Tuesday, November 27, 2001 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Donna (Luera)

Elias arrives at 12:01 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

DONNA: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Welcome!

DONNA: Thank you very much. I am very excited to be speaking with you.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we proceed?

DONNA: I guess I’d first like to start with my particulars, my essence name and family, alignment, orientation, and stuff like that.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Luera, L-U-E-R-A (LOOR ah). And what is your impression concerning essence families?

DONNA: Sumafi.

ELIAS: And alignment?

DONNA: I vacillate, I think, between Gramada and Milumet.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I am quite acknowledging of you! You are correct, belonging to Sumafi, aligning with Gramada. And shall you venture into the association of orientation?

DONNA: Common?

ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckles)

DONNA: What is my color?

ELIAS: Offer your impression.

DONNA: Black? (Laughs with Elias)

ELIAS: I may express to you, I am understanding your translation. In actuality, I may express a deep violet.

DONNA: I had been looking at violet-colored clothing recently.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Objective imagery!

DONNA: I guess I’d like to start with a very general question along the lines of my intent — an easy one, I know! I feel like my general intent is to be expressing self-love and that that’s really what my whole experience is about. Could you sort of expand on that?

ELIAS: Very well. Offer to myself, first of all, what you perceive to be a more specific expression of this exploration.

DONNA: I find that when I’m loving myself more, when I’m paying attention to self more, that my life goes better. I feel better, my interactions with others are better, my body is healthier, and when I don’t, when I turn attention away from self, that things go the other way.

ELIAS: I am understanding. I may express to you, your identification of this being a general direction is correct, for this is not necessarily the identification of your individual intent within this focus but a movement that is created in association with this shift in consciousness. All individuals are incorporating this type of action within their focuses in association with this shift in consciousness, an expression of creating an awareness of and an acceptance of self, familiarizing yourselves with self as essence and translating that into your objective physical reality to generate more of an ease in all of your projections.

But in relation to each individual focus, you also incorporate a unique individual intent, which is the direction of exploration of this physical dimension that the individual uniquely creates. Are you understanding?

DONNA: I think so.

ELIAS: Therefore, in association with yourself, if you are allowing yourself to view the entirety of your manifestation and you discover the theme which directs your experiences, you shall offer yourself information concerning your individual intent.

DONNA: I feel from what you’re saying that my theme would be along the lines of... Well, one thing that’s always been a part of my life has been my love of animals, especially cats and horses, and when I was young I wanted to work with horses. But I also had a desire to write a book, and in fact I had a dream not long ago where I was shown a transcript or a manuscript of a book. Are these part of that? I feel that they are.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

Now; in viewing this type of expression, you may recognize more specifically the theme of your manifestation, which is an action of translating to yourself interaction that you create with creatures and other expressions of consciousness.

Your exploration, your individual unique intent in this focus, has been expressed in the action of translating to yourself interactions. You choose to be challenging yourself in this exploration through interactions with creatures, although you do create this action also with individuals and with other expressions of consciousness. You merely express it obviously and allow yourself a recognition of it in association with creatures. This also is translated in your desire to be creating a book, for this is another action of exploring the translations.

DONNA: In my imagery of my past history of riding and training horses, subsequently I made myself wrong, in essence, by turning my attention to other things and then denying myself that experience. What is the purpose of that? Why did I do that? What was the reason?

ELIAS: You have not created a wrong. In this, you have merely turned your attention and chosen to be directing your exploration in different expressions. This is not a movement outside of your intent nor is it wrong. It is merely a choice to be generating different avenues of this exploration.

I may express to you also that within any moment you may alter your choice again, and you may be engaging interaction and exploration of that translation in association with these creatures. It is merely a choice.

DONNA: And the book would have something to do with communication with animals or other expressions of consciousness?

ELIAS: Yes, in another avenue of your expression and your exploration of these translations and how you translate these interactions in association with self.

DONNA: Could you expand more on that? Like, translating interactions with self — when the translation is going on, I assume I’m filtering it through belief systems that I hold?

ELIAS: Yes, but all that individuals interact with within your physical dimension is being filtered through belief systems. This is not actually the point of your individual exploration. In actuality, you have chosen an interesting type of exploration within this physical dimension.

As I have stated, an intent is the general direction of exploration, for you choose to be manifesting within this physical dimension to explore a specific type of movement in exploring self. This, in actuality, is the expression of all consciousness, regardless of where the attention is focused. This physical dimension does not deviate from that action.

This is a natural action of consciousness in itself, becoming and exploring continuously the expressions of self and generating different avenues in which to accomplish that action. Within this physical dimension, you have created a vast field of diversity in which to be creating this type of exploration.

In your individual unique expression in this focus, your general direction, which is your intent, is to be exploring interactions and exploring how you translate those interactions in association with yourself, therefore offering yourself information concerning yourself.

In this, you may offer yourself information through any avenue. But in association with your orientation and your natural expressions of projecting energy outward — that you may observe your own creations objectively in an outward manner — this type of action that you have chosen in your intent is quite efficient, for it allows you to pay attention to you, but also to be paying attention to outward projections through interaction and create this translation which, in a manner of speaking, pulls the focus of attention back to you.

Therefore, what you create, in a manner of speaking, is a circle. You project energy outwardly in a natural expression of your orientation, you allow that energy to manifest in certain specific types of expressions, interactions, and you allow yourself to view those interactions and explore them in the movement of the circle, returning back to self and how these interactions are associated with what you generate inwardly.

Now; you create this type of action, as we have stated, in relation to creatures and other aspects of consciousness, for this appears to you to be an inventive manner of translating and offering yourself information concerning self, for it may be more easily objectively associated that the creatures or other expressions of consciousness are a projection of you and that you do create them. It is more difficult for individuals within physical focus to be recognizing and accepting that they are also creating their perception of other individuals.

DONNA: See, that’s where I seem to get tripped up. On some level I know that I’m creating my version of somebody else, but I have trouble when they say or do something that I don’t like. (Laughs) I have trouble coming to grips with, well, why would I do that to myself?

ELIAS: Correct. I may express to you that this is the reason that you have turned your attention and your direction from the interaction of the creatures, to allow yourself the challenge of this aspect of the exploration — recognizing that this type of translation of interaction may be much more challenging in relation to the beliefs that are expressed, those being that you do not create the other individual or their choices or their expressions and that you do not express control of what other individuals create. And as I have expressed many times, the aspect of control is in itself yet another expression of beliefs. But this type of action of allowing yourself to be projecting your energy outwardly and interacting with other individuals, and in a manner of speaking, circling that interaction round to yourself and generating the translation concerning self in association with the interaction is more difficult.

I may express to you that as you generate this type of experience in which you project energy outwardly in relation to an interaction with another individual and you experience what you perceive to be a response that is uncomfortable or that you dislike or that you do not think you want, allow yourself to draw upon your experiences with creatures. For at times you have generated the same type of action, in which you project energy outwardly and the response of the creature may not necessarily be what you want or what you think you want or what you expect, but you allow yourself more of an ease in recognizing that you have generated that and therefore you offer yourself clearer explanations concerning what you have generated to create that action. Are you understanding?

DONNA: Yes.

ELIAS: You may apply this to your interactions with other individuals, allowing yourself to draw upon information you have previously offered to yourself in your individual methods of how you translate these interactions, how you turn your attention to yourself and offer yourself information concerning what you have created — not what the creature has created but what you have created, and therefore this is reflected in the creature.

You may apply the same method that you have incorporated previously to individuals also, and this may allow you more of an ease in understanding what you are generating in relation to your interactions with other individuals.

DONNA: So when I project energy outward, my energy projection is what I see as sort of a product or a reflection of my self-love, my self-awareness, my self-acceptance, and it’s reflected in my interactions with creatures and with other people.

ELIAS: Correct.

DONNA: And when I have a less than pleasing interaction or an uncomfortable interaction, that’s basically showing me some area where I’m not loving myself or I’m not accepting myself.

ELIAS: Yes.

DONNA: So if I have a certain person in my life that I have trouble getting along with, it’s basically showing me areas of myself that I’m having trouble with. (Pause)

It seems hard for me to not blame myself, like taking what everybody else does as personal or taking responsibility for it. Sometimes I put myself in a situation where someone might demand something from me or make a request upon me which I feel is unreasonable, and I have trouble taking responsibility for that. What is that demanding of myself all about? Is that feeling I have to justify myself?

ELIAS: At times. Let me express to you, my friend, each experience is, in actuality, unique. You may be expressing many different directions to yourself and many different aspects of beliefs or associations concerning yourself with different interactions, or you may be expressing one direction and generating many different types of imagery to explore one direction and one expression within yourself.

Now; I shall not express to you a blanket statement that if you are creating an interaction with one particular individual that is consistently uncomfortable or conflicting that this is an absolute reflection of some aspect of yourself that you are uncomfortable with or engaging conflict with, for it is dependent upon the interaction that you are creating and it is dependent upon your choices in your experiences in relation to the interaction of the other individual.

But what I shall express to you is that if you continue to create interaction with a specific individual and you recognize that you incorporate a draw to this individual regardless that you incorporate conflict, you are likely not incorporating an action of opposite counterpart action, for in these types of interactions you shall not generate a motivation to continue to be interactive with the other individual.

Therefore, in exploring what you are expressing within self and reflecting outwardly through the interaction with another individual, it is dependent upon the type of interaction that you are generating, which shall offer you information concerning what you may be addressing to inwardly. Are you understanding?

DONNA: I think so. I guess I’m wondering, when I create an imagery of feeling demanded on or justifying, what I’m getting from that is that I am not accepting my own right to be who I am.

ELIAS: Correct, and not offering yourself the allowance to be expressing your choices, generating a denial within yourself of your choices and allowing other individuals to dictate to you what your choices shall be.

DONNA: And the purpose of that is...?

ELIAS: To become more familiar with you and to offer yourself physical evidence, in a manner of speaking, of your own expressions of not allowing yourself your ability to generate your own individual choices.

DONNA: Moving into an area of, say, an intimate relationship with another — for instance, I’ve had a strong desire for a soul mate. I can feel that there are people out there or someone out there that I have that sort of connection with, but I’ve sort of been maybe denying myself that relationship. Is that all part of that?

ELIAS: Yes, and this is a reflection of denying you and denying your choices.

DONNA: So as I choose to love myself more and accept myself more, then that soul mate relationship can manifest?

ELIAS: Correct, for you shall allow yourself to create it.

DONNA: How can I go about loving myself more? (Both laugh) Noticing my imagery to myself when I’m denying myself, I suppose that’s part of it.

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct. In actuality, this is quite a large aspect of the movement — allowing yourself to be noticing, recognizing that you do incorporate choice and allowing yourself permission to be expressing your choices.

Let me express to you, my friend, quite commonly, within the beliefs of individuals within your physical dimension concerning relationships of an intimate romantic expression, what is expressed in an individual’s direction is actually the reverse of what allows this type of creation. For what you generate, generally speaking, is the seeking of specific expressions and offerings, in a manner of speaking outside of yourself from another individual.

DONNA: It’s still the belief that somebody else can give me what I don’t have?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, and also an expectation of another individual that they shall offer to you what you want. In example, commonly expressed within the associations of individuals in relation to romantic intimate relationships is that the individual seeks another individual that shall love and appreciate them.

DONNA: So the love and appreciating is coming from outside of self — or the appearance of it, anyway.

ELIAS: Yes. This is what you seek, for another individual to express love and appreciation of you. In actuality, as you turn your attention to self, this is not what you genuinely want. For I may express to you that you may generate that type of expression in what you perceive to be an offering of another individual and continue to not experience a satisfaction.

For in actuality, what you genuinely want to be expressing is the freedom and allowance of yourself to express this in association with another individual, without expectation of self and without incorporating the perceived expectation of another individual. What you genuinely seek is the allowance of your own expression in freedom to be interacting with another individual and to freely express yourself without hindrance, without anticipation of expectations of the other individual, without hesitation in association with how the other individual shall perceive.

DONNA: So as I give myself more permission to be that way, which is the way I perceive myself to be when I was younger, then I will attract to me or manifest people with whom I can have those interactions again?

ELIAS: Correct, for you shall generate this energy outwardly and you shall reflect it to yourself.

Now; I may also express to you that although this is a simple principle, it may be quite challenging to be actually manifesting, for it is, in actuality, quite unfamiliar and therefore temporarily may be requiring much noticing and paying attention.

DONNA: And I’m noticing and paying attention not only to my imagery that I’m creating but also the feelings that are generated within me?

ELIAS: Yes, for these are communications.

DONNA: That leads into my next question. I have been reading about your expression of emotion as communication, and in fact many other avenues of communication, and I have been noticing more and more of that myself. In general, I’ve been asking questions when something comes up. Whether it be a feeling or a certain image or a body condition or a physical affectation, I’ll ask myself, “What is this? What does this mean? What is this message?” Are those good questions to ask? What other kinds of questions can I ask myself to offer myself more information?

ELIAS: I may express to you an acknowledgment in your allowance of yourself to be generating these questions and therefore also opening an avenue for your objective understanding in relation to what you are expressing to yourself in communication. I may express to you that you continue to be engaging this action and allowing yourself to pay attention and to be noticing, for this shall offer you much more of a familiarity with yourself and offer you information concerning HOW you create, not merely what you create.

DONNA: Offering information on how I create?

ELIAS: Correct.

DONNA: Can you give me an example of something, like an image that I created and then the information on how I created it? Or is that included in, say, my feelings and thoughts?

ELIAS: Yes, it is. For in this, you may be obviously viewing what you create, for you offer yourself objective imagery concerning what you are creating. Therefore, this aspect of the creating process, so to speak, many times is quite obvious. What may be less obvious is how you have created that. In paying attention to the communications that you offer to yourself, you offer yourself information and explanation concerning how you have created what you have created.

DONNA: That information would come through the same avenues?

ELIAS: Yes.

DONNA: So when I become aware of how I’m creating something, then that gives me the feeling that I can in fact control it or change it to something that I might prefer.

ELIAS: Yes. It offers you choice.

This is not control; this is freedom. It offers you choice, that as you recognize what and how you are creating any expression and you express to yourself that you prefer a different expression or manifestation, once recognizing what you have already generated and how you have generated that, you offer yourself choice to be generating another expression.

DONNA: For instance, I’ve created an expression of growing some white hair into my brown hair, and I prefer my brown hair. I’ve noticed that the white hair has come in response to me feeling unlovable by another or less than another. So the information that I’m offering to myself is to be loving myself more and accepting myself more...

ELIAS: Correct.

DONNA: ...and as I do that, then the white hair can change back into brown hair.

ELIAS: It may, if you are expressing that type of energy. Or it may not, and you may move your perception into a different direction. You may choose not to alter the expression of the color of your hair, and you may create a perception that you are appreciating of this type of action that you have created and view it to be unique and attractive.

It is an expression of choice. This is what is significant — not what you actually generate objectively in actual manifestations, but your choice and knowing that you incorporate choice, knowing objectively that you, in actuality, do hold the ability to create whatever you want and that it is merely a choice.

DONNA: So when I created the white hair, am I wrong in thinking that it had to do with not loving self?

ELIAS: No, you are not incorrect. You are correct in your assessment of what you have created and what has influenced that.

What I am expressing to you is that what holds significance is that you are expressing a trust and acceptance and recognition of self and of your abilities. In that, you may or may not choose to alter the actual physical expression, but it matters not.

What shall hold significance is how you turn your perception to be incorporating an acceptance of self. Perhaps in that acceptance and appreciation of self, you may choose once again to alter the actual color imagery of your hair, or you may choose to be perceiving this creation in a different manner and appreciating it in how you have expressed it.

DONNA: Well, I’ve certainly been moving in the direction of appreciating it, and it has crossed my mind to not change it. I guess what I’m hearing from you is that as I appreciate it and I come to recognize that I have choice and I have the ability to change this, then from that point, from that stance, I can make a decision as to changing the color of my hair or keeping it the same.

ELIAS: Correct, for this action matters not. What is significant is that you are allowing yourself the appreciation and acceptance and trust of yourself. This is the point, knowing that you do incorporate choice, rather than generating an action and a manifestation, associating that you have become a victim to it and that you do not incorporate choice.

DONNA: This is sort of like being a victim to my hair or being a victim to somebody else’s comments. It’s all the same thing, isn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes. (Smiles and nods)

DONNA: There’s a couple of minutes left. If there’s anything else that you’d like to offer to me, I’d appreciate it.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) What I shall offer to you is encouragement and also acknowledgment, for you are in actuality allowing yourself to be consistently noticing and paying attention, and you are allowing yourself to move into much more of a familiarity with you. This is precisely the point, and this is the movement of this shift in consciousness. For as you continue to be generating this type of action, you shall also reinforce your expression of trust and validation of yourself, which shall also open an avenue within yourself to offer yourself genuine permission to create precisely what you want. In that movement, you shall also be reinforcing your trust.

I may express to you one other aspect of information. Do not discount yourself or judge yourself, my friend, that you are not creating enough. Allow yourself the recognition that in each moment that you perceive to be not generating what you want, you are also offering yourself an opportunity to provide yourself objectively with more information and more familiarity of yourself, rather than discounting yourself and judging yourself that you are not expressing enough or that you should be expressing better.

DONNA: That’s a big roadblock that I’ve come up against recently. I know that in the past I didn’t used to have that sort of self-judgment piece. I spent considerable time wondering why I was doing this, and you’ve hit the nail on the head!

ELIAS: I am aware, and I may express to you, incorporate this as an opportunity rather than a judgment.

DONNA: I shall do that, Elias.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend! I shall be anticipating our next meeting.

DONNA: Oh, me too.

ELIAS: I shall also be offering to you an expression of my energy.

DONNA: Yes, I have been feeling it very much! (Elias laughs) Thank you so much, Elias!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. To you in great affection, au revoir.

DONNA: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:02 PM.

(1) Donna’s note: My natural orientation is soft. I had already changed my orientation to common and had been exploring that for some time before I began my participation in the Forum. I later changed back to soft, which Elias confirmed in the Vienna group session, #1574.

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