Mathematics and Duplicity
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“Mathematics and Duplicity”
Saturday, February 6, 1999 © 1999
(Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Rodney (Zacharie).
Elias arrives at 10:23 AM. (Arrival time is 15 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning! (Smiling)
RODNEY: Good morning, Elias! How are you?
ELIAS: As always.
RODNEY: Fine! I’ve been studying the sessions at some length
recently, and in the area of duplicity, I came to the awareness that this
belief system is so powerful that it’s woven in and out of almost every
thought I think, (Elias grins and nods) although there are small places
where I feel that maybe the judgment does not have so strong a grip.
I’d like to ask you a question about this.
ELIAS: You may.
RODNEY: The dictionary definition of duplicity implies that it
is intentional deceit. I’m thinking in terms of my mathematics.
I’ve been raised on the right way and the wrong way ad infinitum, and it’s
so very much a part of my life, and I wrote down a little example.
In mathematics, we engage in actions which take us from one place in
a set of knowledge to another place or another set of knowledge, in general
terms. An example would be, if I note the two sides of a right angle,
then the action would be that if I took the square root of the sum of the
two squares, I would wind up with the length of the hypotenuse. The
taking of the square root is the action.
Now, it appears to me that this action works because everyone who engages
in these calculations has already agreed that this is the way that they
choose to perceive reality, and there’s a great deal of consistency in
this. I can use the terminology “this is the correct action” or “this
is the action that works” or “this is the action which we’ve all agreed
to” on the one hand. On the other hand, I could use words like “it’s
the right way or the wrong way,” and I realize that when I do that, in
my own use of the words, that those two words — right and wrong — almost
necessarily have a judgment with them, or some kind of an emotional component.
Whereas if I say that taking the square root of the sum of the two squares
is an action that works, or is an action that is consistent with what we’ve
agreed is gonna give us this number “C”, that does not have a judgment
with it. It’s simply a statement of fact. (Elias grins)
Am I making sense to you? Is it the judgment part of the right/wrong
which you’re referring to when you call rightness and wrongness duplicity?
I’m assuming that you would NOT say that the action that works would be
duplicity. I guess that’s my question.
ELIAS: Very well. Let me address to this situation that
you have presented, for within mathematical terms, you assume that there
is a method that is outside of the duplicitous expression. Now; let
me address to your expression in this example.
You express to me that you hold an awareness that if you are viewing
this equation and the execution of this equation in terms of right and
wrong, you are expressing duplicity, but if you are expressing that this
is merely fact, you are not expressing duplicity.
Now; you also have interjected partially into this statement that if
you are looking at this method and merely considering that it is an action,
that this would not be an expression of duplicity.
Now; I express to you that you are correct in the expression of right/wrong,
and that this is an expression of duplicity.
I also shall express to you that the statement of the method in which
you arrive at your conclusion as an expression of fact is also an expression
of duplicity, but the expression that the method is merely an action is
not an expression of duplicity.
You also have stated that you have investigated this particular term
of duplicity, and you have sought out a definition which appears to you
to imply intentional deceit, in your words.
RODNEY: Well....
ELIAS: This — let me express to you — is correct, and in this,
I have chosen this term intentionally and have not incorporated the word
of duality, for within the formation of the belief system, there is an
element of intentional deceit, in a manner of speaking.
Therefore, you have, throughout your ages, created a belief system holding
great power in energy which IS affecting of ALL other aspects of ALL other
belief systems.
This particular belief system of duplicity enters in and couples itself
with all other aspects of belief systems, and you are also correct in your
expression of noticing that almost all of your thoughts and actions and
emotions are coupled with this belief system of duplicity. It matters
not in your estimation how very small a thought or an action may be, or
how inconsequential, or in your estimation how insignificant....
RODNEY: I overwhelmed myself last week when I realized how pervasive
this is!
ELIAS: Quite! This be what I have been expressing to you
all for much time framework, in my explanation to you that this particular
belief system holds tremendous energy and is ultimately the most affecting
belief system that you hold within this dimension, for there is no other
belief system that you hold that this particular belief system does not
affect.
RODNEY: Okay. I hear that loud and clear. I’m just
beginning to really, really see what you’re talking about, and because
of my background in mathematics ... I’m aware that mathematics, as you
have mentioned, is kind of an art form which pertains to this dimension
of reality. One thing about mathematics is that it’s designed in
a way that is incredibly — and I used this word — consistent, and it’s
consistent because mathematicians have created it in a way in which they
can all agree on certain formulas and what goes into them and what comes
out of them. I was trying to apply ... I was trying to connect the
terms right and wrong with the term inconsistent.
ELIAS: Correct. Let me address to this also, for this introduces
another aspect of duplicity, which....
RODNEY: Of what?
ELIAS: Of duplicity ... that may be more insidious and more difficult
for you to be identifying.
In this, you have created in this dimension a language which you term
to be mathematics, and you are correct that this particular language holds
an efficiency, for you do agree upon the terminology within that language,
and in this expression, you have agreed that this particular language may
cross other language barriers. You may use this particular language
of numbers in every culture and in every society and it shall be consistently
the same, crossing the boundaries of other languages that you hold, but....
RODNEY: If we agree on what the number 4 means, and if we agree
on what the definition of addition is, and then we agree that when we add
4 to 4 we’ll get the number 8 ... this is all agreement. What I’m
trying to compare is that if a child says to me, “I added 4 and 4 and I
got the number 7,” then how do I describe to the child that this is not
in agreement with the language that we’ve created here? Do I use
the terminology that I just used? If I use the terminology “that’s
the wrong answer,” I am injecting into this an emotional or judgmental
component.
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; let me continue in this explanation concerning this language of
mathematics, for you have — within your belief systems and coupling with
your duplicity — deceived yourselves into the thought process that your
language of mathematics is absolute. Therefore, you have created
an underlying judgment which enters into all of the expressions of your
mathematics, for you have created a situation in which you have disallowed
any leeway for other expression. You have created a language of absolutes
in right and wrong.
If you are expressing 4 and 4, you shall receive your solution of 8,
and any other expression shall be deemed incorrect or wrong, and the one
expression of 8 shall be correct and right, and this is expressed that
these numbers are fact.
You view the word fact as an absolute. You view the word fact
as a statement of correctness and accuracy. I have expressed previously
to you that this is not necessarily truth. This is PERCEPTION, and
facts are changeable. They are temporary. Facts are expressions
of what you perceive to be absolutes within the moment, but as you offer
yourselves more information, facts change. (very deliberately)
What may be fact to you within one moment — and that you perceive to
be an absolute — may be changed subsequently, and may not be fact any longer.
Even within your language of mathematics, you alter certain elements of
your mathematics within your physics as you gain more understanding and
more information, and in this expression, you change your facts.
I have expressed many times previously, THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES, but
you view this particular language of mathematics as an absolute, and it
has born itself out many times throughout your history to not be an absolute,
but you do not view this aspect of this particular language. You....
RODNEY: I recognize that in places it is not absolute, and it
is inherently inconsistent and incomprehensible, inherently! It goes
beyond our ability to comprehend ... but that’s only in certain instances!
(Laughing)
ELIAS: Ah, but I am expressing to you that your reality is created
by your perception. This IS your reality. Therefore, you may
be in agreement with mass expression, and your reality shall produce itself
as such. You may be in accordance with this language of mathematics,
and you shall be creating your reality in that manner.
RODNEY: I realize I’m doing that. I guess what I’m asking
you is, at this point anyway, I can’t conceive of creating it any other
way!
ELIAS: Quite, but this is the point!
This is what I am expressing to you, that you are so very steeped within
your belief systems that your perceptions in many areas have become fixed,
and in that creation of your perception, you have not allowed yourselves
to view any other manner of expressing reality.
This be the reason that you amaze yourselves and you express such intense
surprise when you are viewing elements within your reality that do not
fit and that seem to you to be impossibilities. These are actions
of quite surprise to you, for they are outside of your fixed perception.
(Firmly) What I am offering to you in information is the expression
that you may view that there is much more within your reality that lies
outside of your fixed perception, and that as you choose to be addressing
to this belief system of duplicity and choose to be moving outside of this
and accepting the belief system FOR WHAT IT IS, this shall allow you to
widen your perception, which is the element that creates your reality.
And in this, your reality, in what you create, shall expand, and you shall
allow yourselves to be creating much more fully and with much more of your
own creative abilities.
Presently, you move through your reality creating through your perception
as a creature wearing blinders. You do not incorporate your periphery,
which I have also expressed many times, to be opening to your periphery.
But you view elements of your reality as outside of belief systems; they
merely are; they are facts; they are not elements of belief systems.
I express to you, they ARE elements of your belief systems! There
are no absolutes!
RODNEY: Okay ... okay. And what you’re saying is, in trying
to ... it’s kind of interesting because in mathematics, we pride ourselves,
of course, on what we call logic, and instead of trying to figure this
out, if I hear you correctly, you are suggesting that if I accept that
mathematics is simply another belief system, I will be neutralizing the
power of what I believe to be absolute.
ELIAS: Correct. Let me express
to you that this expression of mathematics provides an excellent example
of elements of your reality and your perception that are NOT in balance,
for this is an expression, as you term, of logic, which is heavily weighing
in the area of intellect.
You have created — within this dimension — the manner of perception
which incorporates intellect AND intuition, and in this, as you are incorporating
both the intellect and the intuition, you shall move into the expression
of balance. But within certain expressions and creations of your
perception, you lean heavily into the expressions of intellect OR emotion,
and view them as independent of each other, and are not incorporating both.
Within the language of mathematics, you incorporate intellect, but you
do not infuse intuition into this expression, and therefore you are expressing
only one element. You are not incorporating the entire picture.
In like manner....
RODNEY: Could I stop you for a second?
ELIAS: You may.
RODNEY: I want to change my tape. I’ll only be a second.
(Brief pause) Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. Continuing.
In like manner, you may experience a responsiveness to a situation or
another individual, and this may be creating an emotional response, and
within that emotional response, you may be creating within your perception
no incorporation of intellect. You may allowing yourself merely to
be expressing through emotion. In this, you are allowing yourself
to be moving solely in the expression of intuition.
Now; I am very aware that you do not equate emotion with intuition,
but they are very closely related. Within the balance of emotion
or intuition and intellect, you may be connecting with impressions which
may express themselves in an objective manner of emotion, which shall move
them into a designated expression, but connecting with the impression initially
is the incorporation of balance.
Therefore, I have expressed to you previously that impressions and impulses
are not emotion OR intellect. They are neutral. They are expressed
or translated into thought processes or emotion, but just as we equate
the thought process with the intellect, there is also an equating of the
emotion with the intuition.
Either expression of what you term in this dimension to be pure emotion
OR pure intellect is an incorporation of a lack of balance and is not incorporating
your periphery. You are viewing in one selective area, and you are
not viewing the entirety of the picture.
The expression of mathematics, in like kind to the expression of pure
emotion, would be likened to your viewing of a painting, and viewing only
one half of the picture and not viewing the other half of the picture,
but covering the other half of the picture, that you may not incorporate
the entirety of the painting.
Now; as you remove the blockage of the other half of the picture and
you allow yourself to step back, in a manner of speaking, and view the
entirety of the picture, the picture shall alter. It shall not be
viewed the same, for you incorporate more information.
RODNEY: Okay. (Elias coughs slightly) Are you finished
with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: This has gone quite deeply into the issue. I
will, of necessity, ponder it when I see it in written form in front of
me. I seem to get a great deal ... I get a lot out of hearing you
speak, Elias, but when I see the written transcript in front of me, I seem
to get a wider or deeper impression of what you’re saying. Would
you comment on that?
ELIAS: This is quite common, for in the interaction that you engage
objectively with myself, you are also engaging subjectively, and in this
subjective incorporation of this energy exchange, you are allowing yourself
to be assimilating the information. As you receive the information
in objective form with your transcribing, you allow yourself to be also
incorporating the information in objective manner, but you assimilate this
objectively more easily, for you have already incorporated the information
subjectively.
RODNEY: Okay. Okay, a quick question on pleasure.
You have spoken of it before, about how engaging in the action of pleasure
thins the energy, so to speak, and allows us to be more accepting and less
judgmental, and it occurs to me that there are activities that I engage
in that I term naturally pleasurable, and what I think you’re talking about
... you’re talking about not only those actions, but I think what you’re
talking about is that if I open to what is pleasurable, say in my work,
that is also what you’re talking about, instead of viewing my work as being
a great drudgery or a great toil or difficult. In other words, when
I hear you talk about pleasure, it seems to me you’re also talking about
us purposely opening to what is pleasurable in all things. Is this
what I hear you saying?
ELIAS: Correct. You may be noticing pleasure in every area
of your focus if you are allowing yourself to be noticing and opening to
this, and I express to you, as you are aware, that this creates less thickness
within your focus.
This also provides you a very efficient opportunity to view aspects
of the belief system of duplicity, for you express duplicity quite often
in the areas of pleasure! You deem certain pleasures to be absolutely
good, and other pleasures to be absolutely bad.
RODNEY: (Laughing) Yes!
ELIAS: In this, you offer yourselves the opportunity to view that
all pleasure is merely an expression of less thickness in energy within
your dimension, and allows you to move more freely in your expressions.
But you need be addressing to the judgments that you place upon this
action of pleasure, and if you are not experiencing pleasure in your evaluation
of your creation, then I express to you the suggestion that you be altering
your direction or your expression.
This be the reason that I express to you to be incorporating FUN!
And if you are not incorporating fun, alter your creation!
RODNEY: (Laughing) Okay! I’m gonna do that!
ELIAS: Very well! I am quite encouraging of this action!
(Grinning)
RODNEY: I’d like to ask you about a couple of dreams.
ELIAS: Very well.
RODNEY: This last 12 or 14 months has been really special for
me, and about 14 months ago, I had the following dream. It’s a short
one, and I’ve worked it a little bit, and it goes like this:
There’s a garbage truck moving in front of me, the top load being picked
off the truck by some overhead crane of some kind. Then I’m walking
in the fields. There was a huge development project of real estate
somewhere. Then I saw water falling over the ground, and found earthworms.
Then I found some kind of fatty flesh sitting on top of the earth, on sand.
I took it all and fed it to the fish, wondering if I was doing the right
thing for the fish. That’s the end of the dream. My sense is
that it talks a great deal about my spiritual self, but I would dearly
love you to comment on it.
ELIAS: What you have presented yourself with in this imagery is
a type of overview of your own movement. This truck that you image
is the initial expression ... and mind you, this is expressed within imagery
that is incorporated in alignment with your belief systems. Therefore,
initially you view yourself as the truck. This is a large vehicle
which incorporates the substance that YOU term to be garbage.
In this, your identification of garbage is the elements that shall be
discarded, unnecessary, unwanted, and in this you view yourself to be quite
full of these elements. But you also image another aspect of machinery,
which is another aspect of yourself, which is unloading, so to speak, part
of this substance; this garbage or waste material, in your perception.
You image this as being “disloaded topically.”
Therefore, what you are imaging to yourself is that initially you have
been discarding surface aspects of your belief systems, allowing you to
lighten yourself in some respects, and allowing you more of a capacity
to be incorporating other aspects of information which may not necessarily
be deemed as garbage. (Chuckling)
You move from this expression to the expansiveness of your field, which
also allows you more of a lightness and openness in your feeling within
your experience of this dream imagery. This is the expression that
you are moving from the binding-ness into more of an expression of freedom
and openness, but you also continue to be incorporating the belief systems
within your focus, but quite differently. Now, you examine more closely.
You are not necessarily generally placing the judgment of garbage upon
the belief systems, but recognizing that they may be slightly difficult
to handle — as you image this within your worms — and that they also may
be quite slippery, but that you are examining them and viewing them differently
than you had been previously. As you are examining these, you are
also feeding them to these creatures that you image as fish. In this
action, you are recognizing that in some of your expressions, you are —
in a manner of speaking — feeding aspects of your belief systems to other
individuals, and in this, you are questioning whether this may be good
or efficient in expression with other individuals.
Now; view that this dream imagery holds much information in this overview
of your movement and is also quite encouraging to you, as you have allowed
yourself the expression of viewing your own movement and acknowledging
yourself in the area that you continue to be examining and addressing to
different aspects of belief systems, and also recognizing your influence
and your affectingness in the terms of your interactions. Therefore,
this particular dream imagery has allowed you a confirmation and a validation
of your movement into the expression of more openness, and that you are
allowing yourself a wider awareness within your perception.
RODNEY: Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
RODNEY: I had a dream a couple of weeks ago. It’s a very
long dream, too long to describe in detail, but it’s a dream in which a
couple of features were very prominent. Actually, there were two
dreams, one after the other. In both of them, I am flying over water.
In the first dream, I actually lowered myself into the water, and amazed
myself by being able to propel myself through the water simply by feeling
the energy around my body. In the second dream, at the end of the
dream, I found myself walking along the shore of a large body of water,
and the shoreline began to tilt and quickly became a cliff, and I was propelled
off the face of this cliff, hovering over the water. The water then
began to take on the form of huge waves. These waves were bigger
than real. They were mountains of water, and they were flowing in
different directions and crashing upon each other.
The dream ended with this water flowing into a huge ravine in the earth,
over the earth, forming a river of water, and in this ravine were very
large pieces of equipment, earth-moving equipment — cranes, conveyer belts
— and the water buried these machines as it was flowing over the earth
in this ravine.
Those were the very, very powerful elements of this dream. There
were others which I feel would be too lengthy to go into at the moment,
but I was wondering if you would comment on my associations of one, flying
and propelling myself through water simply by feeling the energy around
my body, and two, these mountains of waves crashing into this ravine and
burying all of this equipment. If you could comment on that, I’d
greatly appreciate it.
ELIAS: Both of these expressions of water are your imagery that
you provide to yourself as an explanation of essence. The water is
your symbology to yourself denoting essence.
In this, you allow yourself to be experiencing freedom and much mobility
within this particular focus, and therefore you image yourself as flying.
But you also image yourself as merging with this water, and as you continue
to hold your sense of self, in a manner of speaking, or the identification
of the aspect of essence which is you, you also recognize the ease in which
you may move and propel yourself through the energy of essence, and that
this offers you much freedom. You are unbounded in your movement
within essence!
You also create the expression of this water as essence, in a recognition
of its powerfulness. The expression of the waves that crash into
each other is your imagery that you provide, in the expression of the energy
of essence and the immenseness of its powerfulness.
Energy expressed through essence may move in many different directions,
but each direction that it chooses to move into is equally as powerful
as any other direction. Therefore, each expression of this energy
is imaged as a wave, and each wave appears to be immense, and may be moving
in quite different directions from other waves within this same body of
water.
Now; you also image that this water may focus itself into a directed
expression, creating a river, which is the image of the water moving itself
into specific directions. This offers you the information that essence
may channel itself in any particular direction and be moving quite efficiently
in the expression of that direction. This is the creation of different
focuses of essence.
As it moves into what you term to be this ravine, it is consuming of
all of these expressions of machinery.
Now; this is the expression in your imagery that in a manner of speaking,
in your perception, all of these aspects of machinery are all of the aspects
of focuses in which essence may direct its attention, but they are all
incorporated — or in your imagery, consumed — by the encompassing water,
or essence.
Therefore, they are all contained within it, although the expressions
of the focuses are imaged as machinery and a very different quality than
the water, for you view the water to be free-flowing and of no particular
contained form, whereas you view the focuses as being solid, and expressed,
particular, individual forms. But even within these particular forms,
they are incorporated within the water.
RODNEY: I gotta add something to this. In this dream, as
this water was flowing through this ravine, I viewed myself. I became
a viewer, viewing myself flying over the water as the water was burying
these machines, and at one point I thought I was going to crash into one
of them and kill myself, and then I realized that I was flying over the
top of this, so that was not something to concern myself with. But
afterwards, there was a parade, and there were these carts, and we were
riding upon these big wagons, and I joined this person who was flying,
who had been myself, and we were enjoying ourselves greatly.
ELIAS: This is your expression to yourself in an element of safety,
recognizing that although temporarily you express a fearfulness at the
overwhelmingness of this water and its power, and that you may collide
with it and that this action in your belief systems may be creating of
a destructive quality which you designate as death, but you retrieve yourself
and recognize that you are safe. In this, you offer yourself the
imagery that although essence holds great power, you also hold safety within
it, and therefore you incorporate a joyousness in a celebration subsequent
to this realization.
RODNEY: Right. Well, I thank you so very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
RODNEY: We’re just a little over our time. I do want to
ask you one quick question.
ELIAS: You may.
RODNEY: Have you and I ... or have I ever had the pleasure of
knowing you at some other time and place upon this earth?
ELIAS: Yes. You have shared in physical focuses with this
essence, and you have also shared other interactions within other dimensions,
and I may express to you that you share interaction within essence in mergence
with this essence at times.
Therefore, you may express to yourself that you have incorporated, and
continue to do so, interaction non-physically with this essence.
RODNEY: I carry a blue stone with me, and when I pull it out of
my pocket and I see it, it reminds me of you.
ELIAS: And I also, in recognition of this, project energy to you
through this stone.
RODNEY: Can you say where and when we shared a focus together?
ELIAS: We have shared several within this particular dimension.
I shall express to you that you have shared one focus with this essence
in the physical location of Ireland, you have shared three focuses with
this essence in the physical location of Scotland, and you have shared
three focuses with this essence in the physical location of France.
RODNEY: Wow. Will we ever do it again?
ELIAS: I have chosen to be not physically engaging physical dimensions
and focusing my attention of essence in these areas. Therefore, in
your linear terms, we shall not be engaging within physical focuses and
interaction in that manner, but I express to you that you are quite interactive
with myself within essence.
I may also express to you the term that I offer to you within essence:
mon cher ami. (my dear friend)
RODNEY: What was that?
ELIAS: Mon cher ami.
RODNEY: I thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
RODNEY: I’ll have to look that up, but I thank you!
ELIAS: And look to your fragmentation, and this shall offer you
information also as to the expression I have offered you within this present
now.
RODNEY: Well, I can’t quite hear that. Will Vicki be able
to transcribe that easily?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: She will? Okay. Well, I think I’ll say good-bye
for now.
ELIAS: Very well. I express to you great affection, and
I anticipate our next meeting.
RODNEY: You certainly have mine.
ELIAS: I present to you acknowledging and encouraging energy,
and I offer to you a very loving au revoir.
RODNEY: Good-bye.
Elias departs at 11:30 AM.
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