feelings that seem to be inappropriate or being expressed from nowhere in your terms, it is very likely that if it is a Tuesday and it is the sixth of the month, either on the sixth of the month in another time framework an event occurred on that day in which you have a stored memory. Or on a Tuesday that event occurred and your body consciousness is accessing that memory. Your body consciousness is very specific.
PAM: That’s amazing.
ELIAS: It will not incorporate time in relation to NOW and THEN, past or present, but it will very specifically generate that memory, or access that memory in relation to a specific day. This is a Tuesday, that was a Tuesday. It does not differentiate that the Tuesday was ten years prior. It is Tuesday, therefore I have sent input. The visual has sent a message of this sense input, it is triggering memory, this is Tuesday and this is the experience. But in that in knowing when you access your calendar, some event, some experience occurred on this day or on this date at some time in my experience, that is what I’m feeling.
When you can offer yourself even that much information, even if you do not incorporate an objective recall of the event. It matters not. And even if you do not know what time framework that feeling was generated, it is not important, it matters not. What you have done is, you have communicated to the body consciousness, which responds to you by relaxing. And you now become aware of different choices, or that you have choices. When you know that this feeling is not now, this feeling is not connected to now. When you know that you can generate different choices.
As an example; let us say that you are washing your dishes. You are triggered, this feeling seems to occur, and when you are not aware that it is not connected with now, what you automatically do is you in thinking begin searching. Your body consciousness has already searched and immediately found its trigger. You begin to evaluate and analyze, ”What have I been doing? What is occurring? Am I receiving energy from another individual? Is there some occurrence in the world that is happening that I am tapping into?” And you begin to generate this analyzing and analyzing, and thinking and thinking. And that distracts you from doing, or you choose to...
PAM: Isn’t this what you want? To be distracted from the doing, or no?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, for you are eliminating your choices now. You have moved in a direction in which you are not even aware of choices any longer. You are caught in this circle of analyzing, attempting to isolate. Therefore, now you are not offering yourself any choices, or you are retreating. You do not like the feeling, you don’t care what the reason is for the feeling. You do not like it, you want to move away from it, and in that you retreat and you attempt to intentionally distract yourself in some manner to move away from the feeling. In that you are also denying your choices.
Now, let us say in this scenario that you feel very distressed, perhaps even sad, and you do not understand why. And you are searching, searching, searching for a reason. You do not offer yourself any reason, and you choose one choice to retreat from the feeling by closing yourself off, and retreating. You will not engage with an individual. You will be by yourself. You will read a book that you are consumed with. If you knew that choice was not connected to now, you may also recognize that you incorporate many other choices. ”I am feeling uncomfortable. I know this feeling is not now. Therefore I can choose to generate an action that allows me to feel better. I will engage shopping, I enjoy that action. Or I will go to lunch with a friend of mine.” When you do not know you don’t offer yourself those choices.
PAM: You just react.
ELIAS: Correct. Therefore you deny yourself choices which exacerbates the feeling.
PAM: Cause that is what happens to me is when the fear or anxiety, whatever it is gets triggered, what I find is that I lose motivation. I may be on this trajectory to accomplish this, this, and this, and then this hits like lead, and I don’t want to do any of it. Now it all feels pointless. So I’ll do what you said. I’ll either find some way of distracting myself. But I see how that’s even a denial when you do it the way you’re talking about. Distracting yourself. Okay, what will make me feel better?
ELIAS: Correct. For in that moment when you know that the feeling is not connected to now and you are not searching for a reason, you are not incorporating all that time attempting to find a reason. In that, it allows you to not be stuck in the feeling. And it allows you to recognize, ”I do have choices. I can choose what I want to do. If I want to distract myself, I can choose how to distract myself from this feeling. If I do not want to I can also choose to feel it rather than reacting to it and attempting to move away from it. And in that process depleting your motivation and allowing the feeling to influence you in a manner in which you become immobilized, and you have no choices.
That is the point of being aware of what your body consciousness is doing and what it is prompting when you are generating feelings. And in that it allows you to recognize that you do have choices, for feelings are one expression that to this point you still generate that association that they are part of your reality that you do not control. They happen to you and when they happen you have no control over how they happen, or what you do with them. And in that, this is information to allow you to recognize, no, you do incorporate choices. If you choose to employ the word control, you do have control in relation to your feelings. You can generate choices and you can even affect what you are feeling by the choices that you engage. It is merely a matter of being informed in relation to what those feelings are, and knowing the difference between an actual emotional communication that is expressing information to you in the moment, and some feeling that is not related to now. The only aspect that it is related to now is an aspect of sense data that has triggered.
Very well, perhaps in the initial experience you were involving yourself in some capacity with bubbles. Or perhaps you were not involving yourself with bubbles at all, but in the experience that you were engaging, you were aware of a bubble floating by. And in that, the bubble moved your attention to it as a focal point, and now you have generated an association. And in this moment the only connection is the bubble, not actually what you are doing.
PAM: So this new wave is the senses and creation?
ELIAS: Creation and your universe.
PAM: So this aspect of body consciousness communication, I would think has to do with the senses part. I haven’t been aware of very much explanation about the creation of the universe. How do these two go together and be a part of one wave?
ELIAS: They do for your senses are one of your most important avenues of communication and avenues of how you allow yourself to connect and to perceive interconnectiveness. In this, if you can’t involve your senses, you generate perceptions of it does not exist, or it is not entirely real if you cannot include your senses.
Creation and your universe involves your senses for they are very much a part of every aspect that you create in some capacity. And in that it is an involvement in awareness of the possibilities of what lies beyond what your senses connect to yet. That you incorporate the ability to be creating and to be participating in creation, which you already are, in aspects of reality, in your physical realm that your senses have not engaged yet.
PAM: Okay, I understand that.
ELIAS: Yes. Which is also the reason that I expressed initially, this very possibly can be for many of you a fun wave for there is a tremendous capacity for the involvement of imagination. And that aspect is very connected with creation and your universe. And expanding and exploring in imaginative capacities to include more in your reality than you have allowed previously.
PAM: So at the time perhaps your body consciousness is triggering and you’re doing the interruption with the calendar and giving yourself those choices, would it also then make sense to find a way to include imagination in that?
ELIAS: You could.
PAM: And you know wherever that may go, and to perhaps connect the two elements of the wave at that moment. That experience.
ELIAS: Yes. You could, which would also be influencing in turning that experience, and turning it into a more fun exploring or experiment. For now you are involving imagination and you can reconfigure that feeling. Not change it, but reconfigure it in a manner that you can apply it to some form of imagination.
PAM: Okay, thank you.
PAM: I really want your help and I want to move this into some really specific process or method having to do with overwhelm, but I’m going to start it by expressing that I’ve become aware of how many push / pulls scenarios I have in my life with information, technology, there’s a couple others I can’t think of right now.
But as an example; I picked up a book that I enjoyed reading, its a current event type book, and I loved the mystery. I’m ferreting out clues, it’s not true crime, it’s something I’m delving into, an event that occurred and I’d like to know more of what’s behind it. And so I eagerly get the book and start reading it and look forward to reading it, and then I will find times where as I’m reading it there are portions that really generate fear, or all of a sudden trigger something that I don’t like. Or the same thing with technology, I will maybe put off maybe getting to know technology, and then I decide to start to embrace it and I move into it and there’s a part of it that I’ll enjoy, and then there is this piece of it that just overwhelms me because it’s like more complicated than I want to know. Or I know it’s going to take me a while to understand it. And somehow I feel that those things are connected with what I’ve been experiencing, in this just an incredible monster this black dog, big dog of overwhelm that I’ve created for many, many years. And I’ve been...
I liked how I was moving with it during the early part of this year, saying to myself, you know this, ”I understand it, I’ve done this before. I want to do it differently, so I’m going to move into different pieces of it. I’m going to let myself let these things go. Move into different pieces of it,” and its worked well, but now I struggle with one of the other push / pulls. And this is it, is being able to let go of stuff. I just have stuff in my house. Whether its...
I have a small house, a small capacity for storage and furnishings. And yet I really like a lot of different things. Plus I have left over things from closing two relatives houses. My parents house and an aunts house ten years ago. And many things are so easy to let go of, and then there are those few that I cannot, not that I really want to incorporate them in my life sometimes. Those are easy to keep, it’s the others that I don’t know what emotional baggage exists with them. Maybe it’s I can’t just give it away to a thrift store, there is money involved here, or gosh I just can’t, I may just want this someday, you know, it had meaning for me at some point. It doesn’t anymore. And there is something that pulls about that, I can’t seem to let go. And all of those things help generate my aspect of overwhelm. So I’m understanding it better, but can you help me be a little more practical in my days of getting...
I want to get control of it. Where am I? What am I doing with this?
ELIAS: First of all let’s define what do you want? Do you want to unclutter?
PAM: Yes.
ELIAS: Or do you feel that you are cluttered?
PAM: I want to unclutter. What I have I want to be in order. And I want to allow myself...
I want to find more things to let go of. Especially in relation to information. I mean getting ready for the session with you, I haven’t had one in almost three years, and it was like, ”you know I’ve got all these notes and I’ve got all these sessions,” so I’ve not looked at the cabinet for a while and finally I opened it the last two weeks. And you know I could just make this an easy thing of coming and seeing you, just letting it be subterraneous, but no, no, no, I have to go through my notes, and I have to make sure that I’m covering the things I want to cover. That’s just a good example of how I am with information.
Expenses, just recording my expenses. Yes there are some that are really important for taxes and for business purposes. And then there is so many other things. ”Oh, just keep track of how many things we’ve bought for the kiddies. Oh, let’s just keep track of...” I never go back and look at them, and yet somehow it is important to me to record it. So I have a conflict over, I don’t maybe know why it’s important for me to record it, therefore I can’t let go of it. But do I ever go back and look at it? No. So why am I...
ELIAS: What would your assessment be if you asked the question ”Why is it important?” What would you express? Or rather, what do you perceive is a consequence if you do not?
PAM: Well, the consequence if I do not is not having information at hand that I may be looking for. But what I think I do it for, sometimes it is just enjoyable to look and compare. Like, ”Okay, this is what I did in this year. Here’s a list of this and this in this year, and a list in this year. And look how different they are. This year I really focused on that, and this year I didn’t focus on that particular aspect at all, and so there is very little there. I just...
I don’t know, I don’t know. I don’t know, there is so many elements of information that interests me, that I have really done a good job of overwhelming myself with it. And now I’m at the place where I want to unclutter and decide what is really important, and be able to let go of things. It doesn’t matter that I have this information. I don’t know why. I don’t know anybody else that this is important to, and they seem to be fine. Their lives go on fine without it, so I’m not sure what it is.
ELIAS: Which that is another comparison.
PAM: Yes.
ELIAS: What would occur if you did not compare with yourself? Can you be satisfied with yourself, and can you acknowledge your accomplishments with yourself without comparing to what was?
PAM: That’s a really good point, because I know that if I don’t...
I think, ”Okay I’ve made all these lists and I never go back and look at them, ” it doesn’t bother me that I haven’t looked at them. But then that puts me in this place of ”Why do you do this?” ”Why can’t you let this go? And free up your time, if you’re not going to do this. Then you won’t feel this...” Cause I feel this need to do it and get it all done. Nobody looks at it, nobody would ever look at it but me.
ELIAS: Now, in relation to what we were discussing yesterday. Allow yourself briefly, to incorporate a moment, and to attempt to access the earliest memory of either not having enough regardless of what it is, or the importance of being disciplined.
PAM: Both of those are really...
When you talked about the unfiltered portion of a young ones life yesterday, I was thinking about how I feel like the major thing that happened for me was that I would just be, totally just be myself. Whatever that was at the moment. If it was pirouetting around the room or expressing something we are playing, or whatever. And my parent, which will severely react to me and say it is wrong, or stop it, or what was I thinking of? And so I would feel just like I didn’t think I was doing anything wrong. So then it’s made me start to question probably everything because I think I was just being a good little girl, by being a natural little girl, but it wasn’t what my parent wanted. So...
ELIAS: That in itself...
Now, stop momentarily. That is an excellent example, for in that, that is an example of what would trigger that threat to genuine self. Not to attachments yet. But that threat to genuine self, and would also generate a suggestion that you are not incorporating time and activity efficiently. Therefore that would also include the discipline aspect. In that, it also suggests that you should be paying attention to what you are doing.
Now, that in itself can very much develop habits and patterns in which you begin paying attention differently. And as you grow that increases and it permeates in many different directions, which would influence the paying attention to what you are doing and being effective within your time. And would influence you comparing yourself with the year previous. ”Am I increasing my productivity? Am I increasing what I am doing? Am I more efficient? Am I learning from those experiences that I generated in the previous year?” Therefore influencing you to to continuously to be comparing yourself to what was, to be more. Or to be more efficient and to be paying attention efficiently.
These types of experiences and associations that are generated as small ones are very influencing. They are not memories that you think of as repressed. They are memories that you may not objectively recall or perhaps you do. But even if you do, they are memories that in a manner of speaking in your terms, are very close to the surface. They remain in that position throughout your life.
PAM: They feel hardwired.
ELIAS: Precisely. That is the difference of those memories. They have such an attachment. You are correct in your terms you could express that they are hardwired into you. For you have taken that experience and you have built a lifetime around it.
PAM: (Laughing.) Okay
ELIAS: And that experience influences your choices in how and what you do throughout your lifetime in every situation. It matters not how small or how significant it is. And as we were discussing yesterday, in those types of situations, they can turn into situations that are uncomfortable and overwhelming. In this, there may be some aspect that you like, but there is more that is influencing in manners that are uncomfortable, and that continue to influence you in your behavior and your choices in manners that you do not like, and that you become more and more overwhelmed with. Why can you not let go or remove objects from your home that you accumulated from other individuals? For they are essentially the same as a photograph.
Photographs are freezing moments with the association that if you freeze a moment you can hold it with you, and that that will be comforting to you.
PAM: But I don’t have attachments to photographs.
ELIAS: But the objects are the same. I am using photographs as an example, for they display a frozen moment. But you are generating that same action with objects. They represent a frozen moment, that if you hold that object, you will hold that moment. You will carry that moment and it will be comforting to you. But it is not, for you cannot freeze the moment, and it is not comforting. For whatever association that moment held, in the moment, that changes as you change. Your associations change. The manner in which you view that changes. It may spark an objective recall of an experience, but you are not generating that now.
PAM: So the few times that I allowed myself to, to...
Cause I do take stuff to the thrift store all the time, and it’s funny how many things... It will be one of these items that I hang on and hang one, and finally okay I’m done with it. I can’t stand this feeling of nagging, I don’t really like this anymore, so it’s gone. And sure enough three months later or six months later, I’m looking for that thing. And I really, really want it then. And I ”see, you gave it away” and now I have a reason for it.
ELIAS: What is your real reason for it?
PAM: All of a sudden it’s like, it was an element of, let’s say, clothing. It was mine, not somebody else’s. And I just saw it as shabby, I didn’t want it, now all of a sudden it could be great work clothes, it could be great shabby work clothes.
ELIAS: And you can generate other shabby work clothes.
PAM: Why can’t I let that go?
ELIAS: Those are not the only shabby work clothes that you can incorporate. It is not that tremendously important. You are placing that tremendous importance upon that object in the same manner that expressing yourself was important and it was stopped. Expressing yourself and allowing yourself to be genuinely you was important, and it was stifled. And if you let go of anything you possess, there is the association.
PAM: Okay, wow.
ELIAS: You could not have this. You have translated your expression into objects, and therefore they now are the symbol of that. And it is important that you hold it, and that you do not give it away to any other source. For the objects regardless of what they are, even a shabby article of clothing. They are your possessions, they belong to you, and if you give them away that is your symbol of taking away.
PAM: If I give it away it is my symbol of taking it away?
ELIAS: It is your symbol of what you perceived was being taken.
PAM: So that’s why I’m afraid to give away.
ELIAS: Correct.
PAM: Okay.
ELIAS: What is important is to begin to practice disassociating with the objects. The objects are not you. What you possess...
PAM: What about the information?
ELIAS: Even information is in a manner of speaking, figuratively, an object that you possess. What you possess is not you. Objects are not you, information is not you.
PAM: This relates to that challenge I always had of not seeing myself as consciousness, isn’t it? Seeing it objectified. That consciousness is out there and I totally respect it and get it, but it isn’t me. Yeah. So if I disassociate by learning to break this...
ELIAS: By reminding yourself and practicing. And in this, rather than generating the struggle with yourself, with what you are so fed up with, and therefore this object you get rid of, that you can’t stand it any longer. Rather than struggling and conflicting with yourself, perhaps designate in some area close to your exit door of your home, some receptacle, a bag, a box, it matters not. And each day allow yourself to express objectively to yourself, ”These objects are not me.” And choose one object to place in that box or that bag.
Do not remove the bag immediately, but this object is not me. It triggers a memory, I incorporate an association with this object, but it is not me. And the memory does not leave, the object leaves. Place the object in the bag or the box, and leave it. Do not engage it anymore.
In that, when you fill the box or the bag, place that in your vehicle. It is not necessary to immediately transfer that to a donation area, but place it in your vehicle so that it is moving in that process. Each time you place another box or bag in your vehicle, it will motivate you more to be transporting those items to a donation area. But, any object that moves to that box or that bag, and once it is moved to your vehicle, disassociate. Incorporate no attachments to this any longer. It is not part of you. It is not who you are. And in addition to that, it is covering who you are.
PAM: You mean covering up?
ELIAS: The more objects you incorporate, the more you are actually generating a physical display of covering yourself. Therefore, each object that you remove, is removing an excess layer of covering, to allow you to expose your genuine you that is so desperately struggling for freedom.
PAM: That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome my dear friend. You will accomplish.
PAM: Thank you. I love you so much. Thank you for sharing.
I have a little bit of anxiety about the transcript, its being available.
ELIAS: Once again, this is another avenue of accumulating. You do it with objects, you do it with information. Information is available and there, it is present regardless.
PAM: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I express tremendous encouragement to you, as always, and great lovingness. Remember also, I am always present with you, encouraging and supportive. And I shall be involved with your hands each time you place an object in your bag.
PAM: Thank you.
ELIAS: Ha, ha, ha. To my dear friend, in tremendous appreciation, au revoir.
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