Saturday, November 27, 1999   © 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), and a new participant, Georgia (Jacob).
Elias arrives at 2:52 PM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good day! (Smiling)

GEORGIA:  Hello! (Elias chuckles)  Oh wow!  You DO have a voice change when you come on the phone!  This is wonderful! (Elias chuckles)  And I guess everything is alright with you still?

ELIAS:  As always!

GEORGIA:  Of course!  Oh wow, this is wonderful!

I have a very simple question to ask you first.  I have family and friends who want to know their essence names and family alignments and orientations, and I definitely want to know my orientation so I can know who I am!  I know that you gave my essence name as Jacob and my family as Ilda and my alignment as Vold.  Is that still the same?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

GEORGIA:  Alright.  What is my orientation?  I’ve been trying to figure it out, and I’m confused.

ELIAS:  Orientation in this focus, common.

GEORGIA:  Alright.  That’s why I wasn’t sure what I was, ‘cause common has all of it!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

GEORGIA:  (Laughing)  I was thinking that I probably was, but I wasn’t sure.  And my husband Malcolm, what is his essence name?

ELIAS:  Essence name, Rosa.

GEORGIA:  Rosa?

ELIAS:  R-O-S-A.

GEORGIA:  Oh, and his family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Zuli; alignment in this focus....

GEORGIA:  His family is Borledim?

ELIAS:  Zuli.

GEORGIA:  Could you spell it?

ELIAS:  Z-U-L-I.

GEORGIA:  Okay, and his alignment?

ELIAS:  Alignment in this focus, Vold.

GEORGIA:  Okay.  And his orientation is common also?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

GEORGIA:  Alright.  I knew that because of something you said before! (Elias chuckles)  And how about Melanie, my daughter?  What is her essence name?

ELIAS:  Essence name, Melynda; M-E-L-Y-N-D-A. (may-leen’da)

GEORGIA:  And her essence family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Borledim.

GEORGIA:  And her orientation?

ELIAS:  Orientation, common.

GEORGIA:  Yes.  And my daughter Heather, what is her essence name?

ELIAS:  Essence name, Rory; R-O-R-Y.

GEORGIA:  And her essence family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Milumet; alignment, Sumari.

GEORGIA:  Wow, how interesting!  And she’s also common?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

GEORGIA:  And her husband Doug, Douglas, what is his essence name?

ELIAS:  Essence name, Constence; C-O-N-S-T-E-N-C-E.

GEORGIA:  And his essence family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Sumari.

GEORGIA:  The same as Heather.

ELIAS:  Correct.

GEORGIA:  And for my daughter Melanie, her son Ethan, what is his essence name?  My grandson Ethan.

ELIAS:  Essence name, Chu-Di; C-H-U-hyphen-D-I. (chew-dee)

GEORGIA:  And his essence family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Vold.

GEORGIA:  And his orientation?

ELIAS:  Orientation, common.

GEORGIA:  Okay.  Then we have our friend Mikki, who I think met you the other night when I was talking about you, and you stepped in on her.  What is her essence name?

ELIAS:  Essence name, Nicholi; N-I-C-H-O-L-I.

GEORGIA:  And her essence family?

ELIAS:  Essence family, Ilda; alignment, Tumold.

GEORGIA:  And her orientation?

ELIAS:  Orientation, common.

GEORGIA:  Okay.  And I forgot to ask you, what is Douglas’s orientation?  Common also?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

GEORGIA:  Okay.  Oh, thank you so much!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome!

GEORGIA:  I know that was a lot of people, but they were all interested, or at least people that love them are interested.

When I was a child ... I want to talk about some memories of other lives or whatever.  When I was about five years old, I had moved to a new neighborhood, and I was playing with some boys and a girl, and the girl and her brother had to go home, and the boys that were left wanted to play war, and said I couldn’t play war with them because I was a girl, and girls were not brave like men; boys were.

So I went somewhere and found a man that I was, and went inside him to see if I had changed since I had been him.  I don’t know what I did, but I came back with the idea that we were just the same; that even though I was a little girl and he was a man, inside we were just the same at the core.  I don’t know what I did, but I can remember doing it.  I remember seeing this man as a scout in a war — I think it was the American-Indian War — standing by one of the Great Lakes in a little cusp of trees, and going inside his mind or whatever to see how different or how alike we were, and coming back with much more than I went in there looking for.  What did I do?

ELIAS:  This is merely your allowance of yourself to be tapping into the experience of another focus that you hold within essence, and therefore allowing yourself an objective knowing and realization of the reality of another element of yourself.

You have offered this experience to yourself quite naturally in response to information which was offered to you within that moment that you held a knowing of within yourself that was not in agreement with the information which was being offered to you.  Therefore, in assessing the situation, you allowed yourself to be turning to self and accessing information through yourself in tapping into this other focus that you hold in this particular dimension to be creating a comparison, that you may hold your own information.

GEORGIA:  That’s what I figured, but it was like, I was five years old, or I think I was like five years, and it didn’t even seem odd!  It was just normal!

ELIAS:  Quite, and I shall express to you that small ones allow themselves these abilities quite easily, for they have not entirely created the veils of separation that they develop in what you term to be later years.

GEORGIA:  Yes, I know it took a while for mine to develop, (Elias chuckles) and then I think it just shut down really fast.

Like when I was a child, I was what we call sexually abused by my father, but it was something that I know I chose to do, so it wasn’t really abuse, and I know that at all kinds of levels, okay?  But one day when I was young — I think it was before I was a teenager — I was sitting at supper, and my father came home, and he took a hat off his head and he was bald, and I had a flash that upset me so much that I became hysterical, a memory of a life — and I didn’t remember all of this until I had the courage to go back and look — of a life in a harem, where I was a very bitter, older woman, a very unhappy woman who abused the eunuchs there, and who also abused the women who were part of the harem, and we were all prisoners together and creating a miserable life for each other.

It was really a horrible memory for me, and I couldn’t be in the same room with my dad while he wasn’t wearing the hat.  If he had the hat off, I became very ill, hysterical, and wanted to leave.  I couldn’t even be with him, and when I finally realized what I was remembering, my father had been a eunuch, and had had a very unhappy life then, and for some reason, we chose to come back and be here together in a family relationship.

(Emotionally)  And this happened, and it was a choice we made, and I don’t understand it except that maybe it was a way that we could not hurt each other, and yet ... or hurt each other, whatever, in safety.  I don’t know how to put it.  It was very traumatic, but it helped explain what’s happening now, or what happened as a child. (Crying)  Am I right in this analysis?

ELIAS:  Let me express to you that you present yourself with certain actions in agreements at times quite purposefully.

Now; in this situation, you have chosen to be manifest in this time framework within the movement of this shift in consciousness, and as you hold the knowing in your manifestation that you ARE participating in this shift in consciousness, you also chose to be manifesting and creating certain choices in probabilities that would allow you the opportunity to view certain actions, certain belief systems, certain behaviors that are created within this physical reality that are held very strongly and very tightly by individuals, and great judgments are placed upon within the strength of the belief systems.

And in the recognition of the action of this shift in consciousness and what is being created in the movement into genuine acceptance of self, a genuine autonomy of self, and the acceptance of beliefs, there is a presentment within yourself to be addressing to and moving through certain beliefs which have been held quite strongly previously.

You within this particular focus have allowed yourself to be manifest knowing the action of this shift, and therefore dropping some of the veils of separation and continuing to allow them to be dropped throughout the entirety of your focus.

You have stated to myself, within this particular time framework in this session, that within a point of time framework in this focus, you hold the knowledge that you discontinued your openness and your awareness that you allowed yourself as a small child.

In part, this is correct.  In part, this is incorrect, for in part, you have allowed yourself to continue some areas of that openness of your knowing throughout your focus, and have not created some of the veils of separation that may have been created in a different focus.

But knowing at the onset of this particular manifestation that you are participating in this shift in consciousness, and knowing the objective, so to speak, of this shift in consciousness, you also have allowed yourself a continuation of openness that facilitates your understanding in certain areas to be addressing to certain belief systems, that you may move through certain issues in this focus, which shall allow you movement into an expression of acceptance of self and of belief systems.

One of these areas of beliefs addresses to the subject of karma, and the belief that as you create certain actions and behaviors in one focus, that you shall also participate in similar actions and behaviors in the reverse within another focus.

This is a belief.  This is NOT an absolute.  This is NOT a truth.

GEORGIA:  I’m beginning to realize that.

ELIAS:  And in this focus, you have allowed yourself the recognition of similar actions that have been created in another focus, which enables you to be viewing self and choices and participation in actions with other individuals merely as experiences; not as the judgment of right and wrong and good and bad and not in the direction of retribution, or that you are karmically fulfilling certain movements within a reincarnational cycle.

The reason and that you and any other individual may access so very easily any other focus that you hold within essence in this dimension is that they are all being accomplished NOW.

They are not being accomplished within different time frameworks.  This is merely a configuration of your reality through perception.  But within consciousness, they are all beside you.

You are not moving through a reincarnational cycle, and you are not playing out scenarios in a karmic vein.  You are merely manifesting within a physical dimension to be experiencing all that may be explored within the vastness of the design of this particular physical dimension, and exploring the depths of all of the emotional and physical qualities of experience in this particular dimension.

Now; through your beliefs, you have attached quite duplicitous expressions to all that you experience within this dimension, but as you widen your awareness and allow yourself to explore all of your experiences, and you familiarize yourself with yourself as essence, you also recognize that these are merely beliefs.

They ARE a base element to this particular physical dimension, but this is not to say that they need be limiting of you.

They have served quite purposefully previously.  They have allowed you a tremendous exploration of the intricacies of your emotional expressions and qualities.  They have allowed you to exercise your psychological aspects of yourselves.  They have allowed you a tremendous motivation within your thought processes, and they have allowed you tremendous diversity in physical sensation and experience.

But you have created a reality in which you hold many, many focuses, and they are already experiencing all of these aspects of this physical reality.

NOW you choose to expand the wonder of this physical reality, and in this, you allow yourselves more of an awareness in objective terms, that you may offer to yourselves the remembrance of essence and the recognition that in reality, you ARE experiencing as influenced through your beliefs, and that at times these beliefs may be limiting to you, and as you choose to be accepting of these beliefs, you also do not create the obstacles and limitations that your beliefs provide you with.  Therefore, you allow yourselves much more of an expression of creativity and freedom.

Now; as to this individual experience, you have allowed yourself the depth and breadth of exploration of the emotional and physical and psychological expressions in conjunction with this type of creation; a participation in specific physical experiences that offers you a tremendous understanding of self, of other individuals, and of your reality.

But recognize also, it is an experience.  It is not to be judged in good or bad.  It is an experience, and this is not a measure of worth or value.  It is an experience that you have chosen to participate within, and you choose other experiences in other focuses that hold equal intensity in very different types of expressions, those that you would identify and define as rapturous and very good.  These matter not either.  They are also an experience, and are not good or bad.

But this particular recognition has allowed you the opportunity to move through a very strong belief in the area of karma, which is very influencing in this focus.  For in this focus, as you may allow yourself the understanding that you are not participating in any action which may be identified as karma, and that this is merely a belief that you may choose to participate in or not, you also may afford this same consideration, if you will, to other individuals, recognizing that as they create their reality, they also are not participating in a cycle of karma, regardless of your assessment or their assessment of the rightness or wrongness of their creation and their choices.  Are you understanding?

GEORGIA:  Thank you.  You know, I really have been working through that and trying to understand that and to learn that, and I’m getting there.  It’s great to hear you tell me this because it helps me know that I am beginning to get a little understanding of what’s really going on, that it’s just an experience, just something to enjoy.

ELIAS:  And you ARE understanding to a point, and you continue to widen your awareness.  You are offering yourself gifts, and in these gifts, you offer yourself validation.

GEORGIA:  Yes.  I had a dream.  My husband had a stroke in 1977, and we had moved back to Texas from South Carolina, and I was having a very difficult time.  I had a dream where I was with my father, and I was beginning to start on a ... I perceived it as a test.

It was a mountain climb, and it started out as two foothills, and the mountain got bigger.  It was easy at first, and then the mountain got higher, and I was at this for days, weeks maybe, and I was bleeding from the climb.  I had cuts and bruises, and I was climbing, and I was getting closer to the top, and I felt above me, and there was like glass, and I could see the top of the mountain.  I could reach it.  A man leaned over the top and said, “Let go and I’ll catch you.”  And I said, “I’m not stupid,” and turned around and went back down the mountain! (Laughing)

It was such a profound dream, and it made me realize that I really do need to let go and accept, that there’s more than just me here, that I’m more than just Georgia, and to let go and let myself get help and ask for help, and I’m going to try to do it all from this side.  And I try to hold that dream, and when I get scared — because I still get scared — to consciously let go and say, “Please, I do need help.”

ELIAS:  And what do you aspire to?  For you already are!

GEORGIA:  That’s right, yes!  It’s just that I ... yeah, you said it!  I know that at some level, and yet at the same time, I get trapped in the reality.  I let myself forget again, and when I do, I think my letting go just helps me to remember now.

ELIAS:  Quite!  Therefore, you may also offer to yourself the interpretation of your mountain, and look to yourself, and each time you recognize that you are creating your climb upon your mountain again in your objective imagery, you may express to yourself, “Why shall I climb this mountain, to aspire to what?  I already am.”

GEORGIA:  Right!  Yes!  Thank you! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

GEORGIA:  And then there was another dream I had where Jacob helped me look at myself, and look at the least little ... I have two puppy dogs that just came in here, so excuse the noise.

One, I was a little boy in a future life on another world, and the other world had a religious belief that they had always had.  It had never changed.  Our world and that world had been friends until they realized that earth had an infinite number of beliefs as to what God was and what reality was.  By that time, we had grown to realize that God is what each individual ... each individual creates God in their own image, and that’s okay, and that God is large enough to be what each one of us listens to, our heart’s belief, and that was okay.

But this other world couldn’t see that, and so we were going to go to war, us for our belief that we could believe in anything, and theirs that we had to believe their way, which is, of course, a look at what we’re doing in the world today.  We came to have a last talk, and it was in a room in Washington with bright windows and a long table full of books, including their holy books — the Bible, the Koran — and a bunch of our holy books.  A man came in, and we were getting ready to talk, to try to avert the war without anyone changing who they were.

A stranger came in and he said, “I’m going to help you out because this war is not right.”  He picked up the book from the other world and he said, “This book tells the truth.”  We opened it up, and that beautiful light that we associate with holiness came out of that book, and you could see that it spoke the truth.  Then he picked up the Bible and he said, “Well, this book also tells the truth.”

Now, my personal beliefs came through because there were a couple of black spots in there, and he said, “Well, man tried to change it to portray their belief of the truth, but they didn’t really get to the basic truth, and it’s still within this book.”  And he kept picking up holy books and saying, “They’re all telling the truth, even in spite of man.”  And that made everybody, including the aliens, look and realize that truth is an individual thing, that truth can say two different things that seem to be opposed, and they can both be true.

And I thought that was amazing, but it was one of my dreams, and it’s helped me to realize that the beliefs which we consider truth — and the most basic belief is our belief in what God is, I think — is that that’s malleable, and it’s not static.  And so, I found that one of the most beautiful dreams I’ve ever had, and I think that’s one of the places I’m coming through now.  Is there something else I could have gotten out of this dream, except that God is who we create?  Or that God creates us, we create him, and he’s a personal thing?  It’s not something that you get.  I don’t even get God from you or from my other teachers.  It’s something I create myself.

ELIAS:  Very good!  I shall express to you that I would not be instructing you to be looking to myself or to any other essence or individual as greater than or more than yourself.

GEORGIA:  Oh, I know you wouldn’t, but that’s just what I got from it.  I know that!

ELIAS:  And in this, I may also express to you that you are offering yourself also information in symbology in the direction of the recognition of perception.  Perception is the element or the tool in which you create your reality.  It is that element of you that creates your reality in its entirety within this physical dimension.

(Leaning forward and speaking intently)  And in this, each of you that is physically manifest upon your planet within this physical dimension holds a different perception.  Each of you are highly unique and individualized.  Therefore, there are no absolutes, for what may be held in truth, as you have stated, in the perception of one individual may be quite different in the perception of another individual.

Each belief that you may view as the same within each individual is NOT the same within individuals.  Beliefs may be identified, but the perception of each individual creates it differently.

And in this, you have offered yourself a tremendous element of information, for this is a key piece in movement into acceptance.  For if you are moving in conjunction with another individual, but they may express certain elements of their reality differently than you may express within your reality, you create an open window for judgment if you are not recognizing that each individual’s reality IS reality, and it is a creation through their unique perception.

GEORGIA:  Like my husband Malcolm.  He lives in his own reality, which is okay.  It intersects well with mine, but it’s different.

ELIAS:  You ALL live, so to speak, within differences of reality.  Some of you may express communications which may appear surfacely that you are creating the same reality.  But in actuality, even within that sameness, there are differences.

GEORGIA:  Differences, yes.

I was going to ask you about my husband Malcolm.  He’s in assisted living right now, and he wants to leave.  He wants to live on his own.  I have a strong belief that to do what’s best for someone else is to do what’s best for me too, and I’m hoping I’m coming from the highest thing by encouraging him to stay in assisted living.

I want to ask if I’m being fair to him, if I’m holding him back or if I’m really helping him, or am I just helping myself by asking him to stay there?

ELIAS:  I shall express to you two responses to this question.

One response is that you are interacting with this individual, and you are participating, both, in this interaction, and in this, he is creating his choices and his reality, and you are creating yours.

Now; bearing this in your thoughts, I shall offer the second response.

You are neither being helpful to yourself or to this individual in your expression, but it is not a question of helpfulness.

I offer to you that you are expressing through your beliefs and your desire, and he is expressing through his belief and his desire, and there are differences within your beliefs and your desires — or your wants — and your motivation is different.  You are each motivating your expressions from self.

Your motivation from self is to be expressing that you want this individual to continue in the direction that is already established, for within your belief, this is helpful, and this facilitates a type of lifestyle or existence that is acceptable, and within your individual beliefs, it allows you an element of comfort and less worry.

GEORGIA:  Yes.

ELIAS:  Within the other individual, the belief and the perception is different.  The belief is that it is unnecessary for helpfulness, and the want is to not incorporate helpfulness, and the want is to be creating the reality autonomously.

GEORGIA:  Okay.

ELIAS:  Now, one moment.  Let me also express to you that I am not offering you this explanation, that you may be discounting of yourself OR chastising of yourself, and expressing to yourself that you have been moving in a wrong direction or creating a wrong expression, for you are not.  You are merely expressing through your beliefs and what offers you an expression of comfort, and this is not wrong.

You are not blocking or limiting the other individual, for you do not possess this ability.  You may not create the reality for the other individual.

Therefore, as he continues to participate in the reality which is presently, he is creating that choice.  You are not creating that choice, and you are not restricting of him or blocking of his movement.  If he is genuinely desiring of an alteration in the situation that he has created for himself, he shall effect a change.

GEORGIA:  That’s right.  He isn’t blocked.  He can change it.

ELIAS:  Yes, he may, and if he is choosing to be changing the situation, he shall change the situation.  This is not the point.

The point is that you engage interaction with this individual in conflict concerning the situation, and the point is that you wish not to be engaged in the conflict concerning the situation.

Therefore, I express to you, it is not a situation in which you may remove yourself, and this shall eliminate obstacles or shall offer more helpfulness to this individual in the choices that he creates, but that you may recognize that your participation is merely in the back and forth of the conflict, in the disagreement.

GEORGIA:  Okay.

ELIAS:  And you may choose to disengage that conflict, and this shall not be creating the choice for the other individual.

You may express to the other individual, “Very well.  If you are choosing to be altering your circumstances and your situation, do so.”  This is not to say that he shall create that change.

GEORGIA:  Okay.

ELIAS:  Or you may express repeatedly, pleadingly, “Do not alter your situation or your circumstances,” and he may choose to be altering of it regardless.

GEORGIA:  Yeah.  Okay.  Well, thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

GEORGIA:  I have one more question ‘cause I have like about five minutes to go.

My work place is very chaotic right now, and it’s something I’ve helped create.  I realize that.  I think it’s something that about twenty thousand-some-odd people are creating right now, including the students, but especially the staff and the faculty — I work at a community college.

It’s a very stressful place to work, and it’s a very exciting place to work.  Is there anything I can do help — I know I have to work on myself — to calm people down, to get them to look at themselves?  To get myself to look at myself and say, “Hey, I’m a part of this!”  I guess I should be the little sapling, yes?

ELIAS:  Yes!

GEORGIA:  And behave honestly and try to not participate and do my job?  I don’t know, but it needs to calm down.  I feel it should calm down.

ELIAS:  As you create....

GEORGIA:  What can I do to help the situation?

ELIAS:  As you create the situation of BEING the straight little sapling, you shall be more helpful and more affecting than any other expression that you may project outwardly.

Recognize that within this time framework in the action of this shift in consciousness, agitation, conflict, and trauma merely increases and continues, for this is an element of this shift in consciousness, and within this time framework presently, there is an extreme expression.

GEORGIA:  Oh boy!

ELIAS:  And in this, individuals are accessing energy to be creating of extremes within their experiences quite easily and effortlessly, and shall continue to do so as you continue to be moving within the action of this shift and addressing to these waves in consciousness which address to specific belief systems, and drawing surfacely all of the aspects and expressions of each of these belief systems.

As to how you may be altering of the behaviors or actions of other individuals, physically and objectively, you may not!

GEORGIA:  Oh I know I can’t, but I can be the example, right, and not participate?

ELIAS:  You may be quite influencing and you may be QUITE helpful as you continue to turn your attention to self, as you do not lend energy to the expression of the conflicts, and as you express acceptance, for this shall be noticed, not merely subjectively....

GEORGIA:  Elias, our time is up.  I’ve really ... you know, Mary made me promise to tell you!

ELIAS:  Very well, but I shall continue my response, and at that point, we shall disengage.

GEORGIA:  Okay.

ELIAS:  I shall continue to express to you that in this, as you allow yourself to move more and more in the expression of acceptance of yourself, you shall also automatically begin an expression of acceptance of other individuals, and other individuals shall notice!  They shall view OBJECTIVELY, not merely subjectively, and they shall also be influenced.

In this, you all are inspired by calm.  You may move easily and automatically into agitation and excitement, but you are also all inspired by calm and you magnate to the expression of calm, for this is your inner desire, and therefore, it shall be noticed as you continue to practice and create this acceptance within you.

GEORGIA:  Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome, my friend.

GEORGIA:  I hope we talk again soon.

ELIAS:  I shall be anticipating of that meeting.  I express to you tremendous affection this day, and great encouragement for your continuation of your movement.  Be knowing, I am always participating with you.

GEORGIA:  Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS:  To you this day, I express a very loving au revoir.

GEORGIA:  Bye-bye.

Elias departs at 3:53 PM.

FOOTNOTES:

(1)  Georgia requested that I include a note saying that she meant to say the French-Indian war, not the American-Indian war.

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