Tuesday, January 11, 2000-2
© 2000 (Private)
Participants:  Mary (Michael), Cathy (Shynla), and briefly, David (Mylo).
Elias arrives at 4:21 PM. (Arrival time is 19 seconds).

ELIAS:  Good afternoon, Shynla. (Smiling)

CATHY:  Your glorious individual here! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Very well!

CATHY:  I want to ask you about the emotional expression I had when I was talking on the phone to another trainer that wanted to use my dog Caleigh that I gave away a year-and-a-half ago.  She just wanted her to do a short thing, and when she said it, I immediately said, “Oh, it’s funny that you should ask about this dog.”  Because she normally lives in Oregon, but she was going to be in California, and my friend Sue was going to be going up to where the dog was because her sister owns it now.

Anyway, it was really hard for me to finish the conversation with the other trainer on the phone because I felt things welling up inside of me, and in my last session, you mentioned to me that I put a negative on emotional expressions.  I had the emotional expression, and when it was over, it was over, and I didn’t really think about it.  But I think — and I don’t know if I’m going into psychology here — I think it had to do with my friend Sue somehow.  Do you have any information on that?  I’m just trying to figure it out.

ELIAS:  And in the direction of allowing yourself not to be discounting of yourself, offer to me your impression.

CATHY:  Well, for some reason, I guess I had projected and thought that Sue and I were going to be working on a different project, and she ended up taking another project, and she won’t be working with me for at least the next six months anyway, and I had found a niche.  I had found a place where I was comfortable working jobs with Sue, and she wasn’t going to be there; not that I wasn’t happy for her in her decision, but for some reason, I don’t know why, I think that when this other trainer called about this job involving this dog I used to own, it just triggered this emotional thing in me, and I don’t know.  I just think it’s connected, and I don’t know why.  It was like it triggered an emotional response that maybe I wouldn’t have had if the whole subject of the dog and the other job hadn’t presented itself.

ELIAS:  First of all, Shynla, allow yourself presently, within this now, [to] recognize your tension.  Recognize your beginnings of your reenactment of the emotional expression.

CATHY:  Yes....

ELIAS:  Recognize your blocking of that energy and your holding to that energy, and how you are not allowing a free flow.

CATHY:  True.

ELIAS:  Therefore, within this now, first of all, I shall express to you, engage your breath.  Allow yourself [to] relax.

CATHY:  I’ve always hated that word! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  This is not quite as difficult as you perceive it to be!  Let us engage what you are creating presently, for this also shall offer you information as to what you have engaged previously.

Within the now, in this very present moment, allow yourself to identify your fear. (Pause)

CATHY:  Identify my fear right now....

ELIAS:  Presently, within this moment, for this is the expression of energy which you are creating, which is objectifying in this expression of tension and emotional expression and your struggling and your holding to energy.  BREATHE!

Now; I shall momentarily excuse, in this presence ... I shall address to Mylo to be removing self from this physical presence. (Exit David)

Now, Shynla, the only physical presence objectively interactive in this now is yourself and myself.  In the interaction with myself, there is no expression beyond acceptance.  It matters not what you are creating.  It matters not how you are manifesting or expressing of your energy.  There is no judgment.  There is no affectingness of this essence.  Therefore, the expression is yours in freedom.  Now, express to me the identification of your fear.

CATHY:  The identification of my fear would be that I wouldn’t be able to accomplish whatever it was they wanted the dog to do.

ELIAS:  Singularly; and what is your identification of your fear NOW?

CATHY:  It’s probably you.

ELIAS:  And? (Short pause)

You are experiencing a projection of energy in two directions.  You are projecting energy in a manifestation of fearfulness of the physical focus of Mylo and the association that you hold within you of your perception that your emotional expression is unacceptable or that you may viewed as unacceptable, or — in your very physical terms — stupid.  And in this, your fear that you project outwardly in the other direction, to me, is the fear OF acceptance.

Do you view what I am expressing to you?  You hold the fear of the lack of acceptance that you perceive from the physically focused individual, and you project the fear OF the acceptance of the non-physically focused.  For the lack of acceptance, in your perception, is the reinforcement of your own expression of a lack of acceptance, and the projection OF acceptance from myself is also a reinforcement of your lack of acceptance of self.

For there is an issue which lies here in your assessment of worth, and as you do not express the acceptance of self, it is unacceptable for myself to offer acceptance to you, for you are not worthy of it.  Therefore, “Why shall Elias waste his time and energy with myself?  For I am attempting and attempting and trying and trying, and I am not assimilating,” and in your terms, Shynla, “I am not getting it.”  These are your words, and this is incorrect.  You ARE getting it.  You and I have experienced this exchange of energy for much time framework in your physical linear time, in which in each experience that we engage interaction, you project this same energy.

CATHY:  And it’s all just not accepting myself.  Well, I don’t know how to do that!

ELIAS:  Shynla, identify to me, what is so very horrifying within you?  What are you so very lacking of?

CATHY:  I can’t say I’m lacking of anything that hits me.  I don’t mean to not say it — I don’t know what it is!

ELIAS:  What you are so very lacking of, in your assessment, in your perception, is the objective outward manifestation of parlor tricks.

Shynla, I have quite purposefully offered, in my example of orientations, you.  For in this, it is not merely an offering to other individuals, that they may gain an objective understanding of the differences of expressions and qualities in energy and in creation of reality of these three orientations, but that you also may allow yourself permission to be accepting the free flow of energy in the manner that YOU naturally express; not in the manner that Michael expresses his energy and his directions, not in the manner that Lawrence expresses his energy and his directions, but in the manner that YOU express.

And in this orientation of intermediate, your focus, your natural movement of energy, is not necessarily an objective expression, an objective manifestation.  But you continue to attempt to place yourself as this round peg into the triangular hole: “I shall make myself fit.  I shall make myself experience.  I shall do this thing.”  You already ARE doing. (Pause)

CATHY:  I don’t know where I’m supposed to go with that information you just gave me.  I don’t know how to process it.

ELIAS:  Then stop.

You need not be, in this objective now, processing objectively.  You hold the orientation of intermediate.  You, in your terms, process the information, the interaction — yourself — subjectively.  It is unnecessary for you to “do” with it, for you are already doing, and this is the point.

Allow yourself the permission to relax and to view that your expression is acceptable in what it is.  It need not be otherwise.

You need not express to myself or to any physically focused individual, “I know not how to be processing this information.  I do not know what to do with what you say to me, Elias.”  This is the view, within you, of the process of an individual that holds the orientation of common, which you are not in this focus.

In this, view genuinely, Shynla, how you reinforce how you are not getting it, how you are not understanding, or how you are expressing yourself in stupidity, for you are not processing in the manner that the orientation of common is processing information.  Therefore, what be the matter with you?  There is no “matter” with you!

I hold the awareness that you do acknowledge to yourself, in moments, how you have assimilated information and how you have offered yourself a validation in your objective movement, and this is the element of objective that IS an expression of this orientation of intermediate.  You SHALL allow yourselves validations objectively.

You shall create movement subjectively — inwardly — and you shall allow yourself to view alterations within your behavior which you have not necessarily concentrated upon, in your terms, in thoughts, in meditations.  You have not specifically expressed, over and over to yourself objectively, “I shall interact in this manner.  I shall create a meditation every day, and I shall create this behavior, and it shall become automatic.”  No.  It is unnecessary, for the natural flow of energy that you hold in this orientation affords you this without a thought process, for you are not creating outwardly.  You are creating inwardly.

And therefore, you express to other individuals (chuckling) ... what do you express to other individuals?

CATHY:  “I don’t know.”

ELIAS:  Quite!  And this, although you move this many times into an expression of invalidation, in actuality, many times also it is NOT an invalidation.  It is genuine, for objectively, you do not allow yourself the knowing, so to speak.  You merely DO.  You merely manifest.

Another individual may approach you, and the area that you reinforce your discounting of self is that as the other individual approaches you objectively and expresses in inquiry, “How have you created this?” and you express “I do not know,” you objectively physically hear those words, and although they are genuine — and reality — you immediately turn your assessment to self and express to yourself, “Why do I not know?  This is unacceptable.  I should know.”  It is unnecessary for you to be objectively knowing, so to speak, of all that you are moving through and in and to, in a manner of speaking.

Let me express to you quite genuinely, Shynla, the manifestation of the orientation of intermediate does not concern itself with these type of expressions, for these individuals are not concerned with the mechanics, so to speak, of how their reality is created objectively, but more concerned with that it BE created.

Think to yourself, Shynla, it matters not how you shall create a particular movement in your focus.  It matters to you that you create it.  Your process holds much less importance to you than your outcome.

CATHY:  True.

ELIAS:  This is a natural movement, for the process, so to speak, is subjective.  You are not concerning yourself objectively with that process, and this is quite natural.  You DO allow yourself to view the product, so to speak.

(Deliberately)  The action of comparison can be quite influencing in hurtfulness to self.  It moves energy in a direction of competition, and competition is not an expression of acceptance, and you need not be competing with any other individual, with any other essence, for there is no necessity for competition.

CATHY:  Well, all that does is just make me think I’m just really weird! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  But you are not!

The reason that you are expressing of this and you allow your thoughts to move in this direction is that you do not view many other individuals that you encounter objectively that express in this same manner.  And I shall express to you, of these three orientations, as I have stated previously, this one of intermediate is the least manifest in any given time framework.  There are fewer individuals manifest holding this orientation than the other two orientations.

CATHY:  And that just reinforces my weirdness! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  This is not weird, Shynla.  This, in like manner to what you have allowed yourself to listen to in my interaction with Mylo, is a situation that you have presented yourself with to offer yourself the opportunity to turn your perception slightly.

I am aware of the difficulty that is expressed in that slight turn, and I am not discounting of the tremendous conflict and difficulty that you experience in that slight turn, but I am identifying the turn to you.  I have not identified the turn to Mylo.  Mylo may be finding the turn himself.  The turn with you is the recognition of your orientation, and that this is quite natural, and that this is acceptable.

My expression to you within this session to BREATHE has been quite purposeful.  Allow yourself this expression.  Allow yourself this allowance, and as you look to self and as you automatically move your attention into your comparison and into your attempt to be expressing in similar or like manner to other individuals, be remembering of this conversation that we engage and express to yourself — and I shall offer energy to you also in those moments — express to yourself, “STOP, Shynla!  BREATHE!”  Allow your own energy to flow.

CATHY:  Okay.  I didn’t quite understand ... I guess I understand why you asked David to leave, I think.  I don’t know.  I didn’t feel like I wouldn’t still keep crying or doing whatever, or go to the place of not answering....

ELIAS:  I am aware.  I shall respond, in your confusion.

I have engaged the request that Mylo be removing physical presence, that there may be no interference in energy between the flow which is in motion between yourself and myself.

I hold, as I have stated, the understanding of your assimilation and of your natural flow of energy in your expression of your orientation of intermediate, and in this moment and in this interaction that you and I engage, I have chosen to be interactive in a stream of energy in subjective communication to you without any other interference of energy physically present.

This is not an expression that you objectively would be discontinuing your interaction with myself or that you would not be allowing yourself objectively to be expressing of yourself.

But the movement of energy is quite real, and I may express to you that Mylo manipulates energy quite well, (Cathy laughs) and Mylo is projecting of energy quite strongly, and presently, within this time framework now, Mylo is projecting energy outwardly quite strongly.

Therefore, to not be incorporating an interference in the flow of energy subjectively communicating between yourself and myself, I have requested the removal of that physical energy.

CATHY:  And what was the crystal ball part?  I didn’t understand.  Is it because you’re doing this subjective whatever it is you’re doing or we’re doing?  I didn’t understand that part either. (Pause)

ELIAS:  There is an assimilation of information and energy which is created objectively also.  In this, many times you offer yourself an allowance of more clarity if you are not engaging distraction.

CATHY:  Okay.  You mean if there’s not like a bunch of people I can hide behind? (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Or even one individual that you may be bouncing your thoughts back and forth to.

CATHY:  So, can we move on to the little thing about spirituality?  I understand that spirituality is everything — it’s my essence, it’s me, it’s my physical body, it’s everything.  You did address to it in my last session, but I was busy tweaking out and doing other things, so we didn’t go there.  But you said you would, so would you?

ELIAS:  You are correct in your offering of identification of qualities of spirituality, and I shall be acknowledging of your presentment of these identifications.  Now allow yourself the recognition of the reality of these identifications.

For to this point within your beliefs, the genuine expression of spirituality that you have created in your beliefs is that it is some element which is outside of you, and — in like manner to Mylo — that you need be acquiring.

Now; this presents a different type of conflict within you, for you align with this family of Milumet.  Therefore, the belief that you hold is in conflict with the expression of energy of intent of that family and of your alignment.  It moves in disharmony, for within you subjectively and in your alignment with this particular family, you hold a knowing of the identification you have recited to me.

Within your objective expression, there has been an incorporation of a belief which separates elements, and which incorporates the assessment that true spirituality is an element that you acquire through knowledge, through experience, and through actions.

This also serves as a reinforcement with you in a discounting of self, for underlyingly, you express to yourself that you are of this alignment in Milumet, and therefore you should be accomplishing the action of acquiring spirituality, for this is the natural expression of the intent of this particular family.  And once again, what be wrong with you, that you are not creating this?

But this also moves us into the expression of recognizing that you also are redefining.  You are redefining your terms and recognizing that your term of spirituality, in reality, is not what it has been defined as previously.  It is not an element to be acquired or to strive to or to be creating, for you do not create spirituality.  You ARE spirituality.

Let me express to you, Shynla, this is the element of the lack of separation.

You may look to all of your reality in this physical dimension, and in the definition of spirituality, look to all of the physical elements.  Every physical element within this reality is you — your earth, your planets, your sky, your oceans, your mountains, your stars, your universe.  They are not outside of you.  They ARE you, and you are them.

This is the incorporation of actual spirituality — the recognition that there is no separation.  All is consciousness.  There is no outside of consciousness, for consciousness IS all that is, and you are all of it.

CATHY:  I can say that to myself, when I’m raking leaves and stuff.  I don’t know whether I believe it or not, but at least I notice it.

ELIAS:  I am aware that you are noticing, and this IS movement that is natural to you, for you ARE aligning yourself in this focus with this family of Milumet and their qualities and the expression of intent and energy of this family.  You are this also, and in this, you DO, in part, allow yourself the natural flow of energy and the natural expression, and this is the turn of attention that I am expressing to you.  Merely allow yourself to continue in that expression.

CATHY:  Well, okay, I will.  But I’m trying to understand some of the things I draw myself to.  So why do I get all ... I’m breathing, I’m breathing! (Pause, as Cathy collects herself)

I’m just trying to figure things out, and I’m trying to understand why I draw myself or why I feel more comfortable, say, working with Sue versus working with Mark.  I know it’s a mirror thing with Sue, but it’s a mirror thing with Mark too, and they’re so different.

To me, Mark is more challenging because we don’t have the same perception of how to achieve a behavior with an animal, whereas Sue and I are very similar in how we achieve certain behaviors with animals, and in this present ... well, not in this present moment, ‘cause I’m projecting, I’m aware!  But she’s going away for a small period of time, and it’s no biggie, but then this other scenario has presented itself to me.

I look at situations, and I’ve never really asked about people that I choose to do things with.  I’ve never really gone to that place of asking about their family or alignment, and I don’t know why, but I’m very certain and sure that Sue is aligned with Vold.  Am I correct?

ELIAS:  You are correct.

CATHY:  And as far as the other person, I don’t want to know!

ELIAS:  Your question moves in the direction of why you are drawing yourself to certain individuals and why you are creating the challenges that you create in conjunction with those individuals.

We may view this particular example that you express now.

In this particular example, you draw yourself to this individual, for she offers you a reinforcement in your perception of your definition of safety, and in this perception of safety, you shall allow yourself less of an expression of doubt of yourself and your movement and your choices, and therefore, you offer yourself a temporary expression to be reinforcing yourself in an acceptance of self.

In this, you also present yourself with a challenge, in the movement of this individual away from yourself in physical proximity and the presentment of interaction with another individual.

In your allowance of yourself to be holding within your energy — not holding to your energy, but holding within your energy — you offer yourself the opportunity to continue in your expression of acceptance of self, which shall provide you your expression of safety through yourself, not through another individual.

Therefore, you create your scenario of challenge.  You offer yourself the opportunity.  And now, shall you meet the challenge?

CATHY:  Well, that’s where it is!

ELIAS:  You have offered yourself a time framework in which you HAVE reinforced yourself.  You have allowed yourself objectively to be validating of self, to be offering yourself an expression objectively of safety, to be accepting of self and of your choices, to be allowing yourself an expression of trust and an element of a lack of questioning within yourself.

NOW, little baby bird, you may push yourself out of the nest and allow yourself the challenge to fly alone!

CATHY:  I kinda knew that, I guess. (Pause)  Well, I don’t know where to go now. (Pause)

How about, I don’t allow an exploration of myself because it appears too fearful?  How ‘bout that one?  (Reference session )

ELIAS:  And this moves quite in conjunction with our discussion this day.  Turn your attention to your natural flow of energy in your orientation.  Allow yourself to be paying attention to your orientation and the flow of energy in its natural expression.

This shall afford you much information in the expressions of how you are creating fearfulness and how you are creating limitations and how you are creating discounting of self, for you are incorporating a continuous attempt to be modifying your behavior into a manner that is the expression of another orientation, which is not a natural flow, and this creates a tremendous expression of conflict.  It creates a tremendous expression of struggle, whereas you are trying to be an expression of energy that you are not.

CATHY:  Well, I don’t really get how I’m trying to do that, and of course I’m gonna go to my workplace, ‘cause that’s where my issues are and that’s pretty much what I do is my work, ‘cause I like the animals, and the people are there and I have to deal ‘cause they’re there!  But I still don’t know exactly....

ELIAS:  Shynla, let us view a simple scenario.  You express a pushing and a pushing and a pushing of yourself to be objectively creating an action of projection, and you continue to be attempting to engage this action and you continue to force your energy in a particular direction to be expressing this action of projection.  One example.

And in this, you continue to reinforce yourself in your lack of ability, your assessment in reinforcement of your lack of worth, your lack of acceptability, for you continue to express that you cannot accomplish in this manner.  “But other individuals create this action.  Therefore, I shall too.”

CATHY:  Okay, I get that. (Laughing)  I get that! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS:  And I shall express to you, look also to the brief moments in which you are not experiencing conflict, for you allow yourself a momentary expression of acceptance, of it matters not: “I am not creating this action.  I am not moving in this direction.  I am not projecting.  Therefore, I also choose not to be participating in the action in which other individuals are creating this action in fun.  I am not experiencing fun, for my energy is not moving in this direction.”  For this is EFFORT with yourself, Shynla!  You do not naturally create outwardly!

CATHY:  Well, I did stop doing them! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  And I am expressing acknowledgment of this.  This IS what I am expressing to you, that you have, in moments, afforded yourself an expression of acceptance of self in stopping, in discontinuing your attempt to be fitting yourself into the experiences of other individuals and creating in like manner.

CATHY:  Okay, I think I’m kinda getting it now! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Very well.  Allow yourself to breathe with this.  This is enough information.

CATHY:  Oh, isn’t it though!

ELIAS:  And I shall reiterate to you that I shall offer energy to you in the moments that you need be mustering your “stop.”

CATHY:  Mustering my breathing, you mean?

ELIAS:  Yes.

CATHY:  ‘Cause it’s really uncomfortable for me.  It really is!

ELIAS:  I am aware.

CATHY:  But it’s ... well, look!  Here we go again!  Why?  What is up with this?  Is it because I think crying is horrible and bad?  Why??

ELIAS:  Allow yourself to relax.  It matters not!  Allow yourself this emotional expression.  Shall you melt?

CATHY:  (Cracking up)  No!  But when you’re in a roomful of trainers and somebody is tweaking what you’ve done with an animal to the maximum and your beliefs are running rampant, you don’t want to fall apart because that’s unacceptable!  That’s really hard!

ELIAS:  Unacceptable within the expression of the common orientation, which dictates many of the guidelines of the mass beliefs!

CATHY:  Well, okay.  And in that brief comment, is Sue common?

ELIAS:  Yes.

CATHY:  And would Mark be soft?

ELIAS:  Yes.

CATHY.  Okay.  Okay, thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

CATHY:  I’m done — I’m so done! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Be remembering, I shall be projecting in energy to you.

CATHY:  Okay.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  And in much affection to you also.

CATHY:  Thanks.

ELIAS:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 5:29 PM.

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