Sweala and Grelko — Part 3
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“Sweala and Grelko — Part 3”
Sunday, December 3, 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Howard (Bosht), and Margot (Giselle).
Elias arrives at 2:25 p.m. (Arrival time is 21 seconds)
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
MARGOT: Hi Elias, my friend!
ELIAS: HA HA! Giselle, my friend!
MARGOT: Well, I’m here again! I come around like everything
else does — I cycle through and cycle out!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: The last time we talked, the session did record, but the
recording didn’t have any sound. Can you provide any clues as to
why that occurred? Was it me, or what happened?
Vic’s note: This would be session #718, 11/5/00. It was
strange because the sound began to record, but stopped before Elias arrived.
ELIAS: Express to me your impression of this event, first of all.
MARGOT: My impression of that event was that there wasn’t any
reason that there should not have been any sound, because as I recall,
I was in a good space — I’m pretty much always in a good space when I talk
to you — and I really didn’t have any other impression at all.
ELIAS: Now; examining this, you offer information to yourself,
and you assess that you are not interfering with the sound of this particular
interaction. Therefore, you yourself individually have not created
an interruption of the sound, and you are validating this to yourself,
correct?
MARGOT: That would be true, but what I create many times, I am
not objectively aware of.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Or so your thoughts dictate to you!
MARGOT: Yes.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: Ha ha ha. (Mimicking Elias in a droll manner)
ELIAS: Let me express to you, Giselle, that in actuality, this
physical creation has manifest in relation to the information which was
discussed in that particular conversation, and in this, in agreement with
yourself and myself, this has been a joint projection of energy which created
that affectingness.
MARGOT: Was it having to do with the fact that I asked you about
the other reality?
ELIAS: No.
MARGOT: Oh, okay. So why did we agree then, or can I know
that?
ELIAS: In this, what was discussed in that particular conversation
was prevented from being transcribed and offered as what you may term to
be general information in relation to time. The factor of time was
the influencing aspect of why that particular information was not offered
to be transcribed within that communication that we engaged together.
Let me express to you, certain communications are engaged and there
may be information offered to an individual within a particular time framework
that may be beneficial to the individual in that time framework, but may
not necessarily be assimilated without an incorporation of much distortion
by other individuals. Are you following thus far?
MARGOT: Yes.
ELIAS: In this, generally in those interactions, the conversation
may not be chosen to be transcribed. At times the conversation may
not be taped.
MARGOT: Yeah ... and this has to do with time?
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Or the time framework in which it occurred?
ELIAS: Yes, for the time framework in which it occurred is not
in harmony with the direction of information being offered and received
in the construct of the least distortion.
MARGOT: After I found out there wasn’t going to be any sound on
the tape, then I went back through, and I’d made some notes of everything
during the session, and nothing struck me as being easily distorted.
ELIAS: Ah, but this is the point. In your terms, nothing
has struck YOU as holding the ability to be easily distorted.
MARGOT: That’s true! (Laughing)
ELIAS: And therefore, you and I engaged the conversation.
In this, it matters not that objectively you may choose to be not allowing
yourself an awareness of how information may be interpreted by other individuals.
First of all, this is not your responsibility. Therefore, it is
unnecessary for you to be incorporating that direction.
But within essence and within my agreement of an energy exchange in
the manner in which it is offered, I do hold an awareness of how information
shall be translated in specific time frameworks. I am aware that
there is an expression of difference in the offering of information in
conversation with individuals and the transcribing of information, but
this all is quite purposeful also.
MARGOT: Oh, I’m sure that it is. I don’t doubt that at all.
ELIAS: In this, it may objectively appear that the time framework
matters not, for within your perception, there appears to be not a tremendous
difference of time — that within one conversation information may be expressed,
and in the translation of the transcribing, it shall be set forth, so to
speak, and shall be misinterpreted, and within a short, so to speak, time
framework, similar information may be offered and it shall not incorporate
much distortion as it is assimilated by individuals.
But I shall express to you, within this time framework presently, there
is much very swift movement occurring within individuals, and therefore,
what you view as a small passage of time may be quite significant in the
lack of distortion that may be incorporated in some aspects of information.
MARGOT: I do understand that. I can testify on my own that
the reality that I have been in for the last few days has been very different,
and I’m very much aware that there are elements in my reality that I’m
only translating in a certain way for myself.
I have even wondered — I’ve spent a lot of time wondering and I was
going to get into this — in the last week or two if I’m more subject to
the energy of the wave that we’re in right now, or to the shift, or to
transition. And then on Friday, I was so scattered! It was
so difficult for me to focus on anything for more than a minute that I
began to wonder if the energy of this mass event that we’re in right now,
this election thing, might have something to do with it.
ELIAS: Partially, yes, you are correct.
MARGOT: I felt that way on Friday and decided that I was not nuts,
but that there was something going on that I didn’t understand. So,
yes, I do understand. I don’t understand everything about time that
I’d like to, but I do understand what you just said, and I thank you for
that explanation.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
I am acknowledging of you that you have validated to yourself that you
individually were not causing the disruption of sound in the physical taping
of our conversation, for I am also recognizing that within your expression
of yourself objectively, you do lean in the expression of chastising yourself
in actions that you attribute to yourself, such as this, and create a frustration
within yourself in discounting yourself.
In actuality, it has been created quite purposefully, through my energy
in agreement with yourself.
MARGOT: Well, yes, and I can recall that not too long ago, you
and I raised a red car out of somebody’s driveway!
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA! Quite!
MARGOT: I think we get along well, Elias! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Let me also express to you a significant point in this creation.
Were you not to be in agreement with that action, another avenue may have
been engaged in which I may have not offered information to you in the
manner that I did.
MARGOT: Oh, okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: I would not be interruptive of the sound of that conversation
were you not also to be agreeing to that action, for this would be creating
a choice, so to speak, for you, which is intrusive.
MARGOT: Yes, and I do understand that.
You have three new friends who would like to have a little more information
than they’ve already gotten from others in the forum. For Bridgett
— I think I’m saying that name correctly — she already has her essence
name and her family information. Now she would like to know if she
is in transition, and if so, for how long. (Pause)
ELIAS: Engaging the action of transition, yes; engaged within
the time framework, three and one-quarter years.
MARGOT: Okay. She also would like to know how many focuses
she has in this time frame.
ELIAS: In this time framework, four beside herself.
MARGOT: Okay. Then she must be a final focus. Can
I assume that?
ELIAS: You may inquire this of the individual!
MARGOT: Alright, I will! Would you also give me the number
of focuses she’s had in all time frameworks in this dimension?
ELIAS: Total numbering of focuses in this dimension, 1416.
MARGOT: Thank you. She would also like to know, for her
two sons, their essence names and the family information — that whole routine
that we get into. The first son’s name is Karsten. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Jaze; J-A-Z-E. Essence family, Sumafi;
alignment, Tumold; orientation, common.
MARGOT: Okay, and the second son is Tim. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Melvin; M-E-L-V-I-N. Essence family,
Ilda; alignment, Zuli; orientation, common.
MARGOT: Thank you very much.
For Anjuli — I think I said that right — she would like to have her
essence name, family information, orientation, and color signature tone.
(Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Miranda; M-I-R-A-N-D-A. Essence family,
Milumet; alignment, Borledim; orientation, soft.
MARGOT: Elias, I managed to pull the phone off of the desk, and
I cut myself off from you for just a minute there. I got the essence
name of Miranda, and I didn’t get the families. I did hear soft.
ELIAS: Milumet; alignment, Borledim.
MARGOT: Thank you. I’m sorry that occurred. And her
color tone signature? (Pause)
ELIAS: Color may be translated into what you identify as wintergreen.
MARGOT: Okay, and then I have a message from Lyran, who we know
as Ingomar, and he just wants me to tell you — and I’m gonna read this.
“If you would so mind thanking him for my name, thanking him for the
great work he is doing on all of us, and for turning my essence light back
on some more. Tell him that it is lighter around me now than it ever
was, thanks to him, and that should give him some bonus points in whatever
environment he is attached to presently, and I mean that dearly.
His sessions do not leave much more to ask for, but I will prepare, nevertheless,
a list of questions for him and see him personally, if I can arrange it,
next year.”
ELIAS: Very well, and you may express, you are welcome.
MARGOT: Okay, thank you. Okay, let me move on here.
I’d like to talk about the other reality, and I’m kind of wanting another
name for it than just “the other reality.”
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: And I did ask Sweala about what they call that reality,
and I’ll make that question first. I think I got a word that starts
with M-E-R, and it could have been, I felt, Meruna or something like that.
Can you give me any ideas about whether I brought that through?
ELIAS: Merluna.
MARGOT: Spell that.
ELIAS: M-E-R-L-U-N-A.
MARGOT: Oh! I was quite close! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Now; be recognizing that this is not
the identification of the reality, but the identification of....
MARGOT: The civilization.
ELIAS: Not necessarily the civilization, but more the identification
of the physical place, so to speak.
MARGOT: Yes. That’s what I asked her for. I told her,
of course, what we call that place, which we call it Boynton Canyon, and
then I got this M-E-R word back. This is a good way for me to begin
with this, because I don’t seem to have any problem at all trying to connect
with her. I had a good session with her, and then I stopped because
I was so doubtful of what I thought she had said. In a logical sense,
so to speak, it didn’t make sense to me, and that’s why I asked for this
session at this time, so that I could run some of this past you, because
I just came up with so many doubts, which is kind of the way I am when
I first get into a thing — I doubt a great deal.
So, one other statement she made to me, I think — she indicated that
their bodies have form, but no substance. Can you translate that
for me? (Laughing)
ELIAS: Substance meaning solidity in molecular structure as YOU
are familiar with.
MARGOT: Yes. That’s why I doubted, I think.
ELIAS: In this, there is solidity, in a manner of speaking, but
not in the construct that is familiar to you.
Within this physical reality, you direct energy in a manner in relation
to time that creates a physical structure in which the aspects of consciousness
or the links of consciousness move together in a density, so to speak.
MARGOT: Right. I think you’ve explained that before.
ELIAS: In this, you form an appearance of solidity in physical
matter, which creates the illusion of absoluteness in solidity.
MARGOT: Yes. I understand.
ELIAS: Now; in that, these individuals within this other-dimensional
expression do also create in physical matter, but the links of consciousness
are bound together more loosely, and therefore there is less of a solidity
within physical matter, which allows for more movement through what you
would term to be objects.
You create a perception that you may not move through a physical object.
In actuality, as I have stated many times, you do hold the ability to create
that action, but you believe that you may not move through a physical solid
object, for you also are a physical solid object.
Within that reality, their perception of their reality is less dense,
and therefore they allow themselves movement through other forms that may
appear to be solid.
MARGOT: I understand. We had a conversation about that in
which she said that they have observed the manner of our reality — being
such a physical reality to us — and the things we do and the way we create,
and they observe that this requires us a great deal of maintenance, just
of everything in our reality. Did I get the point behind that?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. This is the perception
of these individuals. You create much more of a manipulation of energy
within this physical reality.
Be remembering, as I have expressed to you previously and many times,
this particular physical reality is, in your terms, one of the most complex
and intricate physical realities that is expressed. Therefore, there
is much more of a manipulation of energy in creating and maintaining the
physical expression of it, and of yourselves!
MARGOT: Yes, I can certainly see that. Once a long time
ago, she told me she was involved in what I would refer to as “moon energy.”
Is this so? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Would my sense then be correct that this culture was or
is also responsible for our moon, the one we see in our sky?
ELIAS: It is not “responsible for,” but does incorporate that
aspect of creation into their reality also. It is interacted with
differently than you interact with it, but it is a shared expression.
MARGOT: Okay. I asked her — or I don’t know, maybe she brought
it up — if she has a pet. I saw it as a big dog, or the size of a
big dog, and she indicated to me that they create with thought forms, and
so this dog is a thought form. I doubted that after I got through.
Could you explain what she said to me? Is it a thought form?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. This is an accurate
translation into your understanding and your language, for it is a projection
of energy that creates a manifestation — in like manner to themselves —
holding less solidity or density than do you.
In this, their manipulation of energy through the creation of thought
is a different design than your creation of thought.
MARGOT: Yes, I see. She indicated that everything in their
reality is done in that manner — that I’m translating into thought form
— and that then when they don’t want what they brought into their reality
any longer, they just think it gone, and it is.
ELIAS: Correct.
MARGOT: Yes. It seems like all I have to do is think of
Sweala and talk about her and she’s here ... and she’s here right now,
I think. One of our cats has begun to have interaction with either
a playful essence or Sweala’s big dog, because our cat has been doing something
she’s never done before. She begins with a kind of a howl when this
energy is around, and begins to chase her. I mean, they’re playing.
She shows all of the symptoms of being frightened, but she’s having a good
time at the same time. If this isn’t the big dog of Sweala’s, what
is this? (12-second pause)
ELIAS: Ah! You may be inquiring of Sweala. It is not
that particular creature, but another creature that is incorporated in
that reality.
MARGOT: Oh! Well, does the creature come along when Sweala
and Grelko do, or does it come on its own?
ELIAS: At times, both.
MARGOT: Okay, that’s a great answer. Our friend Carol was
told years ago that she has a focus in that reality whose name is Fabar
— F-A-B-A-R, I believe — and that this Fabar works with death. I
asked Sweala about this, and she told me that his occupation is working
more with health — and death, but there’s a big health aspect. Is
this so? (Pause)
ELIAS: Correct. Understand that the action or the creation
of death is exhibited differently within that reality, and holds a different
meaning.
MARGOT: Oh, I’m sure that’s true. I don’t doubt that at
all.
ELIAS: The reason that it translates into your reality in this
term is that this particular term of death in your reality holds a similar
— although not the same — type of definition in action, in that your association
in this reality with the action of death is a movement that shall create
an emergence from one area of consciousness to another area of consciousness,
and in that action, many aspects of your reality alter, although not necessarily
immediately.
But [in] your association or your defining of death in your physical
reality, generally speaking — not necessarily information that I have offered
to you, but within your own definitions — you view this as a turning point,
or a movement from one type of reality to an entirely different type of
reality. This is what is dictated by your beliefs and how you define
this action of death. Therefore, you express terminology such as
“crossing over” or “moving to another side.”
In that definition, it is an accurate type of translation to offer that
terminology, and in relation to what you view as health. For within
the other reality, this type of action is altering of the entirety of the
individual’s reality, but in relation to a continuation within that reality.
In your physical terms, in a manner of speaking, it may be likened to a
crossing over into a different type of physical manifestation which is
related, in their terms, to a state of being physically, and therefore
may be translated, in your terms, as a state of health.
Are you understanding?
MARGOT: Yes. Yes, I am. In other words then, they
would be aware or in their presence, so to speak, and that’s probably not
the right term. But they would be aware and in communication with
those that have gone into this altered state of being?
ELIAS: Quite, for they are not disengaging....
MARGOT: Yes, I understand. That’s neat! (Laughing)
The last time we talked, you told me ... because we were trying to identify
who Grelko is in our present reality — what focus of whom Grelko is, better
said — and we think it’s Mary. (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
MARGOT: Ah! Thank you!
HOWARD: With a touch of Elias.
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA HA!
HOWARD: Is that correct?
ELIAS: No! (Chuckling)
HOWARD: No? Alright.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: (Laughing) Do you recall one time quite a while
ago, I talked to you about the evening I came home from work and seemed
to be in an altered state without knowing I’d gone there, and I saw what
I described to you as a golden temple back through the pine trees in our
yard there, and you did verify for me that that was in an other-dimensional
reality?
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Would this be in this reality that we’re referring to
now?
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Okay, I thought that was so. Also, you told Howard
last summer, I believe, that this place that we have always referred to
as a Lemurian colony, that they were connected to Lemuria because this
colony had been the ones that had founded or instigated or organized the
dimension we speak of as Lemuria.
ELIAS: You are correct.
MARGOT: Then the fact that I have always believed that that reality
of that continent was/is in place in this same area that this colony lives
in now would be true.
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Okay, great! That confirms that.
ELIAS: This also, I shall express to you, is the reason, so to
speak, that there are many individuals that hold strong associations with
what they view to be myths, so to speak ... in which, in YOUR physical
dimension, they may be viewed as mythological. But they are quite
real within other physical dimensions, and they are so closely associated
with your physical dimension that the veil, so to speak, is very thin.
MARGOT: Yes, I believe that. I’ve always felt very aligned
with this place, and I had read everything I could ever find on it, but
I had felt that it was just myth.
ELIAS: Correct. This is that you do recognize, within YOUR
reality, that there are aspects of your myth, so to speak, that do not
fit within your actual physical reality. But you translate much that
you allow to fit, and the reason that you create that translation is that
the veil IS quite thin and you DO hold focuses of your essence in both
physical realities, and therefore, you hold an awareness of the other,
almost to the point of its insertion into your reality.
You may liken this to your home, in which you incorporate more than
one room. Your physical body occupies one room within a particular
moment, but you hold an awareness of the other rooms and you hold a knowing
of their presence, even in the time frameworks that you are not physically
occupying them. They do not become unreal within your perception,
merely that you are not physically occupying them.
MARGOT: Yes, I understand that. I also have had a concept
within myself for a long time that since there’s so much overlapping, so
to speak, of dimensional realities within this dimension that I occupy,
that many of the things ... well, let me put it this way. I feel
that many of what we refer to as natural landmarks in my reality are in
other realities other things.
Well, here’s a good example ... I’m sorry that I’m stumbling around.
Down in the Boynton Canyon area, which is where this colony is, there are
a lot of outcroppings of rocks that look very much like buildings and things
like that, and this is why this place is so magical to everybody.
In my terms, I would say that we see them as rocks or as mountains or whatever,
but they’re actually other structures in other dimensions, and we’re only
getting our translation of it.
ELIAS: Correct ...
MARGOT: Would that be right?
ELIAS: ... in a manner of speaking. For it is not merely
your translation, as though it is some other actual construct that you
translate into your reality, but that is not an element of your reality.
But I am understanding of what you are expressing, and you are correct,
for the same physical matter, so to speak, occupies more than one physical
dimension.
It is constructed within your physical dimension in one manner, and
therefore is created to be a particular type of manifestation. The
same links of consciousness are incorporated within other dimensions, but
are constructed in different manners, and therefore appear differently
in those dimensions. You are correct, I may express, that they physically
appear similar in both dimensions.
MARGOT: Thank you so much for that! I have felt that way
for so long now.
It’s almost time for us to wind this up, but I want to ask one more
thing that came to mind while I was asking you other things. Vicki
feels, and has felt ever since I began telling her about this, that Grelko
is her and Ron, or Ron, or just her. When I told her that we felt
it was Mary, the only explanation that we could think of would be because
of the twin connection between Mary and Vicki.
Vic’s note: This was not my impression; this was a miscommunication.
My impression was that Sweala was a focus of my essence — even though the
essence name was different — and that Grelko was somebody I knew very well,
which I translated into being a focus of Ron’s essence. I have since
discovered that I am an observing essence of the focus of Sweala, which
explains my impression to me.
ELIAS: You are correct.
MARGOT: Okay, so that’s why she feels that?
ELIAS: Yes. I may express to you, Giselle, that this in
actuality is quite common with these twins, that there may be some expressions
in which one or the other may identify themselves within, and in actuality,
it may be an expression of the other.
MARGOT: I see. I do think I understand that. So then
could we say, or could you confirm, that Vicki herself, her essence, has
a focus in that other reality, or does she just feel it with Mary?
ELIAS: Both.
MARGOT: Both, okay. (Laughing)
HOWARD: Can I say that I worked on this a lot with the TFE we
did, just to understand, and I got a name, something like Moish, meaning
little one; affectionate. It was like a nickname for her. Moisha?
ELIAS: Moisha.
MARGOT: Moisha?
ELIAS: Moisha. (Correcting pronunciation)
HOWARD: M-O-I-S-H-A?
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Thank you! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)
HOWARD: As for Bobbi, she worked in the emerald temple, working
with chakras, or actually energy, shifting movement of the green energy?
ELIAS: Not past tense. (Grinning)
MARGOT: Not past tense, but now in that ...
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: ... other reality.
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Oh, thank you! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: We’re having such a good time with this, Elias!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
MARGOT: Very good! Also, as long as I’m going in this direction,
Lynda or Ruther thinks she has a focus in this reality. Can I tell
her she does?
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Okay, I will! Thank you a lot, Elias. This
has been great!
ELIAS: You are very welcome, and I shall be encouraging to you
to continue incorporating fun in your exploration and your interaction!
MARGOT: Oh, we certainly will!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
HOWARD: Before you go, I have to know ... I had a dream the other
night of an epic of a famous personality, and I just have to ask you, was
William Boyd a focus of mine?
ELIAS: Yes.
HOWARD: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.
MARGOT: And the beat goes on!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I am greatly acknowledging to you both,
and I shall offer one more aspect in parting with you, Giselle.
MARGOT: Alright.
ELIAS: Recognize that all of the information that has been offered
to you previously — in our interaction that incorporates no sound (chuckling)
— shall be incorporated again.
MARGOT: Are you saying that if that tape was played again, it
would have sound?
ELIAS: No.
MARGOT: It WILL have in the future?
ELIAS: No. I shall offer the information again.
MARGOT: Oh! Do we need to put that in the next session I
have?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
MARGOT: Okay, you’re just going to do that.
ELIAS: Yes.
MARGOT: Because there was all that great stuff in there — that
you said you haven’t talked about before — having to do with thought, and
that our thought is to translate sexuality and emotion.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and this information shall be offered,
and I have already begun the incorporation of that information recently.
MARGOT: Yes. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
I express to you both much encouragement, and I shall continue to be
interactive with you playfully, and I anticipate our next meeting and the
exploration in your new adventure!
MARGOT: Thank you!
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. To you both in tremendous
affection, as always and as my friends, au revoir.
MARGOT: Au revoir.
HOWARD: Thank you.
Elias departs at 3:26 p.m.
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