Wednesday, June 2, 1999   © 1999 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Leslie (Margaret).
Elias arrives at 3:07 PM. (Arrival time is 15 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good afternoon!

LESLIE:  Hi! (Elias chuckles)  I’d say, “How are you today?” but everybody says that, don’t they?  We still do that! (Elias chuckles)  I just had a nice conversation with Mare!  So, are you ready?

ELIAS:  Quite!  And you may proceed.

LESLIE:  Thanks.  Okay, I got ... oh, I’ll ask you real quick.  A couple of times as I went to sleep, I asked your help to visit my focuses ‘cause I thought maybe it would work in that state better or easier or whatever, you know what I mean?  Unfortunately, I didn’t remember anything when I woke up.  So, did we go anywhere?

ELIAS:  You are inquiring to the accessing within your dream state of certain other focuses.

Now; I shall express to you that you have been creating this movement in the direction of accessing other focuses, and you have moved into the viewing and partial interaction with one particular focus in which there are some elements of that energy which is affecting of this focus presently.

In this, you are not objectively allowing yourself the remembrance of this interaction within your waking state, but you are accomplishing and you are allowing yourself an objective responsiveness.  In this, I have also been compliant with you in responding to your request ...

LESLIE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  ... for helpfulness.

Now; in this, you have moved into your waking state from this interaction within your sleep state, and you experience a limited time framework, in moving out of your sleep state into your waking state, in which you are experiencing agitation.

LESLIE:  Oh!  Is that why I’m waking up so angry?

ELIAS:  Yes.

LESLIE:  Oh!  In the last few weeks, I wake up, and I’ve never experienced this, but I’m just so angry!  I could just kill!

ELIAS:  The reason you are experiencing this type of responsiveness is that in this interaction with this other focus, you are noticing certain parallels.

I express to you, as I have expressed to other individuals recently, it may be quite easier for you to be viewing another individual — even within another focus of your own essence — and recognizing the patterns and creations and behaviors of that individual and identifying more of the choices that are available to the individual than it shall be for you to look to self and identify the very same situations and expanse of choices which are available to you.

Therefore, in this viewing of another focus of your essence, what you are connecting to is a recognition that that focus is creating certain elements — certain actions and behaviors — within its focus which are quite similar to your energy and how you create within your focus, but your attention is turned to the other individual.

Therefore, you are not necessarily associating within the experience the commonality that you share with that focus.  You are merely experiencing frustration, that you recognize certain choices which are not being accessed or implemented which may be in actuality helpful to the individual, but that individual is not choosing those particular behaviors or actions.  This creates an element of frustration within yourself, for underlyingly, you are also recognizing that you are creating your reality quite similarly.

Now; in this, as you move from sleep state into your waking state — in what you in physical form identify as a type of transitional state — you are experiencing the objective response and becoming agitated.  You are agitated with the other focus and with yourself also, in the recognition of these similarities.

There is also an element of frustration which triggers anger, for as you may be frustrated in intensity within a particular focus, many individuals easily move into the expression of anger in conjunction with this type of frustration.  Therefore, this be the reason that you are experiencing this type of action as you move out of your dream state and into your waking state many times recently.

In this, I shall also express to you that it is merely a recognition that you are holding to your own energy quite tightly ... as we have discussed previously, have we not? (Grinning)

LESLIE:  Oh, yes! (Elias laughs)  Well, how do you let go?  I feel the tightness, so I know I’m doing it, but how do you let go of it?

ELIAS:  This, I express to you, within physical focus, you identify as a process.  You allow yourself to be accomplishing this in increments, and in these increments, little by little, you allow yourself to be noticing as you are holding within each moment, and in that moment, relax and allow yourself to not be holding.

Ask yourself, within those moments that you feel that tightness and you feel yourself holding to your energy, what do you hold in such great importance that you need be holding to your energy so very tightly?  This may be a response to your own energy and it may be a response to other individuals’ energy, but either situation, you may ask yourself within:  What behavior, what thought, what feeling, what action holds such great importance and such value to you within that moment that you shall not allow yourself to relax or that you need be expressing justification of yourself or protection of yourself?  For what shall be hurtful to you outside of you?

LESLIE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are....

LESLIE:  You’ve been very helpful.  Yesterday morning, I was going to the doctor.  I left the house headed in the direction that I thought was the doctor.  All of a sudden, it dawned on me, I didn’t have any idea where the doctor was!  I made a U-turn, went a few more blocks, made another U-turn and went back the other way, and for not a very long time — it seemed too long at the time, of course — I knew how to get home, but I had no idea where the doctor was.  What was that all about?

ELIAS:  This is an action of transition.  I express to you, yes, you hold an awareness, within that experience and within that moment, in how to be returning to what you view to be home or familiar, but you hold difficulty in moving to your destination.

In this, you are creating objective imagery outwardly and allowing yourself this type of physical experience in conjunction with your movement that you are engaging subjectively in certain aspects of this action of transition.  You are moving into some unfamiliar areas within consciousness, as it relates to physical focus.  It is not unfamiliar to you within essence, but within physical focus, certain aspects of reality and consciousness have become unfamiliar to you within your forgetting of the remembrance.  Therefore, in this, you move into awarenesses of the action of simultaneous time and begin a movement into different actions which are occurring simultaneously within conscious[ness] [and] in yourself, so to speak, and this is objectively created in mirror action in a feeling of disorientation [and] partially a feeling of fearfulness and discomfort, for it is unfamiliar.  (That entire sentence is unfamiliar!)

You are not entirely understanding, for you are not entirely objectively processing the information that you are experiencing, and in this element of disorientation, you allow yourself partially a stabilization by allowing yourself the remembrance of how to be returning, but not how to be reaching your destination.

LESLIE:  I’m not sure I totally understand.  Now, at that period of time when I didn’t know how to get anywhere except home, are you saying it was like a projection that I was trying to do in my car?

ELIAS:  No.  I am expressing to you that you are experiencing an element of the action of transition, and in this, you are creating inwardly and outwardly simultaneously, in like fashion to each other.  Therefore, your objective creation is the disorientation and the lack of remembrance, which is displayed to you in physical terms, and this creates an element of fearfulness, for you do not understand.

In this, you may be remembering how to be returning home, but you are not quite remembering how to be moving on!

LESLIE:  Ah!  Okay, that makes sense.  Now, just now when we were talking — and yesterday — I got this overwhelming ... almost like a blackout, like I started to pass out.  It happened yesterday and it happened just now when I was talking to you, where I got like dizzy and started to black out.  Now, is all of this part of what’s going on right now with me with the transition?

ELIAS:  Correct.  This is what you may term to be an energy surge.

LESLIE:  Oh, okay.  That blackout thing was an energy surge?

ELIAS:  Correct.

LESLIE:  Oh, okay.  Well, it’s nice to know these things! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)  What’s my orientation?

ELIAS:  You hold the orientation of common within this particular focus.

LESLIE:  Okay.  Are any of my creations at the moment in conflict with my intent? (8-second pause, during which Elias closes his eyes, and then starts chuckling)  Oh, I know the answer, don’t I?

ELIAS:  Now; I express to you, I shall inquire this same question of you, and you may be responding to me, and I shall validate to you your accuracy.

LESLIE:  Okay. (Brief pause)  Oh, so you want me to tell you which one is in conflict? (Elias laughs)  Is that what you mean?

ELIAS:  Yes.

LESLIE:  Oh, okay.  The park?

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  This would be one.

LESLIE:  Oh, I’ve got more than one?  Shoot!  No wonder I’m having trouble!  Let’s see, what else?  The ceramics?

ELIAS:  This would be another area.  And what have these in common?

LESLIE:  Frustration! (Laughing)  Gee!

ELIAS:  These hold a commonality of personal responsibility.

LESLIE:  Oh.  Too responsible, huh?

ELIAS:  You assume personal responsibility.  In this, you create a thought process and a direction that you may be creating of reality more efficiently and better than other individuals.

LESLIE:  Oh, shame on me!

ELIAS:  No....

LESLIE:  Thinking I’m better! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  HA HA!

LESLIE:  Oh, that’s awful, Elias!

ELIAS:  (Grinning)  I do not express to you that this is so very horrible!  It is merely a direction that you move into which is camouflaged by the belief that you are expressing helpfulness, but the underlying aspect of this expression is your own judgment of self and other individuals, that you may be creating of their reality more efficiently.

LESLIE:  I know I’m guilty of that one. (Elias chuckles)  I’m trying to work on it, though.  I really am!

ELIAS:  And I am....

LESLIE:  I really do mean to help, and I think it’s finally dawning on me that I’m not really helping, because I’m helping them from where I sit, not from where they sit.

ELIAS:  And I am quite acknowledging of you in this, for you ARE offering yourself a new understanding and realization in this area.

LESLIE:  You know, when I first started this ceramic thing, I had asked you if it was more probable or less probable, and you said it was more probable and that I would probably create my ... well, not probably.  I would create my own difficulties with it.

ELIAS:  Quite.

LESLIE:  And I’m telling you, I’m creating one heck of a mess!  Why am I doing this?

ELIAS:  This offers you the opportunity to view all of the areas in which you place judgments and expectations upon yourself and upon OUTCOMES.

LESLIE:  Yep, you’re right about that!  Lordy, lordy, lordy! (Elias chuckles)  Well, it makes sense.

ELIAS:  And I express to you, it matters not.

LESLIE:  You know what?  That’s really part of the key, I think.  It really has to matter not.  I don’t think it works when you try to push it into a hole, you know what I mean?  Take that square peg — I’m always trying to get that square peg in the round hole!

ELIAS:  Quite, and I am expressing to you that as you allow yourself to be viewing these obstacles and these different aspects of your creations, you also offer yourself the opportunity to be addressing to these situations, which IS beneficial to you, and once you are moving yourself into more of an acceptance in this area and not holding so very tightly to your expectations and your judgments and your ANTICIPATION of outcomes, you shall be efficiently creating in the manner that I have expressed to you.  You have not altered those probabilities.  Therefore....

LESLIE:  I haven’t?

ELIAS:  No!

LESLIE:  Oh.  Well, you know what?  I’ll tell you something.  I would have never stuck with it this long — and you know it as well as I do — if I didn’t hear your little words in my ear saying, “It is a probability and it can work.”  So I knew I was creating a big old mess, but I didn’t understand what I was doing to create this mess.

ELIAS:  Ah, but I express to you that this is not a mess, for it is....

LESLIE:  (Cracking up)  It depends on where you are — whether you are where you are or whether you are where I am! (Big grin from Elias)

ELIAS:  It is an opportunity. (Chuckling)

LESLIE:  Okay, I’m going to write that word down!  That’s a very good thing. (Elias chuckles)  Okay, I’ve got lots of work to do, don’t I?  That’s okay.  It’s kind of fun! (Elias chuckles)

Okay, I’ve got to ask you one thing.  You said that I did have those things in conflict with my intent.  Now, it’s my understanding that if you’re not going with the flow of your intent, that’s not good.

ELIAS:  It shall be creating conflict within your focus.

Now; you may be creating in opposition to your intent, in entrenching yourself in certain beliefs and certain behaviors and issues which become shrines within a particular focus.

This is not to say that you are not continuing to be creating your value fulfillment, for you are continuing to be creating in a manner that is beneficial to you and offers information to you, but you create a thickness and much more of a difficulty and conflict in creating certain elements of your focus in opposition to the natural flow of your intent.

LESLIE:  Okay.  So if I were to drop the expectations and all that and consider this an opportunity, that will make everything flow a lot more smoothly.

ELIAS:  Quite.

LESLIE:  Okay.  That I can work on.  That will be fun ... well, I don’t know what it will be! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

Very quickly, some of these are kind of basic questions ‘cause I kind of need to see if my building blocks are correct.  For instance, my little dog that disengaged, did she go back into ... my term would be the pool of consciousness? (Pause)

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, for the energy has been reconfigured.  It has not been remanifest into physical focus once again in this time period yet, but it has been reconfigured and is moving within consciousness nonphysically.

LESLIE:  Now, we’re an essence, and so we are who we are who we are.  Now that she’s returned to consciousness, is she still who I knew, or has she become part of a whole?

ELIAS:  In this, the creature does not hold essence.  It is a configuration of energy, which is consciousness, and projected and created into physical form.

Within that physical expression, dependent upon the type of expressed energy that it is configured into — such as a creature — it may hold an aspect of personality which offers it its own unique expression within physical reality, but that particular individuality is a choice of experience that it is within agreement to be creating within certain moments in physical focus, but as an element of consciousness, may not necessarily retain that particular expression of individuality and personality, for it is unnecessary and the energy is reconfigured.

Now; let me also express to you that as the energy reconfigures, it retains memory.  Therefore, although it may reconfigure into some other type of expression within consciousness, it continues to hold memory.  Therefore, if choosing to be reconfiguring the energy into a remanifestation of another creature, it may hold objective memory of certain experiences that have been created previously, in your terms, within physical focus.

LESLIE:  Oh, okay.  That helps clarify that.

Now, my current little creature is still barking.  Does this have to do with my driving force that we spoke of before?

ELIAS:  This is in responsiveness to your energy.

LESLIE:  That I’m holding to it?

ELIAS:  This little creature is quite responsive to you individually, and therefore is creating of certain behaviors, that it may be expressive with you much more so than with any other individual or situation.  In this, the little creature that you interact with presently holds great excitement, in a manner of speaking, in its interaction with you, and also is forcefully requesting your attention in its direction, and therefore it attains your attention in the most efficient manner.  You shall pay attention if it is creating much noise! (Grinning)

LESLIE:  I know, and he’s so cute! (Elias chuckles)  He’s just darling, but he sure does bark!  And you’re right, he does want my attention.  But he’s wonderful, so I’ll live with it. (Elias laughs)

What is the belief system behind my driving force?

ELIAS:  This would be an aspect of beliefs in which you translate your worth within physical focus in relation to your productivity.

LESLIE:  Oh, that was to the point, and that’s very true!

How many bird cages are there?

ELIAS:  Ten.

LESLIE:  Ten?

ELIAS:  Correct.

LESLIE:  Can you tell me what they are?

ELIAS:  I have offered this information, and you may access this information through Michael.

LESLIE:  Okay, fine.  You gave an example of the shoes.

ELIAS:  Yes.

LESLIE:  Are you suggesting that we loosen our grip and widen our view of our beliefs?

ELIAS:  This may be one interpretation, which shall lead you to an acceptance.  I am speaking — in relation to these shoes — of your awareness.  In widening your awareness, you also create greater mobility and ability within your movement.  As you are narrowing your awareness, you are also restricting of your movement, just as within the expression of the shoes.

If you are placing upon your feet shoes that are tightly fitting, they shall be constricting to you and they shall hinder your movement and create painfulness, whereas if you are allowing yourself to be placing a different type of shoes upon your feet that are much wider and provide you with adequate room to be moving comfortably within, you shall not restrict yourself.  You shall allow yourself much more mobility and with much greater ease, and no painfulness!  (This is such a great analogy!)

LESLIE:  Okay, that helped.  Somehow I missed that little bit when I was listening to that.  Time is linear, correct?

ELIAS:  Within this dimension, yes.

LESLIE:  You talked about trauma and different outcomes.  Is the future, as we term it, being played out in several different directions as we speak?

ELIAS:  Yes.

LESLIE:  Okay.  So in other words, the religious Armageddon, is that one of those that’s being played out?

ELIAS:  Within one probability.

LESLIE:  Is the object of the shift to change the rules of the game?

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, yes, for it is to widen your awareness, allow you greater mobility within your creativity, and allow you a greater freedom of expression within all of your natural abilities.  In this, you are altering the entirety of your reality.  Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you ARE changing the rules.

LESLIE:  Do I have any focuses in the future, as we would term it?

ELIAS:  Yes.

LESLIE:  Have they tried to contact me?

ELIAS:  One, briefly.

LESLIE:  Okay.  Now, this is an example.  I tried to think of an example that we could all maybe relate to as far as expectations and acceptance, okay?  In a relationship — that’s something we all have in common — in a close relationship, if one of the people in the relationship should find another individual attractive and act upon the desire, what would it take for this action not to cause trauma?  How would acceptance or the lack of expectations play in this?

In other words, because we have certain expectations and rules or whatever you want to call them about relationships, that is not supposed to happen, or why would you be in the relationship?  So in order for that not to cause trauma, how would we have to view this?

ELIAS:  You have offered yourself the keys in your very questioning, for the key to the viewing of these types of situations is to be viewing the expectations, the conditions, and the lack of acceptance, which creates judgments.  These are all expressed elements of aspects of your belief systems.  In this, as you allow them to be affecting, you are also creating of much conflict in these types of situations, and much thickness.

In this, let me express to you, you may view this situation and recognize that your officially accepted responses in justification are direct responses as influenced by your belief systems in the area of judgment, and turning the individual’s attention away from self, and projecting to the behavior of another individual.

Now; I am quite understanding that individuals’ behaviors are affecting of you as you are engaged within intimate relationships.  All relationships are affecting of you, but let us view this one particular expression of relationship.  In this, you allow yourselves to be affected quite strongly by another individual’s behaviors, but let us also examine what you are allowing to be affected.

In these types of situations in which you view that the behavior or the expression of the other individual of which you engage a relationship with is hurtful to you and unacceptable to you, and you are placing great judgment upon their behavior, I express to you that many times — most of the time, within most of your expressions — what you are in actuality creating is the expression of your own lack of acceptance of some element of self which is being mirrored to you, and your perception, your feeling, your thought process is being reinforced in what you already assess within self.

The reason that you respond in the manner of justifying self and placing judgment upon the behavior of another individual as to an action of what you term to be unfaithfulness is directly a response that YOU hold within self.  You hold the view of unworthiness within self and interpret that another individual shall not turn their attention to you, for of course they shall turn their attention to another individual, for you are not worthy of their attention!

But this also creates your expressions of defensiveness, which is your protection device, and of justification, which is another protection device that you implement.  You express to yourself that you are right and you are good and you are expressing worthily, and another individual is expressing very badly!  But underlying these thoughts and these expressions is the agreement that you hold within you — that in actuality, within your perception, you are not worthy.  And therefore, the individual is justified within their action.

I express to you that ALL of these assessments are all elements of your beliefs, for in actuality, it matters not.  An individual may be choosing to be engaging relationship in intimate fashion with another individual, and may continue to be engaging that relationship, and may also engage relationship with another individual simultaneously.

Monogamy is another element of your belief systems which is suggested to you for the reason that you also, within another aspect of beliefs, hold to the belief that you hold a limited supply of energy.  You may only allot a certain amount of energy to be expressed in love and compassion and affection, for you hold a limited amount and other individuals hold a limited amount, and in this, they do not hold enough to be encompassing of more than one individual within one time framework.  This creates your reinforcement of monogamy.

You pair together.  You view that if you are pairing together life-long, in your terms, that this is a very good and worthy expression.  You even look to your creatures, and hold within greater regard those creatures which you view to pair singularly throughout one focus.  This is “better” than the expressions of other creatures, although the expressions of other creatures are acceptable ... but they are merely creatures!

LESLIE:  That was very, very good!  Gosh, I’ve gotten so much great information!  I don’t know why, but I really feel like I’ve taken a step forward.  I mean, yeah, I’m really tickled about this session!

I need to ask you just two more things.  One of them is, what’s with my foot?  What’s with my stupid foot?  And then, just any information that you feel would help me along in my quest to progress.

ELIAS:  Your foot is quite obvious, is it not?  This....

LESLIE:  (Laughing)  I don’t know why I keep injuring it!

ELIAS:  This is your expression to yourself, first of all, to be slowing your action.

LESLIE:  Oh, okay.  Then I got it right.

ELIAS:  I shall also express to you that you, if not listening to yourself, shall place obstacles before yourself to BE listening to yourself!

LESLIE:  Well, actually the foot did slow me down some ... a lot, sort of. (Elias chuckles)  But I run in high gear all the time!  I don’t know how to slow down!  I just always run in high gear!

ELIAS:  Quite, and it has not quite slowed you very well, has it? (Chuckling)

LESLIE:  No, it hasn’t, because as soon as it got better, I was back on it again!  To heck with it!

ELIAS:  Quite, and I express to you that you are creating merely imagery to be offering to yourself of what I have expressed to you previously — to slow and to not be pushing so very intensely.

LESLIE:  And boy, do I!  I push HARD.  But you know that, don’t you?

ELIAS:  Quite.

LESLIE:  You know what?  I think I feel like I’m running against the clock, and I only have ... well, part of it, like you said, is that my productivity has to do with my self-worth.

ELIAS:  Quite.

LESLIE:  You know what?  That was very, very good for me because I never quite thought of it like that, but when you said it, it really rang true.  So, I guess I could work on other things and slow down some, huh? (Elias chuckles)

Well, I sure got some information today.  It’s been a great session!  Thank you so much!

ELIAS:  You are very welcome, and I shall continue to be encouraging you to be noticing of what you are creating.

I am acknowledging of you in your noticing of your expressions within your own beliefs and your recognition that your helpfulness, within your issue of personal responsibility, may not always be objectively helpful.  THIS I am quite acknowledging of you, that you have allowed yourself to be recognizing of this aspect of your beliefs.

I shall be encouraging and lending energy to you in your continuation of your explorations, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting and continuing to be offering energy to you, and you may be viewing my energy also.

LESLIE:  I really do thank you.  I don’t know why, but for whatever reason, today I feel like I’ve just taken like a giant step forward.  The information you gave me was more than way helpful!  I just don’t know how to thank you.  I’ll just keep going forward!  Gotta get the ball up to the top of the hill! (Elias chuckles and Leslie laughs)

ELIAS:  Very well.  I offer to you this day great affection, and I bid you a very loving au revoir.

LESLIE:  Thank you very, very much.

Elias departs at 3:59 PM.

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